Johannes Spors

[Matthew Le God]

12 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Yoann Folly had though, promising cameo, then vanished via a spell at Plymouth.

Yoann Folly signed for £250k in 2003. At the time our record signing was £4m.

The fee for Joachim Kayi Sanda is a similar(ish) ratio to our current record signing.

The fee for Joachim Kayi Sanda is not out of place for a French youth international captain with a decent amount of first team experience (including 20 games in the French 2nd tier).

Edited March 30 by Matthew Le God

[miserableoldgit]

14 hours ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

Financially, we're ok at present, so what we get for Fernandes could be used for player investment. I would also think £30-40m for Fernandes sounds about right, and that should get us a couple of top championship players. But if they're putting a £100m tag on Dibling, crikey, they should be asking £150m for Fernandes!

 

The Dibling price tag is just a line in the sand. Saying "We will not be selling cheap" I guess....

[Gloucester Saint]

55 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Yoann Folly signed for £250k in 2003. At the time our record signing was £4m.

The fee for Joachim Kayi Sanda is a similar(ish) ratio to our current record signing.

The fee for Joachim Kayi Sanda is not out of place for a French youth international captain with a decent amount of first team experience (including 20 games in the French 2nd tier).

I don’t disagree with what you are saying in isolation, there is some neat symmetry there. But the club has also signed Ronnie Edwards, who is a slightly more experienced version of Sanda, and also Nathan Wood for £3m who played more games this year than expected but hasn’t looked close to PL level even so, and was mixed at the level were at next season.

The point I’m making is if the club are going to buy these deals for the future then there needs to a clear pathway to the first team if they developed as hoped. Otherwise it’s just throwing lots of individual transfers and transactions for individual players hoping to get lucky with the odd one, resulting in a huge roster and no discernible first team spine.

Edited March 30 by Gloucester Saint

[Gloucester Saint]

57 minutes ago, Badger said:

Felt when we signed Diallo, Les had just thrown the random words, ‘French’,‘short’ ,’black bloke’,’midfield’ into the signing generator to see what name came up. 

I think they panicked when Sangare couldn’t get a work permit and bought the next available what they perceived as a similar player. Turned out to be the pound shop version. 

[skintsaint]

26 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

The point I’m making is if the club are going to buy these deals for the future then there needs to a clear pathway to the first team if they developed as hoped. Otherwise it’s just throwing lots of individual transfers and transactions for individual players hoping to get lucky with the odd one, resulting in a huge roster and no discernible first team spine.

different point to what was alluded at the start, like it was just a transfer to move money around the group.

[Badger]

22 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

I think they panicked when Sangare couldn’t get a work permit and bought the next available what they perceived as a similar player. Turned out to be the pound shop version. 

You’re probably right in how they might have seen it, but Christ on a bike the players were complete opposites in physicality, potential etc.

We go from trying to sign a potential’ new Wanyama’ to another shortarse ‘new Yoann Folly’ . 
 

 

[Gloucester Saint]

3 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

different point to what was alluded at the start, like it was just a transfer to move money around the group.

It could equally have been that happening too. I’m just making the point that the club is just as fond of buying ‘ones for the future’ as Chelsea or City, without keeping anywhere near pace with first team investment in key positions. Those two clubs can afford to do both at PL level, Saints can’t.

[Midfield_General]

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Edited March 30 by Midfield_General
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[Daft Kerplunk]

This fella needs to be a miracle worker, or just really great. 

A major clear out needed - playing staff and backroom staff because they help create the conditions where this level of crap becomes acceptable and tolerated. Far better players need to be attracted. A quality manager is essential.

Failure to get promoted next season could see us be like Derby in more ways than missing their target of 11 points in a season.  At least he has 6 weeks extra to prepare knowing what division we will be in next season.

[saintant]

The biggest millstone round his neck and the monkey on his back is that he was selected by Sports Republic - I guess they are due to get something right and that's the one straw I can cling to.

[Gloucester Saint]

Interesting analysis https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cg5qy16e18po

Intriguing sentence about Darren Mowbray, sounds to me like he was advocating for the likes of Delap and Carvalho, and either SR wouldn’t pay up and/or Martin and Ankerson ignored him. 

Nobody should be signed in the summer who isn’t an automatic XI selection if fit and on form, and would be able to get in the Championship team of the year. No more player trading shit, and no more ‘ones for the future’. Now only.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

29 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Interesting analysis https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cg5qy16e18po

Intriguing sentence about Darren Mowbray, sounds to me like he was advocating for the likes of Delap and Carvalho, and either SR wouldn’t pay up and/or Martin and Ankerson ignored him. 

Nobody should be signed in the summer who isn’t an automatic XI selection if fit and on form, and would be able to get in the Championship team of the year. No more player trading shit, and no more ‘ones for the future’. Now only.

If the last sentence is correct then Sports Republic are even more culpable for this shit show then I gave them credit for. Absolutely fucktards trying to be clever. Ultimately they have cost this club far more than relegation. 

[Suhari]

15 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

If the last sentence is correct then Sports Republic are even more culpable for this shit show then I gave them credit for. Absolutely fucktards trying to be clever. Ultimately they have cost this club far more than relegation. 

Ankersson has clearly modelled himself on Brad Pitt in Moneyball.

[Willo of Whiteley]

Sports Republic are culpable for this.

Almost feel sorry for Spors to a point. He’s going to come in and want to put a stamp on in some way - if he is left to it then brilliant. But I wouldn’t put it past SR to keep meddling in the background.