Genuine question to marchers

[alpine_saint]

Hypothetically speaking, if Crouch had remained and Pearson was still in charge and we were running away with this league would some of the idiots on here STILL be claiming that Lowe would do a better job?

 

FACT IS, Lowe is cr*p, hates the fans, despises turning up and has now disassociated himself with football altogether. Brings in unproven substandard managers, loans out our best players to the opposition, claims that youth is the way to go, even though experienced pro's warned him against this, got into bed with the very person he believed to have been responsible for destroying the finances of this club and removing him from power. At the time when this club is in free fall, finances are pinnacle, balances need to be made, loanee's are being recalled, manager has resigned, a new one in place and a new assistant coach, where's Lowe - SKIING. You couldn't make it up could you.

 

And then people like you have the audaciuty to ask a question like this. I ask you, would any other Chairman of any other club OR business come to that, act like this in a time of crisis? You;re have a larf, seriously, think about it, don;t make yourself look anymore stupid and ask anymore stupid questions, see it for what it really is - there were better options, there still are better options but every minute Lowe remains, our chances of relegation and administration get closer.

 

LOWE OUT!

 

Post of the week. Phenomenal. Succint to the point of savage. I salute you, sir.

[ALWAYS_SFC]

Hypothetically speaking, if Crouch had remained and Pearson was still in charge and we were running away with this league would some of the idiots on here STILL be claiming that Lowe would do a better job?

 

FACT IS, Lowe is cr*p, hates the fans, despises turning up and has now disassociated himself with football altogether. Brings in unproven substandard managers, loans out our best players to the opposition, claims that youth is the way to go, even though experienced pro's warned him against this, got into bed with the very person he believed to have been responsible for destroying the finances of this club and removing him from power. At the time when this club is in free fall, finances are pinnacle, balances need to be made, loanee's are being recalled, manager has resigned, a new one in place and a new assistant coach, where's Lowe - SKIING. You couldn't make it up could you.

 

And then people like you have the audaciuty to ask a question like this. I ask you, would any other Chairman of any other club OR business come to that, act like this in a time of crisis? You;re have a larf, seriously, think about it, don;t make yourself look anymore stupid and ask anymore stupid questions, see it for what it really is - there were better options, there still are better options but every minute Lowe remains, our chances of relegation and administration get closer.

 

LOWE OUT!

 

Brilliant!!

Spot on!!!

Best post ever!!!!

[sadoldgit]

 

"The backers would have pulled the plug" - don't be a moron.

 

You think they give a toss about who is in charge? It's the bottom line that counts. If you honestly think Crouch would have continued letting the club spunk money, despite the clear factual evidence to the contrary (ie. loaning out Skacel and Rasiak), then you are quite, quite odd.

 

Yes actually I do think they give a toss about who makes the key financial decsions. Wouldn't you if it was your money? Wouldn't that make you a "moron" if you didn't?

[Delmary]

I want to see the end to this bickering. Like Lowe or not he is in the driving seat and he has plan. We are stuck with Lowe and Wilde and Wotte until the end of the season probably. I would like to see them and the club given support. If we end up by staving off relegation and administration I think they should continue until a buyer is found.

 

It saddens me but I think there are a lot of people who will be happy to see the club implode just because of their hatred of one man.

I fully understand what you're saying but whether you like it or not a significant element of the fans will not unite behind Lowe whilst he's in such a weak position. The only way forward is for the plc boardroom to be representative of all three shareholding groups. In the interest of SFC Lowe needs to step down. I would like to see the PLC boardroom made up of all three groups: Andrew Cowan (Lowe group), Patrick Trant (Crouch group), Michael Wilde, an independant director (say Bransgrove or John Drapper) and a new finance director.

[rocknrollman no2]

I want to see the end to this bickering. Like Lowe or not he is in the driving seat and he has plan. We are stuck with Lowe and Wilde and Wotte until the end of the season probably. I would like to see them and the club given support. If we end up by staving off relegation and administration I think they should continue until a buyer is found.

