Jump to content

Picture of today's protests...


Gordon Mockles

Recommended Posts

I can see where Manji is coming from re the numbers of those that attended.

 

I guess as you got near the stadium fans not involved with the protest merge with those that were on the march.

 

A couple of my mates who were not involved ended amongst the protest march as they neared the stadium. I have just seen them in the Video that was taken outside the pub. Also George the postie (Bike man) did not take part but he is in the video pushing his bike. Was that woman with the push chair really a fan, the kid in it must have been petrified

 

manji is partly right in what he is saying but setting that aside . there was still a good turnout

 

I was at the back of the queue and when I looked back up Old Northam Road as we went past the King Alfred the road was pretty empty. You don't get that many fans walking to the ground at 1:40!!!!!!!

 

Also when we went past the footbridge to the ground (the march didn't go over the footbridge) the only person who had taken a right there was one copper.

 

And Hannover Buildings/Hoglands Park/Kingsway is probably not the route that anyone takes!!!!!

 

There were a few supporters in wheelchairs, a few pushchairs, a few on their bikes, a couple walking dogs and even a skater in her bikini (OK I made the last one up).

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I can see where Manji is coming from re the numbers of those that attended.

 

I guess as you got near the stadium fans not involved with the protest merge with those that were on the march.

 

A couple of my mates who were not involved ended amongst the protest march as they neared the stadium. I have just seen them in the Video that was taken outside the pub. Also George the postie (Bike man) did not take part but he is in the video pushing his bike. Was that woman with the push chair really a fan, the kid in it must have been petrified

 

manji is partly right in what he is saying but setting that aside . there was still a good turnout

 

tbh if you weren't there you don't know what you are talking about!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks for reminding me of the pub name steve, King Alfred . was it not called something else when we first moved to SMS?

 

I drank in there a couple of times but could never remember the name . bit like the corner post aka fitzhugh Arms.

Used to drink in t pubs near the station the converted church and the pub opposite , can remember what they are called.

 

Think I have dementia as Im having difficulty tryng to remember whne we last had a home win. Was it yesterday:cool:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The march was brilliant and the behaviour impeccable. By the time we had reached the ground and finished we were in such high spirits that the atmosphere in the stadium had to be infected. A good game that could have been better but the team as a whole showed some fight. The first shot has been fired and now before the warm glow of satisfaction diminishes we have to get stage two prepared. I only took my 14 yo daughter this time but next intend to take the whole family. 7 of us.

Well done to all organisers and thank you. You have given a lot of us hope.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

now now Duncan don't get a strop on.

 

IYour right I wasnt there so cannot make a sound judgement. only relating what a couple of mates said when they phoned me. However judging by the pictures on Youtube there was a good turnout certainly significantly more than the 300 that was being bandied about. more like a 1000

 

Hope your well

 

Mike:)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Forget the spin, this demonstration was a success. Why? Because the numbers were more than were expected, because it was peaceful, because it gained the media recognition and because it sends a message.

 

This was not the "lunatic fringe", this was a cross representation of Saints Fans who love their club.

 

Lowe and Wilde take notice. Acknowledge this group and let's have a response.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks for reminding me of the pub name steve, King Alfred . was it not called something else when we first moved to SMS?

 

I drank in there a couple of times but could never remember the name . bit like the corner post aka fitzhugh Arms.

Used to drink in t pubs near the station the converted church and the pub opposite , can remember what they are called.

 

Think I have dementia as Im having difficulty tryng to remember whne we last had a home win. Was it yesterday:cool:

 

I think it was the Queen Vic and it was also called something before that as well.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Having ignored the obvious trolls and plants, it's great to see Lowe has finally united the fans...against him! LOL

 

Despite our predicament, which is clearly p*ss poor and entirely down to Lowe and Wilde's ludicrous decisions, I do have a quiet chuckle. My reservations and instincts proved spot on. Those trolls and plants are bitter and twisted weirdos. They humiliate themselves and yet STILL cannot shut up, and continue to humiliate themselves. They certainly are not Saints fans. They're just on here to stir up trouble and they cannot tolerate their right wing, megalomaniac idol Lowe has fallen (had he ever taken off?) and is, and always has been, a complete failure. They cannot tolerate the sheer unity (in large numbers) and cohesion of the fans against their caliginous regime, the community spirit that evades them...the laughable attack on Duncan and other posters. Best to ignore. They've nothing better to do with their lives that poke fun of the people fighting to keep our club alive...while the people they purport to support holiday. How can you argue against such stupidity and twisted logic?!

