Ipswich 1-2 Saints - Match Thread

[trousers]

21 minutes ago, Saint Scott said:

Dibling, Sulemana and Ramsdale fit.

Welington to feature

And Juric also said that he "likes Stephens a lot".... 

[trousers]

https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/news/article/juric-shares-positive-squad-news-for-ipswich-trip

Southampton manager Ivan Jurić has offered a positive update on several members of his squad ahead of Saturday's trip to Ipswich Town.

After fielding several questions on injured players in recent weeks, Saints' boss was pleased to share news on a handful of potential returns to action, with Kamaldeen Sulemana and Tyler Dibling notably ready for selection again.

"Kamaldeen and Dibling trained today with us, and they will be with us [for Ipswich.]" Jurić explained, before adding further reassurance on Dibling's availability.

"[Tyler] has recovered already, he did training today and I think he'll be ready."

In further positive news, the Croatian hinted at goalkeeper Aaron Ramsdale's return with only minor issues for other members of the squad.

"Rambo did one part of the training today, and tomorrow I think he'll be okay. We had problems with [Ryan] Fraser and Woody [Nathan Wood], not big ones but they will be out for this one."

Jurić also shared updates on the potential return of Jack Stephens, with new signings Welington and Albert Grønbæk also in line for their first Saints inclusions.

"I'm a very happy guy that Stephens is with us, the [medical team] did a great job, because he did two trainings with no problems and sometimes it's not like this, so he's done very well. He's a quality player, a competitive player and he can give us a lot.

"[Albert] did a good week, he's a very interesting player because he's quick, very good technique, he had a good week and maybe he can play.

"Now I know [Welington] better, he's trained really well and we might can him a chance against Ipswich during the match. I think he can become a really good player for us."

[Lee On Solent Saint]

38 minutes ago, trousers said:

And Juric also said that he "likes Stephens a lot".... 

Another manager blindsided by Stephens.

[SNSUN]

Dibling and Supermana back - Ipswich won't know what hit 'em. Win 2 of the season coming up. Race for 19th place is on. 

[Whitey Grandad]

2 hours ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Another manager blindsided by Stephens.

What on earth does he have over them?

[S-Clarke]

I remember that Championship game against them (back in 2011). It was early in the season but that was the game where I thought, hang on, we've got something unbelievable brewing here. 

We absolutley tore them to pieces. 

[CamSaint]

13 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I remember that Championship game against them (back in 2011). It was early in the season but that was the game where I thought, hang on, we've got something unbelievable brewing here. 

We absolutley tore them to pieces. 

That was a brilliant night and a great atmosphere. Saints played some scintillating football.

[SNSUN]

 

Lest we forget…

[Hayling Saint]

4 minutes ago, SNSUN said:

 

Lest we forget…

I was there for this one in the Kingsland , right behind it.

[Chez]

18 hours ago, trousers said:

https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/news/article/juric-shares-positive-squad-news-for-ipswich-trip

Southampton manager Ivan Jurić has offered a positive update on several members of his squad ahead of Saturday's trip to Ipswich Town.

After fielding several questions on injured players in recent weeks, Saints' boss was pleased to share news on a handful of potential returns to action, with Kamaldeen Sulemana and Tyler Dibling notably ready for selection again.

"Kamaldeen and Dibling trained today with us, and they will be with us [for Ipswich.]" Jurić explained, before adding further reassurance on Dibling's availability.

"[Tyler] has recovered already, he did training today and I think he'll be ready."

In further positive news, the Croatian hinted at goalkeeper Aaron Ramsdale's return with only minor issues for other members of the squad.

"Rambo did one part of the training today, and tomorrow I think he'll be okay. We had problems with [Ryan] Fraser and Woody [Nathan Wood], not big ones but they will be out for this one."

Jurić also shared updates on the potential return of Jack Stephens, with new signings Welington and Albert Grønbæk also in line for their first Saints inclusions.

"I'm a very happy guy that Stephens is with us, the [medical team] did a great job, because he did two trainings with no problems and sometimes it's not like this, so he's done very well. He's a quality player, a competitive player and he can give us a lot.

"[Albert] did a good week, he's a very interesting player because he's quick, very good technique, he had a good week and maybe he can play.

"Now I know [Welington] better, he's trained really well and we might can him a chance against Ipswich during the match. I think he can become a really good player for us."