 

It saddens me but I think there are a lot of people who will be happy to see the club implode just because of their hatred of one man.

 

Well i know an awful lot of people who will never support Lowe and Wilde.Im my opinion these two have done more between them to totally ruin SFC and the sooner they go the better.

How can any of you pro Lowes even think of supporting Wilde,when hes the reason we have no money left?In his own words he said Lowe was not fit to run the club,yet you all seem to just roll over and let Lowe and Wilde do what they like.

I imagine that no one on here wants to see the club go to the wall,which is why enough of us feel strong enough to actually do something about it.

[Gingeletiss]

 

Because it was in the Echo it was true was it? Didn't occur to you that the story could have been planted.

 

I didn't read it in that bastion of truth, the Echo, but I have read elsewhere from reasonably reliable sources that if Crouch had stayed the backers would have pulled the plug. I am not staking my life on it but I am sure it has just as much validity as something plnated in the Echo.

 

Cast your mind back, didn't Wilde also give us the impression that he had money behind him when he took over???

 

Read my post again...I said it may not be fact....whereas you come up with 'I read it elsewhere'.....how convenient, Jackanory.

[sadoldgit]

Ginge, apparently Have have to go and sit by a log fire and drink some wine with my lovely partner, so I will leave you with this.

 

I didn't believe that Lowe would ever come back, but he has. I didn't want that to happen but it has. I would rather have someone esle here but they are not.

 

Given a choice between Lowe and Cowen running the show and Loen Crouch I would prefer Lowe and Cowen. Come the end of the season I might well reget saying it but there you have it.

 

If that makes me a Luvvie, a moron or whatever, the that's fine. But I for one just want to get behind the club and see it out of this mess. If you think a stroll through town and some heavy duty stuff on an interner chat board is going to make any difference to the situation, good luck to you mate. I just think it makes things worse.

[derry]

Never mind about position, manager, finance, in my 55 years supporting this club, Rupert Lowe is the most devisive and universally disliked person that has ever been connected with this club.

 

Until he is gone and his shares disposed of, this club cannot move on. We have a deluded chairman, a figurehead chairman both overseeing a complete mess.

 

It is this mess and the arrogant demeanour, micro-managing, overbearing control freak, stupidity that has hacked the average supporter off.

[sadoldgit]

I fully understand what you're saying but whether you like it or not a significant element of the fans will not unite behind Lowe whilst he's in such a weak position. The only way forward is for the plc boardroom to be representative of all three shareholding groups. In the interest of SFC Lowe needs to step down. I would like to see the PLC boardroom made up of all three groups: Andrew Cowan (Lowe group), Patrick Trant (Crouch group), Michael Wilde, an independant director (say Bransgrove or John Drapper) and a new finance director.

 

Lets face it Delmary, in the very unlikley event us us getting promoted an winning the Premier League, the fans (or a fair proportion of them) will never get behind Lowe.

[um pahars]

I have also heard, and I don't know how true it is, that if he had stayed the club would have been in administration by now.

 

What a noddy thread, started by you know who:rolleyes::rolleyes:

 

As for this last piece of disinformation, I await Franks' Cousin and the others who carry the sword of truth to shoot this down in flames.

 

A statement such as this is as hypothetical as claiming Pearson would have us in the top two and would have us challenging for Europe in 2 seasons.

 

After the Sheffield United match, there was a glimmer of hope, a potential for unity and a chance we could all work together to get us out of this black hole.

 

Those hopes, glimmers and chances were shattered when Lowe came

back, sacked Pearson and installed the abject failure that was Poortvliet.

 

This thread is nothing more than a vain attempt to deflect criticism awya from Lowe and to try and deflate a very positive and well supported protest. Threads like this should actually inspire those to continue this protest.

[derry]

Lets face it Delmary, in the very unlikley event us us getting promoted an winning the Premier League, the fans (or a fair proportion of them) will never get behind Lowe.

