Who do we want next as Saints manager?

[Tommy]

Juric gone and relegation confirmed. Who are we wanting in the door next?

I want someone that is going to play high up the pitch, press with intensity and play forward quickly in transition.

 

[CSA96]

Danny Röhl, please

Edited 4 hours ago by CSA96

[franniesTache]

The dream team of Steve Wigley and Nathan Jones as director of football, with Ankerson himself doing all the scouting. That would definitely break things so is surely the only logical option

[leesaint88]

I'm still slightly unconvinced by Rohl, for me I wouldn't mind Cooper or even Rosenior.

[Tommy]

Id like a look at Kjetil Knutsen, was super impressed with how his team setup against Man United in Europe this season and watched a few more of the Glimt games in Europe. 
 

 

[tdmickey3]

Someone competent 

[S-Clarke]

The 'sensible' and seemingly most achievable/realistic appointment would be Rohl, as he's somewhat aligned with what we're trying to do (and our DoF). 

I know there are similar parallels from when we went for Martin, but I see Rohl's achievement as much, much greater. His Wednesday team were absolutley adrift when he came in, they had no chance, yet he kept them up with space to spare - and this season has even had them in the conversation for the playoffs, which is ridiculous given the level of players and lack of investment he's had.

He seemingly has the ability to extract every ounce out of a player and he has coaching pedigree of a much higher level than Martin had. So whilst there are parallels in terms of mid-table champ finishes, I think it's important to look at the context of both scenarios to appreciate that Rohl would actually be a really, really good shout.

This may all be nonsense if SR have another ''think outside the box'' moment though. I wouldn't bet against it.

Edited 4 hours ago by S-Clarke

[CSA96]

5 minutes ago, leesaint88 said:

I'm still slightly unconvinced by Rohl, for me I wouldn't mind Cooper or even Rosenior.

Ah yeah, Cooper would be good with me too. Not keen on Rosenior personally, too similar to Russ

[leesaint88]

Reading some of the Wednesday boards, it seems like Rohl made some gestures over the weekend to suggest he's off.....they even believe we've paid for his services already so that the players wage bill was finally squared away.

[Hatch]

Sir Gareth 

[Midfield_General]

Given the past connection to the club, his performance in the Championship with no money, the fact that he or his players haven't been paid and he wants out, and his existing positive relationship with our new sporting director via the Red Bull connection, I'd be amazed if it isn't Rohl. Absolutely amazed. 

[warsash saint]

We need a proven Premiership manager (i know a big ask) - appointing Rohl will put us in the same position as RM with a novice in the top league IF we get promoted!  So not convinced he is the answer.

Don't like Dyche but you cannot knock his achievements at Burnley

 

Edited 3 hours ago by warsash saint

[revolution saint]

Whoever it is better be good because we've probably got them until the next time we play Spurs.

[skintsaint]

Cooper all day from whats being banded about.

[petermcpete]

Cooper. History of getting clubs promoted and builds teams worth more than the sum of their parts - Leicester should have stuck with him and they might have had a chance to stay up.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

Steve Cooper, no question. Rohl wouldn't even be in the conversation had it not for being here previously. 

[skintsaint]

Rusk/Lallana dream team for now.

[revolution saint]

Fairly ambivalent about who the new manager is but I would like them to be more pragmatic than an ideologue.  Someone who looks at the best players available to them and finds a way to get the best out of them, someone who looks at the opposition and figures out the best way to beat them rather than being a slave to any particular style.  Long ball, short ball, possession, counter attacking - don't give a shit, just win.

I actually think the more important component next season will be what the squad looks like.  The manager has an impact but ultimately it'll be more about the quality of the players than the manager. 

[2Morrow]

I mean Rohl is being touted for the Leicester amd Leipzig job by his agent, and is the obvious championship manager currently operating above their level in the table.

Also it's Rohl 

[macca155]

Lallana is an interesting one. No question of pedigree and commitment. He was very vocal when I saw him play. I wouldn't be surprised to see him in a role somewhere.

Imagine if Rusk and Lallana turn a few wins in the next 7 games.

Could be interesting

[Saint Matty 76]

I'd rather take a punt on Rohl being something better than Cooper has proved himself to be.

Rosenior has performed himself out of consideration, so I don't think there's even any competition.

[beatlesaint]

4 minutes ago, macca155 said:

Lallana is an interesting one. No question of pedigree and commitment. He was very vocal when I saw him play. I wouldn't be surprised to see him in a role somewhere.

Imagine if Rusk and Lallana turn a few wins in the next 7 games.

Could be interesting

I think Lallana is nailed on for a coaching role with the U18's next season tbh. 

