Role models needed.

[Turkish]

8 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Ironically I have just finished reading “How Not To Be A Boy” by Robert Webb which deals with not just toxic masculinity but the given idea of masculinity in general. He makes the very valid point that boys are not born with this notion of masculinity of what it is to “be a man”. It is something that we and our society teach them from the time they are born.

I’m not suggesting for one minute  that sex offender  Donald Trump is a role model, but when kind of example does it set young boys when they see the most powerful man on the planet displaying such blatant misogyny and disregard for women and, on a daily basis, makes out that machismo is the way forward and might is right.

As Webb points out, people are people and gender should make no difference to the way that we treat others. There are plenty of people who criticise people like Andrew Tate on one hand yet still refer to women as “bikes” if they are sexually promiscuous.

Not only are we now seeing more young men who believe that girls and women are their for their own sexual gratification, they also now think it is perfectly ok to carry knives and, on regular occasions, stab other people with them.

Our current King and Queen are adulterers as are two of our recent PMs. Professional footballers appear on the front pages of the tabloids charged with rape with boring regularity.The father of the worlds richest man impregnated his own stepdaughter and his son has 13 children by several different woman already. The scumbags get the headlines while the decent people, and there still are some, get relegated to the back pages because being decent (or woke) is becoming a negative. 

Sad times.
 

Course you have 😂😂😂

[whelk]

10 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Ironically I have just finished reading “How Not To Be A Boy” by Robert Webb which deals with not just toxic masculinity but the given idea of masculinity in general. He makes the very valid point that boys are not born with this notion of masculinity of what it is to “be a man”. It is something that we and our society teach them from the time they are born.

I’m not suggesting for one minute  that sex offender  Donald Trump is a role model, but when kind of example does it set young boys when they see the most powerful man on the planet displaying such blatant misogyny and disregard for women and, on a daily basis, makes out that machismo is the way forward and might is right.

As Webb points out, people are people and gender should make no difference to the way that we treat others. There are plenty of people who criticise people like Andrew Tate on one hand yet still refer to women as “bikes” if they are sexually promiscuous.

Not only are we now seeing more young men who believe that girls and women are their for their own sexual gratification, they also now think it is perfectly ok to carry knives and, on regular occasions, stab other people with them.

Our current King and Queen are adulterers as are two of our recent PMs. Professional footballers appear on the front pages of the tabloids charged with rape with boring regularity.The father of the worlds richest man impregnated his own stepdaughter and his son has 13 children by several different woman already. The scumbags get the headlines while the decent people, and there still are some, get relegated to the back pages because being decent (or woke) is becoming a negative. 

Sad times.
 

Bit of Friday cheer

[The Kraken]

[SotonianWill]

1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

Ironically I have just finished reading “How Not To Be A Boy” by Robert Webb which deals with not just toxic masculinity but the given idea of masculinity in general. He makes the very valid point that boys are not born with this notion of masculinity of what it is to “be a man”. It is something that we and our society teach them from the time they are born.

I’m not suggesting for one minute  that sex offender  Donald Trump is a role model, but when kind of example does it set young boys when they see the most powerful man on the planet displaying such blatant misogyny and disregard for women and, on a daily basis, makes out that machismo is the way forward and might is right.

As Webb points out, people are people and gender should make no difference to the way that we treat others. There are plenty of people who criticise people like Andrew Tate on one hand yet still refer to women as “bikes” if they are sexually promiscuous.

Not only are we now seeing more young men who believe that girls and women are their for their own sexual gratification, they also now think it is perfectly ok to carry knives and, on regular occasions, stab other people with them.

Our current King and Queen are adulterers as are two of our recent PMs. Professional footballers appear on the front pages of the tabloids charged with rape with boring regularity.The father of the worlds richest man impregnated his own stepdaughter and his son has 13 children by several different woman already. The scumbags get the headlines while the decent people, and there still are some, get relegated to the back pages because being decent (or woke) is becoming a negative. 

Sad times.
 

Men and women have different chemical and hormonal responses, of course they react differently to one another. 

