Viking Saint Posted April 12 Posted April 12 https://saintsmarching.com/southampton-legend-makes-eyebrow-raising-claim-about-not-wanting-danny-rohl
trousers Posted April 12 Posted April 12 I'd be happy with Cooper but he doesn't match the type of manager that Spors is on record as wanting, does he? Spors wants to play a "very high intensity" style of football... Cooper's approach is more conservative than that, I think?
Turkish Posted April 12 Posted April 12 On 12/04/2025 at 21:32, trousers said: I'd be happy with Cooper but he doesn't match the type of manager that Spors is on record as wanting, does he? Spors wants to play a "very high intensity" style of football... Cooper's approach is more conservative than that, I think? Expand He’s not the hipsters choice by any means
Rohl With It Posted April 12 Posted April 12 On 12/04/2025 at 17:55, Lee On Solent Saint said: I see everyone's saviour for our club had a disappointing result at home to Oxford today. Expand Dismal today again at Hillsborough. No home win since 1st Jan. Will drop Danny off at your place tomorrow. 4
Mboto Gorge Posted April 13 Posted April 13 On 12/04/2025 at 23:36, Rohl With It said: Dismal today again at Hillsborough. No home win since 1st Jan. Will drop Danny off at your place tomorrow. Expand Gotta love the “he’s going regardless so let’s pretend we don’t want him anymore” stance. Dont worry our fans do it too but surely you’re happy with how he’s done over the season, no? You’d have taken mid table this season surely bearing in the mind the mess he inherited last season?
Rohl With It Posted April 13 Posted April 13 On 13/04/2025 at 00:08, Mboto Gorge said: Gotta love the “he’s going regardless so let’s pretend we don’t want him anymore” stance. Dont worry our fans do it too but surely you’re happy with how he’s done over the season, no? You’d have taken mid table this season surely bearing in the mind the mess he inherited last season? Expand Part of the coping mechanism 4
ApprenticeBillionaire Posted April 13 Posted April 13 On 12/04/2025 at 21:32, trousers said: I'd be happy with Cooper but he doesn't match the type of manager that Spors is on record as wanting, does he? Spors wants to play a "very high intensity" style of football... Cooper's approach is more conservative than that, I think? Expand We've been chasing that type of manager since Koeman. And Koeman outright publicly said we need to spend and we have never been willing to spend money on the calibre of players to play THAT style of football. Unless you've got a Paul Mitchell type knocking around the club and that ship has long sailed and never returned to port.
Matthew Le God Posted April 13 Posted April 13 (edited) On 12/04/2025 at 21:32, trousers said: Spors wants to play a "very high intensity" style of football. Expand On 13/04/2025 at 09:23, ApprenticeBillionaire said: 1) We've been chasing that type of manager since Koeman. 2) And Koeman outright publicly said we need to spend and we have never been willing to spend money on the calibre of players to play THAT style of football. 3) Unless you've got a Paul Mitchell type knocking around the club and that ship has long sailed and never returned to port. Expand 1) We played that style under Hasenhüttl and at for some spells it worked, and worked well. The 2020 calender year being the most effective period. 2) We have spent a lot. Last two Premier League seasons we've spent £260m+ on transfers/loan fees. That is a huge amount of money. But it was largely poorly spent. 3) Let's wait and see if Johannes Spors is that man! Edited April 13 by Matthew Le God 2
Kermitzasaint Posted April 14 Posted April 14 I don't understand the obsession with Rohl, just another mediocre Championship coach who can't set up a defence. We need someone who can coach successfully at a higher level. 5
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted April 14 Posted April 14 Just reading some of the SWFC forum pages. A lot of fans feel that Rohl is overrated and want him gone. 1
badgerx16 Posted April 14 Posted April 14 On 14/04/2025 at 03:10, Kermitzasaint said: I don't understand the obsession with Rohl, just another mediocre Championship coach who can't set up a defence. We need someone who can coach successfully at a higher level. Expand And who is actually willing to come to St Mary's.
BarberSaint Posted April 14 Posted April 14 On 14/04/2025 at 07:32, ally_uk said: Rafael Benítez what's he up to? Expand Waiting ....
