spyinthesky Posted Sunday at 18:43 Posted Sunday at 18:43 Possible Draws Expected Losses Ipswich (A) Bournemouth (H) Brighton (H) Chelsea (A) Wolves (H) Liverpool (A) Palace (H) Spurs (A) Villa (H) Man City (H) W Ham (A) Arsenal (H) Fulham (H) Leicester (A) Everton (A) I am a a self confessed Negative Nellie but if the team cant get six draws or one win and three draws from 15 games that may be a scar that many will never recover from. Winning two games would be a minor miracle the way we are playing at the moment. 1
woodsaint1 Posted Sunday at 19:06 Posted Sunday at 19:06 19 minutes ago, spyinthesky said: Possible Draws Expected Losses Ipswich (A) Bournemouth (H) Brighton (H) Chelsea (A) Wolves (H) Liverpool (A) Palace (H) Spurs (A) Villa (H) Man City (H) W Ham (A) Arsenal (H) Fulham (H) Leicester (A) Everton (A) I am a a self confessed Negative Nellie but if the team cant get six draws or one win and three draws from 15 games that may be a scar that many will never recover from. Winning two games would be a minor miracle the way we are playing at the moment. Who will never recover? The fans? We have enough dismal records as it is - its just another to add to the growing list. Or if you're worried by what other fans might think then perhaps supporting Saints isnt for you. Maybe that's just me, but I've been worn down watching enough shite for the past 5 years If you mean the players - many will be at new clubs next season and will have forgotten about how bad they were - they're just after their next payday. 2
Holmes_and_Watson Posted Sunday at 19:14 Posted Sunday at 19:14 Sadly, it looks as though we'll have to depend on the cup, to get into Europe next season. 6 15
saintant Posted Sunday at 19:30 Posted Sunday at 19:30 45 minutes ago, spyinthesky said: Possible Draws Expected Losses Ipswich (A) Bournemouth (H) Brighton (H) Chelsea (A) Wolves (H) Liverpool (A) Palace (H) Spurs (A) Villa (H) Man City (H) W Ham (A) Arsenal (H) Fulham (H) Leicester (A) Everton (A) I am a a self confessed Negative Nellie but if the team cant get six draws or one win and three draws from 15 games that may be a scar that many will never recover from. Winning two games would be a minor miracle the way we are playing at the moment. Think we'll win a couple of those home games and pick up 2-3 draws so another 8 or 9 points will get us over the line. 4 3 1
Football Special Posted Sunday at 19:40 Posted Sunday at 19:40 8 minutes ago, saintant said: Think we'll win a couple of those home games and pick up 2-3 draws so another 8 or 9 points will get us over the line. Last min winner at home to Arsenal last game of the season to get us above the record followed by a jubilant pitch invasion, the goal scorer, Ross Stewart, carried off the pitch on the shoulders of cheering fans Marvellous 4 12 1
LGTL Posted Sunday at 19:52 Posted Sunday at 19:52 We really have to focus on Wolves and Palace at home. They're probably our best two chances of actually winning a game. Even if we somehow manage to win just one of them, it leaves us needing 3 draws. Surely even we can manage that, surely? I'm not remotely confident mind you. 1
die Mannyschaft Posted Sunday at 19:52 Posted Sunday at 19:52 Anything is possible. We should be winning against, Ipswich, Wolves, Leicester, Everton and West Ham. That's 15 points. Saints are playing catch up after only recently training to cross balls, not walk, and realising passing around at back just let's in goals. We should get 5 draws v these teams at the very least. 1 2
bugenhagen Posted Sunday at 19:55 Posted Sunday at 19:55 6 minutes ago, Football Special said: Last min winner at home to Arsenal last game of the season to get us above the record followed by a jubilant pitch invasion, the goal scorer, Ross Stewart, carried off the pitch on the shoulders of cheering fans Marvellous If that happens, please be careful, maybe use a strecher to carry him off, not high up on shoulders where he could fall down and injure himself. 2 1
SaintsBarry74 Posted Sunday at 19:59 Posted Sunday at 19:59 51 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said: Who will never recover? The fans? We have enough dismal records as it is - its just another to add to the growing list. Or if you're worried by what other fans might think then perhaps supporting Saints isnt for you. Maybe that's just me, but I've been worn down watching enough shite for the past 5 years If you mean the players - many will be at new clubs next season and will have forgotten about how bad they were - they're just after their next payday. The 9-0s are quite bad as it is, we also have the most frequent heavy defeats per season. But... Beating Derby's record would feel like a point of no return, complete humiliation. 2 1
LuckyNumber7 Posted Sunday at 20:01 Posted Sunday at 20:01 7 minutes ago, die Mannyschaft said: Anything is possible. We should be winning against, Ipswich, Wolves, Leicester, Everton and West Ham. That's 15 points. Saints are playing catch up after only recently training to cross balls, not walk, and realising passing around at back just let's in goals. We should get 5 draws v these teams at the very least. Should we? I think you're vastly overestimating the ability of our team. Hard to see where the next point comes from, let alone win. 4
