Mole Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 As TSW has trouble coping on matchdays feel free to post on my unused forum when this site goes down. http://foreversaints.1talk.net/forever-saints-f1/
saint_stevo Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 sponsored by the BNP? I wanna know why TSW struggles when we have all paid for a super duper server and Eurostar tunnel bandwidth and it still crashes
benjii Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 Do I have to pay you £5 or are you seriously saying that an adequate forum can be made for free?
Ponty Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 Because we have these peculiar surges which seem to catch out our new hosts. It IS being addressed.
Deano6 Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 It's not as if they couldn't be predicted, Ponty.
trousers Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 It's not as if they couldn't be predicted, Ponty. Fair point
Mole Posted 3 February, 2009 Author Posted 3 February, 2009 Do I have to pay you £5 or are you seriously saying that an adequate forum can be made for free? Dunno really, it can cope with a modest number of hits. When TSF went down it coped ok though.
trousers Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 Because we have these peculiar surges which seem to catch out our new hosts. It IS being addressed. Out of curiosity, why did we switch? The previous host seemed fine
Ponty Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 It's not as if they couldn't be predicted, Ponty. By us maybe. Not quite so by our hosts maybe. We're onto it.
saint_stevo Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 how many full members do we have exactly?
Mole Posted 3 February, 2009 Author Posted 3 February, 2009 Simple, ban guests during matches. It's a piece of p1ss to do Ponty. Just go into the admin pages.
trousers Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 By us maybe. Not quite so by our hosts maybe. We're onto it. But I think the point being made is we could have made our hosts aware of it before switching over to them....?
Weston Super Saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 Less than there are people online currently. Which I have a sneaky suspicion will be considerably less still next year
Weston Super Saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 But I think the point being made is we could have made our hosts aware of it before switching over to them....? Or even just a simple email to them with the fixtures list
Ponty Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 That was the scenario on the old TSF wasn't it and it didn't solve the problem. TBH I'm as f***ed off that the forum's not sorted despite charging members as anyone on here and it's not just because I paid a fiver too. I was under the impression that a paid hosting service would sort all these problems out yet I regularly seem to be apologising for the site going down, which is embarrassing TBH.
Weston Super Saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 That was the scenario on the old TSF wasn't it and it didn't solve the problem. TBH I'm as f***ed off that the forum's not sorted despite charging members as anyone on here and it's not just because I paid a fiver too. I was under the impression that a paid hosting service would sort all these problems out yet I regularly seem to be apologising for the site going down, which is embarrassing TBH. As a fan of SFC, you should be used to being blamed for everything by now
trousers Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 That was the scenario on the old TSF wasn't it and it didn't solve the problem. TBH I'm as f***ed off that the forum's not sorted despite charging members as anyone on here and it's not just because I paid a fiver too. I was under the impression that a paid hosting service would sort all these problems out yet I regularly seem to be apologising for the site going down, which is embarrassing TBH. I don't wish to hark on (honest!) but TSW has been fine for 6 months and has only gone down hill after a recent switch to another host....hence the question..."what was wrong with the previous host (of TSW, not TSF)"?
Mole Posted 3 February, 2009 Author Posted 3 February, 2009 I don't wish to hark on (honest!) but TSW has been fine for 6 months and has only gone down hill after a recent switch to another host....hence the question..."what was wrong with the previous host (of TSW, not TSF)"? Maybe it didn't provide big enough profit margins.
Ponty Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 I don't wish to hark on (honest!) but TSW has been fine for 6 months and has only gone down hill after a recent switch to another host....hence the question..."what was wrong with the previous host (of TSW, not TSF)"? We swapped from US hosting to UK hosting.
Mole Posted 3 February, 2009 Author Posted 3 February, 2009 Bring back Keith. Ponty is useless. Let's not be rash.
Weston Super Saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 Bring back Keith. Ponty is useless. I'd swap the lot for Amy :shock:
saint_stevo Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 i love ponty, and will not take kindly to any abuse he gets. i blame boj and steve 'the knee breaker' grant
trousers Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 We swapped from US hosting to UK hosting. Last question (possibly).... Why?
Ponty Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 I'm not sure. A promise of a better service? I only administrate you lot, I don't handle the finances.
saint_stevo Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 Last question (possibly).... Why? Dollar and Pound exchange rates etc
trousers Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 I'm not sure. A promise of a better service? I only administrate you lot, I don't handle the finances. :)
Ponty Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 wat does? What you said. Especially with the way things are. I dunno that's the reason but it makes sense.
saint_stevo Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 What you said. Especially with the way things are. I dunno that's the reason but it makes sense. oh i was jesting, genious me
Wiltshire Saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 A very simple solution would be to up the membership fee to £10. I'm happy to back that plan right now.
Dr Who? Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 Contact my brother-in-law he hosts websites http://www.southampton-web-design.co.uk
Fan The Flames Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 Bring back Keith. Ponty is useless. I don't buy this anyone but Ponty call, I say no to change until its proved the new man can do better. Better the devil you know, out of the frying pan and into fire and all that. Just because I am questioning change doesn't make me a Ponty Luvvie.
$$$ Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 The obvious answer is that a web forum is not designed for the usage it will get during a match. The server is basically getting DDOS'ed by many people endlessly hitting refresh to read five word posts, lots of which describe the same event. I did point this out to boj when he was attempting to justify the subscription and server move. Considering the vast majority of a match thread is unlikely to be read again afterwards, it would make far more sense to get people to use a chat room instead during the match. There are various ways to embed/link it within the forum software so opening up the match thread could open up the chat room instead.
Ponty Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 I don't buy this anyone but Ponty call, I say no to change until its proved the new man can do better. Better the devil you know, out of the frying pan and into fire and all that. Just because I am questioning change doesn't make me a Ponty Luvvie. Thanks, but tbh anyone could do better.
Spudders Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 The obvious answer is that a web forum is not designed for the usage it will get during a match. The server is basically getting DDOS'ed by many people endlessly hitting refresh to read five word posts, lots of which describe the same event. I did point this out to boj when he was attempting to justify the subscription and server move. Considering the vast majority of a match thread is unlikely to be read again afterwards, it would make far more sense to get people to use a chat room instead during the match. There are various ways to embed/link it within the forum software so opening up the match thread could open up the chat room instead. But then how would people post pictures of cakes on the match threads
Mr saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 Other teams have better forums. For that reason, and that reason alone I support Man Utd now (or Chelsea/Liverpool should one of those go on to win the title). Bye bye Saints.
saint_stevo Posted 3 February, 2009 Posted 3 February, 2009 i have cancelled my subscription, i was woo'ed originally, but what is the point now? Like paying to have access to Sky TV or something, then repeatedly getting denied access through no fault of our own. Must be against some act or something.
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