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Davis Not his normal confident self 6

James - very poor but tried 3

Size - 7 MOM composed in defence and brought ball out well -lost man for 3nfDid

Perry - 7 solid

Surman - poor defending but playing LB no excuse for poor passing 5

McGlaggon - did very little 2

Wotton - Put himself about. 5

Lallana - poor 4

Gillett - ok/energetic 1st half 6.

Mcgoldrick - thought did ok lacking service some decent touches 6

Saga - worked hard lacked service 6

 

Subs:

Euell - no real effect 5

BWP - tried/lively 6

Schinderlin - no impact

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I was at work' date=' what was he saying?[/quote']

He was extraordinarily downcast when they scored their second - like the wind had been knocked out of his sails. He said 'it just sums up their season, to be honest', with almost a tear in his eye. It was not neutral. Add this to someone saying he'd been at our last game and I wonder...

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did he feck

 

4 points from 18...wow and we got a couple of thumpings along the way to just staying up

 

No we didn't. Hull thumped us 5-0, but look at what Hull have achieved in the Premiership. There were no other thumpings, all other matches beyond the Plymouth game having been close. And Pearson managed three times as many home wins as Poortvliet in less time than he had. His record is 6 draws, 3 wins, 3 losses. Under him, we also beat Bristol City who were top at the time and also beat Sheffield United which we didn't manage tonight.His record also includes draws against teams like Wolves and West Brom. His goal difference whilst here wasn't bad apart from the Hull result and we were hard to beat. Look at the appalling defence we have with our huge goal difference.

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So you have single handedly made an industry out of being a fool and insulting the very people you are attempting to have a dialogue with?

Well done potty mouth.

 

Look, I know a lot of people like to use the classic 'child' analogy for people they don't agree with to patronise the other person. Personally, I don't move to jibes like that cos it winds people up even more. You know you did it for that reason, I know you did, hell, everyone knows you did. So why don't shut down the dating side, move over and let your husband use the computer for his lonely nights of onanism.

 

Pessime et nequissime!

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Davis Not his normal confident self 6

James - very poor but tried 3

Size - 7 MOM composed in defence and brought ball out well -lost man for 3nfDid

Perry - 7 solid

Surman - poor defending but playing LB no excuse for poor passing 5

McGlaggon - did very little 2

Wotton - Put himself about. 5

Lallana - poor 4

Gillett - ok/energetic 1st half 6.

Mcgoldrick - thought did ok lacking service some decent touches 6

Saga - worked hard lacked service 6

 

Subs:

Euell - no real effect 5

BWP - tried/lively 6

Schinderlin - no impact

 

 

Surman. Left Back, we still have Skacel and he plays Surman at LB. I ask you - Club policy or Wotte-a-disaster?

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No we didn't. Hull thumped us 5-0, but look at what Hull have achieved in the Premiership. There were no other thumpings, all other matches beyond the Plymouth game having been close. And Pearson managed three times as many home wins as Poortvliet in less time than he had. His record is 6 draws, 3 wins, 3 losses. Under him, we also beat Bristol City who were top at the time and also beat Sheffield United which we didn't manage tonight.His record also includes draws against teams like Wolves and West Brom. His goal difference whilst here wasn't bad apart from the Hull result and we were hard to beat. Look at the appalling defence we have with our huge goal difference.

 

I am suprised you bothered typing all that out;)

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Thought quite a few were poor or below average, such as james and kelvin.

 

Euell seemed to liven the game up when he came on and really battled.

 

Haven't really scored or conceded late on at home all season and bang, both happen on the same night.

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After seeing that dismal display tonight, I have had enough.

This isn't the club i've supported all my life, this is Rupert Lowes club.

Having had a season ticket from the good times to the bad, this is the lowest I have ever felt as a Saints fan. For that reason I will not re-newing my season ticket. Mr Lowe you have caused this and for that reason I will never forgive you.

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Rinus Michels, renowned Dutch manager and generally credited with inventing the term "total football", is turning in his grave. As are many of the great Saints of the past!

Thanks Ru**rt, thanks Quisling. Hope you both rot in hell!

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anyone back from the game posted yet? sounded like we gave plenty of effort but same old story of not being able to break there defence down.

 

gutted tonight TBH, thought we were going on to bag the much needed 3 points :(

 

yep, lacked decent penetration -particularly FBs.

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did he feck

 

4 points from 18...wow and we got a couple of thumpings along the way to just staying up

 

did he feck.... he got 4 draws and one win from his first 5 matches. The 5-0 thumping at Hull that happened later was with the first and second choice goalies both out injured, and the third choice playing with an injury. And he ended up with 1.23 points per match, despite inheriting the Dodd/Gormless mess.

 

And please stop counting the Plymouth match. Everyone knows NP was just a spectator.

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After seeing that dismal display tonight, I have had enough.

