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4 minutes ago, austsaint said:

Not normally a fan of re-signing players, but Valery at RB next season would be fine with me.   How old is he now, 26, 27.   Showed a lot at times when a Saint as a young player.

He seemed to have the talent but lacked concentration and focus.

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23 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

He's played right wing most of the season.

I was surprised by that.  He has started 14 games at LB, LWB, RB, RWB; 20 at RW and 3 at LW.  As a sub, he has replaced a midfielder 4 times and LB, LWB, LW and RB once each.  Admirable versatility.  I expect he’s glad he left us.  When I saw him play for us he looked slow and ponderous and out of place here but he must have developed pretty well to have started so many games and in so many positions, too, albeit in league 1 and the cup.

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11 hours ago, austsaint said:

Not normally a fan of re-signing players, but Valery at RB next season would be fine with me.   How old is he now, 26, 27.   Showed a lot at times when a Saint as a young player.

Another reasonable enough Championship player who looked out of his depth at PL level. We have dozens of those already, I’ve no idea why anyone would want to sign more. We have absolutely bucket loads of ‘squad players’, ‘options’ and ‘filler’, anyone we bring in needs to be of real quality, in order to a) get promoted and b) stay there.

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17 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Another reasonable enough Championship player who looked out of his depth at PL level. We have dozens of those already, I’ve no idea why anyone would want to sign more. We have absolutely bucket loads of ‘squad players’, ‘options’ and ‘filler’, anyone we bring in needs to be of real quality, in order to a) get promoted and b) stay there.

I don't think Valery would add anything to the squad either, but I would add that Liam Delap really didn't show anything at Hull last season that said how well he'd do in the Prem. You can't usually get guaranteed 'real quality' of prem ability in the Championship for obvious reasons so it's always gonna be a gamble of some kind...

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A few highly rated championship players went up to premier last season with very mixed results .

Summerville hardly a roaring success and was supposedly best player in division but we nulified him in play off final 

Armstrong no

Delap yes

Greaves ok

Clark meh

Smodzic meh

Can't think of many who tore it up and should stay there other than delap .

Rutter? 

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5 hours ago, chivvy said:

A few highly rated championship players went up to premier last season with very mixed results .

Summerville hardly a roaring success and was supposedly best player in division but we nulified him in play off final 

Armstrong no

Delap yes

Greaves ok

Clark meh

Smodzic meh

Can't think of many who tore it up and should stay there other than delap .

Rutter? 

Ipswich are going to comfortably win the championship next season. 

They have a brilliant squad for this level. 

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40 minutes ago, Dman said:

Ipswich are going to comfortably win the championship next season. 

They have a brilliant squad for this level. 

Rather depends on how many of that squad get a move to stay in the PL

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1 hour ago, Dman said:

Ipswich are going to comfortably win the championship next season. 

They have a brilliant squad for this level. 

They will lose Liam Delap and Leif Davis to premier league teams I would think - plus they have quite a few players on loan like Encisco, Godfrey,  Cajuste and Phillips who will nearly all go as well.   Luongo and Tzunabe are out of contract as well and will probably leave.  Burgess is as well but I think he will stay.  The squad that's left look a bit weak in central midfield but I would think they will be contenders for promotion once they spend a bit of money on replacements.

Unfortunately with Ipswich, Leicester and us going down and Birmingham and Wrexham coming up to the championship and clubs like Sunderland, Coventry and Middlesbrough it will be a tough league next season.

Leicester look like they could be in trouble due to their finances so maybe they will implode and count themselves out.  They will probably have to cash in on players like Hermansen,  Ndidi, Soumare, Faes and El Khannouss,  Plus Oedoaurd and Buonaatte are on loan and Vardy is out of contract.

We really need a good summer transfer window and a good manager if we are to be in the running next season though. 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Rebel said:

They will lose Liam Delap and Leif Davis to premier league teams I would think - plus they have quite a few players on loan like Encisco, Godfrey,  Cajuste and Phillips who will nearly all go as well.   Luongo and Tzunabe are out of contract as well and will probably leave.  Burgess is as well but I think he will stay.  The squad that's left look a bit weak in central midfield but I would think they will be contenders for promotion once they spend a bit of money on replacements.

