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and for completeness, lets hope he brings his continuum transfuctioner with him!!

 

I really want to win a years supply of free pudding too. :(

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Completely destroys the myth that we are going into administration.

 

How so?

 

I'm sure even Bournemouth, Rotherham or Luton could have signed a Stevanage reject on loan. Clubs that go/are going into administration still field teams.

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Completely destroys the myth that we are going into administration.

 

lets hope this current squad can keep us up now.

 

Hyperbole abounds....it's hardly a myth; it is still a very real possibility. The other question which you ignore is that if our financial predicament is, like Mark Twain's demise, 'greatly exaggerated', why the hell did Lowe employ Poortvliet et al in the first place rather than keep the 'expensive' Pearson? Cake and eat it, and all that....

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How so?

 

I'm sure even Bournemouth, Rotherham or Luton could have signed a Stevanage reject on loan. Clubs that go/are going into administration still field teams.

I think it's more the fact we haven't unloaded a shedload of players at nominal fees.

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How so?

 

I'm sure even Bournemouth, Rotherham or Luton could have signed a Stevanage reject on loan. Clubs that go/are going into administration still field teams.

 

We've brought in 15 new players this season, we have sold no one this window - not exactly a club on the brink of admin.

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I think it's more the fact we haven't unloaded a shedload of players at nominal fees.

 

If no-one wanted to pay more than peanuts that's hardly surprising. Most of our squad are League 2 standard with a few of League 1 standard and few of CCC standard. If we could only attract nonimal offers it'd make no sense to sell.

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We've brought in 15 new players this season, we have sold no one this window - not exactly a club on the brink of admin.

 

There's a fine line between maintaining a company's "going concern" status and going into admin.

 

Or, as Gordon Brown keeps telling us..."doing nothing is not an option". Going through the motions (e.g. signing players) keeps the wolves at bay longer than would be the case if the club had done nothing in the transfer market this season. (IMHO)

 

"The deck of a ship before it sinks is a busy place."

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unbelievable, we sign a player that noone has ever seen play and you judge him and slag the club off in the process. FFS our fans once again sit awaiting a snipet of information / news to pounce like hounds.

 

pathetic.

Agreed sign a player, Google him and then slag him down. Great supporters we have.......

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Agreed sign a player, Google him and then slag him down. Great supporters we have.......

 

You've got admit though Manji it doesn't exactly fit with Wottes comments about bringing in better players. The last time i looked we weren't in the same division as Stevenage Borough and he wasn't even good enough for them!

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Agreed sign a player, Google him and then slag him down. Great supporters we have.......

 

Wouldnt it be great though not to have to Google...perhaps if we hadnt wasted money on Gasmi, Pekhart, Forecast, Robertson and Pulis we just may of been able to!

Great supporters we have always settle for bullsh1t and spin and the drippings of old rosey cheeks nose.

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There's a fine line between maintaining a company's "going concern" status and going into admin.

 

Or, as Gordon Brown keeps telling us..."doing nothing is not an option". Going through the motions (e.g. signing players) keeps the wolves at bay longer than would be the case if the club had done nothing in the transfer market this season. (IMHO)

 

"The deck of a ship before it sinks is a busy place."

 

I fail to see how paying the wages of another centre back (who will probably just sit on the bench) is going to keep the wolves at bay any longer if we were on the verge of admin.

 

Maybe we just have a footie mad bank manager who wasn't happy with just Killer, Thomas, Perry, Lancashire, Saeijs and Wotton as cover for centre back. He wanted to splash a few more grand a week on some Hungarian, despite being about to issue a winding up order.

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I shall reserve judgment until I've seen him. If he were any good we would have heard of him, but if he were any good, he wouldn't be signing for us

 

How is that reserving judgement, ur basically saying that because we havnt heard of him he is ****e!

 

Had many people heard of Sajas (sp) before we signed him a few weeks ago - looks like a good atm!!

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I fail to see how paying the wages of another centre back (who will probably just sit on the bench) is going to keep the wolves at bay any longer if we were on the verge of admin.

 

Maybe we just have a footie mad bank manager who wasn't happy with just Killer, Thomas, Perry, Lancashire, Saeijs and Wotton as cover for centre back. He wanted to splash a few more grand a week on some Hungarian, despite being about to issue a winding up order.

 

Killer and Thomas out for the season, Wotton can't play at CB (we saw that earlier in the season) leaving Lancashire as our only real cover for a limited Chris Perry. Lancashire has failed to shine so a CB was essential IMO. Mind you so was a CM and a right back.

 

I have no idea how good this guy is but if he is as good as Seijs (has shown so far) then he will be a very good signing.

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Agreed sign a player, Google him and then slag him down. Great supporters we have.......