 

Answer, you can't! They'll argue 'til they're blue in the face (probably with an orange stuffed in their mouth! LOL) Ignore the t*ssers!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Answer, you can't! They'll argue 'til they're blue in the face (probably with an orange stuffed in their mouth! LOL) Ignore the t*ssers!

 

I think we should take comfort and support from their posts, which are obviously tinged with a big deal of pssedoffedness!!!!!!!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Having ignored the obvious trolls and plants, it's great to see Lowe has finally united the fans...against him! LOL

 

Despite our predicament, which is clearly p*ss poor and entirely down to Lowe and Wilde's ludicrous decisions, I do have a quiet chuckle. My reservations and instincts proved spot on. Those trolls and plants are bitter and twisted weirdos. They humiliate themselves and yet STILL cannot shut up, and continue to humiliate themselves. They certainly are not Saints fans. They're just on here to stir up trouble and they cannot tolerate their right wing, megalomaniac idol Lowe has fallen (had he ever taken off?) and is, and always has been, a complete failure. They cannot tolerate the sheer unity (in large numbers) and cohesion of the fans against their caliginous regime, the community spirit that evades them...the laughable attack on Duncan and other posters. Best to ignore. They've nothing better to do with their lives that poke fun of the people fighting to keep our club alive...while the people they purport to support holiday. How can you argue against such stupidity and twisted logic?!

 

Answer, you can't! They'll argue 'til they're blue in the face (probably with an orange stuffed in their mouth! LOL) Ignore the t*ssers!

 

Gordon, your rant says more about you than the people you call tossers.

 

I can find fault in much that Lowe has done/is doing, but in the land of the blind etc. I think he is the best option we have of avoiding admin (note: my opinion). Your attitude though, drives me to want to defend Lowe more than he has a right for.

 

I can handle your "I'm right so everyone else must be wrong" attitude, we can call it self-belief. However, it is the blinkered "I'm right so everyone that disagrees must be a PR Plant/Pompey fan/Troll etc." attitude that devalues anything else meaningful you might have to say.

 

We are all Saints fans.

We all want Saints to do well.

We disagree on the how and the who.

 

Deal with it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Forget the spin, this demonstration was a success. Why? Because the numbers were more than were expected, because it was peaceful, because it gained the media recognition and because it sends a message.

 

This was not the "lunatic fringe", this was a cross representation of Saints Fans who love their club.

 

Lowe and Wilde take notice. Acknowledge this group and let's have a response.

 

 

Voice of reason

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I live in leeds but still regularly visit soton as i have family there.I can honestly state i know of no saints fan who lives in southampton that has any time for mr lowe.The only people i know that support him ,do so behind a keyboard(most of them on this forum).Strange

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think, if some of you could put your "objective" heads on, you'd realise that the number of people who actually support lowe, the man, could be counted on one hand. There are, however, a far larger number of people who either don't think Crouch is the answer to the problem or think that any knee-jerk reaction to Lowe's 'vision' will ultimately have more harm, in the short term especially. Neither of these opinions warrants the "Lowe luvvie" jibes that i see on here far too often.

 

Just my 2p.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think, if some of you could put your "objective" heads on, you'd realise that the number of people who actually support lowe, the man, could be counted on one hand. There are, however, a far larger number of people who either don't think Crouch is the answer to the problem or think that any knee-jerk reaction to Lowe's 'vision' will ultimately have more harm, in the short term especially. Neither of these opinions warrants the "Lowe luvvie" jibes that i see on here far too often.

 

Just my 2p.

 

A very well thought out and valid point, probably worth a hell of a lot more than 2p in my estimation!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Gordon, your rant says more about you than the people you call tossers.

 

I can find fault in much that Lowe has done/is doing, but in the land of the blind etc. I think he is the best option we have of avoiding admin (note: my opinion). Your attitude though, drives me to want to defend Lowe more than he has a right for.