Very positive about Wellington. Looking forward to seeing him play. I'm not expecting the next Roberto Carlos, but an attacking fullback with pace and ball skills would be nice.

[CylonKing]

I remember the 2-5 game really well. I was in a Super 8 in Houston and kept having to run to reception to check the score on the customer desktop PC (this was before wi-fi was everywhere days) and couldn't believe it.

I have a sneaky feeling about this one as well. Think we'll weather the storm and take some points here. Going for 1-3. It has to click at some time, surely!?

Edited Friday at 08:27 by CylonKing

[benjii]

11 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

I remember that Championship game against them (back in 2011). It was early in the season but that was the game where I thought, hang on, we've got something unbelievable brewing here. 

We absolutley tore them to pieces. 

Same. I wasn't there but I remember the evening clearly.

[Lighthouse]

1 hour ago, CylonKing said:

I remember the 2-5 game really well. I was in a Super 8 in Houston and kept having to run to reception to check the score on the customer desktop PC (this was before wi-fi was everywhere days) and couldn't believe it.

I have a sneaky feeling about this one as well. Think we'll weather the storm and take some points here. Going for 1-3. It has to click at some time, surely!?

It’s clicking but in the same way that my ankles click when I get out of bed every morning.

[Gooderz]

On 17/01/2025 at 23:58, Pamplemousse said:

They're good on the counter attack, we need to sit in for 90 minutes and let them try to break us down.

 

On 30/01/2025 at 21:47, jasonbenali said:

If I remember rightly we've battered Ipswich 3 games in a row and not won any of them (edit: the 1-1 felt like a loss at the time). Would love it if we have a shocker and they hit the bar 5 times and then they score a last minute own goal for a filthy 0-1 win to Saints #karma

we,re not keeping a clean sheet 

 

[Gooderz]

Just now, Gooderz said:

 

we,re not keeping a clean sheet 

 

One of those efforts that hits the bar will deflect into the net of a defender , probably Stephens who's just come on to tighten things up 

[spyinthesky]

Just wonder if any of my fellow old stagers on here remember us beating Ipswich 7-0 in an FA Cup game back in the 1960's?

Think we were 6-0 up at Half time.

[Maggie May]

Looking forward to seeing the Duke in action. 

[Dr. Kucho]

18 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

I remember that Championship game against them (back in 2011). It was early in the season but that was the game where I thought, hang on, we've got something unbelievable brewing here. 

We absolutley tore them to pieces. 

If I remember rightly Schneiderlin played a great assist for one of the goals. If that had been a City or Liverpool player doing that the pundits would be going on for ages about it. 

[TheAlehouseBrawlers]

4 hours ago, spyinthesky said:

Just wonder if any of my fellow old stagers on here remember us beating Ipswich 7-0 in an FA Cup game back in the 1960's?

Think we were 6-0 up at Half time.

Just before my time but I do remember us getting done 7-0 at their place early 70s, not that long after the 7-0 at Elland Road and an 8-0 drubbing at Goodison. I'd only been going a few years then and already knew it was never going to be easy supporting this football club (I've been away at Watford and Spurs for similar sorry shows).

[Midfield_General]

17 hours ago, Hayling Saint said:

I was there for this one in the Kingsland , right behind it.

Me too. One of those where the second it left his boot you just instantly thought 'that's in'. Then bam, hits the top corner while still rising. Beautiful. 

[macca155]

On 30/01/2025 at 14:38, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Another manager blindsided by Stephens.

Or maybe, just maybe, they see a decent competitive footballer who won't let them down.

The dogs abuse he gets on here is totally unwarranted.

The two sendings off were stupid and he deserved stick for that, but he's no worse or better than any of our other defenders.

[Disco Stu]

10 minutes ago, macca155 said:

Or maybe, just maybe, they see a decent competitive footballer who won't let them down.

The dogs abuse he gets on here is totally unwarranted.

The two sendings off were stupid and he deserved stick for that, but he's no worse or better than any of our other defenders.

The two stupid sending offs and subsequent suspensions let down his manager, teammates, fans... and was not worthy of someone wearing the captain's armband.

Suspensions for verbal abuse and hair pulling is so unprofessional, he's done nothing but let us down this season.

Edited Friday at 19:55 by Disco Stu

[Matty's Caddy]

So Saturday night out in Ipswich…. Any ideas? Good? Bad? Ugly? All comments appreciated 

[Lighthouse]

31 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

The two stupid sending offs and subsequent suspensions let down his manager, teammates, fans... and was not worthy of someone wearing the captain's armband.

