ottery st mary Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 LOwe employed a supposed "big name" in Redknapp and he did a fairly amateur job didn't he? Ottery, give the bloke a chance. I actually feel we have a real chance of staying up for the first time in ages. And if we do go down at least it looks like we will go down with all guns blazing, which is more than happened under good ol'Arry. You forget too easily that Wottey has played a MAJOR role in what has gone before. He is the one on behalf of Lowey that has been tightening the cuffs on JPs wrists week after week. Knife old JP in the back when he helped set up the madness that was to follow...Then try to step aside and ridicule JP as if JP was from another planet. JP will have a lot to say..contract dispute permitting with Saints. But then you already know how much Wottey had a lead role in the Dutch Masterclass. Wottey is together with Lowey and Wildey the reason we are one of the poor sides of this league. Never should have been appointed in the first place let alone this time. :smt022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 You forget too easily that Wottey has played a MAJOR role in what has gone before. He is the one on behalf of Lowey that has been tightening the cuffs on JPs wrists week after week. Knife old JP in the back when he helped set up the madness that was to follow...Then try to step aside and ridicule JP as if JP was from another planet. JP will have a lot to say..contract dispute permitting with Saints. But then you already know how much Wottey had a lead role in the Dutch Masterclass. Wottey is together with Lowey and Wildey the reason we are one of the poor sides of this league. Never should have been appointed in the first place let alone this time. :smt022 Who knows what kind of role he played before? Yes he was involved but sometimes when you play the second string you have to go along with what the main players are doing. From his comments he obvioulsy realised that JP was too rigid in his thinking and has started to show signs of being his own man. I think we should judge him on what he achieves as manager (or head coach) rather than on what went before. Perhaps we shouldn't have appointed them? Hindsight is a wonderful thing. How many of us were gutted when Strachan was appointed? Let's see what happens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 You forget too easily that Wottey has played a MAJOR role in what has gone before. He is the one on behalf of Lowey that has been tightening the cuffs on JPs wrists week after week. Knife old JP in the back when he helped set up the madness that was to follow...Then try to step aside and ridicule JP as if JP was from another planet. JP will have a lot to say..contract dispute permitting with Saints. But then you already know how much Wottey had a lead role in the Dutch Masterclass. Wottey is together with Lowey and Wildey the reason we are one of the poor sides of this league. Never should have been appointed in the first place let alone this time. :smt022So what is the answer thern.Have a 3rd manager that will unsettle the squad again.I wanted jan gone and someone with CCC experience, it hasnt happened. I now will support Wotte to a mild degree until he fails my hopes. Last night I had the belief for the first time in weeks that we could indeed dig ourselves out of the mess.Wotton,Davis,Perry Euell and Saga will help the younger players get the results.Having Killer in the coaching staff will add some steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Who knows what kind of role he played before? Yes he was involved but sometimes when you play the second string you have to go along with what the main players are doing. From his comments he obvioulsy realised that JP was too rigid in his thinking and has started to show signs of being his own man. I think we should judge him on what he achieves as manager (or head coach) rather than on what went before. Perhaps we shouldn't have appointed them? Hindsight is a wonderful thing. How many of us were gutted when Strachan was appointed? Let's see what happens... Only because Wottey and Rupert have had too..Much too late (at least xmas time was a clue to any half intelligent person what was wrong...Most of this forum and other Saints fans knew August/Sept. time) You know full well that Wottey was a main runner in the running of the side together with Rupert..Now come on mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 I'm not posting it again mate, i found his comment about fans being quick to judge offensive, simple as that! he didn't say that, just watched it again -so think you can relax! and maybe reserve your opinion of him to what he does with the team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 He said that rupert was not here last year and saints only stayed up on the last day, and we are quick to judge this year. Basically saying that we are no worse of this year than last, and after only 8 months in charge us fans are quick to judge Lowe. If he was not refering to Lowe why start by saying "Rupert was not eveu here last year", as i've said before i couldn't see any others clubs fans being as tolerant as we've been. Could you see Leeds fans welcoming Peter Ridsdale back?? Be interesting to see what sort of reception Mike Ashley gets this afternoon, a man thats sunk over £140m of his own money in the club! He didn't sat that -so if you are going to analyse his every word get them right ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 So what is the answer thern.Have a 3rd manager that will unsettle the squad again.I wanted jan gone and someone with CCC experience, it hasnt happened. I now will support Wotte to a mild degree until he fails my hopes. Last night I had the belief for the first time in weeks that we could indeed dig ourselves out of the mess.Wotton,Davis,Perry Euell and Saga will help the younger players get the results.Having Killer in the coaching staff will add some steel. My own view was to have a clean sweep they, the Dutch group of five exit stage left...If you wanted to have a coach within then Hockaday would have been