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S-Clarke

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  On 15/03/2025 at 18:01, Pamplemousse said:

The players deserve a lot of criticism but the result today is on the manager. He should be sacked immediately.

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I'd say the players deserve absolute barrels after this season, they have all been a disgrace. No matter how limited they may be, some of the games where they have downed tools should equal fines.

The manager isn't innocent to this, but this entire season is on these players and they should know it. Bar Fernandes and maybe Dibling I have no feeling for anyone in our squad, they can all go. Sad place to be.

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S-Clarke

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  On 15/03/2025 at 18:03, ChristopheVAFC said:

I think there will be a lot of changes next summer, and we'll have to learn some important lessons from this season, which has been very, very complicated for you...

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Sports Republic are incapable of learning any lessons, so I don't hold out much hope until they sell up.

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miserableoldgit

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  On 15/03/2025 at 17:50, Lighthouse said:

Do you think sacking managers every six to eight games is a good way to run a football club?

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Of course not.......employing the right people in the first place is the right way. Getting rid of people when it is obvious that they can't do the job and not let them carry on not doing the job is the right way.

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derry

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That was a gormless shambles. I personally think the manager is an idiot. What is needed is a manager that believes all the defenders defend. We had three full backs creating precisely nothing and no idea how to defend. We need a couple of centre backs that go for the headers. I'd like to see us ditch the various formations tried and play 4-4-2  with two strikers. Now is the chance to unload all the superficial players and bring in some gritty, uncompromising characters.

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Osvaldorama

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  On 15/03/2025 at 17:33, revolution saint said:

Honestly can’t be arsed to go to any more games this season. It’s turgid shit. Might go to the last game but that’s about it

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Agreed not watching any more of this shite. 
 

Horrendous, horrendous stuff. The worst it’s ever been for me, and I had season tickets in the previous relegation seasons. 


This team, management and entire club is just horrendous and doesn’t deserve our support. Absolutely dire. Seriously can’t believe what I’m watching at times.
 

Fernandes is the only positive and the manager took him off and slated him to the press. Joke. 

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S-Clarke

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  On 15/03/2025 at 17:50, Lighthouse said:

Do you think sacking managers every six to eight games is a good way to run a football club?

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It's not, but the club has got it's self in this situation by tying it's self up in so many knots. They are terrible at recruitment of coaches, managers and players. Full stop. If they weren't so bad at that we wouldn't be looking to replace the manager again.

For what it's worth I don't think it makes much odds to get rid of him now either, but he does need to go in the summer so we can start next season with an entire broom. Players, coaches, managers, scouts, analysts. Everything needs to start again. No half arsed efforts or sticking plasters, they need to reset every single bit of the football operation in the summer and then maybe we can stick rather than swaying from side to side every few months.

I don't have much confidence in that though, as their decision making is amongst the worst in the world. I can't think of any club in any league executing decisions as badly as ourselves over a consistent period of time.

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Toussaint

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  On 15/03/2025 at 17:57, Oldandtired said:

For something a bit different has anybody else noticed that the number of empty seats in the directors box seems to be growing? Anyone got any good conspiracy theories?

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Not a conspiracy theory, just a theory that they are a bunch of fraudsters, charlatans and chancers who are too cowardly to face the consequences of their actions. 

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UpweySaint

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  On 15/03/2025 at 18:09, LGTL said:

Juric is absolutely fucking pathetic, yet still has the same number of wins as Russell Martin in the PL. 

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Players downed tools at the end of Martin’s reign but for a while before that we were often competitive but being undone by stupid mistakes. I think Martin had to go but Juric has added the square root of fuck all and we would have been better off giving Rusk the gig.

 

Juric makes such bizarre decisions and doesn’t seem to learn.

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LGTL

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  On 15/03/2025 at 18:14, UpweySaint said:

Players downed tools at the end of Martin’s reign but for a while before that we were often competitive but being undone by stupid mistakes. I think Martin had to go but Juric has added the square root of fuck all and we would have been better off giving Rusk the gig.

 

Juric makes such bizarre decisions and doesn’t seem to learn.

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I don’t disagree.

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gammon cheeks

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We are going to be the worst team in Premier league history 

That itself is an utter disgrace and as fans of this football club is a totally fn embarrassment 

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miserableoldgit

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  On 15/03/2025 at 18:13, Toussaint said:

Not a conspiracy theory, just a theory that they are a bunch of fraudsters, charlatans and chancers who are too cowardly to face the consequences of their actions. 

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How many "Fraudsters" spend the amount of money on Saints that SR have? What is the expected "outcome" of this fraud?

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warsash saint

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  On 15/03/2025 at 17:39, Lighthouse said:

Juric has managed other clubs our size with a reasonable degree of success. Neither Rusk nor Lallana has anything on their CV above National League level. This is just people wanting change for the sake of change with no idea of how or why there’d be any improvement. It’d be a pointless waste of money.