This isn't the club i've supported all my life, this is Rupert Lowes club.

Having had a season ticket from the good times to the bad, this is the lowest I have ever felt as a Saints fan. For that reason I will not re-newing my season ticket. Mr Lowe you have caused this and for that reason I will never forgive you.

I echo these sentiments.:mad::(

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He was extraordinarily downcast when they scored their second - like the wind had been knocked out of his sails. He said 'it just sums up their season, to be honest', with almost a tear in his eye. It was not neutral. Add this to someone saying he'd been at our last game and I wonder...

 

Sounds like he might be Crouch's man. I know I'd prefer him right now.

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Davis 5 - Flappity flap flap flap

James 5 - Where the **** was he for the 1st goal, decent going forward

Surman 6 - Worked hit nustoff, LB his best position ?

Saeijs 8 - Very good footballer, shame he'll be leavng. great game

Perry 7 - Solid

Lallana 4 - Peripheral, better than saturday.

Wotton 6 - Did his job, hoofed a bit too much

Gillett 6 - Did well 1st half until sacrificed.

McLaggon 3 - did nothing really.

McGoldrick 3 - p!ss poor again, at least had a couple of shots.

Saganowski 6 - Should have scored 1st half but generally decent

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BWP 4 - The odd glimpse of a footballer but I gave up on him long ago.

Euell 7 - Has to start every game from now until end of season.

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After seeing that dismal display tonight, I have had enough.

This isn't the club i've supported all my life, this is Rupert Lowes club.

Having had a season ticket from the good times to the bad, this is the lowest I have ever felt as a Saints fan. For that reason I will not re-newing my season ticket. Mr Lowe you have caused this and for that reason I will never forgive you.

 

Not yet it isnt... but it will be after administration. Now ... are we going to get him out or what?

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Surman. Left Back, we still have Skacel and he plays Surman at LB. I ask you - Club policy or Wotte-a-disaster?

 

The same skacel that wants to play elsewhere you mean? is he back in southampton now or is he still pimping himself around Europe trying to secure a loan deal?

 

Wotte has told him the door is open for him and if he can concentrate on the saints then he will be back in the squad. Not sure how he can pick a guy who has asked to be not available?

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Wotte said he doesn't know what he has to do to win at home. After about 35 mins we were playing 10 men. We spent 10 mins playing the same narrow formation. I spoke to Brian O'Neill at half time, we said the same thing, BWP on wide, Lallana off.

 

So what did Wotte do, Gillett off, Lallana in CM, Lallana was just useless and should have been taken off but no. Wotte then brings on Euell, for Lallana, no for McLaggon, who had been very average, Euell CM Lallana now narrow right roaming as usual. Wotte signals Lallana to go wide which he does now and again. The next change Schneiderlin for Wotton.

 

The team still has no proper width, still knocking in crosses from deep, Skacel not even in the squad, Lallana is not even good enough for the bench at the moment, Euell came on late.

 

Davis, Perry, Saeijs, Skacel, Euell, Wotton, BWP, Saganowski, Surman have to play plus McGoldrick, James. It is the only way we will maybe get out of the mire.

 

Wotte is very slow to react and his personnel selections are poor.

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yep, lacked decent penetration -particularly FBs.

 

comentary sounded like James got forward a fair bit and put in plenty of crosses but didnt hear much from Surman until late on in the match. Not sure what else we could have done at LB though and RB we have been short all season. There are still plenty of midfielders that should be providing the strikers with some cutting passes though.

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Out of interest are you counting Plymouth as his first game?

 

Yes he is. It's the usual trick from those trying to downplay Pearson's achievements.

 

Pearson with Saints: 1.23 points per game.

Pearson with Leicester: 2.31 points per game.

Lowe's revolutionary coaching set-up: 0.9 points per game.

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Yes he is. It's the usual trick from those trying to downplay Pearson's achievements.

 

Pearson with Saints: 1.23 points per game.

Pearson with Leicester: 2.31 points per game.

Lowe's revolutionary coaching set-up: 0.9 points per game.

he was appointed 2 days before the game...why should it not count..?

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And after 2 ok games we are back to where we were. Very poor display tonight by the lads. After they went down to 10 men you would of thought we would of been more up for it and took it to them but we didn't. Was nothing really to talk about until the last 10mins. Sheff Utd did a traditional CCC job over us. Bunged the balls in the air and tried to do it that way. The ironic thing is roll back a year and some posters were saying that way of playing will get you nowhere. Looking at the league i would say 5 of the top 6 teams play that way.

Today for me was a must win game. The Watford game will seal our fate i think. Watford have then a game in hand and Doncaster have 2 in hand and that is the team we are trying to catch.

Very gutted as the players showed no fight but more importantly a severe lack of quality.