 

I can handle your "I'm right so everyone else must be wrong" attitude, we can call it self-belief. However, it is the blinkered "I'm right so everyone that disagrees must be a PR Plant/Pompey fan/Troll etc." attitude that devalues anything else meaningful you might have to say.

 

We are all Saints fans.

We all want Saints to do well.

We disagree on the how and the who.

 

Deal with it.

 

But what do you say to some of the ridiculous posts on here, ridiculing a very successful march?

 

"There weren't that many people, some of them were on their way to the game"

"The police were lying about the numbers to boost overtime"

"Nyah nayh, what does it achieve? Has anything changed overnight??"

 

Some people would say just about anything rather than praise the passion showed by 1500 fans making a stand and exerting their right to criticise a vastly incompetent board.

 

If some of the perceived "Lowe Luvvies" showed just a modicum of good sportsmanship and admitted the march was a bigger success than they thought then perhaps people wouldn't take glee at rubbing their noses in it...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Well done to those that organised the protest and well done to those that turned up it was good.

 

Thanks to all that bought our Badges it was me my Dad Brother and Nephew that was selling them my Brother had 250 made and we sold out by the time we left the Bargate.

 

Someone gave 1 to Leon Crouch and he has ordered a 1000 lol we will try and sort out some more or something different for the next 1.

 

UTS

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I can see where Manji is coming from re the numbers of those that attended.

 

I guess as you got near the stadium fans not involved with the protest merge with those that were on the march.

 

A couple of my mates who were not involved ended amongst the protest march as they neared the stadium. I have just seen them in the Video that was taken outside the pub. Also George the postie (Bike man) did not take part but he is in the video pushing his bike. Was that woman with the push chair really a fan, the kid in it must have been petrified

 

manji is partly right in what he is saying but setting that aside . there was still a good turnout

The kid was sound asleep, and was not scared at all, His brother was on my shoulders. my five year old thought it was great fun, the tv people talking to him, the Police were friendly, and everyone had behaved themselves. was a good show of Pride and passion, something that is sadly missing from many.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I was very heartened by the march if nothing else it publically showed that the passion and commitment with those who support Southampton Football Club is alive and well.

I had feared that apathy was becoming so institutionlised at the club and I will be honest and have to admit that I have felt highly apathetic towards the club in recent times. It really does drag you down wondering how we deserved to be thrown into this unholy mess by being controlled by 3 useless amigos and inbetween times by a bunch of tossers like Hone and Orange man to name but two.

 

But seeing how well the march was supported and conducted was a real positive boost and well done to all.

 

I hope that this can energise and galvanise the club to prevail in another rearguard action to save our CCC status - Then hopefully we can deal once and for all with the leadership of this club.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Gordon, your rant says more about you than the people you call tossers.

 

I can find fault in much that Lowe has done/is doing, but in the land of the blind etc. I think he is the best option we have of avoiding admin (note: my opinion). Your attitude though, drives me to want to defend Lowe more than he has a right for.

 

I can handle your "I'm right so everyone else must be wrong" attitude, we can call it self-belief. However, it is the blinkered "I'm right so everyone that disagrees must be a PR Plant/Pompey fan/Troll etc." attitude that devalues anything else meaningful you might have to say.

 

We are all Saints fans.

We all want Saints to do well.

We disagree on the how and the who.

 

Deal with it.

 

Coming from someone named after a Skate manager, I'll take that with an unhealthy pinch of salt!

 

I do agree, I can be quite self-righteous in my ripostes. I just have a strong self-belief, as you suggest. I don't suffer fools lightly and I don't jump to decisions rashly. Sorry if that seems or comes across as arrogant. I just struggle to understand how Saints fans can justify that Rupert Lowe has been anything other than an unmitigated disaster. No-one I have met, outside of this forum, has anything but scorn for Lowe and Wilde. One thing which came across to me from this weekend (march, protests, result, support within St Mary's) was the sheer quality of Saints fans, despite the abysmal treatment and total lack of respect shown by the pitiful Saints management. Even Wotte was disrespectful with his comments on the tele.