Nordic Saint Posted Sunday at 20:04 Posted Sunday at 20:04 21 minutes ago, Football Special said: Last min winner at home to Arsenal last game of the season to get us above the record followed by a jubilant pitch invasion, the goal scorer, Ross Stewart, carried off the pitch on the shoulders of cheering fans Marvellous More likely by stretcher bearers. We'd probably need them to get him onto the pitch as well. 1 1
spyinthesky Posted Sunday at 20:07 Author Posted Sunday at 20:07 57 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said: Who will never recover? The fans? We have enough dismal records as it is - its just another to add to the growing list. Or if you're worried by what other fans might think then perhaps supporting Saints isnt for you. Maybe that's just me, but I've been worn down watching enough shite for the past 5 years If you mean the players - many will be at new clubs next season and will have forgotten about how bad they were - they're just after their next payday. Fair comment but having supported the Saints from the Div3S days, my support for Saints is a given however I have never known us to be so outclassed at any time in my long association. That said I will be back next year without much expectation. 3
S-Clarke Posted Sunday at 20:15 Posted Sunday at 20:15 (edited) 22 minutes ago, die Mannyschaft said: Anything is possible. We should be winning against, Ipswich, Wolves, Leicester, Everton and West Ham. That's 15 points. Saints are playing catch up after only recently training to cross balls, not walk, and realising passing around at back just let's in goals. We should get 5 draws v these teams at the very least. It's weird reading this thread, reading that in any normal teams forum you'd think we were still debating a chance of staying up and wins against those teams will be huge etc etc. But no, we're actually not debating staying up - we're debating making sure we get more than 11 points. It's incredible how this season has been allowed to happen. Edited Sunday at 20:15 by S-Clarke 5 2 2
Teamsaint1 Posted Sunday at 20:16 Posted Sunday at 20:16 If the team and management stick together we can get a halfway respectable return from the last 15 games, say 2 wins and three draws. We will need a couple of games where we play near our best and get a decent rub of the green, but I’m sure the players will be up for the challenge. 3
Galway saint Posted Sunday at 20:33 Posted Sunday at 20:33 Think our best chance of a win will be when the season is effectively over for a lot of teams and they have one eye on the beach, but until then I can’t see us beating anyone in the PL.
rallyboy Posted Sunday at 20:33 Posted Sunday at 20:33 Don't panic - Juric is out there tonight driving through the M3 roadworks at 110mph, he's on a provisional licence, he's got no insurance or MOT, if that doesn't take us past Derby, nothing will. 2
Morse Posted Sunday at 21:02 Posted Sunday at 21:02 Very much depends how long Dibbling and Sulemana are out for, and if Fernandes stays fit. I'd give us a 50/50 chance of getting to 12 points. 1
woodsaint1 Posted Sunday at 21:48 Posted Sunday at 21:48 Calling it now - we'll equal it What was Derby's GD? 😂😂
Hawkswood Posted Sunday at 21:49 Posted Sunday at 21:49 Question is.......if we reach 12 points can we have a pitch invasion ? 1
Matthew Le God Posted Sunday at 21:51 Posted Sunday at 21:51 (edited) 4 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said: Calling it now - we'll equal it What was Derby's GD? 😂😂 -69 GD for Derby vs -37 GD from 23 games for Saints Edited Sunday at 21:53 by Matthew Le God 1
Osvaldorama Posted Sunday at 22:09 Posted Sunday at 22:09 2 hours ago, spyinthesky said: Fair comment but having supported the Saints from the Div3S days, my support for Saints is a given however I have never known us to be so outclassed at any time in my long association. That said I will be back next year without much expectation. First time we’ve lost 6 league games in a row. We entered the leagues in.. 1894? So. Yeah this is a terrible, terrible team and everyone involved from Dragan down should be completely embarrassed and/or sacked 4
Roo1976 Posted Sunday at 22:30 Posted Sunday at 22:30 2 hours ago, S-Clarke said: It's weird reading this thread, reading that in any normal teams forum you'd think we were still debating a chance of staying up and wins against those teams will be huge etc etc. But no, we're actually not debating staying up - we're debating making sure we get more than 11 points. It's incredible how this season has been allowed to happen. They have won just one of their last 36 Premier League games (D7 L28) and, when converting to three points for a win all time, Saints' six points is the second lowest after 23 top-flight games, with only Bolton in 1902/03 ever having fewer at this stage (3). All i want and suspect alot on the same wavelength,simple just beat Derby 11 points ,season is over just a matter of whos going with us.
