Johannes Spors

[Matthew Le God]

12 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Yoann Folly had though, promising cameo, then vanished via a spell at Plymouth.

Yoann Folly signed for £250k in 2003. At the time our record signing was £4m.

The fee for Joachim Kayi Sanda is a similar(ish) ratio to our current record signing.

The fee for Joachim Kayi Sanda is not out of place for a French youth international captain with a decent amount of first team experience (including 20 games in the French 2nd tier).

Edited Sunday at 10:25 by Matthew Le God

[miserableoldgit]

14 hours ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

Financially, we're ok at present, so what we get for Fernandes could be used for player investment. I would also think £30-40m for Fernandes sounds about right, and that should get us a couple of top championship players. But if they're putting a £100m tag on Dibling, crikey, they should be asking £150m for Fernandes!

 

The Dibling price tag is just a line in the sand. Saying "We will not be selling cheap" I guess....

[Gloucester Saint]

55 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Yoann Folly signed for £250k in 2003. At the time our record signing was £4m.

The fee for Joachim Kayi Sanda is a similar(ish) ratio to our current record signing.

The fee for Joachim Kayi Sanda is not out of place for a French youth international captain with a decent amount of first team experience (including 20 games in the French 2nd tier).

I don’t disagree with what you are saying in isolation, there is some neat symmetry there. But the club has also signed Ronnie Edwards, who is a slightly more experienced version of Sanda, and also Nathan Wood for £3m who played more games this year than expected but hasn’t looked close to PL level even so, and was mixed at the level were at next season.

The point I’m making is if the club are going to buy these deals for the future then there needs to a clear pathway to the first team if they developed as hoped. Otherwise it’s just throwing lots of individual transfers and transactions for individual players hoping to get lucky with the odd one, resulting in a huge roster and no discernible first team spine.

Edited Sunday at 11:18 by Gloucester Saint

[Gloucester Saint]

57 minutes ago, Badger said:

Felt when we signed Diallo, Les had just thrown the random words, ‘French’,‘short’ ,’black bloke’,’midfield’ into the signing generator to see what name came up. 

I think they panicked when Sangare couldn’t get a work permit and bought the next available what they perceived as a similar player. Turned out to be the pound shop version. 

[skintsaint]

26 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

The point I’m making is if the club are going to buy these deals for the future then there needs to a clear pathway to the first team if they developed as hoped. Otherwise it’s just throwing lots of individual transfers and transactions for individual players hoping to get lucky with the odd one, resulting in a huge roster and no discernible first team spine.

different point to what was alluded at the start, like it was just a transfer to move money around the group.

[Badger]

22 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

I think they panicked when Sangare couldn’t get a work permit and bought the next available what they perceived as a similar player. Turned out to be the pound shop version. 

You’re probably right in how they might have seen it, but Christ on a bike the players were complete opposites in physicality, potential etc.

We go from trying to sign a potential’ new Wanyama’ to another shortarse ‘new Yoann Folly’ . 
 

 

[Gloucester Saint]

3 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

different point to what was alluded at the start, like it was just a transfer to move money around the group.

It could equally have been that happening too. I’m just making the point that the club is just as fond of buying ‘ones for the future’ as Chelsea or City, without keeping anywhere near pace with first team investment in key positions. Those two clubs can afford to do both at PL level, Saints can’t.

[Midfield_General]

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Edited Sunday at 12:33 by Midfield_General
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