Spudsaint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Regardless of the standard of performance we are now down. Let's take the points deduction and have the administrators take the club out of Lowe & Wilde's hands a.s.a.p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chi saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Listening on the radio, it sounded as though we were pretty active, although Dave M states otherwise so don't know what to think, except that this league is slipping away from us. Oh and Norwich won 4 - 1 I believe!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 From feeling slightly optimistic after the transfer window to this is sickening but typical. I don't see anyway back from this, do we keep limping on hoping we stay or do we take the ten point penalty now before it's too late? Unless Saga can score 2-3 goals in every game we have left i can't see a way back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjphilsaint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Radio Sheff thought we deserved the point when we equalised. It is bleak, but we've been further adrift in past relegation battles. Plus we've got two away games coming up!!! Keep the faith, it's all we've got! but in those days we had a) MLT b) The Dell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstripe Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 It's one step forward 2 steps back to relegation at the moment. We are practically playing with new team at the moment will they have time to jell before it's too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Do people think Charlton are having the same problem with their chairman? Literally just wondering. I think they mostly blamed Pardew didn't they? I suppose there is therefore some blame attached to the chairman for appointing him / not getting rid sooner. I suspect this blame is tempered by the fact that Pardew was a fairly well respected manager so at least there was something intelligible behind his appointment in the first place. I imagine if Charlton had appointed a nobody under a cloud of hyperbolic PR purely because he was cheap then more of the blame would attach to the chairman rather than the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Come on folks - listening to the second half on BBC Sheffield who, understandably would probably be pretty biased the boys played really well and heaped the pressure on. Again, finishing was the issue but it sounded like we had the majority of the play. We were playing 5th in the league and (taking the 10 men out of the equation) sounds like we gave a good performance - just the result that was the problem. I think Wotte has a lot to build on from this game to build confidence in the team. Fingers crossed he does ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 :smt022 Feeling tired and emotional. Maybe I'll feel different after we beat Watford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Dont forget the Amateur fans. Sorry and The AMATEUR Lowey Luvvies or Lowey Ra Ra Cheerleaders..No offence mate..but I might have to confiscate your bloody Pom Poms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I've really had enough of this utter, utter sh1te. Askham, Richards, Withers, Windsor-Clive, Wilde... Hope you can fVcking sleep at night - this could have been avoided. Hope you all lose your investments you greedy b@stards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 The worst part of what now seems almost inevitable is that I will lose my two 'home' games next season - Preston and Blackpool; Stockport & Crewe are the nearest, but they are further away than the Dingles at Turf Moor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Post-it note Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 ffs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channonwindmill Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I think Solent and our fans are (and not surprisingly) our biggest critics, and this will sometimes cloud judgement. Either way, I'm pretty gutted right now. Was Holloway not at the game Saturday? I'd take him as manager to be fair. God almighty how far have we come that we see Holloway as an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 ffs! Any reason for the pink? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 But we've been saying that after pretty much every game this season. I thought before tonight that given time we'd get out of it, but today was like Everton or Villa or WBA away last time we went down. I actually feel a lot less stressed about things now I've resigned myself to it. It's the hope that kills you. I've never really been anti or pro lowe, mainly as I don't particularly like him but couldn't see a viable alternative (especially after being taken in by the hope of Wilde a couple of years ago) and also, I get bored by the boardroom politics (I'm a football fan not a businessman fan), however he is so divisive and has caused so many people to desert us in our hour of need that it's time for a change, even if it is to Crouch and there is no more money. We need something to galvanise the club and the fans and, short of Paul Allen sailing up Southampton Water tomorrow, Lowe stepping down might be the only option. I admit I am very anti Lowe, but I have to say that is one of the most sensible posts I have read in a long time. We may have changed the name on the managers door, but the problems are identical. The starting line up shows just how utterly inept Wotte is. I dont care if he is 3 games in. I have given so