Suspensions for verbal abuse and hair pulling is so unprofessional, he's done nothing but let us down this season.

I agree, there's nobody in our squad who's let the club down more than Stephens this season. Everyone else, as crap as most of them are, is trying trying their best and basically playing at the peak of their abilities, ABK excluded. Being suspended for nine games (ten if you included the minutes he missed in the games he was s/o) in half a season is just pathetic.

[Harry_SFC]

1 hour ago, macca155 said:

Or maybe, just maybe, they see a decent competitive footballer who won't let them down.

The dogs abuse he gets on here is totally unwarranted.

The two sendings off were stupid and he deserved stick for that, but he's no worse or better than any of our other defenders.

Sorry but I just can't agree with this post. He's let us down massively this season. In terms of ability, he's definitely worse than THB and Bednarek and they aren't great.

Edited Friday at 21:02 by Harry_SFC

[hypochondriac]

2 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

Sorry but I just can't agree with this post. He's let us down massively this season. In terms of ability, he's definitely worse than THB and Bednarek and they aren't great.

Agreed. He was also our captain and supposed to lead by example so he's got a greater responsibility than the players might. 

[Saint in Paradise]

Quote  "but he's no worse or better than any of our other defenders."

Well sorry but that isn't as good a statement as the OP might think as let's face it the standard is pretty low.

I have been told by a couple of mates who support other teams that it's only top of League One standard.

 

[Jack]

5 hours ago, Matty's Caddy said:

So Saturday night out in Ipswich…. Any ideas? Good? Bad? Ugly? All comments appreciated 

Bit of a shithole really but it is what you make it. We’ll be going to plenty of shithole aways next season 

[FarehamSaintJames]

On 30/01/2025 at 13:59, trousers said:

And Juric also said that he "likes Stephens a lot".... 

That’s a sackable offence right there.

[John B]

21 hours ago, spyinthesky said:

Just wonder if any of my fellow old stagers on here remember us beating Ipswich 7-0 in an FA Cup game back in the 1960's?

Think we were 6-0 up at Half time.

It was actually 7 1 I think I heard the result on on the bus returning from Twickenham where England lost to South Africa

I wouldbe a surprise if we won 7 1 today  more likely a loss like the defeat I watched over 20 years ago after an early Beattie goal think we would have drawn except for a brilliant save from Richard Wright when Rossler should have scored

 

[rallyboy]

If we're serious about staying up we could probably do with getting something today.

[Gloucester Saint]

17 hours ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said:

Just before my time but I do remember us getting done 7-0 at their place early 70s, not that long after the 7-0 at Elland Road and an 8-0 drubbing at Goodison. I'd only been going a few years then and already knew it was never going to be easy supporting this football club (I've been away at Watford and Spurs for similar sorry shows).

1974 

The 8-0 at Everton was May 1971, last act of their midfield ‘Holy Trinity’ https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/day-everton-fc-thrashed-southampton-3360659

Edited Saturday at 09:56 by Gloucester Saint

[Football Special]

13 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

1974 

The 8-0 at Everton was May 1971, last act of their midfield ‘Holy Trinity’ https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/day-everton-fc-thrashed-southampton-3360659

Awful defending, clear lack of effort, manager has lost the dressing room there, Ted Bates Out 

[Gloucester Saint]

8 minutes ago, Football Special said:

Awful defending, clear lack of effort, manager has lost the dressing room there, Ted Bates Out 

Saints’s league performance was interesting in the late 1960s and very early 1970s - either staying up one season with lots of heavy defeats and top seven and Europe the next. 1972/23 was an outlier with bang average 13th and then relegation 1973/74 with Lawrie taking over from Ted mid-season
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-southampton/platzierungen/verein/180

Do fans who watched us then remember broadly why? Was it literally Ron Davies having a couple of stunning seasons and losing form? Goalkeepers coming and going?

Edited Saturday at 10:17 by Gloucester Saint

[SNSUN]

35 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

If we're serious about staying up we could probably do with getting something today.

If Wellington and Gronbaek turn out to be the best signings we've ever made, Sulemana continues his hot streak and stays injury free, Dibling becomes our best academy prospect of all time, Lesley becomes our defensive midfield powerhouse we've been craving for years, KWP stays, THB becomes the England quality centre back we all hoped he would be and Onuachu starts regularly banging in goals, then I genuinely think we have a chance of survival.

