Who do we want next as Saints manager?

[Gloucester Saint]

16 minutes ago, Maggie May said:

He’s one of four ex-Saints in the top six of Ligue 1.

SAA, Salisu, Maitland-Niles, Caleta-Car.

 

If Carlsberg did damning statistics about the state of coaching and management at Southampton Football Club…

[CB Fry]

3 minutes ago, trousers said:

My (semi-serious) underlying point is that we'll merrily spend money willy nilly on dross players yet, seemingly, baulk at the notion of splashing the cash on a decent manager....

I think the point is if you spend £100m on the manager you can't then say "sorry it's frees and loans for the players because we spent the budget on you".

[Holmes_and_Watson]

6 minutes ago, trousers said:

My (semi-serious) underlying point is that we'll merrily spend money willy nilly on dross players yet, seemingly, baulk at the notion of splashing the cash on a decent manager....

SR look to keep the wages on those individuals as low as they can. That seems to override any sense of squad management. For example, our numbers at left back, left midfield or multiple forwards when our main targets get better offers. That seems to apply to their managers too. Always looking for a cheaper, up and coming manager.

If we got him in the building...

"Right, Ronald. Here's the transfer software with your selection of players on it. No, we only use this now. We've already clicked the left field bargain filter for you.

No, you can't get any of those. You'll have to manually check to see if they can play left back, and have never been a DM. Our video scouts are checking to ensure they have no leadership qualities at all. That means Jack can be captain and your assistant manager, Adam can still play.

Enough of this for now. Let me introduce you across our multi club model. First up is Rasmus, who will tell you, Ronald Koeman, about all the secrets behind football success."

[Whitey Grandad]

7 hours ago, Turkish said:

football is all cyclical, im sure it wont be long before some genius manager comes up with the brilliant idea of playing two lines of 4, with pacy wingers, a big lad up front next to a good little 'un to get on the end of his flicks. It'll be lapped up by the hipsters as genius with the number 7 and 11s being the new gold standard in modern football with them being given cool positions like wide layer outer offensive forwards. Their job will be to provide cross field penatration assists into the number 9 or as he'll be called the deep lying attacking pivot. Any team with two great wide layer outer offensive forwards and a strong deep lying attacking pivot is gonna cook in the XG numbers bro!

Brillo !

[Matthew Le God]

53 minutes ago, Maggie May said:

He’s one of four ex-Saints in the top six of Ligue 1.

SAA, Salisu, Maitland-Niles, Caleta-Car.

 

 

40 minutes ago, SNSUN said:

Sekou Mara and Minamino too. Players do better when they're not playing for Saints. 😁

 

35 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

If Carlsberg did damning statistics about the state of coaching and management at Southampton Football Club…

I think that is more damning about the standard of the French league than it is of Saints! 

[Gloucester Saint]

3 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

 

I think that is more damning about the standard of the French league than it is of Saints! 

Bit of both isn’t it? It’s not as competitive as the PL, certainly not the PL of old, but it’s still stronger than most European leagues. Even you’d agree that Saints haven’t got anywhere near the best out of their players in the way we used to 10-15 years ago when top clubs would sniff. Just Dibling and Fernandes of the current lot, and the latter is more down to the individual than anything else.

[Lighthouse]

18 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Bit of both isn’t it? It’s not as competitive as the PL, certainly not the PL of old, but it’s still stronger than most European leagues. Even you’d agree that Saints haven’t got anywhere near the best out of their players in the way we used to 10-15 years ago when top clubs would sniff. Just Dibling and Fernandes of the current lot, and the latter is more down to the individual than anything else.

I’d say it was like 90:10 the French league being much worse than the PL. Just look at José Fonte, who looked finished at this level playing for West Ham, then went on to have years of success at Lille. As poorly managed as we’ve been, none of those players were PL material. If they were then other PL teams would have snapped them up when we went down. Just look at AMN - not even our player, Arsenal just didn’t rate him at all. He was basically the Maxwel Cornet of two years ago.

[Oisin]

1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

 

I think that is more damning about the standard of the French league than it is of Saints! 

Yeah, the French league is rubbish; just look at how their sides do in European competitions, especially in direct comparison with English premier league teams

[Maggie May]

1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

 

I think that is more damning about the standard of the French league than it is of Saints! 

It’s a damning indictment they’d rather be challenging for Europe in this “lower standard French league” than playing for us. 

[Matthew Le God]

Growing number of names linked with RB Leipzig. Rohl just one of many linked.

 

[leesaint88]

14 hours ago, trousers said:

My (semi-serious) underlying point is that we'll merrily spend money willy nilly on dross players yet, seemingly, baulk at the notion of splashing the cash on a decent manager....

The Championship is a horrible league to get out of and even with parachute payments it doesn't mean you'll be up there. So for a lot of 'established' managers its just not worth the risk, why drop down when you can get a job in the top flight and challenge the best. Taking a job with 'less' money at someone like Wolves is far more attractive than us..

[Dman]

57 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Growing number of names linked with RB Leipzig. Rohl just one of many linked.

 

I can't help but feel like the Rohl link is just his agent getting his name out there to drive a better deal with whatever club he signs for.. I.e us. 

Would be ridiculous gamble from RB, who aren't short of cash, to take a punt on such an inexperienced manager.. Especially after RB salzburg were bitten by appointing that assistant from liverpool. 

FWIW - I've got all my eggs in the Rohl camp. Put his name forward as a someone to potentially look at before we appointed Martin and I think he's done a brilliant job under farcial circumstances at Sheff Weds. Make no mistake, based on player ability, they're a L1 side without him. 

I just think he needs a step between a european club like RB and where he is atm. We'd provide a good stepping stone for him and a good year or 2 with us and he'll be jumping clubs like RB. 

Failing Rohl, Cooper would be a safe pair of hands. Not the most exciting, but would be on board with that - Honestly just cannot see it happening though..