 

Also, there’s one key to men objectifying women in the modern age and it’s so easy to access: P-O-R-N. Cut that and we cut 99% of objectification problems. It makes people weird, increasingly sexually minded (this is normal, but porn undoubtedly makes people think about sex all the time), and it normalises abuse behind the terms of “fetishes.” 

 

On adultery and the like, this is a societal problem caused by a break of the family unit, coming from R. Jenkins onwards. 

 

[SotonianWill]

7 hours ago, tdmickey3 said:

You are welcome 😉

LooNic just wants to make friends (bless) and sees you as one, mainly because of your exchanges with SOG

I value @east-stand-nic’s contributions. Most interesting and provides a polarised opinion, which is why I also enjoy SOG and co. from other sides. 

Nic does sound like a few I hear from on the Ugly Inside, I wonder if you have an account Nic (?). I’m not a member on here so can’t PM you to ask.

 

[Colinjb]

I write this from my limited perspective as a classroom teacher to a limited audience. 

I have been repeatedly called a positive masculine role-model over the last 24 months of my teaching career. And been placed into a role of mentoring young lads of varying position.

The school and psychologist episodes of Adolescence ring extremely true. There is a deep frustration, horrifying profiling of young men as inherently dangerous..... You call someone a threat for long enough it will happen, but, as shown at the back end of the psychologist episode, it's through a lack of acceptance. "Do you like me?" There is a generation of young lads coming through who have nothing. No positivity, no future. So all they have is instinct. And that, in itself is not to be unchecked.

I have no answers. My work just gives me more questions on how I can help them.

But, I try what I can. Oppose overt bullying and intimidation where I see it, ensure the right atmosphere in my classroom....and value all kids who buy into the positivity and work ethic I encourage. All I can tell my classes is that I value effort and kindness, show that and I will have your back....... It seems to resonate. 

[Turkish]

I guess you don’t volunteer to be a role model you become one by repeatedly encouraging, inspiring people and making other people feel good about themselves coming from a place of authenticity.

youd need a positive mindset, you cant fill others up if your own cup is empty. So a negative, victim mindset and constant negativity would make you a very poor role model.

other character traits that would make poor role models are piety, No one wants to be preached at, they need to be inspired if you’ve got someone on your shoulder all the time bleating. Preaching and whinging on about what you should be doing then that’s going to cause resentment and annoyance 

no one is perfect and most people has a few skeletons in their closet but when you’re trying to build others up to make up for your own past mistake rather than caring for the actual individual then this isn’t authentic and trying to make you feel better about yourself than inspiring others out of genuine empathy for them. 
 

as well as piety no pity, not looking as someone who has fallen down the well and looking down at them telling them how bad it must be. the role model gets in the well with them and help them out of it rather than telling the person and others what they need to do whilst not helping themselves 

for sure it’s not easy and not everyone can do no matter how many books they might pretend to read about it. Certainly it’s needs to be authentic and empathetic whilst at the same time positive and inspiring. 

Edited Saturday at 09:10 by Turkish

[Turkish]

On a seperate note why does Andrew Tate get so much air time? The blokes a cock but I’ve just seen him on the main news on ITV again ahead of George Foreman’s death. If he wasn’t all over the news no one would know who is was 

[SotonianWill]

2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

On a seperate note why does Andrew Tate get so much air time? The blokes a cock but I’ve just seen him on the main news on ITV again ahead of George Foreman’s death. If he wasn’t all over the news no one would know who is was 

I like the fact the news makes it out like people my sort of age think his views are sacred and that’s why people are bad today. Literally everyone I know think he’s an arse and he’s a memed figure 😂

[east-stand-nic]

12 hours ago, SotonianWill said:

I value @east-stand-nic’s contributions. Most interesting and provides a polarised opinion, which is why I also enjoy SOG and co. from other sides. 

Nic does sound like a few I hear from on the Ugly Inside, I wonder if you have an account Nic (?). I’m not a member on here so can’t PM you to ask.