Whitey Grandad Posted Sunday at 23:28 Posted Sunday at 23:28 2 hours ago, rallyboy said: Don't panic - Juric is out there tonight driving through the M3 roadworks at 110mph, he's on a provisional licence, he's got no insurance or MOT, if that doesn't take us past Derby, nothing will. The M3 doesn’t go past Derby 🤔 2
Golac's Iron Gonads Posted Monday at 09:46 Posted Monday at 09:46 Why do we want to avoid it? I say we should knuckle down, focus, and really go all out to set a points total so low that future generations will ask their parents, peers and experts how such a total was possible and why was such a thing allowed to happen. I am looking forward to years and years of Youtube videos explaining and analysing what happened to Southampton in the 2024/25 season. 5
saintant Posted Monday at 09:52 Posted Monday at 09:52 11 hours ago, Osvaldorama said: First time we’ve lost 6 league games in a row. We entered the leagues in.. 1894? So. Yeah this is a terrible, terrible team and everyone involved from Dragan down should be completely embarrassed and/or sacked Think it's first time we've lost 6 in a row at home. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted Monday at 09:56 Posted Monday at 09:56 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Golac's Iron Gonads said: Why do we want to avoid it? I say we should knuckle down, focus, and really go all out to set a points total so low that future generations will ask their parents, peers and experts how such a total was possible and why was such a thing allowed to happen. I am looking forward to years and years of Youtube videos explaining and analysing what happened to Southampton in the 2024/25 season. I think they’ll just avoid with a couple of April wins against teams in mid-table thinking of their holidays but part of me does see benefits in the club humiliated with a single figure points total to remove any trace of the misplaced smugness and complacency particular towards our supporters since 2017. Get a bit of fire and drive back in the bellies and also it might force a total change of the guard in how SFC is run. Come back with the biggest budget in the league, recruitment to excite the fans, autos with 100 points and the narrative would be of incredible comeback and renewal. Ball in Dragan’s court. Edited Monday at 10:01 by Gloucester Saint 1
saintant Posted Monday at 09:57 Posted Monday at 09:57 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Golac's Iron Gonads said: Why do we want to avoid it? I say we should knuckle down, focus, and really go all out to set a points total so low that future generations will ask their parents, peers and experts how such a total was possible and why was such a thing allowed to happen. I am looking forward to years and years of Youtube videos explaining and analysing what happened to Southampton in the 2024/25 season. Simply we are by far the lowest net spenders trying to survive in the elite league by picking up mainly young players who may or may not produce a good sell on profit. Add in Russball which clearly was never going to work and led to a constant flow of ridiculous mistakes and then factor in SR who are clueless and you have concocted the perfect storm to produce a team and squad not geared to win matches in the Premier League. We are like a blindfolded boxer fighting with both hands tied behind his back. The reasons for our demise are pretty obvious really. Edited Monday at 09:58 by saintant 1
spyinthesky Posted Monday at 12:36 Author Posted Monday at 12:36 14 hours ago, Osvaldorama said: First time we’ve lost 6 league games in a row. We entered the leagues in.. 1894? So. Yeah this is a terrible, terrible team and everyone involved from Dragan down should be completely embarrassed and/or sacked We were in the Southern League, along with Spurs and a few others of a similar standing from around our founding date ie 1885 and did pretty well winning the title on a few occasions and reaching a couple of Cup Finals. Along with a number of 'Non League' teams we then entered the Football League via the Third Division South in 1921. This is all from memory so please excuse me if I have not remembered dates correctly.
