Ipswich 1-2 Saints - Match Thread

[LaptopSaint]

Plough that with your fucking tractor 🚜 

[Miltonaggro]

2 minutes ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said:

Beat them and we shake the Derby monkey off our back. Nice incentive for the players and, particularly, fans.

Gutted about today, had money on us for a 1-3 away victory. I'll get over it.

Never mind AB, optimism with saints is always expensive. 

[ButtikonSaint]

Just now, OneMrsWallace said:

Positives - a win and JS having to go off.

How did the two debutants do? 

Wellington - 8/10...  Looks like a winner - fast, physical, good positioning
Gronbaek - 5 maybe 6/10... couple of decent touches but nothing spectacular. Sulemana showed a lot more in his 10-15 mins.

[HKsaint]

Finally, we still need Sulemana and Tall Paul to win. 

[Convict Colony]

58 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

Smallbone, brilliant. There goes our hope of a point.

you were right 

[NewYorkSaint]

Mathematically, there's a reasonable chance this year that the we break the prior record for low points needed to survive (34 pts).  With a big gap above the bottom four, it's just possible that 30-31 pts cd do it. So... all we need are 6 wins and 3 draws.... easy peasy!

[DT]

No Adam Armstrong. A win. Could there be a correlation here?

so good not seeing him jog around, aimlessly

well done saints

[Farmer Saint]

5 minutes ago, LaptopSaint said:

Plough that with your fucking tractor 🚜 

Ahem...

[jasonbenali]

Absolute karma win after Ipswich's late goals against us. Thought it was very even and for once Saints were clinical which ultimately was the difference.

If we can tighten that gap in the middle of the defence that Ipswich could drive a tractor through, then we look OK and at times we harried them really well (at times not). Not sure what ABK has to do to get a game as his pace and strength would really help.

MOTM was Fernandes - he was immense in the press and really took the pressure off at the end bring the ball out.

Derby County we're coming for you!!

[Ralph Fastenbüttl]

38 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

FFS get Onoachu off!

37 minutes ago, captainchris said:

What onacho doing on the pitch ??? 
Hime and Badnarik terrible! 

32 minutes ago, washsaint said:

It's official.  Ali Dia > Tall Paul.  How this guy plays professional football I'll never know.  ABsolute rubbish.

How dare you sully the name of the Mighty Tall Paul, official Club Hero and Champion?!?!

[SaintsBarry74]

Just now, jasonbenali said:

Absolute karma win after Ipswich's late goals against us. Thought it was very even and for once Saints were clinical which ultimately was the difference.

If we can tighten that gap in the middle of the defence that Ipswich could drive a tractor through, then we look OK and at times we harried them really well (at times not). Not sure what ABK has to do to get a game as his pace and strength would really help.

MOTM was Fernandes - he was immense in the press and really took the pressure off at the end bring the ball out.

Derby County we're coming for you!!

Sod Derby, we're going for survival! When the Saints go marching in mofos!!

[Badger]

2 minutes ago, LaptopSaint said:

Plough that with your fucking tractor 🚜 

Yes, reading that reminded me of some fat cunt in a blue shirt in the home end upper section behind the goal last season who thought he was the dogs bollocks gesturing  during the game. Delighted to beat them just to get at that prick.

 

[lambtiss]

41 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

FFS get Onoachu off!

😅

[Farmer Saint]

4 minutes ago, NewYorkSaint said:

Mathematically, there's a reasonable chance this year that the we break the prior record for low points needed to survive (34 pts).  With a big gap above the bottom four, it's just possible that 30-31 pts cd do it. So... all we need are 6 wins and 3 draws.... easy peasy!

26 will do it this season imo

[Toussaint]

New heroes 

[Viking Saint]

26 minutes ago, coalman said:

The lesson here is get Smallbone and Stephens on, clearly.

More accurate is to get Stephens off as quickly as possible

[Saint NL]

2 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

New heroes 

Is one of them Arsene Wenger?

[saint francis]

We need to stop the tactic of hoofing it towards Onachu to hold up - it's not working.  All game I wanted him replaced - then he goes and gets the winner.    

Aribo again lacks creativity but good defensively and took his goal well.  Aribo CAN hold the ball up when needed to - perhaps go with him if we are to play that game.

We looked a more dangerous team with Sulemana in it IMO.  

We need to try and get Fernandes into games a bit more, very creative and attack-minded.  

[Colinjb]

1 minute ago, Viking Saint said:

More accurate is to get Stephens off as quickly as possible

Resisting the urge to make an inappropriate joke....

But, my goodness. Almost forgotten what this winning feeling felt like.

[manji]

30 minutes ago, coalman said:

Baz would've been chuffed with that weak push back out to the striker.

We were winning and still you manage to find some dumb comment about a guy that isn’t even playing . What do you get out of that. Thank fuck the fans that made the journey don’t think like that.

