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Toussaint

Toussaint

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4 hours ago, ally_uk said:

Have we actually interviewed candidates yet? 

Rasmus has interviewed himself, my source tells me he was simultaneously inspired and awe struck, he has put himself on a very short  shortlist to be presented to Spors before the end of the week.  

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gurru991

gurru991

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1 hour ago, Saint NL said:

Leeds are sacking Farke immediately after getting promoted. That's what we should have done with Martin.

 

Bold decision from the Leeds board.

It's the right decision.    He's not Premier League quality.

I think Scott Parker may be OK at Burnley though.

OldNick

OldNick

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1 hour ago, gurru991 said:

It's the right decision.    He's not Premier League quality.

I think Scott Parker may be OK at Burnley though.

He was rubbish at Bournemouth, entitled arrogant twat, he'd fit right in at Leicester

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SW5 SAINT

SW5 SAINT

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6 hours ago, Saint NL said:

Leeds are sacking Farke immediately after getting promoted. That's what we should have done with Martin.

 

Bold decision from the Leeds board.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Leeds appoint Dyche or Cooper…..

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Dr. Kucho

Dr. Kucho

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On 22/04/2025 at 00:23, Forester said:

Will Still section on Sky was an interesting watch.  Comes across as a little less “polished” than most top flight managers, but given only 32 and managing for three seasons that is unsurprising.

However things I think most Saints fans would have enjoyed hearing:

- I want to play forward

- I don’t just want possession

- I always want an angle on every pass, harder to press that way

- I don’t believe in sticking to one philosophy, and if promoted from championship to Premier League you can’t expect to play the same way.  Some times you have to win ugly 

Clearly is doing a good job at second club in Ligue 1 and you can see why he is being courted by clubs.  Fluent in three languages and knowledge of Belgian and French markets useful too.

 

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CB Fry

CB Fry

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31 minutes ago, SW5 SAINT said:

I wouldn't be surprised to see Leeds appoint Dyche or Cooper…..

They're not going to sack Farke to then go and appoint one of those two. 

If they are making a big call like that it must be because they have a significant upgrade in mind.

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Turkish

Turkish

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On 22/04/2025 at 17:58, Lighthouse said:

To me that just says he isn't that great. Like when people said Shane Long was good running around alongside Danny Ings and 'his job wasn't to score goals'.

What that he can’t play as a holding midfielder? If you played Bernado Silva has a holding midfielder he wouldn’t be very good either that doesn’t mean he isn’t a good player. He’s decent enough in the championship as a sort of advanced midfielder but clearly not and never going to be a premier league player. Pretty weird to say someone isn’t very good because they can’t do a good job in a different position 

Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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1 hour ago, SW5 SAINT said:

I wouldn't be surprised to see Leeds appoint Dyche or Cooper…..

No chance, they've got lots of money to spend and they'll bring in someone significantly better than them.

Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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27 minutes ago, Turkish said:

What that he can’t play as a holding midfielder? If you played Bernado Silva has a holding midfielder he wouldn’t be very good either that doesn’t mean he isn’t a good player. He’s decent enough in the championship as a sort of advanced midfielder but clearly not and never going to be a premier league player. Pretty weird to say someone isn’t very good because they can’t do a good job in a different position 

No that he can’t play in a pair effectively in any sort of capacity. If you can only effectively play in a three and need two other players to cover your inadequacies, you probably aren’t that great.

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Turkish

Turkish

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2 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

No that he can’t play in a pair effectively in any sort of capacity. If you can only effectively play in a three and need two other players to cover your inadequacies, you probably aren’t that great.