 

Absolutely correct because he would stll be capable of buggering it up with his unique approach to youth football.

[View From The Top]

Hypothetically speaking, if we were in exactly the same financial predicament and exactly the same situation football-wise and if Leon Crouch was in charge and Nigel Pearson managing the team, would you have demonstrated yesterday?

 

I'm assuming that the alzheimer's is playing you up today but it was about Lowe, the failed chairman of SFC returning and continuing to destroy SFC with his idiotic decision making.

[sadoldgit]

Absolutely correct because he would stll be capable of buggering it up with his unique approach to youth football.

 

If his "unique approach" as forced on us by financial constraints then what?

[Delmary]

Lets face it Delmary, in the very unlikley event us us getting promoted an winning the Premier League, the fans (or a fair proportion of them) will never get behind Lowe.

Agree but you might be slightly missing my point. Lowe's continued front of shop role at SFC is counterproductive. It's like dousing a fire with petrol. Same rule applies to Crouch. The simple short-term solution would be to have a board that is truly representative of all views.

[derry]

If his "unique approach" as forced on us by financial constraints then what?

 

Look at the gates of the two divisions below us, the gates of the bulk of the teams in the CCC they are far below ours in terms of numbers and the yield per seat. After paying for the mortgage we had enough to compete with most of those teams.

 

The preponderence of youth all at the same time reinforced with more youth that was clearly not good enough was our big problem. A lot of teams are better than us with a much lower budget but with competent experienced 2nd and 3rd level pros.

 

It was a mixture we needed. Gasmi, Pulis, Robertson, Pekart, Forecast, Smith etc were a waste of money.

[sadoldgit]

Agree but you might be slightly missing my point. Lowe's continued front of shop role at SFC is counterproductive. It's like dousing a fire with petrol. Same rule applies to Crouch. The simple short-term solution would be to have a board that is truly representative of all views.

 

I totally agree but can you see that happening? Do you think that Lowe Wilde and Crouch would ever work together?

[sadoldgit]

Look at the gates of the two divisions below us, the gates of the bulk of the teams in the CCC they are far below ours in terms of numbers and the yield per seat. After paying for the mortgage we had enough to compete with most of those teams.

 

The preponderence of youth all at the same time reinforced with more youth that was clearly not good enough was our big problem. A lot of teams are better than us with a much lower budget but with competent experienced 2nd and 3rd level pros.

 

It was a mixture we needed. Gasmi, Pulis, Robertson, Pekart, Forecast, Smith etc were a waste of money.

 

I agree but we only know that in hindsight. I agree we should have had a mix but what if we couldn't actually afford it?

[sadoldgit]

I'm assuming that the alzheimer's is playing you up today but it was about Lowe, the failed chairman of SFC returning and continuing to destroy SFC with his idiotic decision making.

 

I assume that you have been on the bottle, the question was not about Lowe but what if the situation was the same under someone else? Go back and read it again and answer it if you want, ignore it if you prefer.

[derry]

I agree but we only know that in hindsight. I agree we should have had a mix but what if we couldn't actually afford it?

 

Early in the close season was the time to pick up those players that were looking for clubs. We had already decided on the youth team policy and paid for more youth, Schneiderlin/Forecast/Gasmi. Sadly we were not in the market for experience however cheap.

[Delmary]

I totally agree but can you see that happening? Do you think that Lowe Wilde and Crouch would ever work together?

If they don't or we fail to find a buyer, then the club will just fade away.

[Sold To The Man @ The Bar]

Hypothetically speaking, if we were in exactly the same financial predicament and exactly the same situation football-wise and if Leon Crouch was in charge and Nigel Pearson managing the team, would you have demonstrated yesterday?

 

 

The most ridiculous and pointless “hypothetical” question on the whole site!

[sadoldgit]

If they don't or we fail to find a buyer, then the club will just fade away.

 

I don't think we will fade away. If we survive this season I think we have a reasonable chance of doing better next year. If we go down and don't find a buyer I expect we shall stay down for several years.

