Saints 0-4 Brighton - Match Thread

[Pamplemousse]

7 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

This club is batshit crazy, we are broken from top to bottom. The first time they relegated us we kept a few 'PLish' players and managed to put up an attempt, although the season wasn't painless the quality saw us over the line in the end.

This time we will go down and we won't be back for a very, very, very long time. There's nothing here, nothing to build from, nothing to get behind. Most of this team will be off in the summer and we simply have to start again. That will come with pain and inconsistency, and probably a few more managerial changes before we are able to mount any form of Championship effort.

SR are about to complete their task of turning us into Stoke City v2, so well done to them.

There's not much point talking about the match as it didn't really happen, only one team played. I will question any manager who feels it's sensible to play Bree and Aribo as centre backs though, no one, not even non-league managers would do something so daft. We surrendered at 13:45, which we have done most weeks.

This season will be damaging long term to this club, let's not be naive to that. We don't just recover from a year like this and turn into beaters next season, it doesn't happen like that.

Sheffield United recovered just fine.

[Football Special]

43 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

Just fwiw, terrible tactics by Ivan Juric PLUS He has clearly ( to me) lost the changing room.
 

Not one player willing to break a leg challenging for the ball, not one player saying I’m not having it. Not one player realising that there’s 30,000 supporters wanting them to at least put their foot in. It was as apathetic a defeat as ive ever seen. 

This picture sums up the game/ season 

 

[Chez]

Almost from minute one our three centre backs were bullied. Brighton could just ping it up to a forward at and the ball stuck, almost every time. Aribo, Bree and ABK were simply not strong enough, tight enough, good enough. In contrast, we struggled to get the ball up to our forwards and when it went longer, their CBs dominated.

We couldn't get out of our own half. Brighton seemed to have a stranglehold on us and the two man midfield killed us. Les doesn't do enough and the Fernandes cant do everything.

The formation is limiting us. The fact Dibling touched that ball abut twice i the first half says it all.

The stuffing has been smashed out of the side. They don't have it in them to win games. We might lose them all from here on in. We are done. 

[die Mannyschaft]

Oh well at least we will definitely break Derby's record. At least we will have achieved something,  will thd be a trophy handed to Saints last game season! I hope so.

[BotleySaint]

It has been very poor under Juric. So much that I think we'd probably have more points under Martin. 

[S-Clarke]

7 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

Sheffield United recovered just fine.

This is different, the rot is deep. The ownership can't do anything right.

I just don't see how we can be competitive next season going by what we see every week. The levels are different, sure, but it's hard to lose every week to then start winning every week. 

We're not going to be walking away with any league next season, maybe a playoff push at absolute best if everything goes right - but that requires SR making the right calls, which they obviously won't.

[S-Clarke]

6 minutes ago, Chez said:

Almost from minute one our three centre backs were bullied. Brighton could just ping it up to a forward at and the ball stuck, almost every time. Aribo, Bree and ABK were simply not strong enough, tight enough, good enough. In contrast, we struggled to get the ball up to our forwards and when it went longer, their CBs dominated.

We couldn't get out of our own half. Brighton seemed to have a stranglehold on us and the two man midfield killed us. Les doesn't do enough and the Fernandes cant do everything.

The formation is limiting us. The fact Dibling touched that ball abut twice i the first half says it all.

The stuffing has been smashed out of the side. They don't have it in them to win games. We might lose them all from here on in. We are done. 

The fact you're describing Aribo and Bree as the two centre backs is where it's all wrong. I just couldn't believe what I was seeing.

They wouldn't even be capable centre backs in the lower league, I just have no words for this anymore. It's like we're being run as some sort of experiment.

[Chez]

1 hour ago, Cabrone said:

This is as dark as I can remember, a total capitulation. Even the Dutch duo got more points than this.

The summer we almost went bust was another low point but this actually feels worse. Just relentlessly depressing.

We have nothing. The fight has been completely knocked out of the side. We don't know what they are doing. The players look like they all want the ground to swallow them up. Half the stadium left at 2-0. What's the point in staying on? This side ain't coming back from 2-0 down.