better than Wottey...But a clean sweep at xmas time would have given us a fighting chance but Wottey is JP and both were led by Rupert and Kim... Wottey is only doing what most saw a long time ago...But I still want Saints to attempt some wins.....But most Lowe Luvvies still can't admit Lowe was wrong and so was the Dutch crew.....Lowe is never wrong and look how great he is now in appointing Wottey and changing tactics....Far too late. :smt022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 He was wrong to appoint Jan as that clearly didn't work and he had to go. I would have been happier to have a new outsider come in -but you can see from the comments on here, one persons saviour is anothers **** I am willing to see how Wotte does -so far there has been any improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 My own view was to have a clean sweep they, the Dutch group of five exit stage left...If you wanted to have a coach within then Hockaday would have been better than Wottey...But a clean sweep at xmas time would have given us a fighting chance but Wottey is JP and both were led by Rupert and Kim... Wottey is only doing what most saw a long time ago...But I still want Saints to attempt some wins.....But most Lowe Luvvies still can't admit Lowe was wrong and so was the Dutch crew.....Lowe is never wrong and look how great he is now in appointing Wottey and changing tactics....Far too late. :smt022Hockaday is not at the club at present and he would not motivaste the team from my info. I would have liked the lot gone board an all but my main cause is to anything I can to keep the club afloat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Only because Wottey and Rupert have had too..Much too late (at least xmas time was a clue to any half intelligent person what was wrong...Most of this forum and other Saints fans knew August/Sept. time) You know full well that Wottey was a main runner in the running of the side together with Rupert..Now come on mate. Otter me old mucker, I have no idea what went on/goes on behind the doors of St Marys and take of pinch of salt what people say here goes/went on (this place has more plants than Kew Gardens!!!). I will judge Wotte on what he does now that JP has gone. If he keeps up safe before the last game of the season I will see that as progress on last year. Hardly a giant leap forward I grant you, but I think that we all knew that this season would be tough whoever the manager was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 You know full well that Wottey was a main runner in the running of the side together with Rupert..Now come on mate. you're wasting your time with one of Lowe's and Poortvliet's (and now Wotte's main apologists). Depsite being told this was a "Revolutionary Coaching Set Up" with everyone being interchangaeable and involved, and a vision of shared responsibility and team work, we are now being fed that actually that wasn't the case. As Wotte himself said: we will discuss everything and work as a team with Stewart and Dave Now it's a case of hanging Jan out to dry (probably throwing Hockaday to the wolves as well) and saying that Wotte had fck all to do with what went on in the past.:confused: To be honest, the hypocrisy, bullsht and double standards is something we're accustomed to, but it still amuses me when the usual suspects attemot to rewrite history in order to gloss over the glaring errors overseen by some at the Club.:rolleyes::rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 To be honest, the hypocrisy, bullsht and double standards is something we're accustomed to, but it still amuses me when the usual suspects attemot to rewrite history in order to gloss over the glaring errors overseen by some at the Club.:rolleyes::rolleyes:and that has not happened for generations at most football clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landford.saint Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Why dont you try saying all that in Dutch now and see if you get the exact message across to inform all of what you mean. No, I cant either. Whether you agree with him or not its nice to have a manager that speaks his mind. I hope he is the same to the players. Also, when he said they when talking of Saints it was about a period in time before he was working here so maybe he got confused about how to discuss it in his second language. Not speaking his mind... he is speaking Low's mind.. Lowe will only have people who tow his party line as manager, anyone with a mind of his own (Pearson?) seems get get the sack (or helped to resign). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Not speaking his mind... he is speaking Low's mind.. Lowe will only have people who tow his party line as manager, anyone with a mind of his own (Pearson?) seems get get the sack (or helped to resign).I assume any manager has to be in support of the clubs ideas or there is no use employing them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Alpine Saint re Wotte: In a way, I quite dig the no-nonsense "I'm the boss" attitude he appears to bring bringing to the role Bl00dy hell! That was verging on the positive. I strongly recommend a little lie down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 I assume any manager has to be in support of the clubs ideas or there is no use employing them Of course but we have been plainly implicating the wrong ones... And this guy will do the same. A manager should be employed because he has the knowledge of the footballing matters not just here to do as the directors say who have zero knowledge of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Not speaking his mind... he is speaking Low's mind.. Lowe will only have people who tow his party line as manager, anyone with a mind of his own (Pearson?) seems get get the sack (or helped to resign). I would rather keep things factual rather than make them agenda based opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Of course but we have been plainly implicating the wrong ones... And this guy will do the same. A manager should be employed because he has the knowledge of the footballing