Unfortunately with Ipswich, Leicester and us going down and Birmingham and Wrexham coming up to the championship and clubs like Sunderland, Coventry and Middlesbrough it will be a tough league next season.

Leicester look like they could be in trouble due to their finances so maybe they will implode and count themselves out.  They will probably have to cash in on players like Hermansen,  Ndidi, Soumare, Faes and El Khannouss,  Plus Oedoaurd and Buonaatte are on loan and Vardy is out of contract.

We really need a good summer transfer window and a good manager if we are to be in the running next season though. 

 

 

Yep if Leicester can hold on to Ndid who was the best midflieder in the league last season. What has happened to that winger who came on and destroyed us last season and at St Marys? He was quick and could finish?

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4 minutes ago, OldNick said:

Yep if Leicester can hold on to Ndid who was the best midflieder in the league last season. What has happened to that winger who came on and destroyed us last season and at St Marys? He was quick and could finish?

I think that was Fatawu, who was on loan from Sporting and they signed him permanently in the summer. He picked up a bad injury earlier in the season and has been out for quite a while now. 

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8 minutes ago, disconnect said:

I think that was Fatawu, who was on loan from Sporting and they signed him permanently in the summer. He picked up a bad injury earlier in the season and has been out for quite a while now. 

I think thats him, he was incredible and a big threat if he returns. 

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31 minutes ago, Rebel said:

They will lose Liam Delap and Leif Davis to premier league teams I would think - plus they have quite a few players on loan like Encisco, Godfrey,  Cajuste and Phillips who will nearly all go as well.   Luongo and Tzunabe are out of contract as well and will probably leave.  Burgess is as well but I think he will stay.  The squad that's left look a bit weak in central midfield but I would think they will be contenders for promotion once they spend a bit of money on replacements.

Unfortunately with Ipswich, Leicester and us going down and Birmingham and Wrexham coming up to the championship and clubs like Sunderland, Coventry and Middlesbrough it will be a tough league next season.

Leicester look like they could be in trouble due to their finances so maybe they will implode and count themselves out.  They will probably have to cash in on players like Hermansen,  Ndidi, Soumare, Faes and El Khannouss,  Plus Oedoaurd and Buonaatte are on loan and Vardy is out of contract.

We really need a good summer transfer window and a good manager if we are to be in the running next season though. 

 

 

Would Ipswich not be in a bit of trouble with finances? Spent net ~£130million this year and were in League One the season before last so potentially need to sell a bit more than just Delap and Davis? That said, seeing as barely anything ever happens, they will probably spend another net £50million and be fine! 

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2 hours ago, Dman said:

Ipswich are going to comfortably win the championship next season. 

They have a brilliant squad for this level. 

They'll lose a few but like us got quite a few who are good in the championship but not good enough for the Premier league. If their managers stays though i'd expect them to be there or there abouts

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2 hours ago, Dman said:

Ipswich are going to comfortably win the championship next season. 

They have a brilliant squad for this level. 

Depends if they lose McKenna to a prem side, which could happen. They're bankrolled to the hilt by their ownership group unfortunatley, right on PSR loss limits last season and the owners paid all that off to keep them debt free. Its a very good job for McKenna.

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25 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

Depends if they lose McKenna to a prem side, which could happen. They're bankrolled to the hilt by their ownership group unfortunatley, right on PSR loss limits last season and the owners paid all that off to keep them debt free. Its a very good job for McKenna.

How is that possible? Thought the whole point of PSR was so that couldn't happen.

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2 hours ago, Turkish said:

How is that possible? Thought the whole point of PSR was so that couldn't happen.

The owners have provided cash injections to fully underwrite the losses, so as a business they're basically debt free, and they're within the loss PSR rules.

The following is for the 23/24 reporting period - so not this season, although i would imagine they're fine after a year in the prem.

https://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-news/49240/town-accounts-show-�39.3m-loss-and-turnover-increase-by-71-per-cent

Town's accounts for the year to June 2024 show a total loss of £39.3 million and turnover increasing by 71 per cent to £37.3 million.