[Saint Gifford]

This might be unpopular I know.
 

But from my time in little shorts watching Lawrie’s team until now. 
 

The best this club has been run is in the hands of ML and NC.

God Bless Marcus, and I would take Nicola back in a heartbeat. 

 

[Fabrice29]

Good reception for ABK when he came on today from the same people the sarcastically cheered Smallbone last week. Incredible stuff.

Sums up nicely our major issue for me. We are completely removed from the success we had last year as a fan base, a club and a squad both on and off the pitch. Everything that was fun and good last season has gone. We had 2 players start today who started the play off final. Appreciate there's some that weren't good enough and that will naturally happen but there's no recognisable trait from last year to this. Completely devoid of any identity and any link to the team that was actually delivering. But hey, ABK's back so happy days, cant wait to cheer the boyhood Saints fan off the pitch again.

Edited 14 hours ago by Fabrice29

[manji]

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Juric cannot stay beyond the summer

Surely not?

Probably not and probably not the plan. 

[Wsaint]

49 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

That could well be my last match at St Mary’s this season. I really can’t keep putting myself through this shite game after game.

My first season ticket since puel was last season. I was actually disappointed I couldn't get one this year when the season was starting, but it's actually been a blessing in disguise. Even watching on illegal streams I feel I've been mugged off.

[hypochondriac]

Just now, manji said:

Probably not and probably not the plan. 

Do you speak with a measure of itk? Rohl I hope. 

[woodsaint1]

Genuine question - is there any point in the fans turning up to the next home game? These players, manager and owners do not deserve the support for the rest of the season. A 5-10k attendance wont matter to the owners financially, but it will at least send a message that we've enough - not just of Juric but the whole setup at the club. Even during Nate Jones' time here there were slim hopes the team could get a result....this team doesnt look like getting anything the rest of the season

[Monk]

Ever since we switched to Puma. 

[S-Clarke]

6 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Good reception for ABK when he came on today from the same people the sarcastically cheered Smallbone last week. Incredible stuff.

Do you actually ever have a view on the games or the club it's self, or do you use this forum as place to voice your disgust at the fans?

I'm not sure who you are, but my guess is that you're some sort of a club-bot with no fan connection. It's the only conclusion I can bring myself to your weird posting style.

[Chez]

7 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

The fact you're describing Aribo and Bree as the two centre backs is where it's all wrong. I just couldn't believe what I was seeing.

They wouldn't even be capable centre backs in the lower league, I just have no words for this anymore. It's like we're being run as some sort of experiment.

It's utter madness. If you are short of center backs, go to four at the back. Aribo did ok when he was dropped in there in an emergency, but starting him there. Fuck off. The hand Juric was dealt was terrible, but this formation is hurting us. As soon as I saw he was one of those managers that kneels in the technical area I knew I wouldn't like him.

[Fabrice29]

2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Do you actually ever have a view on the games or the club it's self, or do you use this forum as place to voice your disgust at the fans?

I'm not sure who you are, but my guess is that you're some sort of a club-bot with no fan connection. It's the only conclusion I can bring myself to your weird posting style.

I've edited the post with some extra views but what would you like me to say about the game? Another post saying we weren't very good would satisfy you would it?

[The Kraken]

3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Do you actually ever have a view on the games or the club it's self, or do you use this forum as place to voice your disgust at the fans?

🤣 I thought exactly this tbf. A very upset individual.

[S-Clarke]

3 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

I've edited the post with some extra views but what would you like me to say about the game? Another post saying we weren't very good would satisfy you would it?

All those extra views did was seemingly add more disgust towards the fans.

As I said, weird posting style.

[Fabrice29]

Just now, S-Clarke said:

All those extra views did was seemingly add more disgust towards the fans.

As I said, weird posting style.

Yeah, I think turning on a boyhood Saints fan who turned up for us last season whilst cheering a guy who hasn't wanted to be here since we finished bottom last time is worth calling out. Weird, I know.