[Chez]

4 minutes ago, jasonbenali said:

If we can tighten that gap in the middle of the defence that Ipswich could drive a tractor through, then we look OK and at times we harried them really well (at times not). Not sure what ABK has to do to get a game as his pace and strength would really help.

 

Thought Delap ragdolled Bednarek a couple of times and turned him with ease. He's a good player and powerful lad, but I don't expect my cbs to be outmuscled. We have too many CBs that simply don't have the basic attributes required. Not easy to find players that AND can play too, but that needs solving in the next 18 months.

[BotleySaint]

At least there is a glimmer of hope that we might beat the Derby record.

Just need to get 3 more points and I'll be happy.

Sad state of affairs when I'll be happy being bottom, miles adrift, but just glad to beat the worst possible record.

[Baird of the land]

Just now, saint francis said:

We need to stop the tactic of hoofing it towards Onachu to hold up - it's not working.  All game I wanted him replaced - then he goes and gets the winner.    

Aribo again lacks creativity but good defensively and took his goal well.  Aribo CAN hold the ball up when needed to - perhaps go with him if we are to play that game.

We looked a more dangerous team with Sulemana in it IMO.  

We need to try and get Fernandes into games a bit more, very creative and attack-minded.  

Disagree I thought he did a pretty good job of holding the ball up. What we need to do is react better together around him for the 2nd ball.

[adrian lord]

2 hours ago, adrian lord said:

Win here, and the Greatest Escape is on. 

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[Vancouver Saint]

Yea, a win! Happy for Juric and the team. Watching two well-matched Championship teams here, but what was clear was the players putting a real shift in for the manager despite our position. Thought both our debutants showed promise. Fresh blood with no baggage made a difference.

Lots of adversity with injuries and forced changes and we kept going.

Joe Aribo my MOTM.

We need a new, big CB or two - you'd have thought Juric cou;ld've found a Croatian hard-man CB...don't they specialise in those?

[Midfield_General]

Onuachu was getting stick on here, and my stream was terrible so it was hard to properly see what was going on, but in between bouts of buffering and hot grannies in my area it looked like he won more than his fair share of headers when it was lumped up to him, and just needed someone closer to him picking up the second ball a bit more. Plus of course he reacted well to knock in the winner. Looked like he did alright, all told. 

Edited Saturday at 17:34 by Midfield_General

[Toussaint]

1 minute ago, Midfield_General said:

Onuachu was getting stick on here, and my stream was terrible so it was hard to properly see what was going on, but in between bouts of buffering and hot grannies in my area it looked like Onuachu won more than his fair share of headers when it was lumped up to him, and just needed someone closer to him picking up the second ball a bit more.

He had a really good game, I’m not sure why he would get stick?

[Chez]

1 minute ago, Baird of the land said:

Disagree I thought he did a pretty good job of holding the ball up. What we need to do is react better together around him for the 2nd ball.

I didn't think the ball stuck that much. The odd time, but not enough.  He looked tired from about 55 minutes. The press was non existent from him.  However, he's in the box when the balls falls - and in the end that's what won this game. A lot of his goals in Belgium and Turkey were like the one he scored today. I will never be a big fan, but if you want to score, you have to get in the danger area and he does that all the time. Not all our strikers do.

[Farmer Saint]

1 minute ago, Toussaint said:

He had a really good game, I’m not sure why he would get stick?

Because a lot of our fans on here are fucking clueless, I think that's why.

[trousers]

1 minute ago, Farmer Saint said:

Because a lot of our fans on here are fucking clueless, I think that's why.

Agree. Some even backed Martin's decision not to play him at all....

[Convict Colony]

31 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

Special shout out to Wellington, he looked decent. Hopefully a lot more to come from him.

finally a left back who can put in a decent cross

[Midfield_General]

7 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

He had a really good game, I’m not sure why he would get stick?

That's my point - I'm not sure why either, because he looked to be putting himself about, winning his duels and doing fine, as well as winning the game for us with his goal, but look back through the match thread and he's getting all sorts of shit

Edited Saturday at 17:41 by Midfield_General

[Nolan]

Groenbæk and Welington. 100% win rate

Edited Saturday at 17:41 by Nolan

[lambtiss]

Saints win, Bournemouth and Brighton beaten, Portsmouth failed to win at home. Just need an England win in Dublin to make it a perfect day

[Baird of the land]

2 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

That's my point - I'm not sure why either, because he looked to be putting himself about, winning his duels and doing fine, as well as winning the game for us with his goal, but look back through the match thread and he's getting all sorts of shit

I think it’s because an old fashioned target man isn’t very sexy.

[BARCELONASAINT]

I thought the new lads did well, Wellington in particular. Both will good for us in the Championship next season if we keep them. Good to bloody win again and to beat those irritating bumpkins! 

[Convict Colony]

Honestly i am stoked with that, really felt good today when i saw the team.

Liked everything about wellington, fast, works hard both ways, put in crosses into areas where our players were and had that brazilian touch about everything but most of all he wore short sleeves no gloves in feb, proper hardman.