 

I am not on the ugly. They don't seem to let new people join. Tried many times and it just never works and admin never replies. Very odd. Closed shop I guess .... 

[Lighthouse]

9 minutes ago, Turkish said:

On a seperate note why does Andrew Tate get so much air time? The blokes a cock but I’ve just seen him on the main news on ITV again ahead of George Foreman’s death. If he wasn’t all over the news no one would know who is was 

He falls under the umbrella of ‘scumbag porn’. He’s no different to Katie Price or any of the d*ckheads on Love Island, Big Brother or TOWIE. They offer absolutely nothing of any benefit, talent or interest to society but people love to watch them and gossip about what absolute trash they are. I guess it releases endorphins or something, feeling like you’re much better than other people.

[sadoldgit]

Halfway through Adolescence at the moment. This from its writer. Action not role models.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0egyyq1z47o.amp

Re Tate, this article is from a few years back. Famous on TikTok apparently.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/06/andrew-tate-violent-misogynistic-world-of-tiktok-new-star

Edited Saturday at 09:54 by sadoldgit

[hypochondriac]

23 minutes ago, Turkish said:

On a seperate note why does Andrew Tate get so much air time? The blokes a cock but I’ve just seen him on the main news on ITV again ahead of George Foreman’s death. If he wasn’t all over the news no one would know who is was 

I didn't even know him until a couple of years ago he was suddenly everywhere. Just ignore the bloke. 

[rallyboy]

3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I didn't even know him until a couple of years ago he was suddenly everywhere. Just ignore the bloke. 

A problem that's been highlighted by the programme is exactly that, while you and I are ignoring the bloke, he's radicalising teenagers.

[hypochondriac]

29 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

A problem that's been highlighted by the programme is exactly that, while you and I are ignoring the bloke, he's radicalising teenagers.

Yes but the point is they are liste ING to him because of how society has treated them. Give these boys better options and stop giving them a narrative that they are bad and that it's wrong to be who they are and he will lose his attraction for most. 

[rallyboy]

24 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Yes but the point is they are liste ING to him because of how society has treated them. Give these boys better options and stop giving them a narrative that they are bad and that it's wrong to be who they are and he will lose his attraction for most. 

I've not seen this mass demonising of masculinity that you talk about - where and how is society telling teenage boys that they are all bad?

Tate needs to weave fantasy narratives to sell extremism, but where is that message being pushed in the mainstream?

[hypochondriac]

33 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

I've not seen this mass demonising of masculinity that you talk about - where and how is society telling teenage boys that they are all bad?

Tate needs to weave fantasy narratives to sell extremism, but where is that message being pushed in the mainstream?

You haven't heard the discourse around toxic masculinity? What men need is purpose in their lives, a goal and empathy where people understand that men and women are fundamentally different on average and that solutions to their problems will normally differ significantly from their female counterparts. Crying and talking about feelings at every opportunity is not the sort of thing that is going to work for a lot of young boys and men and there isn't something wrong with a young adult male if that isn't something they want to engage with. 

Schools in particular are increasingly feminised spaces and agreeableness and so called 'kindness' (which is nothing of the sort) is what is prioritised. This starts at an early age where typical boyish behaviours such as rough and tumble play and healthy ways that young boys express themselves are often criticised by the predominantly female workforce. Go to the average nursery or early years classroom and see how many opportunities there are for role play with a home corner, arts and crafts, quiet activities that demand concentration etc. Of course there's nothing wrong with those and many boys like these too but look how many opportunities there are for other pursuits such as woodworking, highly active activities where boys can channel their energy and testosterone into positive directions. Look how many school trips are organised with the average boy in mind. Look how schools penalise boisterous behaviours with a lack of understanding that for many boys it is the frustration at having to sit still and quiet for hours at a time that causes this acting out in the first place. 

