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Matthew Le God

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  On 30/03/2025 at 10:13, Gloucester Saint said:

Yoann Folly had though, promising cameo, then vanished via a spell at Plymouth.

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Yoann Folly signed for £250k in 2003. At the time our record signing was £4m.

The fee for Joachim Kayi Sanda is a similar(ish) ratio to our current record signing.

The fee for Joachim Kayi Sanda is not out of place for a French youth international captain with a decent amount of first team experience (including 20 games in the French 2nd tier).

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miserableoldgit

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  On 29/03/2025 at 18:07, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

Financially, we're ok at present, so what we get for Fernandes could be used for player investment. I would also think £30-40m for Fernandes sounds about right, and that should get us a couple of top championship players. But if they're putting a £100m tag on Dibling, crikey, they should be asking £150m for Fernandes!

 

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The Dibling price tag is just a line in the sand. Saying "We will not be selling cheap" I guess....

Gloucester Saint

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  On 30/03/2025 at 10:22, Matthew Le God said:

Yoann Folly signed for £250k in 2003. At the time our record signing was £4m.

The fee for Joachim Kayi Sanda is a similar(ish) ratio to our current record signing.

The fee for Joachim Kayi Sanda is not out of place for a French youth international captain with a decent amount of first team experience (including 20 games in the French 2nd tier).

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I don’t disagree with what you are saying in isolation, there is some neat symmetry there. But the club has also signed Ronnie Edwards, who is a slightly more experienced version of Sanda, and also Nathan Wood for £3m who played more games this year than expected but hasn’t looked close to PL level even so, and was mixed at the level were at next season.

The point I’m making is if the club are going to buy these deals for the future then there needs to a clear pathway to the first team if they developed as hoped. Otherwise it’s just throwing lots of individual transfers and transactions for individual players hoping to get lucky with the odd one, resulting in a huge roster and no discernible first team spine.

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Gloucester Saint

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  On 30/03/2025 at 10:21, Badger said:

Felt when we signed Diallo, Les had just thrown the random words, ‘French’,‘short’ ,’black bloke’,’midfield’ into the signing generator to see what name came up. 

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I think they panicked when Sangare couldn’t get a work permit and bought the next available what they perceived as a similar player. Turned out to be the pound shop version. 

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  On 30/03/2025 at 11:16, Gloucester Saint said:

The point I’m making is if the club are going to buy these deals for the future then there needs to a clear pathway to the first team if they developed as hoped. Otherwise it’s just throwing lots of individual transfers and transactions for individual players hoping to get lucky with the odd one, resulting in a huge roster and no discernible first team spine.

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different point to what was alluded at the start, like it was just a transfer to move money around the group.

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  On 30/03/2025 at 11:20, Gloucester Saint said:

I think they panicked when Sangare couldn’t get a work permit and bought the next available what they perceived as a similar player. Turned out to be the pound shop version. 

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You’re probably right in how they might have seen it, but Christ on a bike the players were complete opposites in physicality, potential etc.

We go from trying to sign a potential’ new Wanyama’ to another shortarse ‘new Yoann Folly’ . 
 

 

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Gloucester Saint

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  On 30/03/2025 at 11:42, skintsaint said:

different point to what was alluded at the start, like it was just a transfer to move money around the group.

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It could equally have been that happening too. I’m just making the point that the club is just as fond of buying ‘ones for the future’ as Chelsea or City, without keeping anywhere near pace with first team investment in key positions. Those two clubs can afford to do both at PL level, Saints can’t.

Daft Kerplunk

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This fella needs to be a miracle worker, or just really great. 

A major clear out needed - playing staff and backroom staff because they help create the conditions where this level of crap becomes acceptable and tolerated. Far better players need to be attracted. A quality manager is essential.

Failure to get promoted next season could see us be like Derby in more ways than missing their target of 11 points in a season.  At least he has 6 weeks extra to prepare knowing what division we will be in next season.

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The biggest millstone round his neck and the monkey on his back is that he was selected by Sports Republic - I guess they are due to get something right and that's the one straw I can cling to.

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Gloucester Saint

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Interesting analysis https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cg5qy16e18po

Intriguing sentence about Darren Mowbray, sounds to me like he was advocating for the likes of Delap and Carvalho, and either SR wouldn’t pay up and/or Martin and Ankerson ignored him. 

Nobody should be signed in the summer who isn’t an automatic XI selection if fit and on form, and would be able to get in the Championship team of the year. No more player trading shit, and no more ‘ones for the future’. Now only.

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Lee On Solent Saint

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  On 06/04/2025 at 18:13, Gloucester Saint said:

Interesting analysis https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cg5qy16e18po

Intriguing sentence about Darren Mowbray, sounds to me like he was advocating for the likes of Delap and Carvalho, and either SR wouldn’t pay up and/or Martin and Ankerson ignored him. 

Nobody should be signed in the summer who isn’t an automatic XI selection if fit and on form, and would be able to get in the Championship team of the year. No more player trading shit, and no more ‘ones for the future’. Now only.

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If the last sentence is correct then Sports Republic are even more culpable for this shit show then I gave them credit for. Absolutely fucktards trying to be clever. Ultimately they have cost this club far more than relegation. 

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  On 06/04/2025 at 18:45, Lee On Solent Saint said:

If the last sentence is correct then Sports Republic are even more culpable for this shit show then I gave them credit for. Absolutely fucktards trying to be clever. Ultimately they have cost this club far more than relegation. 