[derry]

I've known some experienced professional footballers in the past, I was impressed by their knowledge and their streetwise attitude. Watching the team today I got the distinct impression that they were doing what they were told to do but like the spectators believed it was garbage consequently we got our comeuppence. Better to draw a line under this season dump Juric and his coaches and let us finish the season with a sensible balanced set up run by the coaches. Instructed to pick a balanced team based on solid defence and only play players in their best positions. We're going to be relegated so nothing to lose now.

[ally_uk]

Well, what can we say? The whole club is in freefall.

A manager who can't motivate the team. Players who don’t care, just counting down the days until summer so they can jump ship.

A manager trying to be too clever—why is this always a theme with our appointments? Why can't we just start players in their actual positions? Am I missing something?

We are bottom of the f##king league. Forget the clever bollocks—4-4-2, back to basics. Solidify the defense and midfield.

Sports Republic has ripped the heart and soul out of this club with a succession of awful decisions.

Going forward? Sell up, or bring in actual footballing men to reset and overhaul this mess.

You're leaving a legacy of embarrassment. Think of the younger fans growing up watching this shite every week.

No pride. No passion. No heart. Bottle jobs—Ramsdale aside today! 

F###king embarrassing being a saints fan at the moment. 

[Chez]

27 minutes ago, BotleySaint said:

It has been very poor under Juric. So much that I think we'd probably have more points under Martin. 

when we were struggling to get past their first line of defence, passing it left and right and backwards, I thought the same. I have no problem Martin being sacked,  but at least we had two central midfielders that would receive the ball and help us get out. We cant even do that now. 

[saintstowin]

So, so bad. Too much to list all the badness. However, the space. The space. I've never seen anything like it. At this level, maybe at any level of professional football, going clean through or almost clean through the middle should be the most rare of occurrences. It happens every few minutes. Make it stop. All of it. Please.

[HarvSFC]

Well, the fixture computer had a good laugh putting these two home fixtures back to back. 

This is exactly the same as the Selles era. Players just turning up in a formation that looks like they're playing for a draw. However, there doesn't seem to be any tactical plan, the players don't have any determination and barely break out into a jog as though they're too scared to put in a tackle, because it could cause injury and stop a summer transfer and they get soundly beaten each week without putting up a fight. Only players who dared carry the ball up the field today were Fernandes and Sulemana, and the latter can't do anything with the ball. All the others got the ball, slowed the play down and recycled the ball to the easiest available pass, or punted it up to a Brighton shirt. Ramsdale's kicking was abysmal today. Compare how little time Brighton gave our players on the ball, forcing a mistake, to the amount of time our players gave their on the ball, allowing them to pick a pass which any Premier League player is capable of with time.

We need to ditch this pathetic formation. We need another body up the pitch. Archer was too isolated and was ineffective. I know Ounachu is crap, but Archer could do with hi around. Or, get another body in midfield, so that we aren't carved open by every single attack. The ball wouldn't stick up the pitch for us today and that's because half the team are asked to be defenders, leading to an onslaught every week. Newcastle, Brentford, Bournemouth and Brighton today.

The only man who has made us look semi-competitive this season is Rusk and that's because he kept it simple against Fulham.

The Sports Republic Midas touch continues. Jones, Selles, Martin and now Juric. What an incredible selection of managers. Could have had Jesse Marsch too. Gronbeak is also keeping with the theme of this seasons signings. Our one senior January signing, and he can't even get into this awful team apart from a cameo in the last 5 minutes. It would be an anomaly if Spors is actually any good.

At this point, it looks like we're beating Derby's record.

 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

25 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Good reception for ABK when he came on today from the same people the sarcastically cheered Smallbone last week. Incredible stuff.

Sums up nicely our major issue for me. We are completely removed from the success we had last year as a fan base, a club and a squad both on and off the pitch. Everything that was fun and good last season has gone. We had 2 players start today who started the play off final. Appreciate there's some that weren't good enough and that will naturally happen but there's no recognisable trait from last year to this. Completely devoid of any identity and any link to the team that was actually delivering. But hey, ABK's back so happy days, cant wait to cheer the boyhood Saints fan off the pitch again.

