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Winnersaint

Winnersaint

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1 hour ago, SNSUN said:

I went to school at Bearwood (many moons ago) so I'm very familiar with the area but I haven't been back since the new Reading training ground went in although I might see it if I move over that way (as I probably intend to at some point). Glad to hear they're doing well now even with the ownership situation hanging over their heads. While I'm a Berkshire boy born and bred I have no real strong feelings about Reading FC but they were the first opponents I saw when I went to my first Saints game (Elm Park, '96, FA Cup 3rd round), a few friends of mine support them and I went to school with their former owner so I am hoping they keep their heads above water.

The training ground bought some land from Bearwood College (now Reddam House) the golf course along Mole Rd and Bearwood Riding Centre where my daughter used to ride. Lots of changes in recent years though. Houses and new roads built seemingly everywhere around Wokingham. There is now a Winnersh relief road. 

 

 

Winnersaint

Winnersaint

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11 hours ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

My work colleague went up to Carlisle today and said the fans were buzzing. They're really grateful with what he's done with all the other crap going on at the club. Still can't quite work out what went wrong with us. 

They took 1300 up there which is impressive. I think he's one of a relatively new breed of manager who is first and foremost a 'good person' which is why he's carried the fans with him through the adversity in plenty that they've had. As to last season he wasn't right for what we needed post Jones who doesn't come into the category of being such a 'good person'. The way I saw it is probably not dissimilar to most. Ralph was losing the dressing room and should have been replaced in the summer not at the WC break, Jones tenure ensured the dressing room was lost and it was too big a job for Selles to turn around as the damage was already done. Plus we were shit which didn't help.

Barsiem

Barsiem

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12 hours ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

I think you're right. My work colleague went up to Carlisle today and said the fans were buzzing. They're really grateful with what he's done with all the other crap going on at the club.

Still can't quite work out what went wrong with us. At Stamford Bridge roughly this time last year, we were singing his praises. I genuinely think it was the squad that was so shit and not him.

Huge difference between managing at PL and managing L1.  Look at Jones for another example, doing great at Charlton after being a catastrophe for us.

And plenty who watched the Chelsea game at the time acknowledged that, whilst it was a great win, we rode our luck massively.  I felt at the time it was nuts to give Selles the job full time after one game

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The Kraken

The Kraken

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2 hours ago, Barsiem said:

Huge difference between managing at PL and managing L1.  Look at Jones for another example, doing great at Charlton after being a catastrophe for us.

And plenty who watched the Chelsea game at the time acknowledged that, whilst it was a great win, we rode our luck massively.  I felt at the time it was nuts to give Selles the job full time after one game

7 points from his first 6 games. Not what I’d call “great” tbf.

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The Cat

The Cat

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5 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

7 points from his first 6 games. Not what I’d call “great” tbf.

It's decent considering who they have played in that time and the fact that, like Reading, there's a terrible atmosphere at the club because fans want the owners out.

They got draws against Pompey and Bolton and won away at Derby. 

Probably end up one of those managers who is solid below the top flight. Similar to a lot of players. No disgrace in that, it's a very hard job and only the elite establish themselves as consistently good Premier League managers.

Barsiem

Barsiem

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52 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

7 points from his first 6 games. Not what I’d call “great” tbf.

Look at their form before those 7 games and tell me it's not a big improvement, particularly given who they've played in that time as The Cat points out

The Kraken

The Kraken

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10 minutes ago, Barsiem said:

Look at their form before those 7 games and tell me it's not a big improvement, particularly given who they've played in that time as The Cat points out

Oh it’s a definite improvement, and I’m sure he’ll do well there.

Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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With their owner defaulting to HMRC, everyone connected to the club will be hoping that there are no further points deducitons to drag them back into it. 

With us, he had been part of two failed regimes. To varying degrees, but still at the club. He did try his tactic, but it wasn't working and he was reduced to making sure all his post match interviews sounded the same ahead of his next job.  It needed an overhaul and there was no time left to do that.

Ironically, the consistency in his approach to disaster is a plus point at Reading, where disaster coems form many sources.

His background should make them a bit tighter at the back. He's got a decent coaching background so no reason why he can't do well at that level, and maybe higher.