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Ankersson has clearly modelled himself on Brad Pitt in Moneyball.

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Willo of Whiteley

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Sports Republic are culpable for this.

Almost feel sorry for Spors to a point. He’s going to come in and want to put a stamp on in some way - if he is left to it then brilliant. But I wouldn’t put it past SR to keep meddling in the background.

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He's certainly saying the right things, and by all accounts doing the right things in the right order.

As we've always said, there's zero point in getting a new manager in the door until you have the correct structure, analysts, scouts and such in place. That was always job number 1 and I'm glad he also seems to see it that way. 

Next step is getting the manager who aligns correctly, and once that is in place we start shaping the squad.

By all accounts it sounds like they're doing it in the right way, a sensible and non-knee jerking approach. The club needed a reset of this level and to 'start' again in this sort of aspect, so let's see what the coming weeks bring and if the structure that has been built is going to work.

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Style of play like Klopp? Somebody that Spors may be familiar with is Marco Rose. Out of work since being sacked by Leipzig in March. Would be an obvious step down for him but he has only been linked with Saudi clubs and Rangers

Willo of Whiteley

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  On 16/05/2025 at 16:47, CSA96 said:

Exclusive interview with TNT 

https://www.tntsports.co.uk/football/premier-league/2024-2025/tyler-dibling-jurgen-klopp-football-new-manager-search-southampton-planning-relegation-johannes-spors_sto23183150/story.shtml

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Good interview - talks well.

But then we’ve heard it all before so all reserve judgement until the end of the window, see what the season brings, what manager joins, how we set up etc. 😂

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  On 16/05/2025 at 22:12, woodsaint1 said:

Style of play like Klopp? Somebody that Spors may be familiar with is Marco Rose. Out of work since being sacked by Leipzig in March. Would be an obvious step down for him but he has only been linked with Saudi clubs and Rangers

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Might be a good option( he’s perhaps a more experienced Rohl) but difficult to attract him to the Championship I’d have thought. 

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SWLondon Saint

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After the totally predictable disaster of the 'let's sign the manager's mates and favourites' transfer window last summer, some kind of process / structure sounds good but then the bar is pretty low right now...

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  On 16/05/2025 at 22:12, woodsaint1 said:

Style of play like Klopp? Somebody that Spors may be familiar with is Marco Rose. Out of work since being sacked by Leipzig in March. Would be an obvious step down for him but he has only been linked with Saudi clubs and Rangers

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Rose would be the kind of appointment we could make if we had managed to stay up this season.

Don't expect him to be interested whilst we're in the second division.

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  On 19/05/2025 at 08:38, Pamplemousse said:

 

Do we know if he played FM?

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The proof will be in the pudding and all that if the new hires are any good but it is good to see Spors cracking on and making a lot of change behind the scenes - our recruitment has been our Achilles heal for years so hopefully change is a positive. 

 

 

 

 

 

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OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint

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  On 19/05/2025 at 08:38, Pamplemousse said:

 

Do we know if he played FM?

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Um gottes willen? Was ist los? The management team is turning German. Next it'll be Still. While they might be limited in their knowledge of the premiership and not have so many contacts over here, they can't be any worse than the "If it ain't broke, break it" clever bollocks leadership we've had over the last couple of years.

I'm looking forward to seeing what they do in the summer. I'm guessing that to many people it will seem underwhelming when they don't have a mass clearout of the current squad. 

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Saint Fan CaM

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  On 20/05/2025 at 20:40, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

Um gottes willen? Was ist los? The management team is turning German. Next it'll be Still. While they might be limited in their knowledge of the premiership and not have so many contacts over here, they can't be any worse than the "If it ain't broke, break it" clever bollocks leadership we've had over the last couple of years.

I'm looking forward to seeing what they do in the summer. I'm guessing that to many people it will seem underwhelming when they don't have a mass clearout of the current squad. 

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Not quite. Priority one is change the style of play with a coaching team that know how to attack at pace and organise a defence. Priority two is move on any player not suited to or not able to adapt to the new style. For example, Welington wins out over Ryan ‘back pass’ Manning every day of the week. If that ends with fewer players leaving then so be it.

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  On 23/05/2025 at 10:09, Saint Fan CaM said:

Not quite. Priority one is change the style of play with a coaching team that know how to attack at pace and organise a defence. Priority two is move on any player not suited to or not able to adapt to the new style. For example, Welington wins out over Ryan ‘back pass’ Manning every day of the week. If that ends with fewer players leaving then so be it.

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It's a managers peogative to move on players who don't fit our style.

However, it's SR's responsibility to know what their plan is, and not lurch from one to the next.

Charlie and Perraud were both binned off by Martin (smugly, in Perraud's case, which I didn't like at the time). Both attacking and direct. Both more suited in the squad to come than several others.

If SR developed some consistency, the players having to move on because of the system, would be fewer. That would leave them with things like the quality of recruitment to focus on.

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Anyone else hankering for the days of yore where you didn't have to worry about buying players that fitted a certain style. Just buy some decent players and get out there and play football rather than all this over-thinking the game malarkey! FFS :)

Victor Meldrew

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Wade Garrett

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  On 23/05/2025 at 12:30, trousers said:

Anyone else hankering for the days of yore where you didn't have to worry about buying players that fitted a certain style. Just buy some decent players and get out there and play football rather than all this over-thinking the game malarkey! FFS :)

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It’s all this data-driven bollocks because the game is being taken over by a load of fucking speccy geeky twats.

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