Surely that’s the whole point of having a team of 11, they all do different stuff well.  Rodri is a defensive midfielder, can’t be that great if he needs two centre backs behind him, Messi is an attacking midfielder but can’t be that great if he needs strikers and defensive players around him to make up for his inadequacies on that basis 

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Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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1 minute ago, Turkish said:

Surely that’s the whole point of having a team of 11, they all do different stuff well.  Rodri is a defensive midfielder, can’t be that great if he needs two centre backs behind him, Messi is an attacking midfielder but can’t be that great if he needs strikers and defensive players around him to make up for his inadequacies on that basis 

That makes no sense, you’re comparing this to other players in different positions. Saying Rodri needs two CBs behind him is completely different to saying for eg. "Nathan Wood can’t play in a CB pairing, he’s much better in a there with Vidic and Stam."

Putting it simply, if you think he’s decent enough in an advanced position, would you be happy with just him and Downes in CM next year?

Turkish

Turkish

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13 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

That makes no sense, you’re comparing this to other players in different positions. Saying Rodri needs two CBs behind him is completely different to saying for eg. "Nathan Wood can’t play in a CB pairing, he’s much better in a there with Vidic and Stam."

Putting it simply, if you think he’s decent enough in an advanced position, would you be happy with just him and Downes in CM next year?

You wouldn’t set up like that, it’s pretty obvious. Midfield would be wide open that’d be the case whoever was playing in the advanced role. Just because someone is a midfielder doesn’t mean they all do the same job. There are different types of midfielders you know. Otherwise Rodri wouldn’t need Kevin De Byrne 
 

I don’t think Smallbones that great but to say he’s not that good because if he played you’d need two defensive midfielders to make up for him is nonsense.

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Willo of Whiteley

Willo of Whiteley

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Leeds ditching Farke is bold to say the least.

Leicester I think will end up with Russell Martin, I only see RM going either there or Norwich.

Lampard I’m sure will stay at Coventry.

Sean Dyche will be the banker for taking over at Burnley mid-November to replace bottom place Scott Parker.

Steve Cooper will be on hold for a Premier League job I’m sure.

Rohl will come here.

Poch will be back at Spurs.

Thanks all 😇😅

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Saint86

Saint86

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I wonder if we'd go totally left field and check out Dave Challinor at Stockport... Rasmus and co are always going on about untapped potential... Challinor has managed for 14 years across 6 divisions and he's never finished lower than playoffs, so there must be something there and he seems destined to get to the championship sooner rather than later. He's taken Stockport from 9th in the national league to the verge of the championship in 4 seasons in that time... Look how much money Wrexham have spent to do similar...

I'd say he's got at least got a comparable pedigree to McKenna had before Ipswich's championship promotion season (especially given their league 1 bankrolling).

 

 

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Would be a ludicrously ballsy appointment for sports republic and a hell of a gamble for saints generally... But I reckon he's one to watch for the next few years to see where he gets to. Also, from a Saints / SR perspective, he's already had some successes and bettered selles this season in league 1, so that probably rules him out of being "unrealised potential" 😆

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Sheaf Saint

Sheaf Saint

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5 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

I wonder if we'd go totally left field and check out Dave Challinor at Stockport... Rasmus and co are always going on about untapped potential... Challinor has managed for 14 years across 6 divisions and he's never finished lower than playoffs, so there must be something there and he seems destined to get to the championship sooner rather than later. He's taken Stockport from 9th in the national league to the verge of the championship in 4 seasons in that time... Look how much money Wrexham have spent to do similar...

I'd say he's got at least got a comparable pedigree to McKenna had before Ipswich's championship promotion season (especially given their league 1 bankrolling).

 

 

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My nephew was on loan there this season until he got injured, and he's full of praise for Challinor. Not a bad shout, but he might well want to stay there if they get promoted and see how far he can take them though.

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CB Fry

CB Fry

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8 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

I wonder if we'd go totally left field and check out Dave Challinor at Stockport... Rasmus and co are always going on about untapped potential... Challinor has managed for 14 years across 6 divisions and he's never finished lower than playoffs, so there must be something there and he seems destined to get to the championship sooner rather than later. He's taken Stockport from 9th in the national league to the verge of the championship in 4 seasons in that time... Look how much money Wrexham have spent to do similar...

I'd say he's got at least got a comparable pedigree to McKenna had before Ipswich's championship promotion season (especially given their league 1 bankrolling).