Lighthouse Posted April 14 Posted April 14 On 14/04/2025 at 03:10, Kermitzasaint said: I don't understand the obsession with Rohl, just another mediocre Championship coach who can't set up a defence. We need someone who can coach successfully at a higher level. Expand There isn’t one. He has clearly been mooted as a likely candidate and is therefore being discussed quite a lot but nobody is ‘obsessed’ with him. 1
Dman Posted April 14 Posted April 14 On 12/04/2025 at 23:36, Rohl With It said: Dismal today again at Hillsborough. No home win since 1st Jan. Will drop Danny off at your place tomorrow. Expand If you think things are bad now, please do re-visit and give us your thoughts next season. 1
Rohl With It Posted April 14 Posted April 14 On 14/04/2025 at 07:08, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said: Just reading some of the SWFC forum pages. A lot of fans feel that Rohl is overrated and want him gone. Expand Our home form has been awful and style of play very poor of late but as I put above think the fans critisism is likely to be a coping mechanism at the high possibilty of him leaving. The team and Danny do seem to have downed tools a little and no surprise with our Ownership shenanigans culminating in late wages payment but is still a little disappointing. It could be that Rohl has got the very top limit out of this Squad who were overachieving and now seeing the drop off. I am sure 99% of the fan base are desperate for Danny to stay but appreciate too much has happened with the Chairman for this to happen. 1
Dman Posted April 14 Posted April 14 On 09/04/2025 at 12:41, Rohl With It said: All the above is correct re Danny Rohl. What I would add for a bit a background for you guys on the South Coast is regarding his backroom team which is very experienced. There is Henrik Pederson, ex Red Bull guy and then subsequently Manager in his own right who left being a Manager in Denmark to join Rohl, along with Chris Powell who is vastly experienced. Rumours in Sheffield are that neither want to leave and could quite possibly be Wednesdays new Management team. Pederson is rumoured to be the tactics guy and Powell is just a breath of fresh air. Not bringing these two with him may dilute Danny's talents. There is also Sascha Lense who is team Psychologist who I believe DR has worked with previously. He is also Timo Werners Father in Law. Expand I can't see that being the case. Who on earth would take the role with the squad you have and the nutcase you have in charge..? Not saying they'd follow DR, but you'd have to be desperate and/or stupid to take the plunge at Sheff Weds right now. Although I suppose you could say DR took that plunge and its worked out alright for him.
Dusic Posted April 14 Posted April 14 Paul Warhurst is an interesting name to throw into the proverbial ring.
Turkish Posted April 14 Posted April 14 On 14/04/2025 at 11:25, Dusic said: Paul Warhurst is an interesting name to throw into the proverbial ring. Expand Tony Cascarino is one too
SNSUN Posted April 14 Posted April 14 Slavisa Jokanovic. Fits perfectly, Serbian, Championship promotions to his name, currently unemployed and... that's all I know about him. 😁
SteveO1985 Posted April 14 Posted April 14 Anyone mentioned Fabregas - doing very well at Como it seems. 1
SWLondon Saint Posted April 14 Posted April 14 Been taking a break from all things football the last couple of months, but honestly, why do people think that a Championship side - which we will be - should be expecting to hire someone who can coach successfully at a higher level? If they can, know they can, and are acknowledged as so, they'll be waiting for their next go on the Premier League roundabout like Nuno, Moyes and Potter were. It's like people thinking you can get stronger spending a few years in the Championship when the opposite is true. The nature of being in a lower league is you get lower level or unproven talent. The goal is to get the unproven talent that CAN make the step up. 5