As they get older, children are terminally online and the discourse is terrible. Yes you have influences like the Tates but if you talk to young people you quickly realise that there is a loud online voice telling them they are oppressors for being who they are and that all masculinity is toxic. An increasing number have never been on a date in real life, many are opting out of relationships and worry about being accused of being inappropriate so opt out of interactions with the opposite sex entirely. The other side of it is all the porn that distorts expectations in relationships and that negatively impacts all young people. Boys need something to aspire to which is why Southgate is correct in that regard but they also need some surity about their place in the world now that the traditional order of things has changed. All this should start at home and parents should be giving their children a level of self confidence but also appropriate levels of discipline to treat others with respect. Boys in particular need to feel that they have self worth, that they have a clear purpose in life and that they are valued by the people around them and by society at large. 

Edited Saturday at 11:39 by hypochondriac

[Lord Duckhunter]

On 20/03/2025 at 08:25, Sarnia Cherie said:

Gareth Southgate didn't pull any punches when he said that in today's society these young males have no role models. Nobody to look up to and admire. Nobody to inspire them

There’s too many woke twats like Southgate, that’s why there aren’t many decent role models.
 

My father was a role model for me, I had teachers that were role models. When I started work there were blokes who were at Dunkirk or fought for their country, real men. Nowadays teachers are friggin social workers, work places are run by HR & parents don’t seem to have much control over their offspring (or don’t seem to even want to).

What then happens is the space is filled by toxic males, cosplaying masculinity whilst the wokies clutch their pearls saying how terrible it is. 

[sadoldgit]

5 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

There’s too many woke twats like Southgate, that’s why there aren’t many decent role models.
 

My father was a role model for me, I had teachers that were role models. When I started work there were blokes who were at Dunkirk or fought for their country, real men. Nowadays teachers are friggin social workers, work places are run by HR & parents don’t seem to have much control over their offspring (or don’t seem to even want to).

What then happens is the space is filled by toxic males, cosplaying masculinity whilst the wokies clutch their pearls saying how terrible it is. 

Which explains your attitude perfectly and why you think it is ok to call some women “9 pinters” and your wife “snapdragon”.

It is 2025 Duckie, not 1939.

Edited Saturday at 12:06 by sadoldgit

[Turkish]

43 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Which explains your attitude perfectly and why you think it is ok to call some women “9 pinters” and your wife “snapdragon”.

It is 2025 Duckie, not 1939.

Whereas you condone domestic violence and have boasted sexual harassment in the work place was compulsory in the 80s

 

[Turkish]

2 hours ago, rallyboy said:

A problem that's been highlighted by the programme is exactly that, while you and I are ignoring the bloke, he's radicalising teenagers.

Not sure he is, most of the kids I know think he’s a cock too. I’m really not sure him regularly getting airtime in the national news is a good use of anyones time mind

[aintforever]

50 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

There’s too many woke twats like Southgate, that’s why there aren’t many decent role models.
 

My father was a role model for me, I had teachers that were role models. When I started work there were blokes who were at Dunkirk or fought for their country, real men. Nowadays teachers are friggin social workers, work places are run by HR & parents don’t seem to have much control over their offspring (or don’t seem to even want to).

What then happens is the space is filled by toxic males, cosplaying masculinity whilst the wokies clutch their pearls saying how terrible it is. 

Agree about the difference in generations. My grandad’s generation fought in the war so earned the respect of the country, all the boomers that followed have done is get rich off the housing boom, rack up a massive debt and fuck up the environment.

[sadoldgit]

People are the product of the times they live in. The world is a very difference place now than it was half way through the last century just as it is different to the Middle Ages. Some things improve. Some things get worse. It wasn’t that long ago that women couldn’t vote here and were expected to stay at home and raise children. Things have improved massively in some areas but they are still suffering the effects of misogyny, domestic violence and sexual assault. If Andrew Tate and his like have had one positive effect on modern life, it is that they have brought toxic masculinity back into the headlines. Maybe it will make some people think a bit more about the people who support him and his rhetoric - Trump and Farage to name but two.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/20/nigel-farage-andrew-tate-important-voice-men-podcast-interview

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/the-tates-and-trumps-inner-circle-the-deepening-ties-that-led-to-the-controversial-influencers-flying-to-freedom-in-america-13318676

Edited Saturday at 13:42 by sadoldgit

[whelk]

The sweeping generalisations on this thread are fucking comical.  Oh for the halcyon past and oh how scared we all are of the dystopian future.