Also people really down playing the 2nd goal, great work from sully, muric was moving away and hence only got back to palm but that goal was all about tall pauls anticipation and taking a chance something we have been asking our strikers to do for ages.

Take that you Ed Sheeran loving cunts, our european push begins now.

 

[SambaMaverick]

6 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

That's my point - I'm not sure why either, because he looked to be putting himself about, winning his duels and doing fine, as well as winning the game for us with his goal, but look back through the match thread and he's getting all sorts of shit

It's because he isn't very good

Fair play to him for the winner but he's a gimmick and cannot be on the team sheet in this league

[manji]

11 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Because a lot of our fans on here are fucking clueless, I think that's why.

That’s the truth. 

[Nieldy]

What a day.Southampton win and Diaz even scores.

[Toussaint]

3 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said:

It's because he isn't very good

Fair play to him for the winner but he's a gimmick and cannot be on the team sheet in this league

He’s fast in a straight line, very strong, great attitude, good with his feet, causes panic in opposition defences and has scored two goals in the last three games and you want him dropped?

[Chez]

12 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Also people really down playing the 2nd goal, great work from sully

 

it was, and some statistical "end product" for those that don't think beating several men and getting a dangerous cross counts.

Edited Saturday at 17:59 by Chez

[SambaMaverick]

3 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

He’s fast in a straight line, very strong, great attitude, good with his feet, causes panic in opposition defences and has scored two goals in the last three games and you want him dropped?

Maybe I've gone completely mental... Or maybe everyone's changing with the wind now he's scored a winner...

The guy looks like a pub player, and the stats from today 100% back me up. He didn't win duels, he's wasteful - but he scored the winner.

You can't drop him after scoring a winner, but the fact that he's ended up our best striker this season is directly correlated to us being a waste of space.

He is absolutely NOT 'fast in a straight line'. Just because it looks like he's in pain, doesn't make it quick.

Edited Saturday at 17:57 by SambaMaverick

[S-Clarke]

What is this odd feeling I have? I'm not sure what to do. I've not felt like this after 5 on a Saturday for some time.

Looking at it objectively, I thought that was a showing of two pretty poor teams. The second half became more of a slog and I think that suited Juric a bit more. 

I'm still not keen on the 3 at the back, and I think it's confusing THB. He was charging forward so much and leaving the other two (or usually Bednarek) totally exposed, and that's why we let Delap run through free. 

I really enjoyed Wellingtons performance though, he reminded me of Bertrand in his style. It'll be interesting to see how he gets on over the coming weeks.

Nice to finally get closer to that Derby point total though, maybe, just maybe, we'll end up getting enough points to avoid that embarrassment now.

[Toussaint]

1 minute ago, SambaMaverick said:

Maybe I've gone completely mental... Or maybe everyone's changing with the wind now he's scored a winner...

The guy looks like a pub player, and the stats from today 100% back me up. He didn't win duels, he's wasteful - but he scored the winner.

You can't drop him after scoring a winner, but the fact that he's ended up our best striker this season is directly correlated to us being a waste of space.

I don’t think people are necessarily changing with the wind, not that there is anything wrong with changing your mind, but there has always been a lot of support for him on here and a lot of us thought Martin wasn’t giving him a fair go. 

[Chez]

7 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

He’s fast in a straight line, very strong, great attitude, good with his feet, causes panic in opposition defences and has scored two goals in the last three games and you want him dropped?

Until I read the part about the two the goals I wondered who you were talking about. Is that straight line heading vertically down?

[Harry_SFC]

6 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

I don’t think people are necessarily changing with the wind, not that there is anything wrong with changing your mind, but there has always been a lot of support for him on here and a lot of us thought Martin wasn’t giving him a fair go. 

He is a pretty limited player overall but I still think he'll score goals if you give him the service inside the box. 

Edited Saturday at 18:05 by Harry_SFC

[Convict Colony]

18 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said:

Maybe I've gone completely mental... Or maybe everyone's changing with the wind now he's scored a winner...

The guy looks like a pub player, and the stats from today 100% back me up. He didn't win duels, he's wasteful - but he scored the winner.

You can't drop him after scoring a winner, but the fact that he's ended up our best striker this season is directly correlated to us being a waste of space.

He is absolutely NOT 'fast in a straight line'. Just because it looks like he's in pain, doesn't make it quick.

Edited Saturday at 18:15 by Convict Colony

[badgerx16]

1 minute ago, Harry_SFC said:

He is a pretty limited player overall but I still think he'll score goals if you give him the service inside the box. 

Plenty of top class strikers have been 'limited' in other aspects of their play and other areas of the pitch.

[Saint NL]

10 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said:

Maybe I've gone completely mental... Or maybe everyone's changing with the wind now he's scored a winner...

I think it's clear to see that he's a pretty poor player, but he seems to be the best option we have.