matters not just here to do as the directors say who have zero knowledge of football. Perhaps as O suggested before, give him a few more games before dismissing him.Or do you want 3 managers in a season yet again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 I genuinely don't give a to55 what he says as long as we win. But two games in, he hasn't. If I was him I would be getting fans on MY side to ensure I got a bit of time and understanding. If he's confident he doesn't need my support - good. But he might just look a total twonk in three weeks if we don't put some real points on the board. yep...same as for who runs the club..I generally dont care as long as we win..i dont care how we win..as long as we win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Perhaps as O suggested before, give him a few more games before dismissing him.Or do you want 3 managers in a season yet again? If that`s what i takes to keep us up then yes.. We do not have time to give him a few more games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 The reaction to Wottes interview just shows how a small cabal of anti-Loweites with an agenda to undermine this club are dictating things. If you really stand back from things Wottes comments were perfectly reasonable and already a mood of pious hysteria has descended on this message board. The guy has already improved our performances on the pitch (I know its only two points but its a definite improvement) and already people are quick to undermine him. I genuinely believe there is a small vociferous bunch of fans who want to undermine this club as much as possible to further thier own pathetic agendas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 The reaction to Wottes interview just shows how a small cabal of anti-Loweites with an agenda to undermine this club are dictating things. If you really stand back from things Wottes comments were perfectly reasonable and already a mood of pious hysteria has descended on this message board. The guy has already improved our performances on the pitch (I know its only two points but its a definite improvement) and already people are quick to undermine him. I genuinely believe there is a small vociferous bunch of fans who want to undermine this club as much as possible to further their own pathetic agendas. Really? Like being murdered for the first half at Norwich.... How different the luvvies views would be if we had lost both games and could easily have done so.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 If that`s what i takes to keep us up then yes.. We do not have time to give him a few more games to continue this improvement... think we have to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chi saint Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 His comments on The Championship show's he has no knowledge of SFC or sympathy with Saints fans. Wotte "Rupert was not here last year when they (not we?) were in a simliar position, those people (us fans, nice) are very easy with their judgement" Not impressed, not impressed at all! I'm sure Wotte is really not bothered with your footbaling insights, he's trying to win games, impress the board to retain his job and ultimatly keep us up. Personally I was pleased he spoke his mind, whether you like the message or not is at this crucial stage largely irrelevant, the fact that he is harder edged than Jan and isn't looking to please everyone is the main thing. I would have preferred a more experienced English manager but it's not meant to be so i'm for the time being prepared to support him and the team in the hope that doing so will assist rather than hinder. I can't see how criticising, protesting, baracking and singing negative songs at this vital and pivitol stage of the season is going to do anything but add pressure to an already underperforming team who are clearly in the last few games trying to turn a corner. What I do think is at the moment there is a large contingent of so called fans who for some perverse reason are looking for Wotte to fail, probably because they think this will hasten Lowes exit, not considering that Wottes failure will by default signal the demise of the club, certainly in this division and possibly worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 think we have to What improvement was there? We failed to win again twice.... Editing my posts now as well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 What I do think is at the moment there is a large contingent of so called fans who for some perverse reason are looking for Wotte to fail, probably because they think this will hasten Lowes exit, not considering that Wottes failure will by default signal the demise of the club, certainly in this division and possibly worse. I think the same.Not sure its a LARGE contingent though,just a noisy minority with an agenda and another small and unthinking minority following them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team-saint Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 I don't give a **** what he says about club politics and fans if he keeps us up. Let's concentrate on what happens on the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rory Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alain Perrin Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 We are not "easy with our judgement" History is littered with examples of Saint's fans 'easy judgement' (Peter Crouch, Fuller, Pearson, Alan Bennett) - not that it is just a Saint's disease. Judge the man on results, not association or history. Far more fight in the team than I've seen in many a game and that can only be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 The reaction to Wottes interview just shows how a small cabal of anti-Loweites with an agenda to undermine this club are dictating things. If you really stand back from things Wottes comments were perfectly reasonable and already a mood of pious hysteria has descended on this message board. The guy has already improved our performances on the pitch (I know its only two points but its a definite improvement) and already people are quick to undermine