What, it could happen, right... 😜

[TheAlehouseBrawlers]

17 minutes ago, Football Special said:

Awful defending, clear lack of effort, manager has lost the dressing room there, Ted Bates Out 

McMenemy Out...he'd already taken over

13 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Saints’s league performance was interesting in the late 1960s and very early 1970s - either staying up one season with lots of heavy defeats and top seven and Europe the next. 1972/23 was an outlier with bang average 13th and then relegation 1973/74 with Lawrie taking over from Ted mid-season
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-southampton/platzierungen/verein/180

Do fans who watched us then remember broadly why? Was it literally Ron Davies having a couple of stunning seasons and losing form? Goalkeepers coming and going?

I started going regularly the season after the 8-0 at Goodison but I was hooked and just kind of accepted we were good one week, shit the next. But we were at least about to go on a more enjoyable era, beating probably the best young side in England at the time to win the cup as a second division side, unlucky to go out of Europe the following season in the quarters and promotion the next. That season saw us reach Wembley again in the League Cup Final and it wasn't long before we were signing Keegan (to go with numerous other big name signings in that era) and then finishing runners-up for the title. Good times for a while.

[trousers]

8 minutes ago, SNSUN said:

If Wellington and Gronbaek turn out to be the best signings we've ever made, Sulemana continues his hot streak and stays injury free, Dibling becomes our best academy prospect of all time, Lesley becomes our defensive midfield powerhouse we've been craving for years, KWP stays, THB becomes the England quality centre back we all hoped he would be and Onuachu starts regularly banging in goals, then I genuinely think we have a chance of survival.

What, it could happen, right... 😜

 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

15 hours ago, macca155 said:

Or maybe, just maybe, they see a decent competitive footballer who won't let them down.

The dogs abuse he gets on here is totally unwarranted.

The two sendings off were stupid and he deserved stick for that, but he's no worse or better than any of our other defenders.

Decent? Competitive? Someone who won't let you down? Sorry, that is complete horseshit. Guy is a totally liability at this level, he wasn't even that great in the Championship either. The sendings off were beyond stupid and the reaction he gave after the United sending off for a supposd captain was pathetic. Don't even get me started on the hair pulling dismissal. 

[davefizzy14]

Let's get a victory today - COYR 😊 hoping ABK comes in 😊 Welington and Gronbaek debuts potentially 😊 Tyler, Sulemana and Ramsdale back 😊 we are looking so much stronger. 

Edited Saturday at 12:05 by davefizzy14

[Saint NL]

Massive upgrade in prospects for this one.

Instead of the usual "certain to lose", I'm feeling this one goes up as high as the "probably will lose" category. 

It's a start 

[Chez]

56 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said:

Let's get a victory today - COYR 😊 hoping ABK comes in 😊 Welington and Gronbaek debuts potentially 😊 Tyler, Sulemana and Ramsdale back 😊 we are looking so much stronger. 

love your optimism Dave. Keep on keeping on. We certainly look stronger than last week.

[davefizzy14]

21 minutes ago, Chez said:

love your optimism Dave. Keep on keeping on. We certainly look stronger than last week.

Yeah exactly we do 😊

[St. Ciervo]

Both fan bases are going in expecting a win. I think we will play better than we did earlier in the year. We will not be faffing around at the back and giving up cheap goals as easily. 2-1 Saints win. Would have been 3-1, but we must get f-ed by VAR at least once -- obviously.

[Saint Scott]

 

[ErwinK1961]

2 minutes ago, Saint Scott said:

 

No Downes at all? Injured again or sulking? (Or is he suspended and I’ve totally missed that)

[Lee On Solent Saint]

1 minute ago, ErwinK1961 said:

No Downes at all? Injured again or sulking? (Or is he suspended and I’ve totally missed that)

No Archer either. Not even on the bench.

[Lard]

Remember the love in and clamour for Downes?….West Ham sold us a dud.they knew. 

[Colinjb]

Finally, someone to put a boot in.

 

[ErwinK1961]

2 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

No Archer either. Not even on the bench.

Good point, missed that. 

[Obstacle1]

Is Wellington a left or right back? And who plays as the most advanced midfielder, likely to be Groenbak?