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Posted
20 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

SR are odd - they do make some good appointments like this. On paper both Shields and Wilcox were good appointments, but we never seem to be able to keep them longer than a few months.

I guess it's because the good appointments see the reality once they've settled in and bail asap?

I still firmly believe Wilcox was destined for United, but used Saints as a middle stop so he didn’t go from one part of the city to the other. 
 

I don’t think it’s SR, but the recruitment around football data/scouting is pretty ruthless and fast moving. If you do a decent job, then one of the bigger clubs will be making moves quickly. 

Posted
45 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

hahahahhaahhaahahahhahaahhaa

hopefully he will work his magic on us

Maitake on it is that given time he could do well

Posted
12 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

He’ll have his work cut out, there’s not mush room for error.

Let’s just hope that he doesn’t keep us in the dark and feed us a load of manure.

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The mad part is this seems to be a radical change in philosophy for the entire club again

I thought they were wedded to possession? Now they’re going back to high press? 
 

SR’s leadership is hilariously shite. I just hope this new guy is good, does things his way and tells the rest of them all to fuck off 

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Posted
44 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

The mad part is this seems to be a radical change in philosophy for the entire club again

I thought they were wedded to possession? Now they’re going back to high press? 
 

SR’s leadership is hilariously shite. I just hope this new guy is good, does things his way and tells the rest of them all to fuck off 

I don’t think SR are wedded to a philosophy. They gave Wilcox free rein and he bought possession style with him, hiring Martin. 

Makes buying players a pain in the arse though.

 

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Posted
20 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said:

I don’t think SR are wedded to a philosophy. They gave Wilcox free rein and he bought possession style with him, hiring Martin. 

Makes buying players a pain in the arse though.

 


It just all seems so scattergun. Everything they do has no coherent strategy behind it. 
 

Embarrassing for Dragan tbh. Id hate to have wasted so much money on this absolute circus 🎪

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Posted

Not joining until February I believe but I wonder if he’s already involved with Juric in sorting out players and their contracts in this window and ready for a big shift in the summer? Wouldn’t be the first time a DoF has started ‘early’.

Posted
57 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Wouldn’t be the first time a DoF has started ‘early’.

His role is not being reported in the media as director of football. It is as a technical director. 

Johannes Spors technical director

Mark Bitcon director of football operations 

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Not joining until February I believe but I wonder if he’s already involved with Juric in sorting out players and their contracts in this window and ready for a big shift in the summer? Wouldn’t be the first time a DoF has started ‘early’.

Could be the reason why Cornet has gone to Genoa, done us a solid to free up a loan slot. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

His role is not being reported in the media as director of football. It is as a technical director. 

Johannes Spors technical director

Mark Bitcon director of football operations 

 

 

Well if we’re being pedantic, I didn’t call him a DoF…I said it would not be the first time a DoF has started early. 😉

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Posted
12 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

His role is not being reported in the media as director of football. It is as a technical director. 

Johannes Spors technical director

Mark Bitcon director of football operations 

 

 

Director of Football Operations is very different to a DoF.

As a simplistic view, the former is responsible for day to day processes, the operational side of things, the latter is responsible for strategy and the long term.

Posted
10 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Director of Football Operations is very different to a DoF.

As a simplistic view, the former is responsible for day to day processes, the operational side of things, the latter is responsible for strategy and the long term.

I know and I did not say they were identical roles. Clubs use these roles in different ways and there is some variation and crossovers in duties.

Posted
14 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Director of Football Operations is very different to a DoF.

As a simplistic view, the former is responsible for day to day processes, the operational side of things, the latter is responsible for strategy and the long term.

Ross Wilson labels his time at Saints as Director of Football operations. He was overseeing transfers and strategy.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ross-wilson-ba86b020/?originalSubdomain=uk

Posted
20 minutes ago, Master Bates said:

Work permit rejected? 😉

Football insider are stating that quoting a home office source. Interesting what the club does now, whether they go down the appeal route or revert back to previous candidates. 

Posted
Just now, leesaint88 said:

Football insider are stating that quoting a home office source. Interesting what the club does now, whether they go down the appeal route or revert back to previous candidates. 

How can someone with his experience not get a work permit? Strange.

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Posted
25 minutes ago, Master Bates said:

Work permit rejected? 😉

 

3 minutes ago, leesaint88 said:

Football insider are stating that quoting a home office source. Interesting what the club does now, whether they go down the appeal route or revert back to previous candidates. 

there are boats leaving from Calais every half hour. Just jump on one of them and they'll stick him in a hotel until his application is sorted. 