Toadhall Saint Posted Monday at 12:42 Posted Monday at 12:42 A big no from me - a very unwanted record awaits
leesaint88 Posted Monday at 12:45 Posted Monday at 12:45 Nah we need that record, at least nobody is going for forget us! I think we might pick up another couple of points but we won't make it to double figures.
Sunglasses Ron Posted Monday at 12:46 Posted Monday at 12:46 17 hours ago, Football Special said: Last min winner at home to Arsenal last game of the season to get us above the record followed by a jubilant pitch invasion, the goal scorer, Ross Stewart, carried off the pitch on the shoulders of cheering fans Marvellous Very good! 😄 I was thinking earlier how utterly awful the end of season 'lap of appreciation' would be like (the one two seasons ago was really bad), but this is a very nice scenario. Alternatively, it doesn't happen, we get the unwanted record and the club provide us with rotten fruit to pelt them with. 1
saintant Posted Monday at 14:04 Posted Monday at 14:04 We're gonna do it - time to book the open top bus and spec out your best vantage point for the tour of the City. It's going to make the 1976 FA Cup City tour look like a funeral procession 🙂
Teamsaint1 Posted Monday at 14:07 Posted Monday at 14:07 1 hour ago, Football Special said: 1 hour ago, Football Special said: Not much comfort that it was Everton, really....
OneMrsWallace Posted Monday at 15:02 Posted Monday at 15:02 16 hours ago, Roo1976 said: They have won just one of their last 36 Premier League games (D7 L28) and, when converting to three points for a win all time, Saints' six points is the second lowest after 23 top-flight games, with only Bolton in 1902/03 ever having fewer at this stage (3). All i want and suspect alot on the same wavelength,simple just beat Derby 11 points ,season is over just a matter of whos going with us. This is why I can't see us getting to 12 points. Most of the players have given up already. Only chance is if we're somehow 0-0 at 93 mins and Nick a goal. Twice. Even at 93 mins I wouldn't bet on us holding out 😅
Saint86 Posted Monday at 15:20 Posted Monday at 15:20 (edited) 20 hours ago, spyinthesky said: Possible Draws Expected Losses Ipswich (A) Bournemouth (H) Brighton (H) Chelsea (A) Wolves (H) Liverpool (A) Palace (H) Spurs (A) Villa (H) Man City (H) W Ham (A) Arsenal (H) Fulham (H) Leicester (A) Everton (A) I am a a self confessed Negative Nellie but if the team cant get six draws or one win and three draws from 15 games that may be a scar that many will never recover from. Winning two games would be a minor miracle the way we are playing at the moment. A scar that many will never recover from? Come on mate behave with the hyperbole. This club almost went bust 15years ago, we had "save our saints buckets" all over the city, players' contracts were running out in the summer, and we were starting on - 10points. If it happens, it happens, but it would take a special level of victimhood to wear it as "a scar" that the club will never recover from. I think it much more likely that the club and fans would bounce back from it with a determination to not let it happen again and turn it into something good - that is much more in keeping with the club. See response to the 9-0 Leicester game, the response to league 1 - 10points, the response to the last relegation and our support last year and selling out season tickets this year. Saints never do anything by half measures - and that includes relegation from the top flight - we don't go down in 18th or 19th, we go down rooted to the bottom 😂🤣. A little less feeling sorry for ourselves please. Let's just get the season done and start looking bad building for the future and get some optimism and determination back into the club. It's also one of our strengths and weakness as a fanbase that we never over react to anything (good or bad). We stuffed Sunderland 8-0 and had Sunderland fans walking back to the station telling us off for being shit fans and not celebrating enough 😂🤣. We stood by ralph after that 9-0 vs Leicester etc. But similarly we don't demand enough from the team and players which differentiates us from larger clubs. Edited Monday at 15:24 by Saint86 1
Sunglasses Ron Posted Monday at 16:45 Posted Monday at 16:45 (edited) It might not be an actual scar, but who the f@ck would be anything other than gutted having our name associated with such failure? Edited Monday at 16:48 by Sunglasses Ron 2
Whitey Grandad Posted Monday at 18:01 Posted Monday at 18:01 5 hours ago, leesaint88 said: Nah we need that record, at least nobody is going for forget us! I think we might pick up another couple of points but we won't make it to double figures. Of course we do. How many records do we hold, if any? 2
Pamplemousse Posted Monday at 18:35 Posted Monday at 18:35 If Juric can sort out the defence (hahahahaha) we might be alright and pick up a few more points. Maybe we should just go for the Rusk strategy of shithousing our way to 0-0 each game.