 

Ok, calling people tossers is a bit strong by me but we're all passionate (and many enraged) about the terribly incompetent management of our club. Strong feelings and all. Any person who happens to support men (Wilde and Lowe and those who support them like Askham, Richards, etc.) who are destined for failure (with seriously questionable motives) and negligently destroying our club need to ask themselves questions. Yes, there are trolls. Not all but it's certainly clear there are wind up merchants getting some perverse thrill from baiting threads and winding people up. Not paranoia, the syntax suggests many users are the same person in different guises. Anyway, I digress.

 

Oh, thanks for not being patronising though! *cough* ;)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

But what do you say to some of the ridiculous posts on here, ridiculing a very successful march?

 

"There weren't that many people, some of them were on their way to the game"

"The police were lying about the numbers to boost overtime"

"Nyah nayh, what does it achieve? Has anything changed overnight??"

 

Some people would say just about anything rather than praise the passion showed by 1500 fans making a stand and exerting their right to criticise a vastly incompetent board.

 

If some of the perceived "Lowe Luvvies" showed just a modicum of good sportsmanship and admitted the march was a bigger success than they thought then perhaps people wouldn't take glee at rubbing their noses in it...

 

My attitude is exactly the same to those that belittle the march, it's purile and it is self perpetuating. From the 'ye ha we've got out club back' triumphalism, through to this thread.

 

Take this march, for every poster deriding the numbers there's another one over egging them. Look at this thread to see how the estimate has gone up. Starting at 'over 500' through to claims of 'over 2000' - purely in reaction to baiting.

 

The actual number, who knows, significant. No doubt some of them were on the way to the ground, and may or may not have agreed / been ambivilent. The fact is many made the effort to protest.

 

Do I agree with their aims? It depends on what they are, and this is where my problem is. I fear a post-war Iraq scenario where the evil dictator has been toppled, with no real clue of what comes after.

 

I seem to remember we've been there before....

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think, if some of you could put your "objective" heads on, you'd realise that the number of people who actually support lowe, the man, could be counted on one hand. There are, however, a far larger number of people who either don't think Crouch is the answer to the problem or think that any knee-jerk reaction to Lowe's 'vision' will ultimately have more harm, in the short term especially. Neither of these opinions warrants the "Lowe luvvie" jibes that i see on here far too often.

 

Just my 2p.

 

People should pay attention to this. Sadly, they won't.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Coming from someone named after a Skate manager, I'll take that with an unhealthy pinch of salt!

 

I do agree, I can be quite self-righteous in my ripostes. I just have a strong self-belief, as you suggest. I don't suffer fools lightly and I don't jump to decisions rashly. Sorry if that seems or comes across as arrogant. I just struggle to understand how Saints fans can justify that Rupert Lowe has been anything other than an unmitigated disaster. No-one I have met, outside of this forum, has anything but scorn for Lowe and Wilde. One thing which came across to me from this weekend (march, protests, result, support within St Mary's) was the sheer quality of Saints fans, despite the abysmal treatment and total lack of respect shown by the pitiful Saints management. Even Wotte was disrespectful with his comments on the tele.

 

Ok, calling people tossers is a bit strong by me but we're all passionate (and many enraged) about the terribly incompetent management of our club. Strong feelings and all. Any person who happens to support men (Wilde and Lowe and those who support them like Askham, Richards, etc.) who are destined for failure (with seriously questionable motives) and negligently destroying our club need to ask themselves questions. Yes, there are trolls. Not all but it's certainly clear there are wind up merchants getting some perverse thrill from baiting threads and winding people up. Not paranoia, the syntax suggests many users are the same person in different guises. Anyway, I digress.

 

Oh, thanks for not being patronising though! *cough* ;)

 

Ah my name dates back before my ill-fated engagement with the Skates, indeed when he was touted as an option for us. Back in the S4E days I thought it would be amusing to change my name and write a witty question as to why I (Alain) should join Southampton. It coincided with the mods stopping the ability to change names - the wind changed, as it were, and I was stuck with it.

 

Regarding Rupert as bad for the club, I think it depends how you ask the question. I know plenty (more) people that think Lowe is bad for the club, but I do know a healthy minority who are fearful of an 'Anyone but Lowe' knee jerk reaction. And I'm in that camp.