Posted
7 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

How can someone with his experience not get a work permit? Strange.

It's very odd - I assume he meets the standard quota of having a job offer and stable finances. I can only assume there has been some errors on the paperwork, or they've missed any of the deadlines. 

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Posted
12 minutes ago, leesaint88 said:

It's very odd - I assume he meets the standard quota of having a job offer and stable finances. I can only assume there has been some errors on the paperwork, or they've missed any of the deadlines. 

Could this be connected to the fact that Rishi Sunak is a Saints fan?

Posted
14 minutes ago, leesaint88 said:

It's very odd - I assume he meets the standard quota of having a job offer and stable finances. I can only assume there has been some errors on the paperwork, or they've missed any of the deadlines. 

I dont know.

Maybe its technicalities based on him being Global Football Director for Five clubs..... what the coorect way of working out points

Points Based System

Posted
40 minutes ago, leesaint88 said:

It's very odd - I assume he meets the standard quota of having a job offer and stable finances. I can only assume there has been some errors on the paperwork, or they've missed any of the deadlines. 

Another SR fook-up then. Amateurs.

Posted
1 hour ago, Nolan said:

I dont know.

Maybe its technicalities based on him being Global Football Director for Five clubs..... what the coorect way of working out points

Points Based System

Could be. I imagine it could be something such as further clarification on tax etc. In my industry we get the occasional delays on work permits for some very straightforward reasons. 

Posted

My understanding is the FA have asked us to consider Tim Sherwood for the role as part of a campaign to realise the benefit of Brexit and #backthebrits

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Posted
40 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

Does anyone really think there would have been any issue of Liverpool or Man Utd wanted him?

Another conspiracy theory? 😂

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Posted
23 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

Derailing a thread with nonsense and not contributing again? Surely not. Pious fool. 

He's an embarrassment, 7 of his last 10 posts have been digs at other posts the other 3 have been moaning about Trump is Israel. Having spent the latter period of his career with his "skills" slowing being phased out by computer systems you'd think he'd make his retirement more meaningful, guess not. 

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, east-stand-nic said:

Derailing a thread with nonsense and not contributing again? Surely not. Pious fool. 

Derailing a thread? Really? Given your penchant for a conspiracy theory it was a valid question. I’ll ask it again. Do you believe that there is a different system in place for the likes of Liverpool and Manchester United to sign club executives from abroad than there is for Southampton FC?

As for your new mate, I wonder what his boss would think about him spending more time stalking a complete stranger on an internet football forum along with posting random pictures of horses and Austin Allegros than on his actual job?

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Posted
19 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Derailing a thread? Really? Given your penchant for a conspiracy theory it was a valid question. I’ll ask it again. Do you believe that there is a different system in place for the likes of Liverpool and Manchester United to sign club executives from abroad than there is for Southampton FC?

As for your new mate, I wonder what his boss would think about him spending more time stalking a complete stranger on an internet football forum along with posting random pictures of horses and Austin Allegros than on his actual job?

Yes, you clearly derailed the thread again by not contributing, just saying silly things with laughing emoji's. Now you know you did, you are a bit embarrassed and now are asking questions of my post which you should have done in the first place and you know it full well. Everyone knows the rules are bent more for bigger clubs. So where is the conspiracy theory? Stop derailing thread and calling names etc., and start contributing.

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Posted
21 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Derailing a thread? Really? Given your penchant for a conspiracy theory it was a valid question. I’ll ask it again. Do you believe that there is a different system in place for the likes of Liverpool and Manchester United to sign club executives from abroad than there is for Southampton FC?

As for your new mate, I wonder what his boss would think about him spending more time stalking a complete stranger on an internet football forum along with posting random pictures of horses and Austin Allegros than on his actual job?

my boss doesn't give a fuck what i do because I deliver what the company needs. It's not like your day when the pools of typists you managed would be chained to a desk only allowed to leave if they asked for your permission to go for a piss or when it was their scheduled coffee break LOL. An outdated view of the workplace much like you have an outdated view of the world. 

As for you SOG, you've got to stop blaming everything else for your internal reactions. You've also got to overcome this incredible arrogance you have that all 8 billion people in the world should see everything the way you do. These two things i believe are why you are a deeply unhappy person with a string of failed relationships, a work skill set that is now outdated and left in the 80s. It's also why you are spending your life trying to convince people on internet forums you're a really good guy. Change the first two things on this paragraph and you will change your life. Perhaps then your dog wont be your only friend.

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