 

Lowe is not the biggest problem, lack of real cash is.

[Gingeletiss]

I don't think we will fade away. If we survive this season I think we have a reasonable chance of doing better next year. If we go down and don't find a buyer I expect we shall stay down for several years.

 

Lowe is not the biggest problem, lack of real cash is.

 

FFS...............thousands of posts/threads on here, say that Lowe is the biggest problem, yet you say he's not, and then claim your not a lovie. YMML

[sadoldgit]

The most ridiculous and pointless “hypothetical” question on the whole site!

 

So why reply to it then? It might be for you but not for me.

 

Some years ago I exchanged views with a long term supporter who said he would rather we get relegated than Lowe stay in charge. I am curious about the mindset of people who put their feelings of individuals before the well being of the club.

 

I am intrigued by the thought process. We are in the sh*t and I don't like this bloke so I will go on a march. We are in the sh*t but I don't hate this bloke as much as the other bloke so I won't march.

[um pahars]

Lowe is not the biggest problem, lack of real cash is.

 

The lack of real cash did not force Lowe to sack Pearson and install a complete joke of a manager!!!!

 

IMHO, the single biggest thing that can impact on a team is the manager, and Lowe got it spectacularly wrong last summer.

 

And in doing so he actually compounded our acute financial problems as crowds dwindled due to the absence of the ability to win at home.

[sadoldgit]

FFS...............thousands of posts/threads on here, say that Lowe is the biggest problem, yet you say he's not, and then claim your not a lovie. YMML

 

Okay lets try this one.

 

Lowe goes but we have no money

 

Lowe stays and we get £35m to spend

 

In which scenario do you HONESTLY think we shall survive in?

 

Lowe wasn't here last year was he? How did we do? Any better? How would we had done if Crouch had £35m to spend?

[rocknrollman no2]

I don't think we will fade away. If we survive this season I think we have a reasonable chance of doing better next year. If we go down and don't find a buyer I expect we shall stay down for several years.

 

Lowe is not the biggest problem, lack of real cash is.

 

Oh yes and who wasted most of our parachute money on SCW,Clifford and an eye dome?

Answer-Lowe.

Then who threw away what little we had left when they brought in a new load of directors,who in turn gave Burley all the money he wanted,then took big pay offs when they left?

Answer-Wilde.

[um pahars]

Some years ago I exchanged views with a long term supporter who said he would rather we get relegated than Lowe stay in charge. I am curious about the mindset of people who put their feelings of individuals before the well being of the club.

 

I don't know where this bloke was coming from and it's not something I would agree with, but it is very plausible to form this opinion if it is your belief that in suffering some short term pain, the Club could emerge from the other side much stronger.

 

I personally think relegation would mean adminsitration, which will be a disaster, but if you think that out of the other side will come a stronger Club than one that is continually divided and fcked over by Lowe's poor decisions, then I can see where he might be coming from.

 

He would argue that he is putting his feelings for the club way before his feelings for one individual.

[Sold To The Man @ The Bar]

So why reply to it then? It might be for you but not for me.

 

Some years ago I exchanged views with a long term supporter who said he would rather we get relegated than Lowe stay in charge. I am curious about the mindset of people who put their feelings of individuals before the well being of the club.

 

I am intrigued by the thought process. We are in the sh*t and I don't like this bloke so I will go on a march. We are in the sh*t but I don't hate this bloke as much as the other bloke so I won't march.

 

 

I marched yesterday, still dont know why you asked the question

[Gingeletiss]

Okay lets try this one.

 

Lowe goes but we have no money

 

Lowe stays and we get £35m to spend

 

In which scenario do you HONESTLY think we shall survive in?

 

Lowe wasn't here last year was he? How did we do? Any better? How would we had done if Crouch had £35m to spend?

 

You are very wearysome..........Lowe dosn't have £35 million...fact.

 

Last time he was here, he oversaw our relegation from the top flight .........as for Crouch, I thought he was getting on top of things, but that's my personal opinion. Lowe has come back, and f**ked us all over again.