There is a reason for this. It was the total and utter lack of any sort of plan to play properly and competitively in the PL that has fucked us over. If you thought the basis of that team that struggled to get promoted was going to deliver in the PL then you are a fuckin idiot. Throw in a manager who would rather be best mates with the players and give them an easy ride then it was always going to be this way. Far too loyal to players and management. As a fan, I never expected to be watching my club like this, just waiting for the season to end. Football is supposed to be fun and enjoyable, everyone connected with Southampton, be it on the pitch, in the dugouts or in the boardroom have made this season the most gut wrenching season ever, and its still not over yet. So, by all means have a go at the fans, because as far as I'm concerned this club is fuckin lucky to still have people turn up each week home and away.  

[woodsaint1]

13 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

Well, what can we say? The whole club is in freefall.

A manager who can't motivate the team. Players who don’t care, just counting down the days until summer so they can jump ship.

A manager trying to be too clever—why is this always a theme with our appointments? Why can't we just start players in their actual positions? Am I missing something?

We are bottom of the f##king league. Forget the clever bollocks—4-4-2, back to basics. Solidify the defense and midfield.

Sports Republic has ripped the heart and soul out of this club with a succession of awful decisions.

Going forward? Sell up, or bring in actual footballing men to reset and overhaul this mess.

You're leaving a legacy of embarrassment. Think of the younger fans growing up watching this shite every week.

No pride. No passion. No heart. Bottle jobs—Ramsdale aside today! 

F###king embarrassing being a saints fan at the moment. 

100% this, hopefully its already dawned on Dragan and Spors is an appointment in the right direction. The managerial appointment in the summer is crucial for how the next 2-3 years looks

[manji]

46 minutes ago, Saint Gifford said:

This might be unpopular I know.
 

But from my time in little shorts watching Lawrie’s team until now. 
 

The best this club has been run is in the hands of ML and NC.

God Bless Marcus, and I would take Nicola back in a heartbeat. 

 

Get the Cortese comment but can’t people see how a change would be even more disruptive ? There’s some really dodgy potential buyers out there . There would have been fans wetting themselves with excitement if " Sir Jimmy " Ratcliffe had taken over . I know bad decisions have been made but SR have spent a lot of money and  I suspect that’s exactly what Mr Solak is thinking “ all my money for this ? “ .

he could run or he can take it and sort it . Trust me he’s suffered as personally as any Saints fan on a different  level sure maybe even worse. I bet he can be a complete Cvnt but he’s been a remarkably succesful Cvnt . 
I don’t know him but I follow Europeans politics closely . I’d heard of him long before Saints. I’ve read the news I’ve watched his interviews . You can still see some on YouTube you don’t even need to know the language . He’s really respected . He’s hated by some but generally because his company has been succesful in fucking the Russians off . Watch Putin interviews it takes a lot to fuck him off 

it’s our club I hate see them play like this but trust me things have been a lot worse . We were so screwed we couldn’t afford to pay staff the club was literally on the way out . We are nowhere near that .

im taking it on SR turning it around fucks remember how badly organised we were at the start of last season sure Wembley was great but over the whole season we didn’t deserve to go up . Yep it was all under SR  in a way that might be a good thing . I cannot see him walking .he was annoyed we didn’t get autos .

A lot of the current players might not be here next season . Spors was an inspired choice just cos a lot of you havnt heard of him a lot of big clubs were after him including Man U and Newcastle here . He knew what he was taking on he didn’t come here for a laugh he could have taken a cushty well paid job in Germany but his stuck his head on a block and come here. It’s probably a stepping stone but aren’t we always . If he’s here for a couple of years gets us promoted and stabilises us in the PL that will be good enough for me . 
im a Saints supporter and I genuinely believe sorted out we can easily become an attractive proposition again . 
 

take the piss all you like but at least I’ve thought about it and I’ve been proven wrong in the past but not always 

[Chez]

2 minutes ago, manji said:

 know bad decisions have been made but SR have spent a lot of money and  I suspect that’s exactly what Mr Solak is thinking “ all my money for this ? “ .

Dragon spent a big amount buying the company, but exactly how much has he invested since? I'm not criticising, I'm just asking. The club spending money on players isn't the same as Drago spending his own money on players.