him. I genuinely believe there is a small vociferous bunch of fans who want to undermine this club as much as possible to further thier own pathetic agendas.You are either on a wind-up or a complete arse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 it still amuses me when the usual suspects attemot to rewrite history in order to gloss over the glaring errors overseen by some at the Club.:rolleyes::rolleyes: Ahhhemmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 The reaction to Wottes interview just shows how a small cabal of anti-Loweites with an agenda to undermine this club are dictating things. If you really stand back from things Wottes comments were perfectly reasonable and already a mood of pious hysteria has descended on this message board. The guy has already improved our performances on the pitch (I know its only two points but its a definite improvement) and already people are quick to undermine him. I genuinely believe there is a small vociferous bunch of fans who want to undermine this club as much as possible to further thier own pathetic agendas. they will not take any notice,they have had their own agenda and carry on,most right thinking people will give the guy a chance ,rather then those few people who try to find plots and made up stories every 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 they will not take any notice,they have had their own agenda and carry on,most right thinking people will give the guy a chance ,rather then those few people who try to find plots and made up stories every 5 minutes. It's not even a case of having an agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 FFS you lot. Are you completely brainless? What did you expect him to say? "I think Rupert should go" Whoever is manager has to work within the structure he finds himself. Even your beloved Pearson would be kissing [whoever] the Chairmans arse on camera. I think you've got the balance between being Rupert haters and Southampton supporters wrong. Two games unbeaten (not great, but better than nowt) and you're on his back because of a vox-pop. You need to get a reality check and realise that, at this stage of the season, it is what happens on the pitch that will determine whether or not we survive in this league, not who is in the boardroom. To be fair Rupert, I think you spend far too much time on this forum, and not enough time running OUR club. Duck off !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 History is littered with examples of Saint's fans 'easy judgement' (Peter Crouch, Fuller, Pearson, Alan Bennett) - not that it is just a Saint's disease. Judge the man on results, not association or history. Far more fight in the team than I've seen in many a game and that can only be a good thing. You are not wrong.I can remember Alan Ball (as a player) being slagged down continually at a time when he was by far one our most influential players and the Sainted Francis Benali being booed every time he named was annouced as being on the team sheet. Saints fans are the same as any other fans in that they need a scapegoat be it Lowe,Benali,Wotton,Kelvin or whoever. Unfortunately this mood of hysterical scapegoatism has taken over and is poisoning the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 To be fair Rupert, I think you spend far too much time on this forum, and not enough time running OUR club. Duck off !!! Just because someone doesnt share your dopey views ! You are making Alan Perrins point for him lol ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 It's not even a case of having an agenda. I know what you mean but some of them do.Whether it be a lefty anti-posho agenda or a destabilise the club until we get a fan on the board agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 To be fair Rupert, I think you spend far too much time on this forum, and not enough time running OUR club. Duck off !!! I found an excerpt from the 'Anyone But Lowe Handbook' fluttering around in the breeze behind the protest yesterday, one of the marchers must have dropped it. It reads: In the event of someone disagreeing with you, on no account should you give a sensible response. We recommend employing one of the following tactics: a) Accuse them of being a PR plant. b) Accuse them of being Rupert Lowe or an associate. c) Act like a complete c*ck Congratulations on deploying (b) and © with devastating effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 I found an excerpt from the 'Anyone But Lowe Handbook' fluttering around in the breeze behind the protest yesterday, one of the marchers must have dropped it. It reads: In the event of someone disagreeing with you, on no account should you give a sensible response. We recommend employing one of the following tactics: a) Accuse them of being a PR plant. b) Accuse them of being Rupert Lowe or an associate. c) Act like a complete c*ck Congratulations on deploying (b) and © with devastating effect. :Di think that sums them up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 The Lowey Ra Ra girls throwing their Pom Poms around tonight one big bowl of laughs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 I found an excerpt from the 'Anyone But Lowe Handbook' fluttering around in the breeze behind the protest yesterday, one of the marchers must have dropped it. It reads: In the event of someone disagreeing with you, on no account should you give a sensible response. We recommend employing one of the following tactics: a) Accuse them of being a PR plant. b) Accuse them of being Rupert Lowe or an associate. c) Act like a complete c*ck Congratulations on deploying (b) and © with devastating effect. Be prepared for incoming!