SaintsBarry74 Posted Monday at 18:42 Posted Monday at 18:42 This club takes failure to an extreme unprecedented level. My mate, a Leicester fan, said to me today, "At least you guys don’t have to stress anymore this season - nothing left to play for." I told him, “You’re joking, right? We’re out here fighting to avoid Derby’s record, and even that’s going miserably." 1
RedArmy Posted Monday at 20:45 Posted Monday at 20:45 Would be typical Saints to get 12 points so we can once again finish 2nd. 1 1
vectraman Posted Monday at 21:15 Posted Monday at 21:15 3 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said: Of course we do. How many records do we hold, if any? Fastest premier league goal. Fastest hat trick. That’s two…. 1
ApprenticeBillionaire Posted Monday at 21:31 Posted Monday at 21:31 Ths just CANNOT happen. It's the stuff of nightmares. As far as football goes this is the unthinkable. We need 12 points to avoid Derby's record, that seems highly unlikely. 1
Galway saint Posted Monday at 22:52 Posted Monday at 22:52 Fast forward to the last game of the season against Arsenal at home and we are on 9 points, needing a win to eclipse Derby. The atmosphere is electric and who other than Ross pops up with a ninetieth minute scuffed winner to take the three points and a packed house goes wild, with the players doing laps of honour, juric in tears and dragan punching the air. Blackmore and Tessem leading a chorus of OWTS from the gantry. There’s talk of an open top bus and even a commemorative coin. Would put the play off final into the shade and go down as one the great days in the club’s history, making a hero out of Ross. 1
Farmer Saint Posted Tuesday at 07:04 Posted Tuesday at 07:04 (edited) There was a good reason why I said last year we don't want to get promoted this season - PSR headroom wouldn't allow us to upgrade our team enough, and as we saw in the Championship even with Downes and THB our team couldn't defend - how were they ever going to do a job in the PL? To try to counter this we went 5 at the back to give us that extra player to defend with as we would have had no chance playing a 4, but has meant that our midfield has been overrun. At least people are now seeing that our defence being utter shite is not Manager dependent as Juric is struggling with the quality of players we have. One of our biggest problems now is the opposition has the ball too much and can cut through our poor defence time after time. We need to keep possession better to keep it away from the opposition. Edited Tuesday at 07:06 by Farmer Saint 2
Weston Super Saint Posted Tuesday at 07:07 Posted Tuesday at 07:07 2 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: There was a good reason why I said last year we don't want to get promoted this season - PSR headroom wouldn't allow us to upgrade our team enough, and as we saw in the Championship even with Downes and THB our team couldn't defend - how were they ever going to do a job in the PL? To try to counter this we went 5 at the back to give us that extra player to defend with as we would have had no chance playing a 4, but has meant that our midfield has been overrun. At least people are now seeing that our defence being utter shite is not Manager dependent as Juric is struggling with the quality of players we have. One of our biggest problems now is the opposition has the ball too much and can cut through our poor defence time after time. We need to keep possession better to keep it away from the opposition. Ah, bless. Remind us how much we spent on transfers in the summer? 1
Farmer Saint Posted Tuesday at 07:10 Posted Tuesday at 07:10 First post in a month, and look who shows up within 2 minutes. Obsessed 1
tisspahars Posted Tuesday at 07:54 Posted Tuesday at 07:54 8/1 still available with 365 for those who, somewhat bizarrely, think it's absolutely inevitable....
Weston Super Saint Posted Tuesday at 08:19 Posted Tuesday at 08:19 (edited) 1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said: First post in a month, and look who shows up within 2 minutes. Obsessed No wonder you get confused by numbers. Previous post was 6th Jan. Today is the 28th. How many days in a 'month'? Nice to see you've taken me off ignore again Edited Tuesday at 08:19 by Weston Super Saint 1
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