 

In my opinion it has reached a state where any nuance (on either side) is twisted to fit an agenda. Take Wotte's comment. No one here knows what question he was asked, yet there are pages on here deriding him.

 

He could have been asked "What do you think of the banners and placards wanting you out after just one game", in which case his answer would have been appropriate.

 

I think if people could try and be objective and not see evil in everything then that would be a start.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

People should pay attention to this. Sadly, they won't.

 

Maybe because it's not a knee jerk reaction to the Dutch experiment.

 

Maybe many Saints fans understood the need to have an experienced manager, with knowledge and experience of the English game.

 

Maybe that gave Jan the benefit and are a bit ******ed of at only 1 home win this season.

 

Maybe they blame Lowe for foisting his vision on "our" club.

 

You've always toed the party line and it shows, try thinking for yourself for a change.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Maybe because it's not a knee jerk reaction to the Dutch experiment.

 

Maybe many Saints fans understood the need to have an experienced manager, with knowledge and experience of the English game.

 

Maybe that gave Jan the benefit and are a bit ******ed of at only 1 home win this season.

 

Maybe they blame Lowe for foisting his vision on "our" club.

 

You've always toed the party line and it shows, try thinking for yourself for a change.

 

It might well be you who can't think for yourself.

 

Baaa.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It might well be you who can't think for yourself.

 

Baaa.

 

Or it might be that instead of following the party line, as you always do like the good would-be politico you are, I've looked at the evidence and reached my own conclusion.

 

You should try it. Mention politics in The Lounge and you're trot out the party line and mention anything deogratory about SFC and you'll do the same.

 

Good clone, sit boy, sit.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Or it might be that instead of following the party line, as you always do like the good would-be politico you are, I've looked at the evidence and reached my own conclusion.

 

You should try it. Mention politics in The Lounge and you're trot out the party line and mention anything deogratory about SFC and you'll do the same.

 

Good clone, sit boy, sit.

 

It's a shame that many people have trouble reading. You are little more than a sheep following along with the masses, believing that this makes you right.

 

You clearly didn't read what Ponty wrote, have no intention of doing so, and fail to grasp the point he makes. Baaa.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

hcdajfu Centre Forward alongside Saga.

 

Also from the Echo.

 

?type=display

 

anklenippyinattack.jpg

 

haha, never miss a chance to post another pic of my dog Trouser in his Saints kit.

 

He has something of the Saga about him... ...and note the shaved leg - would fit in nicely on the Saints injury list ;-)

 

(NB: not to be confused with regular contributor to these forums Trousers)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

anklenippyinattack.jpg

 

haha, never miss a chance to post another pic of my dog Trouser in his Saints kit.

 

He has something of the Saga about him... ...and note the shaved leg - would fit in nicely on the Saints injury list ;-)

 

(NB: not to be confused with regular contributor to these forums Trousers)

 

I can see lots of good RUNS with this fiersome striking partnership.

 

This duo reminds me of the good old days.....Reeves and O'Brien.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Forget the spin, this demonstration was a success. Why? Because the numbers were more than were expected, because it was peaceful, because it gained the media recognition and because it sends a message.

 

This was not the "lunatic fringe", this was a cross representation of Saints Fans who love their club.

 

Lowe and Wilde take notice. Acknowledge this group and let's have a response.

 

think bit in bold is when it can really be judged a success -i.e. achieving something.

 

It does appear to have been well attended and run.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Take Wotte's comment. No one here knows what question he was asked, yet there are pages on here deriding him.

 

He could have been asked "What do you think of the banners and placards wanting you out after just one game", in which case his answer would have been appropriate.

You are saying that there were banners and placards wanting Wotte out on Saturday?

That's the first I've heard of it.

:confused:

Or were you making things up to prove some point ;)?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Quote:

Originally Posted by wadesmith

I can't beleive it took 6 people to carry that paper coffin. Surely that thing wasn't that heavy.

 

 

They had the weight of the club resting on their shoulders.

The coffin was supposed to be in the image of the death of our club. Surely even you realised that?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...