[Delmary]

The lack of real cash did not force Lowe to sack Pearson and install a complete joke of a manager!!!!

 

IMHO, the single biggest thing that can impact on a team is the manager, and Lowe got it spectacularly wrong last summer.

 

And in doing so he actually compounded our acute financial problems as crowds dwindled due to the absence of the ability to win at home.

Totally agree.

[sadoldgit]

Oh yes and who wasted most of our parachute money on SCW,Clifford and an eye dome?

Answer-Lowe.

Then who threw away what little we had left when they brought in a new load of directors,who in turn gave Burley all the money he wanted,then took big pay offs when they left?

Answer-Wilde.

 

Blame blame blame blame blame.....as if it matters now.

 

Perhaps if Wilde and Crouch had kept Woodward on to work with the younger players, perhaps if they had kept some money back for the Christmas transfer window, perhaps if they hadn't bothered in the first place, perhaps if Hoddle had come back.....

 

Unless we get Steve Godwin's nephew in or the crystal ball that so many here seem to posess, decsions will continue to be made, some good some bad.

 

When they are bad we can all come back and slate the bloke who made them because as we know, it will make a huge difference to the situation we are in.

[sadoldgit]

You are very wearysome..........Lowe dosn't have £35 million...fact.

 

Last time he was here, he oversaw our relegation from the top flight .........as for Crouch, I thought he was getting on top of things, but that's my personal opinion. Lowe has come back, and f**ked us all over again.

 

Of coures he doesn't. I was trying to make a point that it is money (or lack of) that is playing a huge part in this.

 

If Crouch and Pearson had managed to get us well away from relegation before 20 mins before the end of the season I might agree with you. If the wage bill had not been so high ditto.

[rocknrollman no2]

Blame blame blame blame blame.....as if it matters now.

 

Perhaps if Wilde and Crouch had kept Woodward on to work with the younger players, perhaps if they had kept some money back for the Christmas transfer window, perhaps if they hadn't bothered in the first place, perhaps if Hoddle had come back.....

 

Unless we get Steve Godwin's nephew in or the crystal ball that so many here seem to posess, decsions will continue to be made, some good some bad.

 

When they are bad we can all come back and slate the bloke who made them because as we know, it will make a huge difference to the situation we are in.

I thought you were going to share a bottle of wine in front of a log fire sadoldgit?Sounds better than being on here.

Though while you are still here,i think what happened before does matter now.

All we hear from the club,is that we have no money and we are trying to loan out our better players,at a time when we need them.

Those bad decisions made by Lowe and Wilde have a direct effect on us now,yet those who support them say they are the best we can get.

Doesnt make any sense.

[derry]

Of coures he doesn't. I was trying to make a point that it is money (or lack of) that is playing a huge part in this.

 

If Crouch and Pearson had managed to get us well away from relegation before 20 mins before the end of the season I might agree with you. If the wage bill had not been so high ditto.

 

Money is only part of it, it's the dogmatic youth approach, especially early in the season, when the experienced players were here, fit and ignored.

[Fitzhugh Fella]

 

Because it was in the Echo it was true was it? Didn't occur to you that the story could have been planted.

 

I didn't read it in that bastion of truth, the Echo, but I have read elsewhere from reasonably reliable sources that if Crouch had stayed the backers would have pulled the plug. I am not staking my life on it but I am sure it has just as much validity as something plnated in the Echo.

 

Cast your mind back, didn't Wilde also give us the impression that he had money behind him when he took over???

 

Bern - you are making a fool of yourself. Crouch's business uses the same branch of Barclays as the club, in Reading. Because Crouch's business is quite significant I have it on good authority (not from Crouch) that the bank would have been more than happy with his continued stewardship. Thats not saying he was a brilliant Chairman because he wasn't but.....

 

As they say, money talks!

[Gingeletiss]

Of coures he doesn't. I was trying to make a point that it is money (or lack of) that is playing a huge part in this.

