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  On 26/02/2023 at 08:56, AlexLaw76 said:

For what? Playing Janny B?, for sticking with Bazunu? For playing Sully up front?

What is so fantastic about him?

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This. It’s what we all feared…he is not the Messiah, better than Jones for sure, but not capable of getting this shower of shite team to play Prem level football. To be fair to the guy, I don’t think there’s a Manager out there who could do much better with the tools at his disposal.

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CB Fry

CB Fry

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  On 26/02/2023 at 09:04, Saint Fan CaM said:

 To be fair to the guy, I don’t think there’s a Manager out there who could do much better with the tools at his disposal.

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£150m earlier Hasenhuttl kept us very safely in this division so that is obviously disputable. Unless genuinely you're saying that Romeu and Jack Stephens were completely irreplaceable.

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Ed Rooney

Ed Rooney

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  On 25/02/2023 at 21:48, Saint Gifford said:

Leeds did the right thing appointing a manager that can go in with no friends buddies or relationships. 
 

He has  gone in to dictate and play football and do a job. I think they will ultimately be ok.

We on the other hand have just gone back to a someone that is everyone’s best friend and all mates together. 
 

Cant help thinking it’s another Ole at Man U, Lamps at Chelsea, ect ect. 
 

Beer and skittles boys club. I’m sorry but we had to make an appointment that the players know there is a clear distinction between manager and player. 
 

Nothing wrong with Selles, fantastic coach. But that’s the point, a fantastic coach. 
 

 

 

 

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Wonder which part he has been coaching for the past couple of years, the part where we can’t defend, the part where we can’t tackle, the part where we don’t work hard, the tactical ineptness part, the finishing part or the part that means we can’t even pass the ball properly. 

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Weston Super Saint

Weston Super Saint

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  On 26/02/2023 at 11:18, Ed Rooney said:

Wonder which part he has been coaching for the past couple of years, the part where we can’t defend, the part where we can’t tackle, the part where we don’t work hard, the tactical ineptness part, the finishing part or the part that means we can’t even pass the ball properly. 

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He came in the summer and by all accounts was 'frozen out' for 8 games during calamity Jones's appointment.

Lord Duckhunter

Lord Duckhunter

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  On 26/02/2023 at 12:06, Weston Super Saint said:

He came in the summer and by all accounts was 'frozen out' for 8 games during calamity Jones's appointment.

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Don’t talk pony man. 
 

He was only “frozen out” when we lost. City, Palace & Everton he was at the forefront of our tactics,  and Wolves he was only “frozen out” at halftime. 

Weston Super Saint

Weston Super Saint

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  On 26/02/2023 at 12:18, Lord Duckhunter said:

Don’t talk pony man. 
 

He was only “frozen out” when we lost. City, Palace & Everton he was at the forefront of our tactics,  and Wolves he was only “frozen out” at halftime. 

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What did Jones's coaching team do then?  I'm assuming fuck all if Selles did everything.

Apparently, we're fucking geniuses on the training ground according to Rasmus.

Lord Duckhunter

Lord Duckhunter

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  On 26/02/2023 at 12:23, Weston Super Saint said:

What did Jones's coaching team do then?  I'm assuming fuck all if Selles did everything.

Apparently, we're fucking geniuses on the training ground according to Rasmus.

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It’s simple. Jones’ team were in charge for Brighton, Fulham, Forest, Villa, Brentford , & the second half against Wolves. The “brilliant “ RS the rest of the time. Do try and keep up. 

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CB Fry

CB Fry

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  On 26/02/2023 at 12:28, Lord Duckhunter said:

It’s simple. Jones’ team were in charge for Brighton, Fulham, Forest, Villa, Brentford , & the second half against Wolves. The “brilliant “ RS the rest of the time. Do try and keep up. 

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You're not taking it well, are you.

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coalman

coalman

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Yesterday's result doesn't mean Selles is rubbish in the same way the win at Chelsea didn't mean he's the Messiah. We've had one good game and one shit game. 

As Selles said in his press conference - the only game that matters is the next one.

It's a process. Question is whether how we learn from Saturday and what we do next.

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Saint86

Saint86

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Slight niggle that the players have got the cushty deal with a mananger they're mates with, and they somehow feel they can get away with less. The defending / lack of effort for the Leeds goal was shambolic and very telling re what they thinks re required levels. Hopefully wrong as I like selles. 