 

I haven't seen anyone 'slag' him.

 

Point me to a quote where anyone says 'he's sh!t'.

 

However, some (myself included) have pointed out that his sole experience lays in Hungary; in being signed by, and failing to get a place in, a league one team; and a month's loan at a conference team, where he made 2 appearances. These are FACTS, not slagging.

 

As is the FACT that Wotte stated; "I don't want anyone who isn't better than the players we have," and "If I bring in a player from abroad it has to be someone who has proven his quality and had played at a certain level." It's just a pity he didn't explain to us that the 'certain level' he was referring to was the friggin conference.

 

Another FACT is that most who pointed these FACTS out also said they hope he does well for us (I certainly did).

 

To be honest I am surprised we didn't sign his compatriot Zsolt Löw. ;)

 

So go on Manji, tell us what YOU think of this wonerous signing and why he will be great in the CCC.

 

Oh, and here's the link to Wotte's quotes:

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/?page_id=11296

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I haven't seen anyone 'slag' him.

 

Point me to a quote where anyone says 'he's sh!t'.

 

However, some (myself included) have pointed out that his sole experience lays in Hungary; in being signed by, and failing to get a place in, a league one team; and a month's loan at a conference team, where he made 2 appearances. These are FACTS, not slagging.

 

As is the FACT that Wotte stated; "I don't want anyone who isn't better than the players we have," and "If I bring in a player from abroad it has to be someone who has proven his quality and had played at a certain level." It's just a pity he didn't explain to us that the 'certain level' he was referring to was the friggin conference.

 

Another FACT is that most who pointed these FACTS out also said they hope he does well for us (I certainly did).

 

To be honest I am surprised we didn't sign his compatriot Zsolt Löw. ;)

 

So go on Manji, tell us what YOU think of this wonerous signing and why he will be great in the CCC.

 

Oh, and here's the link to Wotte's quotes:

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/?page_id=11296

 

That is a very good point.

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Killer and Thomas out for the season, Wotton can't play at CB (we saw that earlier in the season) leaving Lancashire as our only real cover for a limited Chris Perry. Lancashire has failed to shine so a CB was essential IMO. Mind you so was a CM and a right back.

 

I have no idea how good this guy is but if he is as good as Seijs (has shown so far) then he will be a very good signing.

 

I agree we could do with the cover, but if we were on the verge of admin we would have took the gamble.

 

There is no point having extra cover at centre back if you are already relegated by having 10 points deducted.

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Fans of his old club, Southend, seem to rate him. Here are some of their comments on his move to Saints:

 

A small investment on Soton to go down me thinks.

 

Just seen that. Utter madness.

 

hahahaha

 

wow

lol

i dunno what to say to be honest

what are they doing

 

A bolt from the blue, should I say.

I would also call it madness that they deem a player who they've watched from a distance good enough for a championship fight/league one push whilst we had him under our noses for a long time and we didn't deem him good enough

Madness on Saints part, rather than ours I would say.

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I laughed. Sound about right if he turns about to me amazing.

 

laughing my arse off!

 

or will he be another hooper/kightly

i doubt it

 

lol that is unbelievable

 

Lol !!
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I fail to see how paying the wages of another centre back (who will probably just sit on the bench) is going to keep the wolves at bay any longer if we were on the verge of admin.

 

Maybe we just have a footie mad bank manager who wasn't happy with just Killer, Thomas, Perry, Lancashire, Saeijs and Wotton as cover for centre back. He wanted to splash a few more grand a week on some Hungarian, despite being about to issue a winding up order.

 

Erm....as per the bit of your post I quoted, I was latching onto your observation that signing 15 players this season isn't a sign of a club going into admin, and suggested this isn't necessarily the case.

 

I'd have quoted something about the Hungarian defender if I was latching solely onto the Hungarian defender bit.

 

cheers

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Agreed sign a player, Google him and then slag him down. Great supporters we have.......

 

The bed wetters are having a field day:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

 

Fans express their opinion on a player who couldn't break into Southend's team when they were a division below and who only featured for Stevenage in the Conference twice and the drama queens are out in force.:smt022:smt022

 

Overall, it's been a fairly positive transfer window, but let's just say this one isn't as exciting as Saga coming back!!!!

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That is a very good point.

 

being only 24 he probably fits into the age we are looking for and he has played at under 21 international level???

 

Now when we think of international level we think of Spanish, Italian, Chech, Poles, English, Russian and even Scottish. So maybe the bar has been lowered and the international level we are now looking at is the level that gets bombed out of the qualifiers?

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You only need to look at what Southend fans are saying to realise this fella is a crock of sh1te. Plus the fact he was deemed surplus to requirements at a conference side and some unknown tiny Hungarian outfit. We're a laughing stock.