leesaint88 Posted April 14 Posted April 14 (edited) On 14/04/2025 at 11:51, SWLondon Saint said: Been taking a break from all things football the last couple of months, but honestly, why do people think that a Championship side - which we will be - should be expecting to hire someone who can coach successfully at a higher level? If they can, know they can, and are acknowledged as so, they'll be waiting for their next go on the Premier League roundabout like Nuno, Moyes and Potter were. It's like people thinking you can get stronger spending a few years in the Championship when the opposite is true. The nature of being in a lower league is you get lower level or unproven talent. The goal is to get the unproven talent that CAN make the step up. Expand Nailed it. It was cringeworthy seeing the posts of 'Potter' & 'Moyes' after Martin left, which were often followed up by bemoaning SR for going for the 'cheap option'. As mentioned we're not going to be able to attract anyone of huge premier league experience and certainly not anyone of any real note, which means we'll get the dregs or someone who is relatively unproven. Rohl seems to have some potential but we'll see what happens if as reported Leipzig come in for him, Still is rising up the betting and again a young coach who could end up being good in the long run. After that, it's nobody of real note and one could argue Rusk & Lallana would be a better pairing than someone like Gerrard coming in.. Edited April 14 by leesaint88 2
hypochondriac Posted April 14 Posted April 14 On 14/04/2025 at 11:51, SWLondon Saint said: Been taking a break from all things football the last couple of months, but honestly, why do people think that a Championship side - which we will be - should be expecting to hire someone who can coach successfully at a higher level? If they can, know they can, and are acknowledged as so, they'll be waiting for their next go on the Premier League roundabout like Nuno, Moyes and Potter were. It's like people thinking you can get stronger spending a few years in the Championship when the opposite is true. The nature of being in a lower league is you get lower level or unproven talent. The goal is to get the unproven talent that CAN make the step up. Expand Maybe but then you look at the likes of Benitez who had no problem taking a step down. 1
leesaint88 Posted April 14 Posted April 14 On 14/04/2025 at 12:31, hypochondriac said: Maybe but then you look at the likes of Benitez who had no problem taking a step down. Expand Unique case, he was taking a huge salary from Newcastle and knew they'd return instantly with the team they had.
SaintLondon Posted April 14 Posted April 14 On 14/04/2025 at 12:31, hypochondriac said: Maybe but then you look at the likes of Benitez who had no problem taking a step down. Expand It’s a lot easier to step down a level when you’ve had time in the role and understand the situation from the inside. When Benitez came in, he did a solid job, Newcastle went down with 37 points, just two from safety. If it weren’t for Sunderland going on an incredible run, they would’ve stayed up. By contrast, we’re sitting on 10 points and have been relegated twice in two years. There’s been a revolving door of managers and a catalogue of poor decisions at board level from managerial appointments to recruitment. Benitez had the benefit of seeing the structure, the squad, and the potential before deciding to stay. Right now, it’s hard to see anyone willingly walking into the unknown here and risking their reputation. That’s why it’ll likely be an unknown foreign coach, or someone like Rohl or Cooper, with Cooper, someone with just enough Premier League experience to take the gamble. 3
Thereisonlyonemickychannon Posted April 14 Posted April 14 Ruben selles if he keeps Hull up.... Ducking under the table from the flak I will get for this one! 1
Holmes_and_Watson Posted April 14 Posted April 14 On 14/04/2025 at 03:10, Kermitzasaint said: I don't understand the obsession with Rohl, just another mediocre Championship coach who can't set up a defence. We need someone who can coach successfully at a higher level. Expand On 14/04/2025 at 07:14, badgerx16 said: And who is actually willing to come to St Mary's. Expand I'd not mind us starting from a list of managers with proven experience of where we'd like to be, and work out way down. As opposed from picking yet another "gem" from the lower leagues. 1
Galway saint Posted April 14 Posted April 14 We could do a lot worse than Steve Ogrizovic - my only reservation being, would he know the 'southampton way' ?