Winston Chilcott took a machete to a policeman in the 80s - when men were real men and teachers were proper fucking bullies none of your modern day poofs. Fucking Dunkirk - lol.

 

[hypochondriac]

2 hours ago, whelk said:

The sweeping generalisations on this thread are fucking comical.  Oh for the halcyon past and oh how scared we all are of the dystopian future.

Winston Chilcott took a machete to a policeman in the 80s - when men were real men and teachers were proper fucking bullies none of your modern day poofs. Fucking Dunkirk - lol.

 

It would be silly to think of the past as perfect but there's been a growing problem over the last 15 years or so. I'd say the Internet is a huge part of it. 

[sadoldgit]

The idea that someone with his ideology with over 10m followers on X is nothing to be concerned about is bizarre to say the least.

[whelk]

18 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

The idea that someone with his ideology with over 10m followers on X is nothing to be concerned about is bizarre to say the least.

Is Tate going to be another person you obsess about whereas the rest of us will ignore?

[whelk]

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

It would be silly to think of the past as perfect but there's been a growing problem over the last 15 years or so. I'd say the Internet is a huge part of it. 

Agree internet has made many things worse in terms of relationships and community but this populist message craving simpler times when everything was so much better is largely bunkum. Not how time works, there has been lots of progress. Now you and Republicans railing against DEI as if there has been no progress in changing people’s mindsets to those that are different. I actually agree gone much too far and needs pulling back. I imagine a gay teenager will be much happier today then they would have been in the 80s.

So don’t think it is as bleak as many here seem to think for young males.

Edited Saturday at 19:02 by whelk

[egg]

25 minutes ago, whelk said:

Is Tate going to be another person you obsess about whereas the rest of us will ignore?

He makes a valid point though. Mind boggling that so many follow people a bloke that. 

[whelk]

2 minutes ago, egg said:

He makes a valid point though. Mind boggling that so many follow people a bloke that. 

How many follow Musk? I don’t know the numbers for Tate but assume most aren’t disciples. As others said it is media seem to be perpetuating the guy’s fame and giving news coverage.

ps Nice Yoda speak

[egg]

9 minutes ago, whelk said:

How many follow Musk? I don’t know the numbers for Tate but assume most aren’t disciples. As others said it is media seem to be perpetuating the guy’s fame and giving news coverage.

ps Nice Yoda speak

Eh?

And he's not Musk. It surprises me that 10m people follow someone like Tate. Nothing wrong in highlighting that. 

[skintsaint]

20 minutes ago, egg said:

Mind boggling that so many follow people a bloke that. 

https://www.socialcrow.co/twitter

 

Not saying all bots, but I reckon a large percentage are. I wouldn't take follower numbers as gospel.

Edited Saturday at 19:40 by skintsaint

[whelk]

19 minutes ago, egg said:

Eh?

 

32 minutes ago, whelk said:

so many follow people a bloke that. 

 

[egg]

18 minutes ago, whelk said:

 

 

Fair point!! 

[sadoldgit]

16 hours ago, whelk said:

Is Tate going to be another person you obsess about whereas the rest of us will ignore?

Obsess? I wasn’t the one who stated a thread about Tate. I am merely pointing out that whilst some are playing down his relevance he and his views are a big issue and need to be taken seriously. The media were taking him seriously several years ago. The fact that some people have only just become aware of him doesn’t mean that he has only just surfaced and has little relevance. 10million followers or not, it is the type of people that he is influencing that is a major issue. The incels who sit in their rooms every night and feed in his (and others)bullshit.

There are plenty of news features about Tate going back a few years if you both to google his name. His name comes up time and again in discussions about misogyny. This is nothing to do with me and your warped idea that I am obsess with him. It is a fact.