[Dark Munster]

3 minutes ago, manji said:

Get the Cortese comment but can’t people see how a change would be even more disruptive ? There’s some really dodgy potential buyers out there . There would have been fans wetting themselves with excitement if " Sir Jimmy " Ratcliffe had taken over . I know bad decisions have been made but SR have spent a lot of money and  I suspect that’s exactly what Mr Solak is thinking “ all my money for this ? “ .

he could run or he can take it and sort it . Trust me he’s suffered as personally as any Saints fan on a different  level sure maybe even worse. I bet he can be a complete Cvnt but he’s been a remarkably succesful Cvnt . 
I don’t know him but I follow Europeans politics closely . I’d heard of him long before Saints. I’ve read the news I’ve watched his interviews . You can still see some on YouTube you don’t even need to know the language . He’s really respected . He’s hated by some but generally because his company has been succesful in fucking the Russians off . Watch Putin interviews it takes a lot to fuck him off 

it’s our club I hate see them play like this but trust me things have been a lot worse . We were so screwed we couldn’t afford to pay staff the club was literally on the way out . We are nowhere near that .

im taking it on SR turning it around fucks remember how badly organised we were at the start of last season sure Wembley was great but over the whole season we didn’t deserve to go up . Yep it was all under SR  in a way that might be a good thing . I cannot see him walking .he was annoyed we didn’t get autos .

A lot of the current players might not be here next season . Spors was an inspired choice just cos a lot of you havnt heard of him a lot of big clubs were after him including Man U and Newcastle here . He knew what he was taking on he didn’t come here for a laugh he could have taken a cushty well paid job in Germany but his stuck his head on a block and come here. It’s probably a stepping stone but aren’t we always . If he’s here for a couple of years gets us promoted and stabilises us in the PL that will be good enough for me . 
im a Saints supporter and I genuinely believe sorted out we can easily become an attractive proposition again . 
 

take the piss all you like but at least I’ve thought about it and I’ve been proven wrong in the past but not always 

It's not Dragan that I am furious with, he has indeed put in money (although he should've taken action earlier with the rest of the SR clowns who are responsible.)

Most of us are livid at Rasmus Ankersen, the chief architect of the clusterf*ck since SR took over. P*mpey fans must love him, maybe they'll give him the keys to their town and build a statue in his honour.

[manji]

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

Do you speak with a measure of itk? Rohl I hope. 

I don’t know this but yeah it would fit in. I’m not sure why Juvics here though it can have been one of two things he was just a long shot until we get Rohl and we had nothing to lose or (  an old political / business stunt ) just stick someone in there to shake things up. It doesn’t need to completely work it’s just a shake up . Spors with Rohl as manager sounds great to me and he be joining the club with a lot of the dirty work done unlike RM last season trying to do a work round not even knowing what players we would have left . 
that’s another thing that was forgotten about as were promoted. 

Edited 12 hours ago by manji

[Lee On Solent Saint]

1 minute ago, manji said:

I don’t know this but yeah it would fit in. I’m not sure why Juvics here though it can have been one of two things he was just a long shot until we get Rohl and we had nothing to lose or (  an old political / business stunt ) just stick someone in there to shake things up. It doesn’t need to completely work it’s just a shake up . Spors with Rohl as manager sounds great to me and he be joining the club with a lot of the dirty work dome unlike RM last season trying to do a work round not even knowing what players we would have left . 
that’s another thing that was forgotten about as were promoted. 

Would you still be so enthused about Rohl coming here had he not been here before? Seems like we are just swapping one mid to bottom end Championship manager in Martin for Rohl. 

[Fabrice29]

26 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

There is a reason for this. It was the total and utter lack of any sort of plan to play properly and competitively in the PL that has fucked us over. If you thought the basis of that team that struggled to get promoted was going to deliver in the PL then you are a fuckin idiot. Throw in a manager who would rather be best mates with the players and give them an easy ride then it was always going to be this way. Far too loyal to players and management. As a fan, I never expected to be watching my club like this, just waiting for the season to end. Football is supposed to be fun and enjoyable, everyone connected with Southampton, be it on the pitch, in the dugouts or in the boardroom have made this season the most gut wrenching season ever, and its still not over yet. So, by all means have a go at the fans, because as far as I'm concerned this club is fuckin lucky to still have people turn up each week home and away.  