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comentary sounded like James got forward a fair bit and put in plenty of crosses but didnt hear much from Surman until late on in the match. Not sure what else we could have done at LB though and RB we have been short all season. There are still plenty of midfielders that should be providing the strikers with some cutting passes though.

 

James did get forward, and his best part of his game has been his crossing but it was off tonight, hitting from too deep and not overlapping as he has done

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he was appointed 2 days before the game...why should it not count..?

Wotte's been here, and an active part of the management setup, all season. There is no comparison to make - the dutch disaster continues to drag Southampton FC ever deeper into the mire.

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And please stop counting the Plymouth match. Everyone knows NP was just a spectator.

 

TBF I saw him standing on the touchline shouting at the players and waving his arms around, they listened to him yet I was stood/sat 20 yards behind him and they didnt listen to me at all. I would say he was more than a spectator. ;)

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And after 2 ok games we are back to where we were. Very poor display tonight by the lads. After they went down to 10 men you would of thought we would of been more up for it and took it to them but we didn't. Was nothing really to talk about until the last 10mins. Sheff Utd did a traditional CCC job over us. Bunged the balls in the air and tried to do it that way. The ironic thing is roll back a year and some posters were saying that way of playing will get you nowhere. Looking at the league i would say 5 of the top 6 teams play that way.

Today for me was a must win game. The Watford game will seal our fate i think. Watford have then a game in hand and Doncaster have 2 in hand and that is the team we are trying to catch.

Very gutted as the players showed no fight but more importantly a severe lack of quality.

 

A worrying note from a respected poster.

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he was appointed 2 days before the game...why should it not count..?

 

Hate to do this to you mate but you sort are asking for it

 

Pearson was appointed the manager of Saints at 10.30pm on 18th feb 2008. The Plymouth game was on the 19th. To rub it in a little more he had not even met the players yet nor had any training sessions so did not select the team for that game. Dodd and Gorman did.

 

So attributing him with a result to a game to a team he had not even been with for 24hrs nor had any interaction with the players is a tad harsh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Pearson#Southampton

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where to start when you want to rant?!:mad:

 

A proper sickener, right down there with Boro, Everton and Villa.

And anyone who thinks that we are suddenly going to string five home wins together should be in Broadmoor, I can see no way on earth that this team/coach/board combination is going to turn it round now.

Prove me wrong please, but why on earth should our form suddenly improve??

Please prove me wrong!!!

 

But like the last time we went down, we all saw it coming in the September and it was no effing surprise in May, that is the worst thing, it is like being on an oil tanker that is going to hit another one currently forty miles away and Captain Lowe keeps telling you it will be fine, look again!!

At least this time put us out of our misery, pop a cartridge in the duck gun and call in the administrators to make a clean start in Lg one.

But oh no, just when we think we hit rock bottom, some ruddy faced arse is going to preside over a predictable relegation, and then decide in the summer that we could start next year on minus ten.

Go on surprise me with one more mismanagement joke at our expense.

 

I have felt bad about staying away and denying Lowe my cash and the club funding this year, but he has chucked it all away, TWICE, and continues to do so every day, I want to support the club but I refuse to supply any more 'director's expenses'.

We have turned out in numbers and they have failed, we have stayed away and they have failed. What now?

I see no chance of a great escape, but am open enough to hope that someone proves me wrong, BUT it will have to be at Watford, and then for about four matches on the trot if it is to happen. Crunch time is here, it has to happen now.

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Davis Not his normal confident self 6

James - very poor but tried 3

Size - 7 MOM composed in defence and brought ball out well -lost man for 3nfDid

Perry - 7 solid

Surman - poor defending but playing LB no excuse for poor passing 5

McGlaggon - did very little 2

Wotton - Put himself about. 5

Lallana - poor 4

Gillett - ok/energetic 1st half 6.

Mcgoldrick - thought did ok lacking service some decent touches 6

Saga - worked hard lacked service 6

 

Subs:

Euell - no real effect 5

BWP - tried/lively 6

Schinderlin - no impact

 

and first time ever I walked away thinking shall I keep coming to this?

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Just in from the game...

And that was a sh*t performance, from a sh*t bunch of players, managed by a hopeless, clueless sh*t manager, installed by an egotistical, low brow, public schoolboy chairman, supported by spinless shareholders.

 

**** atmosphere as well.

I'm boycotting the rest of the season.

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Hate to do this to you mate but you sort are asking for it

 

Pearson was appointed the manager of Saints at 10.30pm on 18th feb 2008. The Plymouth game was on the 19th. To rub it in a little more he had not even met the players yet nor had any training sessions so did not select the team for that game. Dodd and Gorman did.

 

So attributing him with a result to a game to a team he had not even been with for 24hrs nor had any interaction with the players is a tad harsh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Pearson#Southampton

Wasting your time there as he ignores facts regarding football matters.

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