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kitch

kitch

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Reading fans were chanting his name last night after Reading are all but safe in L1 after a 2-0 away win at Bristol Rovers. Happy for the guy, he seems a good bloke. Sure he was massively out of his depth here, but he cared and tbh the job he's done at Reading in such toxic circumstances?

Round of applause I'd say, it's done his stock no harm at all.

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Forester

Forester

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A good guy, put in an impossible situation with us.  In what other profession would you get your first role at the very top.  Like our squad last season, some promise but too young to be thrown together at once.

Pleased for Selles 

Winnersaint

Winnersaint

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On 10/04/2024 at 13:45, AlexLaw76 said:

fair play to him. What he has done at Reading has been remarkable

It is impressive but chatting to the more discerning mates locally they reckon he’s far from the finished article and one thinks he’s more a number 2 rather than head coach. That said he has been a figurehead for the club through their travails and it is good to here the locals speak so highly of him.

Badger

Badger

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Pleased it’s worked out for him.

He’s done a good job in difficult circumstances. Trouble for Reading  is that after one decent season he probably feels ready for ‘the next level’ and a mid-table Championship or a more ambitious and financially secure L1 club will take a punt on him.
 

 

 

 

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AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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1 hour ago, Thereisonlyonemickychannon said:

After our record loss to Man City today......we should bring back Ruben. He is doing wonders at Reading this season!

our standards THAT low?

qwertyell

qwertyell

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Dropped into a shit show that he clearly wasn't ready for with us, but he's doing brilliantly at Reading. 

Kept them up last season in spite of points deductions, transfer embargoes, and a team made up of youth players and bits found in a skip.

And now they're in the play off places - and above legend in his own lunchbox Nathan Jones' Charlton. 

Fair play. He may well be destined for better things.

Nice bloke as well.

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Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

our standards THAT low?

Mine aren't. We were utterly dreadful under Selles, lost almost every game and managed to get beaten by Grimsby in our own back yard. I'm glad he's doing alright for himself at Reading but honestly, it's League 1.

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Harry_SFC

Harry_SFC

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30 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Mine aren't. We were utterly dreadful under Selles, lost almost every game and managed to get beaten by Grimsby in our own back yard. I'm glad he's doing alright for himself at Reading but honestly, it's League 1.

You're quick to slag off Selles yet defend Martin for having an even worse record with no obvious signs of improvement? 

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Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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5 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

You're quick to slag off Selles yet defend Martin for having an even worse record with no obvious signs of improvement? 

That ‘even worse’ is being propped up by a JWP free kick and a win against an equally awful Leicester side. Martin got us promoted, has played half as many games in the PL and has a real chance of making a cup QF on Tuesday. If there’s no sign of any results by December, then I’d probably try a new manager.

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The Kraken

The Kraken

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49 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

A manager given time and patience?! What kind of asylum are they running at Reading?!

And why do you think they’ve given him time?

Fucking weird comparison.

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Bad Wolf

Bad Wolf

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42 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

And why do you think they’ve given him time?

Fucking weird comparison.

I haven't made any comparison? I'm simply pointing out how weird it is for a football club to give their manager time. It simply isn't the done thing.

Lord Duckhunter

Lord Duckhunter

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1 hour ago, LGTL said:

Still a better record in this division then Russ though 👍

Exactly. 
 

It’s laughable. He followed Jones (who also has a better record than Martin), had no pre season and a demoralised squad, as opposed to Lego who had a preseason and a club used to winning. Seems like a decent ent bloke handed a hospital pass, as opposed to an arrogant cock who acts like he’s nothing to learn at this level. 

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The Kraken

The Kraken

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1 hour ago, Bad Wolf said:

I haven't made any comparison? I'm simply pointing out how weird it is for a football club to give their manager time. It simply isn't the done thing.

Rueben Selles was appointed in June 2023. Are you genuinely suggesting that his term at Reading is an abnormality in terms of time given?  Hes been there less than 18 months. And he’s done really well for them. 
 

How on earth do you think that’s unusual?

Football Special

Football Special

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3 hours ago, Bad Wolf said:

A manager given time and patience?! What kind of asylum are they running at Reading?!

Ha are you trying to give Reading's board credit? The asylum is a mad house there, whole club is a mess, they have no idea what they are doing. 