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 The Lowey Ra Ra girls throwing their Pom Poms around tonight one big bowl of laughs. I reckon thats (b) from the handbook. You couldnt make it up lol!What a fool ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 I know what you mean but some of them do.Whether it be a lefty anti-posho agenda or a destabilise the club until we get a fan on the board agenda. Not what I meant really Manji, but I don't think it's considered politically correct to say they're just morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 You are not wrong.I can remember Alan Ball (as a player) being slagged down continually at a time when he was by far one our most influential players and the Sainted Francis Benali being booed every time he named was annouced as being on the team sheet. Saints fans are the same as any other fans in that they need a scapegoat be it Lowe,Benali,Wotton,Kelvin or whoever. Unfortunately this mood of hysterical scapegoatism has taken over and is poisoning the club. OK Manji - I am going to (politely) atttempt to give you the reason for this "hysterical scapegoatism" because I understand the point you are making and to a degree it is true that Wotte has unfairly been tarnished before he has had a chance. Is Wotte a good manager? I don't know - how could I? I have heard things about his character which sound worrying but accept he could be the victim of political spin so let's give him the benefit of the doubt. I think the reason people make remarks like "same meat different gravy" when they learnt of his appointment was because it was a Lowe appointment. Unfortunately whether or not you agree with the overriding sentiments a majority on here feel to Lowe the simple fact is his reputation is so shot to tatters that anything he does (like appoint Wotte) will not be trusted and will be derided. This was my whole point when he called the EGM alongside Wilde. I can understand why he wanted to come back, and I can't knock the bloke in thinking he could do a better job and I can't blame the man for wanting to prove a point but he should have realised in the fickle word of football whenever a fanbase turn their backs there is usually never ever a 2nd happy homecoming. He should have left well alone imo. I have tried to answer your valid question with a little courtesy, I am not trying to wind you up, merely trying to empathise with your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 (edited) I reckon thats (b) from the handbook. You couldnt make it up lol!What a fool ! manji no offence meant...Iv'e taken worse and laughed with it.. Lighten up and go with the flow...We are all on the same side, hopefully supporting the team. By the way be more careful with your Pom Poms, you'll poke someones eye out.:D Edited 1 February, 2009 by ottery st mary spelling copying sadoldgit too often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommi Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 I found an excerpt from the 'Anyone But Lowe Handbook' fluttering around in the breeze behind the protest yesterday, one of the marchers must have dropped it. It reads: In the event of someone disagreeing with you, on no account should you give a sensible response. We recommend employing one of the following tactics: a) Accuse them of being a PR plant. b) Accuse them of being Rupert Lowe or an associate. c) Act like a complete c*ck Congratulations on deploying (b) and © with devastating effect. You should be banned from this board for: a) being able to think for yourself b) having your own opinion c) not being a PR plant It's obvious to me - you're Michael Wilde :-) Top post though, perfectly sums 'them' up on here. Tommi P.S. Why is such a big deal being made about Wotte's comments? FFS, get a life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 OK Manji - I am going to (politely) atttempt to give you the reason for this "hysterical scapegoatism" because I understand the point you are making and to a degree it is true that Wotte has unfairly been tarnished before he has had a chance. Is Wotte a good manager? I don't know - how could I? I have heard things about his character which sound worrying but accept he could be the victim of political spin so let's give him the benefit of the doubt. I think the reason people make remarks like "same meat different gravy" when they learnt of his appointment was because it was a Lowe appointment. Unfortunately whether or not you agree with the overriding sentiments a majority on here feel to Lowe the simple fact is his reputation is so shot to tatters that anything he does (like appoint Wotte) will not be trusted and will be derided. This was my whole point when he called the EGM alongside Wilde. I can understand why he wanted to come back, and I can't knock the bloke in thinking he could do a better job and I can't blame the man for wanting to prove a point but he should have realised in the fickle word of football whenever a fanbase turn their backs there is usually never ever a 2nd happy homecoming. He should have left well alone imo. I have tried to answer your valid question with a little courtesy, I am not trying to wind you up, merely trying to empathise with your opinion. Thanks for a thoughtful reply but realistically the response to Wottes interview is very much hysterical scapegoatism and can only damage the club futher. I do not in any way believe that (a) administration or (b) relegation will in anyway benefit the club. As I have said I really do think that this rabid anti-Loweism has got to the point where some fans do wish this club ill. For my part I am not as Pro-Lowe as some might think (here goes my free season ticket and hospitality from Rupert) but I have not heard any CREDIBLE alternative.If Lowe left and Crouch/McMenemy took over things would get worse as they did before and I see no viable alternative.Please dont quote that pathetic Merrington led group or SISU either. It really does feel like many are just protesting because we got relegated and are not doing very well anymore and 50/60 other clubs could be doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit2 Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 It really does feel like many are just protesting because we got relegated and are not doing very well anymore and 50/60 other clubs could be doing that. yeah ok whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 yeah ok whatever Brilliant reply.Is it that easy to become an administrator ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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