West end Saints Posted April 14 Posted April 14 On 14/04/2025 at 21:42, Holmes_and_Watson said: I'd not mind us starting from a list of managers with proven experience of where we'd like to be, and work out way down. As opposed from picking yet another "gem" from the lower leagues. Expand Your method may work is way down to same options. I'm not feeling bigger name / more proven managers are likely to come here
Holmes_and_Watson Posted April 14 Posted April 14 On 14/04/2025 at 22:30, West end Saints said: Your method may work is way down to same options. I'm not feeling bigger name / more proven managers are likely to come here Expand Absolutely. But I'd prefer us starting with people who've been where we want to be.
gurru991 Posted April 14 Posted April 14 On 14/04/2025 at 03:10, Kermitzasaint said: I don't understand the obsession with Rohl, just another mediocre Championship coach who can't set up a defence. We need someone who can coach successfully at a higher level. Expand The problem being that Southampton are not at a higher level so someone who has proven himself at a higher level isn't joining a Championship side. 1
manji Posted April 14 Posted April 14 Like Spors the new manager will be well aware of what he is up against but will also be aware that part of his job is to stabilise us in the PL step back and look at it . I reckon that would be a great opportunity . It’s sco,plete nonsense we are a basket case, laughing stock whatever . Weve been in far worse situations than this. yes a crappy season . I’m fairly other clubs have had crappy seasons in the PL . The fans showed what a potential we have. Good season in the championship Autos will be expected as will early prep for stability in the PL. We might fuck up lnut why should we ?
Saint in Paradise Posted April 15 Posted April 15 On 14/04/2025 at 23:53, manji said: Like Spors the new manager will be well aware of what he is up against but will also be aware that part of his job is to stabilise us in the PL step back and look at it . I reckon that would be a great opportunity . It’s sco,plete nonsense we are a basket case, laughing stock whatever . Weve been in far worse situations than this. yes a crappy season . I’m fairly other clubs have had crappy seasons in the PL . The fans showed what a potential we have. Good season in the championship Autos will be expected as will early prep for stability in the PL. We might fuck up lnut why should we ? Expand Maybe because Leopards don't change their spots and SR, for whatever reasons, have not made many correct decisions? 1
CB Fry Posted April 15 Posted April 15 On 14/04/2025 at 23:53, manji said: Like Spors the new manager will be well aware of what he is up against but will also be aware that part of his job is to stabilise us in the PL step back and look at it . I reckon that would be a great opportunity . It’s sco,plete nonsense we are a basket case, laughing stock whatever . Weve been in far worse situations than this. yes a crappy season . I’m fairly other clubs have had crappy seasons in the PL . The fans showed what a potential we have. Good season in the championship Autos will be expected as will early prep for stability in the PL. We might fuck up lnut why should we ? Expand I think you might want to stop trying to play down the absolute clusterfuck that the SR regime have been. It's not going to work you trying to position this season as just "a crappy season" like lots of Premier League teams have. Trust us, we've had crappy seasons. This is different- we are heading to the end of April on 10 points. 10. Before SR turned up we'd had an unbroken decade in the top flight. They've turned us now, basically, into Norwich City. This was supposed to be "the greatest era in our history" according to some (you). Funny you have now altered your position to "well, it's been worse". Inspirational stuff. Let's hope we can scramble up again but right now it feels more likely we will be a future WBA/Stoke/Swansea than a Brentford or Forest. 2
AlexLaw76 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 On 14/04/2025 at 23:53, manji said: Like Spors the new manager will be well aware of what he is up against but will also be aware that part of his job is to stabilise us in the PL step back and look at it . I reckon that would be a great opportunity . It’s sco,plete nonsense we are a basket case, laughing stock whatever . Weve been in far worse situations than this. yes a crappy season . I’m fairly other clubs have had crappy seasons in the PL . The fans showed what a potential we have. Good season in the championship Autos will be expected as will early prep for stability in the PL. We might fuck up lnut why should we ? Expand your head has gone
Pamplemousse Posted April 15 Posted April 15 I do agree with manji. SR fucked up. They know it, we know it, everyone knows it. And they've already acted to fix it - Solak taking personal control, Spors coming in and overhauling recruitment, now we need a top class manager (for the Championship). I know this is shit but I am optimistic for next season. 5