I don't think detachment is on the fans. That's down to the actions the club has taken. I do think it manifesting itself in the form of the treatment of Smallbone and ABK is piss poor though and that is on the fans.

[manji]

3 minutes ago, Dark Munster said:

It's not Dragan that I am furious with, he has indeed put in money (although he should've taken action earlier with the rest of the SR clowns who are responsible.)

Most of us are livid at Rasmus Ankersen, the chief architect of the clusterf*ck since SR took over. P*mpey fans must love him, maybe they'll give him the keys to their town and build a statue in his honour.

I agree with that but I reckon Dragan was blinded by the success of Goztepe. He didn’t understand the viciousness of the Premier League . I’m full of opinions today but I fancy Rasmus has been told to get back in the box and worry about Goztepe. Again Rasmus wasn’t planned to be sort of in charge of Saints it was only because Wilcox dropped us in it by fvcking off near the start of the season.

[Fabrice29]

3 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Would you still be so enthused about Rohl coming here had he not been here before? Seems like we are just swapping one mid to bottom end Championship manager in Martin for Rohl. 

We got promoted with the last mid to bottom end Championship manager btw and next season again that would be success. Its almost as if where you finish with one team isn't necessarily an indicator of how you'll do with another and that success in the PL is about a bit more than who you have as a manager. If people want me to stop having a pop at fans, maybe the fans shouldn't say silly things.

[manji]

1 minute ago, Fabrice29 said:

I don't think detachment is on the fans. That's down to the actions the club has taken. I do think it manifesting itself in the form of the treatment of Smallbone and ABK is piss poor though and that is on the fans.

They can’t do big picture and need someone to direct thier anger Smallbone though as dedicated a player as you can get don’t forget RM had to get him off social media last season Smallbone is an easy target for the dumb he doesn’t look like a footballer even before he gets on the pitch. He looks wimpish . Bet he isn’t though. 

 

[manji]

3 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

We got promoted with the last mid to bottom end Championship manager btw and next season again that would be success. Its almost as if where you finish with one team isn't necessarily an indicator of how you'll do with another and that success in the PL is about a bit more than who you have as a manager. If people want me to stop having a pop at fans, maybe the fans shouldn't say silly things.

Good answer but far too complicated for the mob. 

[manji]

11 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Would you still be so enthused about Rohl coming here had he not been here before? Seems like we are just swapping one mid to bottom end Championship manager in Martin for Rohl. 

I’m not enthused about Rohl but eventually a bigger club are going to take a chance with him. Maybe I’m clutching at straws but I don’t think so . I have no idea if Rohl is coming but if he does he will have had plenty of time to think about it . Maybe it’s a. “ fuck that and I couldn’t handle it " .

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, S-Clarke said:

Do you actually ever have a view on the games or the club it's self, or do you use this forum as place to voice your disgust at the fans?

I'm not sure who you are, but my guess is that you're some sort of a club-bot with no fan connection. It's the only conclusion I can bring myself to your weird posting style.

https://www.johnsoncleaners.com/branch/southampton-waitrose

[Badger]

1 hour ago, die Mannyschaft said:

Oh well at least we will definitely break Derby's record. At least we will have achieved something,  will thd be a trophy handed to Saints last game season! I hope so.

The legacy of Russell Martin, and the dickheads who kept him here too long.

1 hour ago, BotleySaint said:

It has been very poor under Juric. So much that I think we'd probably have more points under Martin. 

No. Things had turned sour in his last few weeks. Had to go. Problem being that we were left with a piss poor squad, that no one would touch. 

[madge]

In the 40 odd years of watching saints there has been some really poor teams, but they generally were competitive. But this has to be the most uncompetitive and disfunctional squad we’ve ever had. Sports republic obviously expected to go down as their incompetence over the summer in the transfer window and their belief that this squad would have competitive just smacks of stupidity.  Not sure we respond over the summer but one thing the ownership need to do is address the fans, apologise for this seasons disaster and offer season ticket holders a good enough incentive to renew, but alas they won’t as they appear completely disconnected to their fan base.