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You really think anyone but Juric brings on Stephens & plays him up front??!!  So it's not pointless!!

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madge

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Thought we started well but it was so so obvious that when we had the ball wide in crossing positions there was absolutely nobody in the box. That game was lost before kick off. Wolves were dogshit but played with a striker. Thought juric was ok at first but his thinking is completely muddled. Club is an absolute shambles from top to bottom. Owner seems to get an easy ride but it’s all on him as the chief decision maker. Get Nigel Adkins in for the last few games.. least someone who would at least show some passion and unite the fan base. But I’ve never been so increasingly disconnected to this twat of a football club. 

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Lighthouse

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  On 15/03/2025 at 18:29, warsash saint said:

You really think anyone but Juric brings on Stephens & plays him up front??!!  So it's not pointless!!

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He brought on a 6’1" player to stick up front in the 92nd minute when we were already losing, is that really that bad? What was the really obvious alternative I’m missing here? Not make a sub and just carry on with the team losing 2-1, would that really have been better?

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S-Clarke

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  On 15/03/2025 at 18:38, Lighthouse said:

He brought on a 6’1" player to stick up front in the 92nd minute when we were already losing, is that really that bad? What was the really obvious alternative I’m missing here? Not make a sub and just carry on with the team losing 2-1, would that really have been better?

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I'd say the obvious alternative was to start with a fucking proper striker to start with, then maybe he wouldn't have to flap around in the 90th min.

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Roo1976

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  On 15/03/2025 at 16:18, trousers said:

Markus planted the seeds. The seeds then grew and flourished over the next few years after his passing; then the plants were left to dwindle. Markus passing away was indeed the start of our downfall, just took a few years for the effect to kick in...

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A sad and slow decline indeed.How can Dragan  keep accepting this apathy? how are the top management keeping their jobs? and the players need to look at themselves and be honest about how they are becoming closer to being the worst premiere league team in history. Believe me if we dont beat Derbys pathetic points we will hold that record for  ever i think, to not being able to get 11 points from 30 odd games in a season beggars belief,sad times to be in that number . Manager clueless,why  not play a focal point up front? why choose now at this time in the season to try and be different?wow just wow...............these players need to know from us fans that the lowest points total will not sit very well with us especially as there will be 2 south coast derbies to try  and negotiate next season .

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captainchris

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  On 15/03/2025 at 17:57, Lighthouse said:

I don’t know what the compensation clauses are in Juric’s contract and neither does anyone else on this board. Of course there’s something to lose, we could lose every game 7-0.

It’s amazing how often people say, "sack the manager it literally can’t get any worse," and then the manager gets sacked and it’s literally worse. There’s little point in changing anything until summer, just let the season peter out and see what August brings.

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For Gods sake sonny. There is no ‘compensation’ involved !!! Don’t you understand? Juric is being paid until the end of the season regardless so it doesn’t cost any more to replace him with in-house replacements….

if you don’t understand that then God help you….

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Football Special

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  On 15/03/2025 at 18:01, Pamplemousse said:

The players deserve a lot of criticism but the result today is on the manager. He should be sacked immediately.

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Wolves were shite and there for the taking and we put out a side/ performance like that, unforgivable,  for me worse than other heavier recent losses to decent sides 

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Gloucester Saint

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Just watched England’s superb win in Cardiff. Wales are the Southampton Football Club 2024-25 of international rugby union but got brutally steamrollered by a fast, strong, athletic English outfit on the rise.

Sell Dibling and Fernandes, although that’s a pity, Ramsdale and then sell the shithouses who have a market like THB, BBD to the Blades. Shift anything else that has a buyer eg Aribo, Sulemana and start again with a strong new goalkeeper, none of this ‘the club rates Bazanu nonsense’, and pace/physical strength throughout the spine. Add in Edwards and Charles, AA can stay if he wants, but start again with everything else. New post-football careers for Stewart and Larios. 

If a player we are considering buying can’t make a major contribution next season to winning the league with 100 points and 50+ GD, they aren’t good enough and need to pay more.

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OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint

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  On 15/03/2025 at 18:39, S-Clarke said:

I'd say the obvious alternative was to start with a fucking proper striker to start with, then maybe he wouldn't have to flap around in the 90th min.

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What I don't understand is that it is obvious to us that you have to play with a striker and then we see a back four and a stacked midfield make a game of it an Anfield. So why return to this nonsense? Surely the players see it and can't the coaching staff put him right? Perhaps they don't care anymore or perhaps they're just scared they'll get duffed up in the car park!

CB Fry

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  On 15/03/2025 at 17:57, Lighthouse said:

I don’t know what the compensation clauses are in Juric’s contract and neither does anyone else on this board. Of course there’s something to lose, we could lose every game 7-0.

It’s amazing how often people say, "sack the manager it literally can’t get any worse," and then the manager gets sacked and it’s literally worse. There’s little point in changing anything until summer, just let the season peter out and see what August brings.