tdmickey3 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 On 15/04/2025 at 07:10, Pamplemousse said: I do agree with manji. SR fucked up. They know it, we know it, everyone knows it. And they've already acted to fix it - Solak taking personal control, Spors coming in and overhauling recruitment, now we need a top class manager (for the Championship). I know this is shit but I am optimistic for next season. Expand With SR still involved, I am very far from optimistic that there will be an end to this utterly shameful shit show. I don't believe anybody is really optimistic at all, just hopeful and desperate for something better 1
CB Fry Posted April 15 Posted April 15 On 15/04/2025 at 07:10, Pamplemousse said: I do agree with manji. SR fucked up. They know it, we know it, everyone knows it. And they've already acted to fix it - Solak taking personal control, Spors coming in and overhauling recruitment, now we need a top class manager (for the Championship). I know this is shit but I am optimistic for next season. Expand You know they fucked up in 22/23 as well right? We can't just go "yeah we know we fucked up" over and over again. We have some decent fees and a decent financial position going into next season (definitely better than Leicester) but nothing taken for granted in what will be a tough Championship season. 2
Matthew Le God Posted April 15 Posted April 15 On 14/04/2025 at 23:53, manji said: Like Spors the new manager will be well aware of what he is up against but will also be aware that part of his job is to stabilise us in the PL step back and look at it . I reckon that would be a great opportunity . It’s sco,plete nonsense we are a basket case, laughing stock whatever . Weve been in far worse situations than this. yes a crappy season . I’m fairly other clubs have had crappy seasons in the PL . The fans showed what a potential we have. Good season in the championship Autos will be expected as will early prep for stability in the PL. We might fuck up lnut why should we ? Expand On 15/04/2025 at 02:09, Saint in Paradise said: Maybe because Leopards don't change their spots and SR, for whatever reasons, have not made many correct decisions? Expand On 15/04/2025 at 06:30, CB Fry said: I think you might want to stop trying to play down the absolute clusterfuck that the SR regime have been. It's not going to work you trying to position this season as just "a crappy season" like lots of Premier League teams have. Trust us, we've had crappy seasons. This is different- we are heading to the end of April on 10 points. 10. Before SR turned up we'd had an unbroken decade in the top flight. They've turned us now, basically, into Norwich City. This was supposed to be "the greatest era in our history" according to some (you). Funny you have now altered your position to "well, it's been worse". Inspirational stuff. Let's hope we can scramble up again but right now it feels more likely we will be a future WBA/Stoke/Swansea than a Brentford or Forest. Expand On 15/04/2025 at 06:36, AlexLaw76 said: your head has gone Expand On 15/04/2025 at 07:19, tdmickey3 said: With SR still involved, I am very far from optimistic that there will be an end to this utterly shameful shit show. I don't believe anybody is really optimistic at all, just hopeful and desperate for something better Expand On 15/04/2025 at 07:50, CB Fry said: You know they fucked up in 22/23 as well right? We can't just go "yeah we know we fucked up" over and over again. We have some decent fees and a decent financial position going into next season (definitely better than Leicester) but nothing taken for granted in what will be a tough Championship season. Expand What happened in previous seasons isn't relevant. Next season will be based on who Johannes Spors appoints as manager and what he does on player recruitment. The Sport Republic previous fuck ups are irrelevant as Johannes Spors had nothing to do with them. So judging him on the mistakes of others is illogical. 1
Pwoite Posted April 15 Posted April 15 On 15/04/2025 at 07:10, Pamplemousse said: I do agree with manji. SR fucked up. They know it, we know it, everyone knows it. And they've already acted to fix it - Solak taking personal control, Spors coming in and overhauling recruitment, now we need a top class manager (for the Championship). I know this is shit but I am optimistic for next season. Expand Are we now seeing SR 2.0? Kraft out, Ankersen out, Solak in, Spors in. Potentially a more clearly designed recruitment package of manager and players based on year 1, stabilisation, regeneration and promotion, then year 2, consolidation and further stabilisation. That means recruiting a manager to get us promoted and then reviewing, next summer, whether he is the man for the EPL. Similarly, bringing in half a dozen players, three designed to help the promotion push, but no more, and three that contribute next season and the one after. A mix of youth and experience, grit and flair, leadership and control. it needs to be a two year plan, with options at every stage, every transfer window, and to have the courage to remove and replace when necessary. 1