 

 

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Would be a ludicrously ballsy appointment for sports republic and a hell of a gamble for saints generally... But I reckon he's one to watch for the next few years to see where he gets to. Also, from a Saints / SR perspective, he's already had some successes and bettered selles this season in league 1, so that probably rules him out of being "unrealised potential" 😆

Unlikely. Steve Cotterill had similar achievements at lower levels, there are others that have done great stuff lower down but they don't then move up at bigger clubs. Hello Nathan Jones. I don't think these are risks we should be taking.

However, Dave Challinor used to have the longest long throw in Britain (pre-dating Rory Delap) so there is that.

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Midfield_General

Midfield_General

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Sounds like De Zerbi is about to become available following a monumental fall-out with his entire squad at Marseille. 

He'd obviously be aiming way higher than us, but could see Bournemouth going for him if Iraola goes, or Leeds if they're looking for an upgrade on Farke. 

Saint86

Saint86

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2 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

My nephew was on loan there this season until he got injured, and he's full of praise for Challinor. Not a bad shout, but he might well want to stay there if they get promoted and see how far he can take them though.

If he gets them promoted this season I think a lot more clubs will be looking at him. Would be a very respectable one club run in football manager, let alone the real world.

leesaint88

leesaint88

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4 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

My nephew was on loan there this season until he got injured, and he's full of praise for Challinor. Not a bad shout, but he might well want to stay there if they get promoted and see how far he can take them though.

Is your nephew Onyango? If so he was pretty impressive when I saw him earlier in the season! 

Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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10 minutes ago, ApprenticeBillionaire said:

Gary O'Neil at 5/2.

If SportsRepublic appoint him then it would confirm to me they don't understand us as a club.

He's a good manager but fuck off. 

He's not a good manager FWIW.

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Sheaf Saint

Sheaf Saint

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43 minutes ago, leesaint88 said:

Is your nephew Onyango? If so he was pretty impressive when I saw him earlier in the season! 

Yep, that's him. He was really starting to impress when he got a bad hamstring injury.

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Turkish

Turkish

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9 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Yep, that's him. He was really starting to impress when he got a bad hamstring injury.

Is he the one that's at Everton? Fuck me he's big lad 😂

My sons mate has just got into Evertons academy, 2 hour minimum each way drive 3 times a week! His twin brother is in Bradfords academy, now that's committed parents!

Sheaf Saint

Sheaf Saint

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2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Is he the one that's at Everton? Fuck me he's big lad 😂

My sons mate has just got into Evertons academy, 2 hour minimum each way drive 3 times a week! His twin brother is in Bradfords academy, now that's committed parents!

Yep, he's 6 foot 5!

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Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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1 hour ago, ApprenticeBillionaire said:

He's better than the last 3 we've had here ffs.

We're not quite the world beaters you think we are.

I'm not sure he is - he had a much better Wolves team at a similar level to us under RM - and his teams play fucking awful football.

Convict Colony

Convict Colony

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3 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Yep, that's him. He was really starting to impress when he got a bad hamstring injury.

This is a good reminder I am sure one of our fellow members is uncle to Jarrod Branthewaite at Everton or am I misremembering as I could sworn he mentioned he was on loan at psv.

Is anyone related to a better footballer than that ?

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Sheaf Saint

Sheaf Saint

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24 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

This is a good reminder I am sure one of our fellow members is uncle to Jarrod Branthewaite at Everton or am I misremembering as I could sworn he mentioned he was on loan at psv.

Don't think so. Tyler was in the same academy team at Everton as JB, so maybe that's where the confusion has arisen. 

Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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57 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

This is a good reminder I am sure one of our fellow members is uncle to Jarrod Branthewaite at Everton or am I misremembering as I could sworn he mentioned he was on loan at psv.

Is anyone related to a better footballer than that ?

Not much of an anecdote but I am apparently not too far related from John Sydenham.