If you had a young son who was following Tate’s content every day, how would you feel about it? We know Duckie would be cool with it because that is his idea of masculinity, but who you be happy if your son grew up like Tate?

No surprise to see a laughing emoji from someone who refers to women as “bikes”.

 

Edited Sunday at 11:49 by sadoldgit
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[whelk]

52 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Obsess? I wasn’t the one who stated a thread about Tate. I am merely pointing out that whilst some are playing down his relevance he and his views are a big issue and need to be taken seriously. The media were taking him seriously several years ago. The fact that some people have only just become aware of him doesn’t mean that he has only just surfaced and has little relevance. 10million followers or not, it is the type of people that he is influencing that is a major issue. The incels who sit in their rooms every night and feed in his (and others)bullshit.

There are plenty of news features about Tate going back a few years if you both to google his name. His name comes up time and again in discussions about misogyny. This is nothing to do with me and your warped idea that I am obsess with him. It is a fact.

If you had a young son who was following Tate’s content every day, how would you feel about it? We know Duckie would be cool with it because that is his idea of masculinity, but who you be happy if your son grew up like Tate?

No surprise to see a laughing emoji from someone who refers to women as “bikes”.

 

Strange man. Keep Googling misogyny - good research, going to make you very happy.

 

 

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

Obsess? I wasn’t the one who stated a thread about Tate. I am merely pointing out that whilst some are playing down his relevance he and his views are a big issue and need to be taken seriously. The media were taking him seriously several years ago. The fact that some people have only just become aware of him doesn’t mean that he has only just surfaced and has little relevance. 10million followers or not, it is the type of people that he is influencing that is a major issue. The incels who sit in their rooms every night and feed in his (and others)bullshit.

There are plenty of news features about Tate going back a few years if you both to google his name. His name comes up time and again in discussions about misogyny. This is nothing to do with me and your warped idea that I am obsess with him. It is a fact.

If you had a young son who was following Tate’s content every day, how would you feel about it? We know Duckie would be cool with it because that is his idea of masculinity, but who you be happy if your son grew up like Tate?

No surprise to see a laughing emoji from someone who refers to women as “bikes”.

 

No you weren’t but you were the one who bumped it months later to try and point score and didn’t bother understanding what it was about, a behaviour that is all too common SOG

You’ve obviously been googling though and following his comments and content otherwise you wouldn’t know the statements he made, or did you make that up?

As for your edit about “bikes”, which you’ve now mentioned several times, care to find and share the post? Interesting that you’d know this post from someone you insist that you don’t pay any attention too 🤣

Edited Sunday at 12:08 by Turkish

[whelk]

2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

No you weren’t but you were the one who bumped it months later to try and point score and didn’t bother understanding what it was about, a behaviour that is all too common SOG

You’ve obviously been googling though and following his comments and content otherwise you wouldn’t know the statements he made, or did you make that up?

 

He is clearly one of the 10 million

[sadoldgit]

3 minutes ago, whelk said:

He is clearly one of the 10 million

Why would you say that? I don’t use X and I don’t use TikTok either but I have read articles that say that is where his influence comes from.

I noticed that you didn’t answer my question. I have three daughters from their mid to late twenties and pray that they never meet a man like Tate (or a few of the posters on here for that matter). I also have a step son in his early 30’s who went off the rails a bit as a teenager but thankfully has grown up as a decent guy who respects women. One particular poster wouldn’t like him though. Far too “woke”.

[sadoldgit]

12 minutes ago, Turkish said:

No you weren’t but you were the one who bumped it months later to try and point score and didn’t bother understanding what it was about, a behaviour that is all too common SOG

You’ve obviously been googling though and following his comments and content otherwise you wouldn’t know the statements he made, or did you make that up?

As for your edit about “bikes”, which you’ve now mentioned several times, care to find and share the post? Interesting that you’d know this post from someone you insist that you don’t pay any attention too 🤣

I didn’t bump into it as you say. I deliberately avoided it for some time when I saw that it was you who started it.

I have read articles about Tate and posted many on here. That is why I know about his comments.