 

If you're reading this Zoltan, fu(k off and never come back.

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Admittedly i'm pretty underwhelmed by this signing, but lets give him a chance. Besides those Southend quotes weren't all that negative:

 

"I saw a lot of Liptak in the reserves last season and thought it was worth keeping him on.

 

He is tall, good in the air, was willing to carry the ball out of defence and scored plenty of goals from corners.

 

Not the sort we want at Roots Hall I guess."

 

"Could not agree more i thought Zoltan would have been kept on, watched him in the reserves and looked usefull, maybe a case of another one slipping through the net. Only time will tell"

 

"Liptak, Richards, just 2 players that couldn't get a game under Tilson but is what we needed!!"

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I agree we could do with the cover, but if we were on the verge of admin we would have took the gamble.

 

There is no point having extra cover at centre back if you are already relegated by having 10 points deducted.

 

so not only have we signed a centre back but we have also confirmed that we won't be going into adminstration before the season ends. Great news.

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some of those quotes from Southend fans remind me of the quotes from Luton fans when we took Perry off their hands. I know many on here rate Perry (not me actually) so perhaps that will make you feel better. I'm a little concerned though as everything Millwall/Leicester fans said about Smith was right and more often than not the fans know when players are really good or really ****e.

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I fail to see how paying the wages of another centre back (who will probably just sit on the bench) is going to keep the wolves at bay any longer if we were on the verge of admin.

 

Maybe we just have a footie mad bank manager who wasn't happy with just Killer, Thomas, Perry, Lancashire, Saeijs and Wotton as cover for centre back. He wanted to splash a few more grand a week on some Hungarian, despite being about to issue a winding up order.

 

:lol:

 

Doubt it!

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Whilst peoples opinions will differ regarding players, let's give this guy a chance. Few of us, if any have seen him play and it's unlikely he'll walk straight into the side, plus he's only 24. Some people have written him off already!!

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I fail to see how paying the wages of another centre back (who will probably just sit on the bench) is going to keep the wolves at bay any longer if we were on the verge of admin.

 

Maybe we just have a footie mad bank manager who wasn't happy with just Killer, Thomas, Perry, Lancashire, Saeijs and Wotton as cover for centre back. He wanted to splash a few more grand a week on some Hungarian, despite being about to issue a winding up order.

 

And how do you know we are paying his wages?

 

Upjest tried to twin up with Wolves in December, they then play us behind closed doors. Is it beyond the realms of possibility they loaned Zoltan and will keep paying his wages? I think it's possible, but of course they will want something in return...

 

Watch this space. I reckon Skacel will go to Ujpest on loan and then get a free transfer which Lowe will dress up as brilliant business.

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some of those quotes from Southend fans remind me of the quotes from Luton fans when we took Perry off their hands. I know many on here rate Perry (not me actually) so perhaps that will make you feel better. I'm a little concerned though as everything Millwall/Leicester fans said about Smith was right and more often than not the fans know when players are really good or really ****e.
Well the Sunderland fans were certainly right about Kelvin Davis.
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Fishfingers is about right. Zoltan had two first team games for Stevenage on loan from Southend but after Peter Taylor secured more experienced signings and some returning from injury..Zoltan was then an unused sub in the next four games. He was on loan for Nov. and Dec of 07. Peter Taylor did not rate him or want to retain him at Stevenage and at that time they were not rated highly.

On his return to Southend, Zoltan carried on playing for Southend Reserves aghainst the likes of Northampton, Peterborough, Luton, and against Stevenage 3 months after playing for them on loan) Chelmsford and Concord in Essex Senior cup.

 

He scored 2 goals from corners in County Cup games and was generally playing with academy players and some first team returning from injury. He could not make the break through into the first team and after playing Reserve football from Jan-May returned to his homeland. Southend and Stevenage did not want him..Previously Huddersfield had him on loan Jan 2007...not signed hence going to Southend July 2007...Where he was between Jan and July?

 

He is born 10/12/84 and with his gangling appearance is probably a cross between the lad Lancashire and Baseya in build and height...Although from his Southend and Stevenage days he was very thin and not strong enough.

 

At Stevenage he was Managed/coached by Peter Taylor. At Southend Reserves he was Managed/coached by Dean Austin ex Southend , watford and Spurs right back.

 

Although he has played many times for Hungary u/21 when he was younger he was not able to break into these above mentioned sides.

 

I am told that he has either improved beyond all reason or Saints are taking a big gamble. Peter Taylor did not take him to Wycombe and Southend did not want him to return.

 

I don't think posters are putting him or the club down but in my opinion just wondering what the hell is going on. Again WHY not 1 month trial or a couple of reserve games on trial....Alternatively ask 4/5 other coaches who have seen him play and train regularly.