CB Fry Posted April 15 Posted April 15 On 15/04/2025 at 07:56, Matthew Le God said: What happened in previous seasons isn't relevant. Next season will be based on who Johannes Spors appoints as manager and what he does on player recruitment. The Sport Republic previous fuck ups are irrelevant as Johannes Spors had nothing to do with them. So judging him on the mistakes of others is illogical. Expand I think you might need to stop treating this Spors guy as a bloody messiah when he's done nothing for us yet. This is the Sport Republic era, who have fucked up twice already so it is reasonable to assume they can do so again. 4 1
tdmickey3 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 On 15/04/2025 at 07:56, Matthew Le God said: What happened in previous seasons isn't relevant. Next season will be based on who Johannes Spors appoints as manager and what he does on player recruitment. The Sport Republic previous fuck ups are irrelevant as Johannes Spors had nothing to do with them. So judging him on the mistakes of others is illogical. Expand We have heard it all before and it was shite, so I will wait till I see the improvement, we have a long, long way to go... 2
Matthew Le God Posted April 15 Posted April 15 On 15/04/2025 at 08:10, CB Fry said: 1) I think you might need to stop treating this Spors guy as a bloody messiah when he's done nothing for us yet. 2) This is the Sport Republic era, who have fucked up twice already so it is reasonable to assume they can do so again. Expand 1) At no point have I done that! All I've done is say he isn't responsible for the mistakes of those before him and wait and see what he does. 2) Those that fucked up in the past are no longer making football decisions. So judging someone new on the actions of his predecessors is illogical. That is the point! 1
Matthew Le God Posted April 15 Posted April 15 On 15/04/2025 at 08:14, tdmickey3 said: We have heard it all before and it was shite, so I will wait till I see the improvement, we have a long, long way to go... Expand That was my entire point! Don't judge someone on the actions of others! Remain neutral until they fuck up or are successful (or mediocre). 3
tdmickey3 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 On 15/04/2025 at 08:19, Matthew Le God said: That was my entire point! Don't judge someone on the actions of others! Remain neutral until they fuck up or are successful (or mediocre). Expand So, because we have been given a pile of steaming shit thrown in our faces regularly, we are now supposed to keep our head up in the hope it will be champagne.. Expect the worst and hope for the best for me. According to you we now have to become believers again because of one appointment, you crack on 2
Matthew Le God Posted April 15 Posted April 15 On 15/04/2025 at 08:26, tdmickey3 said: So, because we have been given a pile of steaming shit thrown in our faces regularly, we are now supposed to keep our head up in the hope it will be champagne.. Expect the worst and hope for the best for me. According to you we now have to become believers again because of one appointment, you crack on Expand Strawman fallacy I didn't say that at all 1
Turkish Posted April 15 Posted April 15 On 15/04/2025 at 08:26, tdmickey3 said: So, because we have been given a pile of steaming shit thrown in our faces regularly, we are now supposed to keep our head up in the hope it will be champagne.. Expect the worst and hope for the best for me. According to you we now have to become believers again because of one appointment, you crack on Expand As Rasmus famously said when talking about managers he wants people who have failed, because if they've failed they might succeed next time. SR have failed over an over again, but they might succeed this time! If it aint broke, break it! 1
kjurwi Posted April 15 Posted April 15 I would love to se us appoint a manager that does the opposite to Russel. Build a fucking wall at the back and counter or hoof it long for a target man. Let the other team have the ball. Someone like the old ex Norwegian coach Egil "Drillo" Olsen. No one plays like that anymore. 1
saintant Posted April 15 Posted April 15 On 15/04/2025 at 07:56, Matthew Le God said: What happened in previous seasons isn't relevant. Next season will be based on who Johannes Spors appoints as manager and what he does on player recruitment. The Sport Republic previous fuck ups are irrelevant as Johannes Spors had nothing to do with them. So judging him on the mistakes of others is illogical. Expand Yes, Spors start with a clean sheet. However, I think many of us are nervous that Rasmus Ankersen will somehow still find a way to meddle. Don't bother quoting me changes in structure of SR because I am aware of them but I suspect the ego that is Ankersen will attempt to interfere wherever he can and that is an issue. 2
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