[Badger]

1 hour ago, Monk said:

Ever since we switched to Puma. 

 All part of the Willcox masterplan to turn us into City lite. 

[Appy]

This is definitely the worst all round team I’ve seen at the club, in terms of competing. Even the bunch of kids under the Dutch duo gave a better showing in their league than these bunch of losers. 

Edited 12 hours ago by Appy

[Badger]

31 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Would you still be so enthused about Rohl coming here had he not been here before? Seems like we are just swapping one mid to bottom end Championship manager in Martin for Rohl. 

There are several reasons people are more inclined to see Rohl as a better option (as well as his links with Ralph):

He has improved his current club from relegation certainties to play off contenders, with limited funding. RM saw no improvement at his clubs.

Since leaving he’s been at Bayern Munich, and the German national team   ( even if only as assistant to Flick). But more impressive than MK Dons and Swansea. 

He isn’t wedded to possession football for the sake of it.

Finally, he doesn’t come across as an egotistical bellend. 

[Jonnyboy]

My first Juric match in the flesh. What a shocker. Wellington looked lively, that's about it.

Respect to the fans who are keeping the stadium full all season!

[Badger]

53 minutes ago, manji said:

Get the Cortese comment but can’t people see how a change would be even more disruptive ? There’s some really dodgy potential buyers out there . There would have been fans wetting themselves with excitement if " Sir Jimmy " Ratcliffe had taken over . I know bad decisions have been made but SR have spent a lot of money and  I suspect that’s exactly what Mr Solak is thinking “ all my money for this ? “ .

he could run or he can take it and sort it . Trust me he’s suffered as personally as any Saints fan on a different  level sure maybe even worse. I bet he can be a complete Cvnt but he’s been a remarkably succesful Cvnt . 
I don’t know him but I follow Europeans politics closely . I’d heard of him long before Saints. I’ve read the news I’ve watched his interviews . You can still see some on YouTube you don’t even need to know the language . He’s really respected . He’s hated by some but generally because his company has been succesful in fucking the Russians off . Watch Putin interviews it takes a lot to fuck him off 

it’s our club I hate see them play like this but trust me things have been a lot worse . We were so screwed we couldn’t afford to pay staff the club was literally on the way out . We are nowhere near that .

im taking it on SR turning it around fucks remember how badly organised we were at the start of last season sure Wembley was great but over the whole season we didn’t deserve to go up . Yep it was all under SR  in a way that might be a good thing . I cannot see him walking .he was annoyed we didn’t get autos .

A lot of the current players might not be here next season . Spors was an inspired choice just cos a lot of you havnt heard of him a lot of big clubs were after him including Man U and Newcastle here . He knew what he was taking on he didn’t come here for a laugh he could have taken a cushty well paid job in Germany but his stuck his head on a block and come here. It’s probably a stepping stone but aren’t we always . If he’s here for a couple of years gets us promoted and stabilises us in the PL that will be good enough for me . 
im a Saints supporter and I genuinely believe sorted out we can easily become an attractive proposition again . 
 

take the piss all you like but at least I’ve thought about it and I’ve been proven wrong in the past but not always 

Some good points in here. Remarkable how Ratcliffe hasn’t turned out a saviour at Old Trafford (although some on here predicted it).

can only hope Dragan, and Spors live up to expectation. 

[LiberalCommunist]

I actually miss Russel Martin gaslighting me after that defeat. This Ivor guy is a impostor. I wouldn't let him manage a newspaper round. Disgraceful in ever department today. Bet the tea lady forget the fucking tea bags at half time as well.........

[rallyboy]

Too much doom and gloom on here, it wasn't that bad, the bloke who hit the crossbar at halftime was my MoM.

[spyinthesky]

17 minutes ago, Jonnyboy said:

My first Juric match in the flesh. What a shocker. Wellington looked lively, that's about it.

Respect to the fans who are keeping the stadium full all season!

And for the second time in a row, Juric replaced Welington at Half Time