many of Lowe's appointments time to prove themselves, but after a while you cant keep backing the Lowe & Wildes stupid decisions without asking questions. I hope I am wrong & Wotte proves me wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Soze Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I've resigned myself to going down. R.I.P Southampton Football Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 just the result that was the problem. That's the story of our season :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjphilsaint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 18 Norwich 31 -7 32 19 Derby 29 -11 32 20 Barnsley 30 -12 32 21 Doncaster 29 -12 31 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22 Watford 30 -11 30 23 Southampton 31 -19 28 24 Charlton 31 22 Doncaster, Barnsley, Derby, Norwich, Forest.... all safe now this will be the bottom 3!! And all were prem teams in the last 6 years!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I've really had enough of this utter, utter sh1te. Askham, Richards, Withers, Windsor-Clive, Wilde... Hope you can fVcking sleep at night - this could have been avoided. Hope you all lose your investments you greedy b@stards. well said my friend, couldnt agree more. How do you sleep you cvnts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Poor attendance, poor result, poor team, poor everything - time to start preparing for life in league 1 methinks. What makes it irritable though is that we appear not to have any fight whatsoever. Norwich, Forest and even Charlton are fighting. We appear to have given up already. Our home form is absolutely shocking. I believe next season we will be re-opening the corners again - mind you the rest of the ground will be closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Sounds like Saints were unlucky but once again paid the price for playing too many youngsters. Sheff Utd i think started with 9 experienced outfield players and one youngster. Saints had half as many. Sheff Utd have an experienced manager who knows this league and leagues below and recently took a chance on a goal scoring Chesterfield players Ward who scored the winner. That is the reason they are 4th in the league despite losing Beattie recently. Holloway on Sky could not understand why Euell did not start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Regardless of the standard of performance we are now down. Let's take the points deduction and have the administrators take the club out of Lowe & Wilde's hands a.s.a.p. I have every sympathy with that sentiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 2 points out of nine for Wotte is simply not acceptable. For all that we have fought back from behind showing spirit and fight in his first three games including until the last minute tonight, it all means nothing at all. What counts is results and points on the board. If we continued this way for the rest of the season we will be nowhere near having any chance of survival. I boycotted my very first game that I could easily have attended tonight. I could have got there without problems, I could easily have afforded to pay for me and my son, but for the very first time since I've been a regular fan, I decided that I really couldn't be bothered if Lowe can't be bothered either. I listened to the radio commentary instead and in retrospect, I'm glad that I did. I have a quiet sense of satisfaction that I deprived Lowe of our £48 and didn't come away from the stadium believing that I had wasted it. I sincerely hope that if we lose against Watford on Saturday, there will be enough of a groundswell of dissent to stage the mass boycott of the next home match that will finally rid us of Lowe and the Quisling. With luck, the new board's first action will be to dispense of the services of Wotte and the other Dutch guy and replace them with somebody who knows what they are doing. If anybody has the gall to say that Wotte deserves more time, I for one will respond that Lowe didn't give Pearson enough time. As we slump ever deeper into the mire, I note with some satisfaction that Pearson's Leicester won convincingly 4-1 against Walsall. I wonder how we'll fare against Walsall next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rational Rich Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Do people think Charlton are having the same problem with their chairman? Literally just wondering. They're not, but then he doesn't have the history and ha generally been seen as being a positive influence. It is not the now which Lowe is getting it for (and relegation can and does happen to the best of them, as Charlton and many before them have proved), it's the culmination of many years of bad feelings harboured by people. By no means do I blame Lowe entirely for where we are, he has had a significant part in it but so have many, many others, however, I can't see how this can be resolved or how we can turn the atmosphere of the club around so that everyone is pulling in the same direction without him going. If we are to stay up we need to pull together, if we go down we'll need to pull together and if we go bust (no point talking about administration as if it's different, it is to all intents and purposes going bust) we'll need to pull together more than ever before. And at the moment we are divided more than ever before. And I can't see how that can change without some sort of metaphorical blood letting. Being stuck up in Manchester I feel more helpless, hopeless and frustrated than most of the rest of you probably do. We need some positive ideas of how we can change things. You have protested, you have boycotted, we have supported a fans rebellion (Wilde and Crouch) and all have failed and left us worse off than in living memory. Dark dark dark days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjphilsaint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 lose to watford and we are then 5 points adrift of THIRD from bottom and they still would have a game in hand on us and of course goals scored by watford against us are literally double value!