Forester

Forester

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Selles, like many of our signings that season, was way too inexperienced to cope, let alone thrive, in hopelessly difficult circumstances.  I thought he would develop into a good manager and it appears he is.  It was madness to start in the Premier League, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets back there at some point.

Reading are a broke shambles and he is performing miracles up there.  The fans love him

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Mboto Gorge

Mboto Gorge

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3 hours ago, The Kraken said:

Rueben Selles was appointed in June 2023. Are you genuinely suggesting that his term at Reading is an abnormality in terms of time given?  Hes been there less than 18 months. And he’s done really well for them. 
 

How on earth do you think that’s unusual?

The guy is a clown, don’t take any notice of the drivel he posts. Usually spends most of his time criticising the fanbase, acting holier than thou despite having only supported the club for a few years. 

Pamplemousse

Pamplemousse

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15 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Exactly. 
 

It’s laughable. He followed Jones (who also has a better record than Martin), had no pre season and a demoralised squad, as opposed to Lego who had a preseason and a club used to winning. Seems like a decent ent bloke handed a hospital pass, as opposed to an arrogant cock who acts like he’s nothing to learn at this level. 

Martin doesn't have Ward-Prowse to bail us out

Bad Wolf

Bad Wolf

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11 hours ago, Mboto Gorge said:

The guy is a clown, don’t take any notice of the drivel he posts. Usually spends most of his time criticising the fanbase, acting holier than thou despite having only supported the club for a few years. 

Eh? I mean, I've supported the club for 20 years and though I appreciate that that's a fraction of other people's tenures as fans, I'm really not sure my age can be held against me for these purposes?

Edit: Another "clown" call. The only word football fans seem to know.

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Bad Wolf

Bad Wolf

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9 minutes ago, trousers said:

I think you're forgetting "muppet".... ;)

Oh isn't that a bit 2010? I think now it's:

Someone you don't agree with: Delusional / Clown

Someone who's made a valid counter argument but you don't want to admit it: Correct their spelling

A manager who's having a few bad games: No plan B

A player who's out of form: Overrated OR goes missing in big games (pick one)

EDIT: Sorry, forgot "clueless" which covers all of the scenarios above.

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trousers

trousers

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1 minute ago, Bad Wolf said:

Oh isn't that a bit 2010? I think now it's:

Someone you don't agree with: Delusional / Clown

Someone who's made a valid counter argument but you don't want to admit it: Correct their spelling

A manager who's having a few bad games: No plan B

A player who's out of form: Overrated OR goes missing in big games (pick one)

Muppet

 

 

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CB Fry

CB Fry

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18 hours ago, Bad Wolf said:

A manager given time and patience?! What kind of asylum are they running at Reading?!

He hasn't been given time and patience. He's been successful at Reading from the start.

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Bad Wolf

Bad Wolf

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1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

He hasn't been given time and patience. He's been successful at Reading from the start.

No he hasn't. Please go and read some of the comments on him within his first couple of months. They wanted him gone and were calling him every name under the sun.

Badger

Badger

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16 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

No he hasn't. Please go and read some of the comments on him within his first couple of months. They wanted him gone and were calling him every name under the sun.

Reading supporting friend is proof of this. 12 months ago was critical of his ‘bizarre substitutions’ and playing players out of position ( although did acknowledge contraints  he was working under).

They looked a good bet for relegation at one point. Having got out of that and at the end of season Selles had won them over.

Latest comment was that Selles was considering an approach from Cardiff, and Rdg we’re hoping he’d stay but don’t blame him if he walks with their ownership and financial issues 

Bad Wolf

Bad Wolf

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19 minutes ago, Badger said:

Reading supporting friend is proof of this. 12 months ago was critical of his ‘bizarre substitutions’ and playing players out of position ( although did acknowledge contraints  he was working under).

They looked a good bet for relegation at one point. Having got out of that and at the end of season Selles had won them over.

Latest comment was that Selles was considering an approach from Cardiff, and Rdg we’re hoping he’d stay but don’t blame him if he walks with their ownership and financial issues 

I followed him a lot in the first few months there. I made a point of reading the post match comments etc. He could do no right. He was their worst ever manager and, you guessed it a "clueless clown with no plan b" (as is every other manager apparently). He's now the best thing since sliced bread - Modern football fans in a nutshell.

Rooney made that transition in the space of half an hour yesterday mind.

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