[HarvSFC]

Just suggesting that Nathan Jones also had a club, of a much smaller size than Sheffield Wednesday punching well above their weight in the Championship with little resources... I think we've been burned twice by appointing managers who haven't achieved anything more than a mid-table finish in the Championship and am a little apprehensive to go for a third time. As previously stated Rosenior is too similar to Martin, also.

Sheffield United had a horrific season, but they've recovered as they have a promotion expert in Wilder managing them. It's clear what their transfer policy has been also, add Championship experience with Kieffer Moore, Sam McCallum, Callum O'Hare, Tyrese Campbell, Harry Souttar, BBD, Hamza Choudhury, Harry Clarke, Rob Holding, Tom Cannon and Michael Cooper. They also managed to keep Hamer. We need a similar approach this summer.

With all that said, I just want a manager who puts in the work of what the job requires. A manager who in the week, assesses the opposition and sets the team up on Saturday to exploit the weaknesses of the opposition in the best way possible. Rather than the lazy approach of a manager who thinks he's cracked football, sets his team up every week to play the same way, when it's super inconsistent and doesn't always get the best out of the situation, and even then, doesn't adapt those tactics in game.

This ultra possession football isn't the way. We played great football under Adkins, it certainly wasn't hoofball and we went into each game confident of getting a result.

[wild-saint]

46 minutes ago, Tommy said:

Juric gone and relegation confirmed. Who are we wanting in the door next?

I want someone that is going to play high up the pitch, press with intensity and play forward quickly in transition.

 

im happy with anyone that demands (and gets) players who are good enough to play at the level we are at.

[Maggie May]

42 minutes ago, leesaint88 said:

I'm still slightly unconvinced by Rohl, for me I wouldn't mind Cooper or even Rosenior.

Rosenior was my tip for the very top a couple of seasons ago. That ship has now sailed for us, unfortunately. He could secure Champions League football for Strasbourg if they keep up their form.

[saintant]

Whoever we appoint will be unable to do a job unless we finally sign some big, strong athletic players who don't get knocked over by a puff of breeze. The current squad is packed full of weaklings of mind and body. Let's build a powerful blood and thunder side that opponents will not take lightly.

[die Mannyschaft]

Any manager who has experience with the long ball, direct ball into box, running forward. Any manager who starts a goal kick with 4 players in box and has keeper pas to them should not be employed.  

[SNSUN]

Pochettino said recently he'd love to come back to England and manage his former club that he has great affiliation for and...

 

...oh wait, thats Spurs. Hey ho.

I've said Dyche for the last two Prem campaigns after managers have been sacked (Ralph and Russ) as he can organise a defence and grind results out, but would I want him next season? Over Cooper probably not. But I still think it will be Rohl irrespective of whether that's the right option or not. 

One thing is for sure, we need a hell of a rebuild and a manager who has influence enough to do that. 

[for_heaven's_Saint]

Someone with substance over style who can adapt his style to the players rather than the other way around. 

[bangkoksaint]

Any chance of a poll with the choices?

[Baird of the land]

I'm very nervous about Rohl. Is he just the next charlatan fad like Martin?

I wouldn't be opposed to Cooper. Kind of dull but done repeatedly well in the championship. Leicester job was always a bit of a hiding to nothing.

 

 

[Ken Tone]

Fwd up with owners and managers who seem to think they've found a magic formula, and are determined to stick with it regardless of the evidence of results.

Football really isn't that complicated,  most players and managers really aren't that bright, and there really isn't any new way of playing that hasn't been tried before.

Just appoint someone who will pick players in their correct position and who will change things  when necessary rather than stick to a fixed idea.

 

[Pamplemousse]

Steve Cooper. Track record of working with young players, and knows how to get promoted and keep a team up. It's a no brainer.

[Dman]

1 hour ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Steve Cooper, no question. Rohl wouldn't even be in the conversation had it not for being here previously. 

Maybe not for you. He's done a brilliant job at Sheff Weds. 

Much more impressive than the Job Martin done with previous clubs. 

[swannymere]

Someone like Ian Branfoot to truly unite the fans.

[Dusic]

1 hour ago, S-Clarke said:

The 'sensible' and seemingly most achievable/realistic appointment would be Rohl, as he's somewhat aligned with what we're trying to do (and our DoF). 

I know there are similar parallels from when we went for Martin, but I see Rohl's achievement as much, much greater. His Wednesday team were absolutley adrift when he came in, they had no chance, yet he kept them up with space to spare - and this season has even had them in the conversation for the playoffs, which is ridiculous given the level of players and lack of investment he's had.

He seemingly has the ability to extract every ounce out of a player and he has coaching pedigree of a much higher level than Martin had. So whilst there are parallels in terms of mid-table champ finishes, I think it's important to look at the context of both scenarios to appreciate that Rohl would actually be a really, really good shout.

This may all be nonsense if SR have another ''think outside the box'' moment though. I wouldn't bet against it.