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Holloway on Sky could not understand why Euell did not start. Yeah that puzzled me too. Mind you, Holloway is an opportunistic w*nker that would sell his granny and swear black was white if it got him a job... ...but even a stopped clock is right twice a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSquirrel Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Relegation now close to certain and entirely deserved. I am leading a prediction league I am in for Saints results, so I must be good at this predicting lark :-) I just checked the rest of the games this season and I can only see us getting another 6 points !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 So, I take it from Wes that Lowe didnt turn up again. What about the other tossers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 2 points out of nine for Wotte is simply not acceptable. For all that we have fought back from behind showing spirit and fight in his first three games including until the last minute tonight, it all means nothing at all. What counts is results and points on the board. If we continued this way for the rest of the season we will be nowhere near having any chance of survival. I boycotted my very first game that I could easily have attended tonight. I could have got there without problems, I could easily have afforded to pay for me and my son, but for the very first time since I've been a regular fan, I decided that I really couldn't be bothered if Lowe can't be bothered either. I listened to the radio commentary instead and in retrospect, I'm glad that I did. I have a quiet sense of satisfaction that I deprived Lowe of our £48 and didn't come away from the stadium believing that I had wasted it. I sincerely hope that if we lose against Watford on Saturday, there will be enough of a groundswell of dissent to stage the mass boycott of the next home match that will finally rid us of Lowe and the Quisling. With luck, the new board's first action will be to dispense of the services of Wotte and the other Dutch guy and replace them with somebody who knows what they are doing. If anybody has the gall to say that Wotte deserves more time, I for one will respond that Lowe didn't give Pearson enough time. As we slump ever deeper into the mire, I note with some satisfaction that Pearson's Leicester won convincingly 4-1 against Walsall. I wonder how we'll fare against Walsall next season? it was for pearson, who you are creaming yourself over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Holloway on Sky could not understand why Euell did not start. This is a guy who once played 6 CBs in a team and once played 5 players out of position in order to put the worst CB up front. This is a guy who is getting turned down by L1 and L2 clubs. If you think things cant get any worse, try Holloway as the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 SFC have once again fulfilled their commitment and provided a team in order to complete a football fixture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 (edited) Sheff Utd i think started with 9 experienced outfield players and one youngster. Saints had half as many. . Saints started with 6 experienced players - Davis, Saejis, Perry, Wotton, Saganowski, and Surman ( who is 22 and has started over 100 senior games ). Also, McGoaldrought has been an ever present this season ( which probably explains a great deal ). Edited 3 February, 2009 by badgerx16 Missed the 'r' out the @rses's name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Johnno Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I am beyond gutted now. We drag ourselves back into the match and still can't keep a clean sheet ...at home. This is Southampton FC. a club that got into top flight English football and stayed there for 27 years, and now it has all been wasted inside 3 years. Where has all the money gone????? We need and deserve answers. This Southampton recession has got to bottom out somewhere.....and quick. ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron fan Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 On the long and winding road straight to league 1 and beyond Indeed - out of the league by summer 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Cheerio the CCC. Hello League 1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 So, I take it from Wes that Lowe didnt turn up again. What about the other tossers ? Yeah the players were there - but it didn't make a lot of difference though...!