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This guy thinks Juric gets more money out of us if we put him on gardening leave than if he comes into work. Jesus wept.

Fuck knows what keeping Juric in place does when even you don't want him next season.

 

Lighthouse

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  On 15/03/2025 at 19:31, captainchris said:

For Gods sake sonny. There is no ‘compensation’ involved !!! Don’t you understand? Juric is being paid until the end of the season regardless so it doesn’t cost any more to replace him with in-house replacements….

if you don’t understand that then God help you….

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I don’t know what clauses he has in his contract and neither do you. Maybe we get to chop him for less/free in the summer if we go down but if we sack him now we have to pay off the rest of his contract, who knows. We had the whole farce of not appointing Martin until a month into the summer window because of the whole PL/Championship compensation clauses in his contract, I don’t know what we’ve agreed with Juric.

One thing’s for sure, we aren’t going to save money sacking yet another manager with 9 games to go. It’s not going to make any difference on the pitch and I can’t see Rusk/Lallana being anything other than a downgrade. So in short, there’s no point.

macca155

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  On 15/03/2025 at 19:49, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

What I don't understand is that it is obvious to us that you have to play with a striker and then we see a back four and a stacked midfield make a game of it an Anfield. So why return to this nonsense? Surely the players see it and can't the coaching staff put him right? Perhaps they don't care anymore or perhaps they're just scared they'll get duffed up in the car park!

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All they are thinking of is their next move. They know they aren't wanted.

They are playing for a manager they have no affinity with, and have to put with tactics that 30,000 of us there today knew wouldn't work.

Wolves were pretty poor, there for the taking really. Saints have been turned over at home by all three relegation contenders.

Absolutely tragic

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Lighthouse

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  On 15/03/2025 at 18:39, S-Clarke said:

I'd say the obvious alternative was to start with a fucking proper striker to start with, then maybe he wouldn't have to flap around in the 90th min.

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I don’t disagree but that’s  nothing to do with bringing on Stephens for Aribo in the 92nd minute and lumping him up to, which was the point I was responding to. By that point both strikers on the bench had already been brought on, so it’s not like there was a better option.

Roo1976

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  On 15/03/2025 at 20:14, Lighthouse said:

I don’t disagree but that’s  nothing to do with bringing on Stephens for Aribo in the 92nd minute and lumping him up to, which was the point I was responding to. By that point both strikers on the bench had already been brought on, so it’s not like there was a better option.

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btw just saw the highlights....imo ramsdale should have stopped both

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Lone ranger

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The strangest thing is that 31000 rational human beings turn up game after game to experience misery. If we belonged to a trade union we would be out on strike until management offered better terms. Withdrawal of our labour would concentrate their minds. 
( just watching the fabulously entertaining Notts Forest. Look how they are doing with an average attendance 2000 lower than us.)

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Saint Shady

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  On 15/03/2025 at 18:38, Lighthouse said:

He brought on a 6’1" player to stick up front in the 92nd minute when we were already losing, is that really that bad? What was the really obvious alternative I’m missing here? Not make a sub and just carry on with the team losing 2-1, would that really have been better?

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Almost everytime I read your posts I wonder how it is that you became a moderator on here. I don’t post much but I do enjoy reading other people’s views and opinions but not often yours. You are up there when it comes to posting shite and the above quoted is not nearly the worst. 

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Atrocious defending for both goals, Ramsdale some how dives over a header he should save and THB makes no effort at all to get a block or tackle in for the second goal. As for the finishing,just as bad. Totally sick of this pile of garbage,most of whom are stealing a living as footballers. Most of the players have no affinity to the club at all, for Portsmouths limitations their players do put in a shift for their home games at least.  Bunch of spineless losers.

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LoyalSaintSO50

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  On 15/03/2025 at 23:32, Andrew Watson said:

Atrocious defending for both goals, Ramsdale some how dives over a header he should save and THB makes no effort at all to get a block or tackle in for the second goal. As for the finishing,just as bad. Totally sick of this pile of garbage,most of whom are stealing a living as footballers. Most of the players have no affinity to the club at all, for Portsmouths limitations their players do put in a shift for their home games at least.  Bunch of spineless losers.

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Skates have lost to Luton, Plymouth and Preston in last 4 (beat Leeds but we did that 3 times last season). Totally different level. Even with this current shower, we should still recoup a decent amount from the likes of Dibling, HB, Ramsdale etc Assuming by the law of averages we’ll get something right at some point.. there’s still hope! 

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In summary, Juric setup the team to fail in another bizarre team sheet.  First goal was the fault of Manning - stood off his man and didn’t press. What’s the point of three CB’s if none of the fuckers can man-mark or jump? Not playing a striker - AGAIN - was stupid beyond belief.  Juric has lost the plot entirely and throwing Fernandes under the bus is really saying to the club “please sack me”.

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