Russell Martin is by far the best appointment SR have made so far and achieved the goal he was given in his full season in charge.

At the time I said the mid table stuff was stupid because any job has to be viewed in context and he joined Swansea when their parachute payments ran out and showed he could coach them (and us) to play the way he wanted - something the likes of Jones and Juric both totally failed to do here. As much as he made mistakes this season our recruitment massively failed him and we were all on a hiding to nothing really. 

As you say, Rohl has done a good job in difficult circumstances and would seem a good option that majority of fans would get behind in part due to his history/hype here. In our situation I think fan and player buy-in are the keys. Martin got both spot on last summer and whoever joins will need to do the same. This is the most important aspect as we will have better players than most clubs anyway - it was clear Martin wouldn't be mid table again and neither would Rohl.

Personally not a fan of Cooper, find him extremely dull and think we a more personable man to try to motivate the whole club again.

I hope Spors is able to get who he wants, whether that costs £5m in compo or is free.

Edited 2 hours ago by Dusic

[SNSUN]

9 minutes ago, swannymere said:

Someone like Ian Branfoot to truly unite the fans.

I can think of a few managers that would unite the fan base in that way...

[Hodgey]

Rohl is the obvious choice and one I support. Ticks so many boxes, he isn’t proven like Cooper, but I feel he has the capacity to unite the players and fans quicker which is crucial. Also a big fan of getting managers pretty much universally liked by players and fans of current club.

Let’s not overthink this one.

[ally_uk]

Get Rafa in 

[Sir Ralph]

What happens if Rusk turns this team around before the end of the season - would you keep him next year? I think he installed some guts into the team in the 2 games he had in charge.

[revolution saint]

9 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

What happens if Rusk turns this team around before the end of the season - would you keep him next year? I think he installed some guts into the team in the 2 games he had in charge.

If Rusk turns this team around then he'd be playing Ramsdale as a lone striker.  That's just silly.

[skintsaint]

Just now, revolution saint said:

If Rusk turns this team around then he'd be playing Ramsdale as a lone striker.  That's just silly.

It ...might just work.

[Tom & Gerry]

Frank Lampard is being muted and I know his record isn't great, but he's the type that does well here. Like Ball, Hoddle and Keoman he would have the respect of the players as an ex top player. Like nearly all our best managers he's had failures at other clubs but I think he could do a good job here.

[saintant]

14 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

What happens if Rusk turns this team around before the end of the season - would you keep him next year? I think he installed some guts into the team in the 2 games he had in charge.

He'll  be wanted by Liverpool.

Edited 1 hour ago by saintant

[Pamplemousse]

Lampard would be a fine choice as well. And having worked with basket case owners such as at Everton, he'd fit in well here.

[Toussaint]

Current odds for next permanent Saints manager

Danny Rohl 4/7

Frank Lampard 9/1

Liam Rosenior 9/1

Steve Cooper 11/1

Kasper Hjulmand 12/1

Sean Dyche 14/1

Simon Rusk 16/1

David Wagner 16/1

Gary O'Neil 16/1

Gareth Southgate 20/1

Michael Carrick 20/1

Pep Lijnders 25/1

Julien Stephan 25/1

Russell Martin 40/1

Lee Carsley 40/1

[tdmickey3]

1 minute ago, Toussaint said:

Current odds for next permanent Saints manager

Danny Rohl 4/7

Frank Lampard 9/1

Liam Rosenior 9/1    Martin Clone, so nope

Steve Cooper 11/1

Kasper Hjulmand 12/1

Sean Dyche 14/1

Simon Rusk 16/1

David Wagner 16/1

Gary O'Neil 16/1

Gareth Southgate 20/1

Michael Carrick 20/1

Pep Lijnders 25/1

Julien Stephan 25/1

Russell Martin 40/1     Absolutely fucking not

Lee Carsley 40/1

 

[Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd]

In all honestly, I’m beyond caring. 
 

if we had a board with ambition and showed that they know what theyre doing then I’d be optimistic. However, I’m expecting another very average appointment that will no doubt include Adam Lallana as part of the set up. 
 

My money is on Danny Rohl. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

Wouldn’t mind Cooper,  at least he won’t get distracted by some fit model trying to pull  him. 
 

Don’t know too much about Rohl, so on the fence over him. 
 

Lampard, a no from me. If we’re going down that route would prefer Lallana. 
 

Dyche, yes, but that boat has sailed. 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Lord Duckhunter

[tdmickey3]

11 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

In all honestly, I’m beyond caring. 
 

if we had a board with ambition and showed that they know what theyre doing then I’d be optimistic. However, I’m expecting another very average appointment that will no doubt include Adam Lallana as part of the set up. 
 

My money is on Danny Rohl. 

Why come on here if you dont care?