 

If Crouch and Pearson had managed to get us well away from relegation before 20 mins before the end of the season I might agree with you. If the wage bill had not been so high ditto.

 

I will give you my take on the situation. For me, it's not about money, it's not about relegation, it's not about all the managers we've had, it's not about the laughing stock we have become.

 

It's about the divisions he has created in the fan base, it's about the destruction of a great reputation as a family club, it's about fans fighting fans on the terreces.

 

He has to go............end off.

[um pahars]

When they are bad we can all come back and slate the bloke who made them because as we know, it will make a huge difference to the situation we are in.

 

Little Manhattan got Poortvliet spot on though didn't he;).

 

Even his little sister, Palestina said at the time of the appointment,

 

"You know what Uncle, I think this Revolutionary coaching set up will be the downfall of the Club. Why are we going for an untried and untested coach who has limited experience of this division? At this crucial time, why don't we go for someone more experienced as we can't afford for him to learn on the job.

 

"In fact, what would have been better Uncs, would be for us to have kept Pearson on. I think that decision will come back to haunt us. I'm also very unsure of this guys insistence of playing the youth, his insistence to only play one formation and I don't think he will be very good in the transfer market.

 

"I'm sure some will ask to give him time, but I don't think we've got time. They'll be saying things like give him a chance, but I don't think the league will let us replay opur games if he's no good, will they?

 

"I'll ask my PE teacher tomorrow if he can throw his hat in the ring cos he likes to work with youngsters and his PE dept budget is really small. Can't be any worse then this bloke that Lowe has brought in";)

 

Looks like she was right as well.

[alpine_saint]

Anyone who wants evidence that SadOldGit is a luvvie, look no further than this thread..........

[BadgerBadger]

Hypothetically speaking, if we were in exactly the same financial predicament and exactly the same situation football-wise and if Leon Crouch was in charge and Nigel Pearson managing the team, would you have demonstrated yesterday?

 

No.

[redder freak]

I think Saints fans will always hate Lowe and love Crouch, whatever the results.

[Ponty]

Erm, I don't like either of them.

[Saint Fan CaM]

Hypothetically speaking, if Crouch had remained and Pearson was still in charge and we were running away with this league would some of the idiots on here STILL be claiming that Lowe would do a better job?

 

FACT IS, Lowe is cr*p, hates the fans, despises turning up and has now disassociated himself with football altogether. Brings in unproven substandard managers, loans out our best players to the opposition, claims that youth is the way to go, even though experienced pro's warned him against this, got into bed with the very person he believed to have been responsible for destroying the finances of this club and removing him from power. At the time when this club is in free fall, finances are pinnacle, balances need to be made, loanee's are being recalled, manager has resigned, a new one in place and a new assistant coach, where's Lowe - SKIING. You couldn't make it up could you.

 

And then people like you have the audaciuty to ask a question like this. I ask you, would any other Chairman of any other club OR business come to that, act like this in a time of crisis? You;re have a larf, seriously, think about it, don;t make yourself look anymore stupid and ask anymore stupid questions, see it for what it really is - there were better options, there still are better options but every minute Lowe remains, our chances of relegation and administration get closer.

 

LOWE OUT!

 

 

Answers the question in full - good post JS.

[Wes Tender]

Hypothetical questions are a waste of time except as a form of diversion from reality.

 

But just to humour you, no, I wouldn't be marching to oust Crouch and Pearson. I'd have renewed 2 season tickets too and would have been confident that as a result o higher attendances, more money would have been available to spend on better players. Pearson would have spent that money more wisely than JP, having a far greater knowledge of British players and we probably wouldn't have been in this position.

 

But if hypothetically we still found ourselves in this position, I'd accept that Crouch and Pearson had done everything to the best advantage. The protest is as much against Lowe's past decade as it is about the past few months, but the bizarre way that he has handled our financial situation and the dismissal of Pearson and the appointment of the Dutch jokers was the last straw.