You made a comment about “pushing one in the local bike” which was clearly a sexual reference. 

I have never said that I never pay any attention to you. There is a big difference between little and any. You sound more and more like our resident conspiracy theorist.
 

 

 

[Turkish]

10 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

I didn’t bump into it as you say. I deliberately avoided it for some time when I saw that it was you who started it.

I have read articles about Tate and posted many on here. That is why I know about his comments.

You made a comment about “pushing one in the local bike” which was clearly a sexual reference. 

I have never said that I never pay any attention to you. There is a big difference between little and any. You sound more and more like our resident conspiracy theorist.
 

 

 

Jesus wept

here is the thread 

let me spell it out to you 

It was clearly, blatantly a thread taking the piss out of Andrew Tate

six weeks or so after the last post you bumped the thread as some sort of evidence that I was interested in Andrew Tate and you werent because I started a thread on him. Every single other person could work it out, you seem to struggle. It’s utterly embarrassing that you’re now denying it and going on About it again

You really can’t be that stupid, can you?

Edited Sunday at 12:30 by Turkish

[whelk]

41 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Why would you say that? I don’t use X and I don’t use TikTok either but I have read articles that say that is where his influence comes from.

I noticed that you didn’t answer my question. I have three daughters from their mid to late twenties and pray that they never meet a man like Tate (or a few of the posters on here for that matter). I also have a step son in his early 30’s who went off the rails a bit as a teenager but thankfully has grown up as a decent guy who respects women. One particular poster wouldn’t like him though. Far too “woke”.

Not one poster on here has indicated any admiration for Tate or his views. Stop pissing your pants thinking all UK teenagers are looking up to him as some sort of cult leader obeying his instruction 

[east-stand-nic]

28 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Jesus wept

here is the thread 

let me spell it out to you 

It was clearly, blatantly a thread taking the piss out of Andrew Tate

six weeks or so after the last post you bumped the thread as some sort of evidence that I was interested in Andrew Tate and you werent because I started a thread on him. Every single other person could work it out, you seem to struggle. It’s utterly embarrassing that you’re now denying it and going on About it again

You really can’t be that stupid, can you?

Yes, he can. Either that or he is a total WUM and or has come kind of mental health issue as he lies, gets confused, contradicts and all sort of other things on a daily basis. How many times has he been caught out here lying or contradicting, only to either berate and slag off in a bad temper after or disappear for a week to let things calm down after his cock up. I think the time has come to give up conversing with him. I note yet again he has tried to bring me in to reply to his little childish quip and the conspiracy theorist, obviously yet again referring to me. He just cannot help himself. If i reply to that he loses his shit.

[whelk]

[Turkish]

15 hours ago, whelk said:

The king around that ime seems a bit of lad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_I_of_Macedon

Married his missus as a bribe to cover up a murder, 6 kids, some disputed parentage

I wonder if some pious character called tristis senex git was going round the temples wetting himself that the leaders were adulterers and kids were going to grow up killing each other if anyone  followed his example. 

[whelk]

24 minutes ago, Turkish said:

The king around that ime seems a bit of lad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_I_of_Macedon

Married his missus as a bribe to cover up a murder, 6 kids, some disputed parentage

I wonder if some pious character called tristis senex git was going round the temples wetting himself that the leaders were adulterers and kids were going to grow up killing each other if anyone  followed his example. 

Expect badger will be along in a moment to point out that Ancient Greek not Latin although I am disappointed the Romans didn’t call a ‘git’ a ‘gittus’. That’s my goto suffix when pretending I can speak Latin

[Whitey Grandad]

4 hours ago, whelk said:

Expect badger will be along in a moment to point out that Ancient Greek not Latin although I am disappointed the Romans didn’t call a ‘git’ a ‘gittus’. That’s my goto suffix when pretending I can speak Latin

You may be intrigued to know (maybe not) that the Lain name for whelk is “Buccinum undatum“ though I suspect that is the nominative case and any one addressing you directly might use “Buccine”