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rational Rich Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Sounds like Saints were unlucky but once again paid the price for playing too many youngsters. Sheff Utd i think started with 9 experienced outfield players and one youngster. Saints had half as many. Sheff Utd have an experienced manager who knows this league and leagues below and recently took a chance on a goal scoring Chesterfield players Ward who scored the winner. That is the reason they are 4th in the league despite losing Beattie recently. Holloway on Sky could not understand why Euell did not start. Andy, for the first time in my life I felt myself warming to Holloway tonight, it seems so obvious so why can't Wotte or anyone else at SMS see it? I would have thought that with the transfer window shut there is no point whatsoever not playing the high earners and Euell would be back in. Nice trip to Galpharm and Edgely Park next season. On the bright side there is a bar run by a saints fan in hudders (or at least there used to be). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Poor attendance, poor result, poor team, poor everything - time to start preparing for life in league 1 methinks. What makes it irritable though is that we appear not to have any fight whatsoever. Norwich, Forest and even Charlton are fighting. We appear to have given up already. Our home form is absolutely shocking. I believe next season we will be re-opening the corners again - mind you the rest of the ground will be closed. Well that for one is bull****. We may not be good enough but listening to tonights match, watching on Saturday and coming back from 2-0 down at Norwich you cannot say they're not fighting. This is one of the issues with SFC and it's fans, just making stuff up that is blatantly untrue. I give up with the Saints fans I really do. We're pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 2 points out of nine for Wotte is simply not acceptable. Why was it acceptable for Pearson then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 This is one of the issues with SFC and it's fans, just making stuff up that is blatantly untrue. I give up with the Saints fans I really do. We're pathetic. yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Y'know - I'm beyond upset now. I'm absolutely numb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 We need a massive turn out for the Preston demo and anything else that will be planned. People keep saying don't boycott because it will hurt the club. I DON'T AGREE. WATCHING THIS TEAM LOSE EVERY HOME GAME WILL DO FAR MORE DAMAGE. FANS WILL WALK AWAY AND BE GONE FOREVER. IF EVER THERE WAS A TIME TO BOYCOTT IT IS NOW. WE HAVE TO ACT BEFORE THE CLUB HAS GONE FOREVER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 it was for pearson, who you are creaming yourself over TDD,unless you are playing devil's advocate I can only assume you have lost the plot! Pearson came in cold having had no experience of the players for the first two thirds of the season. Wotte has been here since LAST AUGUST!! He KNOWS the players, has worked with them, yet still serves up the same end result. You cannot compare the two men. Furthermore, Pearson came from without and ultimately galvanised the club, its players and supporters; do you honestly think Mark Wotte can do the same? Lastly, the records show that Pearson's SFC stayed up at the end of the season. Do you think we will be able to say the same of Wotte? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Why was it acceptable for Pearson then? Because NP inherited a sh1te team from Gormless & Dudd, whereas Wotte has been a full part of the setup from the start of the season, and in all probability had been pulling JP's strings for most of the time he was nominally in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Why was it acceptable for Pearson then? Probably because he inherited a situation without any prior involvement in it. Wotte has been an integral part of this calamity & I am not the biggest Pearson fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 (edited) Well that for one is bull****. We may not be good enough but listening to tonights match, watching on Saturday and coming back from 2-0 down at Norwich you cannot say they're not fighting. This is one of the issues with SFC and it's fans, just making stuff up that is blatantly untrue. I give up with the Saints fans I really do. We're pathetic. I guess you are new to the internet and football fan websites then? Isn't it past your bed-time Edited 3 February, 2009 by Plumstead_Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Fairly well shot-down in flames, TDD, I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Heartbroken :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 This is a guy who once played 6 CBs in a team and once played 5 players out of position in order to put the worst CB up front. This is a guy who is getting turned down by L1 and L2 clubs. If you think things cant get any worse, try Holloway as the manager. I was not advocating him for manager. Just quoting what he said on Sky Sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Pd W D L GF GA Pts Gdif 16 1 7 8 13 22 10 -9 That above is our home record this season. That alone says good bye Championship hello Carlisle United, Leyton Orient, Walsall et al. If anyone think we will 'do a Leicester City' and 'walk this league' think again. I'm afeared that I will never see Southampton FC play in the top flight again or maybe even the next level. I'm 47 in July I should be happy that I did go to the winning FA Cup final and I did see a Southampton side that were exciting, entertaining and damn near invincible at home. I am sorry for any young lads who have only just started supporting the club in recent years as I did back in 1969-70. You have got some really crappy years to come. That's it for me. I won't even think about football anymore after tonight. I'm finished with it this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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