Before you ask I know the father of one of his English coaches and that is why my information is that he is as big a gamble as Pulis, Gasmi and the like...In fact he was described if playing centre forward would be similar to Peckhart.

 

Not interested in arguing...this is just my own observations pieced together from snippets and odd comments gleaned from various sources at Southend and Stevenage.

 

For the benefit of Fishfingers Stevenage beat a very poor Altringham team 27/11/07

Zoltan played mid-field defending and centre back..

 

Away to Altringham 30/12/07 Zoltan was an unused sub. He also played against Salisbury and a cup loss to Dorchester...other sub games not used v Rushden and Woking.

 

Will he succeed at Saints......Doubtful but as suggested we give him chance but after 2/3 reserve games we should have a forum consensus...as we are the back room team.

 

HTH

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And how do you know we are paying his wages?

 

Upjest tried to twin up with Wolves in December, they then play us behind closed doors. Is it beyond the realms of possibility they loaned Zoltan and will keep paying his wages? I think it's possible, but of course they will want something in return...

 

Watch this space. I reckon Skacel will go to Ujpest on loan and then get a free transfer which Lowe will dress up as brilliant business.

 

Ujpest are a tiny team to be fair and I guarantee they won't pay enough/have a high enough esteem for Skacel.

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and who let Kevin Davies go on a free, Oh shyte seems to be doin gvery well in what league, oh yeah The premier league. I guess its all about opinions and ill make mine once ive watched him play a few games.

 

I agree. While its no super signing! lets give him a chance and see what he is like eh?

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Fishfingers is about right. Zoltan had two first team games for Stevenage on loan from Southend but after Peter Taylor secured more experienced signings and some returning from injury..Zoltan was then an unused sub in the next four games. He was on loan for Nov. and Dec of 07. Peter Taylor did not rate him or want to retain him at Stevenage and at that time they were not rated highly.

On his return to Southend, Zoltan carried on playing for Southend Reserves aghainst the likes of Northampton, Peterborough, Luton, and against Stevenage 3 months after playing for them on loan) Chelmsford and Concord in Essex Senior cup.

 

He scored 2 goals from corners in County Cup games and was generally playing with academy players and some first team returning from injury. He could not make the break through into the first team and after playing Reserve football from Jan-May returned to his homeland. Southend and Stevenage did not want him..Previously Huddersfield had him on loan Jan 2007...not signed hence going to Southend July 2007...Where he was between Jan and July?

 

He is born 10/12/84 and with his gangling appearance is probably a cross between the lad Lancashire and Baseya in build and height...Although from his Southend and Stevenage days he was very thin and not strong enough.

 

At Stevenage he was Managed/coached by Peter Taylor. At Southend Reserves he was Managed/coached by Dean Austin ex Southend , watford and Spurs right back.

 

Although he has played many times for Hungary u/21 when he was younger he was not able to break into these above mentioned sides.

 

I am told that he has either improved beyond all reason or Saints are taking a big gamble. Peter Taylor did not take him to Wycombe and Southend did not want him to return.

 

I don't think posters are putting him or the club down but in my opinion just wondering what the hell is going on. Again WHY not 1 month trial or a couple of reserve games on trial....Alternatively ask 4/5 other coaches who have seen him play and train regularly.

Before you ask I know the father of one of his English coaches and that is why my information is that he is as big a gamble as Pulis, Gasmi and the like...In fact he was described if playing centre forward would be similar to Peckhart.

 

Not interested in arguing...this is just my own observations pieced together from snippets and odd comments gleaned from various sources at Southend and Stevenage.

 

For the benefit of Fishfingers Stevenage beat a very poor Altringham team 27/11/07

Zoltan played mid-field defending and centre back..

 

Away to Altringham 30/12/07 Zoltan was an unused sub. He also played against Salisbury and a cup loss to Dorchester...other sub games not used v Rushden and Woking.

 

Will he succeed at Saints......Doubtful but as suggested we give him chance but after 2/3 reserve games we should have a forum consensus...as we are the back room team.

 

HTH

 

Interesting comments and they all point to Zoltan being a poor football league level player, never mind CCC standard player. There is more to this signing that meets the eye and IMO it's a political transfer, as oposed to a footballing decision. There's been no official comment as yet about us twinning with Ujpest, but this signing confirms it has happened in my opinion. Just look at the fact we played them in a friendly in mid season - that doesn't happen for no reason. I'm now really convinced we'll see players going the other way and i don't believe they'll be crap like we've just brought in. Contrary to the spin that's been lapped up by many on here i see Ujpest as being a club who will aid Lowe in asset stripping our squad and that being the case this tells me we are close to administration.

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