The loss, an increase of 116 per cent on the previous year (£18.17 million), was wholly expected in the season in which the Blues, newly risen from League One, climbed into the Premier League at the first attempt with £16.3 million of those losses promotion costs. Without those promotion costs, bonuses etc, the increase in losses is reduced to 26 per cent.

The entire loss was covered by cash injections by the owners of £39.2 million with the club having no external debt, aside from the £391,000 in loan notes issued in the years following the club’s spell in administration just over 20 years ago.

The 71 per cent increase in turnover to £37.3 million - £21.8 million the previous year - was led by league, retail, commercial and ticket incomes.


As was the case last year, Town have published their Profitability and Sustainability (P&S) position - Financial Fair Play limitations - with eligible losses £34.9 million over three years and the threshold £39 million, giving Town headroom of more than 10 per cent.

 

EFL per season losses are £13m per season (giving the £39m limit). After a year in the premier league, they can replace one of the £13M per season loss limits with a £35M (premier league) loss per season. So their allowable losses at the end of this current season's reporting period will be £61M. I also doubt whether they'll have made much of a loss this season with a largely EFL squad and premier league monies. So with owners that are seemingly prepared to underwrite losses, i would imagine they can spend a shit load of cash by championship standards with minimal concerns over balancing the books.

Conversely, saints made a profit of £5M last season due significantly to transfer sales - and within that paid down our debts by a significant amount (think it was like £20M or something). I assume we'll have done the same again this season re the debts. But like it or not, Ipswich are gonna be spendy spendy for the championship i suspect next season (subject to the owners continuing to back them), and unless Dragan wants to back saints, i doubt we'll match them.

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Thanks for the above

Given you’d think it looks likely that two of the three that came down last year are going straight back up with Leeds and Luton if indeed they survive will be in the second year of their parachute payments you’d think the three relegated sides would be in a much better position then the rest of the division with regard to spending 

i don’t really know what Leicester situation is but they’d still be able to attract some decent loans and a decent manager to give them a shot of promotion so in theory all 3 should be strong this year 
 

that said given SRs track record I’ve little confidence in them to spend it properly so who knows what will happen. Hopefully sensible signings and appointments rather than spunking it on injured strikers and ones for the future like our last relegation 

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4 hours ago, OldNick said:

I think thats him, he was incredible and a big threat if he returns. 

To be fair, Russ made Fatawu look like a world beater by bringing on his old buddy Fraser at left back for him to absolutely destroy. 

Fraser got skinned all ends up by him for their first goal, then straight after that stood off him and let him get a shot away which hit the bar. For good measure he then gave away a penalty, from which they equalised, and got sent off. 

A masterful substitution which turned a 2-0 lead into a 2-3 defeat. 

Although in that match the penalty not given by that wanker Taylor for the blatant foul against Onuachu remains the most outrageous decision we've had against us this season. 

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25 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

To be fair, Russ made Fatawu look like a world beater by bringing on his old buddy Fraser at left back for him to absolutely destroy. 

Fraser got skinned all ends up by him for their first goal, then straight after that stood off him and let him get a shot away which hit the bar. For good measure he then gave away a penalty, from which they equalised, and got sent off. 

A masterful substitution which turned a 2-0 lead into a 2-3 defeat. 

Although in that match the penalty not given by that wanker Taylor for the blatant foul against Onuachu remains the most outrageous decision we've had against us this season. 

He also tore us a new one at their place, scored a hat trick I think you will find

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Our recruitment this summer needs to be players who could make the step up into the PL. Obviously difficult to identify and sign such players when you're in the Championship, but we absolutely do not need Ryan Fraser or Charlie Taylor type signings.

A couple of very good Championship players in mind -

Hamer (Coventry) AM

Cirkin (Sunderland) LB

Sainz (Norwich) LW

 

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18 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said:

Our recruitment this summer needs to be players who could make the step up into the PL. Obviously difficult to identify and sign such players when you're in the Championship, but we absolutely do not need Ryan Fraser or Charlie Taylor type signings.

A couple of very good Championship players in mind -

Hamer (Coventry) AM

Cirkin (Sunderland) LB

Sainz (Norwich) LW

 

Hamer plays for Sheffield United and could end up in the Premier League. Agree on Sainz, he has impressed when I've seen him

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