[sadoldgit]

 

Bern - you are making a fool of yourself. Crouch's business uses the same branch of Barclays as the club, in Reading. Because Crouch's business is quite significant I have it on good authority (not from Crouch) that the bank would have been more than happy with his continued stewardship. Thats not saying he was a brilliant Chairman because he wasn't but.....

 

As they say, money talks!

 

Then we have heard different things Duncan, who is to say which is true? I suppose only the backers know for sure.

 

But you have answered my question, Crouch was no great shakes either. I think we can both agree that SFC deserves something better eh?

[Wes Tender]

 

Then we have heard different things Duncan, who is to say which is true? I suppose only the backers know for sure.

 

But you have answered my question, Crouch was no great shakes either. I think we can both agree that SFC deserves something better eh?

 

Not many are saying that Crouch was brilliant, me included. But a deluded few are still insisting that Lowe is the only person currently who can run the club. That is obviously a nonsense. Was he born to run Saints as his destiny? IMO Crouch would be doing a better job of it with Pearson than Lowe/the Quisling and the Dutch nonentities, for the simple reason that the club would have been more united under them and attendances would have been larger.

 

But there are many other experienced and well thought of candidates to take over the Chairmanship, so anybody who says that Lowe is the only option is obviously going to be slated for their blinkered devotion to the incompetent idiot.

[um pahars]

But there are many other experienced and well thought of candidates to take over the Chairmanship, so anybody who says that Lowe is the only option is obviously going to be slated for their blinkered devotion to the incompetent idiot.

 

I concur.

 

In the current "state of emergency" I would not have Lowe anywhere near this Club. Not only is he the single most divisive figure at this Club, but his decision making has once again found to be wanting.

 

His first major decision back at the Club has been shown up to be a total disaster, so I have no idea why people feel we must persevere with a busted flush.

 

I don't believe the return of Crouch on a day to day basis is the long term answer, but in this current situation he has to be a much better bet than the failure that is Lowe.

 

What the shareholders and current custodians of the Club should be doing is getting out there to try and find a CEO and a Chairman who can unite this Club and take it forward.

 

We have moved to replace a defunct and failing manager, so it is totally reasonable to move to do the same with a CEO.

[Sheff Saint]

To answer the pointless question at the start of this thread.

 

I'm sure, if in 10 years time, Leon Crouch is chairman and we are hovering over the relegation zone looking at life in the conference, and we've a chap from Belgium in managing the team (it's his first job), then, then i'd protest.

 

But given Lowe had 8 years (and i don't want to rake over old ground about his pro's and cons', but he basically had 8 years without too much hassle up to 2005/06) i think the next chairman should get a similar amount of time.

[St. Jason]

Yes, because it is running of the club, not the person for me. And I didn't/don't rate Pearson either.

 

 

You didn't and don't rate Pearson, who had a higher win ratio than Portaloo with no pre-season, no settling in period just straight in at the deep end, the same Pearson who sits 10 points clear at the top of his table. What would he have to do for you to rate him??

[derry]

Hypothetical questions are a waste of time except as a form of diversion from reality.

 

But just to humour you, no, I wouldn't be marching to oust Crouch and Pearson. I'd have renewed 2 season tickets too and would have been confident that as a result o higher attendances, more money would have been available to spend on better players. Pearson would have spent that money more wisely than JP, having a far greater knowledge of British players and we probably wouldn't have been in this position.

 

But if hypothetically we still found ourselves in this position, I'd accept that Crouch and Pearson had done everything to the best advantage. The protest is as much against Lowe's past decade as it is about the past few months, but the bizarre way that he has handled our financial situation and the dismissal of Pearson and the appointment of the Dutch jokers was the last straw.

 

And that, is just about it for me too. Lowe is not even from the same planet. He is one of those unique individuals who has no connection with the area, no empathy with the people, no idea that he is ever wrong, and unaware that it is contempt that people feel for him.

 

A gentleman would have just realised he didn't fit in, and as he wasn't wanted would have just sold up and left.