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woodsaint1

woodsaint1

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11 hours ago, Saint86 said:

I wonder if we'd go totally left field and check out Dave Challinor at Stockport... Rasmus and co are always going on about untapped potential... Challinor has managed for 14 years across 6 divisions and he's never finished lower than playoffs, so there must be something there and he seems destined to get to the championship sooner rather than later. He's taken Stockport from 9th in the national league to the verge of the championship in 4 seasons in that time... Look how much money Wrexham have spent to do similar...

I'd say he's got at least got a comparable pedigree to McKenna had before Ipswich's championship promotion season (especially given their league 1 bankrolling).

 

 

Screenshot_20250424_110122_com_android_chrome_ChromeTabbedActivity.jpg

 

Would be a ludicrously ballsy appointment for sports republic and a hell of a gamble for saints generally... But I reckon he's one to watch for the next few years to see where he gets to. Also, from a Saints / SR perspective, he's already had some successes and bettered selles this season in league 1, so that probably rules him out of being "unrealised potential" 😆

Absolutely not!!!

One of the names I still remember from the 4-3 FA Cup defeat against Tranmere in 2001. Still hurts 😂

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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14 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

I'm not sure he is - he had a much better Wolves team at a similar level to us under RM - and his teams play fucking awful football.

And regardless tainted with ammonia.

SR have done many stupid things but even they can read about how Redknapp panned out, and what a hard time Crouch had initially. 

Saint Fan CaM

Saint Fan CaM

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11 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Who the fk is Will Still? It'll be Rohl.

 

There’s a masterclass video of Still’s coaching for the game against PSV where he basically came away with a 0-0 draw against a much superior team. The key was a high press and playing out from the back with risk strategy employed. Sounds exactly the type of manager SR would plumb for. Whether he would come to us is highly questionable - he is on a fast upward trajectory if the hype is to be believed.

gecko

gecko

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19 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

There’s a masterclass video of Still’s coaching for the game against PSV where he basically came away with a 0-0 draw against a much superior team. The key was a high press and playing out from the back with risk strategy employed. Sounds exactly the type of manager SR would plumb for. Whether he would come to us is highly questionable - he is on a fast upward trajectory if the hype is to be believed.

Guessing you mean Reims vs PSG? who are much superior to PSV, and makes the achievement that much more impressive.

I've definitely enjoyed watching that, and the one from Sky the other night. He seems to be a pretty clever chap, very willing to adapt his team's shape to the opposition. He is obviously keen to press as well, so appears to tick a lot of Spors' boxes for now.

My concern is that I've also seen Dyche do one (or two) of these masterclass vids. Don't get me wrong, I actually think he's a competent Champ/Prem level manager, but Dyche isn't the guy that anyone really hails as a genius manager, but he comes across incredibly well in these videos. So I can't help thinking, therefore, that most top level managers go into this level of detail in training anyway (our last few notwithstanding) - we as fans just don't tend to see them talking like this all that regularly.

So whilst I think Will Still might do a job for us, I'm not necessarily going to give these videos a huge amount of weight. I think I could get a little excited if he were appointed, but I believe there are other names in the hat still of equal/better calibre.

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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I'm more convinced by achievement over hype. I'd prefer accomplishments in places we want to be, rather than videos of giving a bloody nose.

Lots of managers are hyped, right up until their results falter, and then it's the next along the media conveyor belt. Nathan and Russ were both like that.

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CB Fry

CB Fry

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Would be amazed if Will Still comes to the Championship now. Whoever Spurs poach from he’d be in the frame for a job like that - Palace, Fulham or (I feel a bit sick) Bournemouth. Or Leeds if they do the Farke thing. 

UpweySaint

UpweySaint

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3 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

I'm more convinced by achievement over hype. I'd prefer accomplishments in places we want to be, rather than videos of giving a bloody nose.

Lots of managers are hyped, right up until their results falter, and then it's the next along the media conveyor belt. Nathan and Russ were both like that.

To be fair Still has a pretty good record of progressing clubs to go along with the hype.

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