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Do you believe we can stay up with Wotte?

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OldNick

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sorry just being annoying as usual :D

 

You going on the protest march tommorow?

No probs. No im not one for marches although I do understand why its being done.I have business committments and leave at the very last minute to get to the game.
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ozzmeister

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I think we have a good enough squad to stay up. However it depends what you believe about administration being just round the corner. If it is and were likely to enter the board may decode to take the point hit this season rather than being handicapped (as bmouth are this season) at the strat of next.

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saintjay77

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I have little more confidence in Wotte than I had in JP. Neither is experienced in British football at this level. The only possible glimmer of hope is that because Wotte was prepared to change the formation at Norwich for the second half and play two strikers up front, he showed more flexibility in tactical changes than the hapless Jan had demonstrated in over half a season before. If he is somebody that learns from his mistakes and rectifies them accordingly, then there is at least more chance of survival than under JP who seemingly learnt nothing from his mistakes.

 

But then again, Lowe has never learned anything from his mistakes as he doesn't even acknowledge having made any. It is a bit of a connundrum as to whether Wotte can do better than JP having been his subordinate. If he could, why wasn't he appointed before JP? Frankly I have little faith in either of them and fear that the entire barmy Dutch experiment should have been dropped like a hot brick at the time of JPs departure. Lowe's insistence of carrying on with Wotte instead of appointing a capable British manager will be the reason for our relegation, but at least if that happens, Lowe will have nowhere to hide and noboby to blame but himself.

 

 

I think many people wrote it off before it got going because Lowe had a crazy idea that this "Dutch Experiment" might do better than the previous 13 years of doing things the english way.

 

Same as it was a crazy idea bringing Redcrap here and a crazy idea letting Dodd and Gorman have so long but it was a smart idea to get in Hoddle and WGS and Pearson. :rolleyes:

 

Not appointing someone else and sticking with Wotte IMO has to do with Money as much as Lowe's pride. I mean if money wasnt an issue he would have stuck with Wotte but then if money wasnt an issue we wouldnt have loaned out all our high earners and might not be in the same position. But right now he will hide behind the lack of money as a reason for sticking with Wotte.

 

As for the "Dutch Experiment", I think it can work with the right ingredients and the right backing. Dont care if Lowe had the idea to do it or if it was Stanleys idea. Still think its worth tryinfg something different to what we have tried in the past decade.

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Gemmel

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Heart and head arguing with each other again. Heart says yes, head says no.

 

Having lived through all the relegation battles in the 90's, this one seems very different. This has been mentioned before, but we all belived in those days we would survive and so did the players, without being over the top about it, it always felt like we were all in it together and we all pulled in the same direction. There is an air of inenvitability about relegation this year, with many (Including myself) that are almost expecting it.

 

if woote does pull it off, then he deserves the freedom of the city, but i just cant see it.

 

If we lose tomorrow, i don't think there will be a way back- for the team or the board. Going back over the years on this forum (in its different forms) i've lost count the amount of times ive read "Crucial Match" "Must win game" "Biggest match is our history" etc etc. But for me tomorrow is **** or bust. If we win we have a chance, if we lose the fans will revolt and the divisions will be even bigger.

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No probs. No im not one for marches although I do understand why its being done.I have business committments and leave at the very last minute to get to the game.

 

Thats understandable, I kind of want to do my bit but have no idea who we are aiming the protest march at as others have stated chances are neither lowe or wilde will be in attendance the way thing are going. Maybe its purely for media coverage?

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SaintDonkey

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No. The strategy he was a party to has completely failed this season. He was part of the management team that lost the dressing room.

 

Since it's apparent that he and Jan were barely on speaking terms I think to label them a mangement team is stretching a point. It may have been the intention that they work together closely but it's readily apparent that this did not happen.

 

However troll baiting aside I don't believe he can keep us up. I'm not sure that any of the availbale candidates could have done - the change needed to be made before Christmas. Wotte has my support until the end of the season, after all he can hardly drag us further into the mire unlike Dodd and Gorman last year. Who knows he might even catch some luck like Pearson did last year and keep us up on the final day.

 

The real problem remains Lowe, any manager he appoints will not have the support of all the fans.

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Legod Third Coming

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We have a manager with no experience in England whose first team sheet read like a list of players on a transfer list or treatment table with all the shape of a blancmange.

 

We have a team of young enthusiastic amateurs and mish-mash journeymen playing in positions they had barely heard of until this season.

 

In front of crowd hell-bent on fighting one another.

 

Under a Chairman who is now in hiding from the Southampton Mafia.

 

Led by a PLC Chairman who makes Tim nice but Dim from Harry Enfield look like firking Einstein.

 

Yes, I would say the chances are excellent.

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OldNick

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Thats understandable, I kind of want to do my bit but have no idea who we are aiming the protest march at as others have stated chances are neither lowe or wilde will be in attendance the way thing are going. Maybe its purely for media coverage?
if a couple of thousand turn up it will be of some use, if it is only a few hundred at best then it will be brushed off as a minority.

I beleive that the removal of Jan will mean quite a few who would have gone and were only waverers will now not turn up and wait and see what transpires.At the end of the day it is hard for fans who love the club, then be part of something we all know in some way damages it.

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JohnnyFartPants

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Will we stay up under Wotte? Not a cat in hells chance.

 

Do tell why. We are not loads of points adrift from the other crap teams so why no chance at all? I think we have as much chance as any other team down there of putting a run together, or indeed if nobody put one together any of them down there could just about fall over the finishing line, ourself included.

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