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pimpin4rizeal

pimpin4rizeal

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He needs to play this team it’s pretty obvious what our best line up

                    Not baz

kwp.       ABK.        Salisu.    Perraud 

                    Lavia 

              Jwp.        Alcaraz 

stuey.             Paul           Sulemana 

 

I mean come on  this team is the one and should pick itself

 an actual line up that suits us fits in our best players has Sula playing as a winger and has no complete liability’s in it 

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Badger

Badger

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  On 25/02/2023 at 19:57, bangkoksaint said:

Onuachu…. A poor man’s Peter Crouch and our new Carillo?

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Have to wonder, but hopefully he'll come good. I thought he caused more problems and a bit of panic the other week against Wolves which doesn't happen with Adams. 

Osvaldorama

Osvaldorama

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  On 27/02/2023 at 06:40, pimpin4rizeal said:

He needs to play this team it’s pretty obvious what our best line up

                    Not baz

kwp.       ABK.        Salisu.    Perraud 

                    Lavia 

              Jwp.        Alcaraz 

stuey.             Paul           Sulemana 

 

I mean come on  this team is the one and should pick itself

 an actual line up that suits us fits in our best players has Sula playing as a winger and has no complete liability’s in it 

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Agree with this, plus edozie off the bench. 
 

Mind boggling that we have had 2 managers since the WC, and they haven’t played anything close to our best xi once. 

OldNick

OldNick

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  On 27/02/2023 at 06:40, pimpin4rizeal said:

He needs to play this team it’s pretty obvious what our best line up

                    Not baz

kwp.       ABK.        Salisu.    Perraud 

                    Lavia 

              Jwp.        Alcaraz 

stuey.             Paul           Sulemana 

 

I mean come on  this team is the one and should pick itself

 an actual line up that suits us fits in our best players has Sula playing as a winger and has no complete liability’s in it 

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In your humble opinion of course, lol. 

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OldNick

OldNick

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  On 26/02/2023 at 11:14, CB Fry said:

£150m earlier Hasenhuttl kept us very safely in this division so that is obviously disputable. Unless genuinely you're saying that Romeu and Jack Stephens were completely irreplaceable.

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Are you saying that Ralph should have been kept on and the results from the last half of last season and the first half of this were ok? RH is part of our downfall, he oversaw the crumbling and poor results week on week. 

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OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint

OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint

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  On 27/02/2023 at 06:40, pimpin4rizeal said:

He needs to play this team it’s pretty obvious what our best line up

                    Not baz

kwp.       ABK.        Salisu.    Perraud 

                    Lavia 

              Jwp.        Alcaraz 

stuey.             Paul           Sulemana 

 

I mean come on  this team is the one and should pick itself

 an actual line up that suits us fits in our best players has Sula playing as a winger and has no complete liability’s in it 

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Totally agree. There's a lot of crap at the bottom of the league and this team has the set up to score goals. Sulemana needs to learn how to run off Tall Paul because against Chelsea he held up the ball and laid off better than I've seen Che ever do. Tell me I'm being thick but why, when we've got arguably the best dead ball specialist in the league, don't we have people running at the defence drawing free kicks? Only KWP when he cuts inside seems to do this. Can't they practice this? Like one poster once said, do they take a football to training?

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CB Fry

CB Fry

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  On 27/02/2023 at 12:52, OldNick said:

Are you saying that Ralph should have been kept on and the results from the last half of last season and the first half of this were ok? RH is part of our downfall, he oversaw the crumbling and poor results week on week. 

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No I am not saying that, thanks for asking x

aintforever

aintforever

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  On 27/02/2023 at 12:52, OldNick said:

Are you saying that Ralph should have been kept on and the results from the last half of last season and the first half of this were ok? RH is part of our downfall, he oversaw the crumbling and poor results week on week. 

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I think we would be in a better position now if we had kept Ralph on. The results last year were bad but Ralph never had this shower of shite squad anywhere near being relegated in any of his previous seasons.

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The Kraken

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  On 27/02/2023 at 19:42, aintforever said:

I think we would be in a better position now if we had kept Ralph on. The results last year were bad but Ralph never had this shower of shite squad anywhere near being relegated in any of his previous seasons.

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And this season? We were in the relegation zone when Ralph was sacked. We looked awful right up to that point.

Its a really low benchmark to say it, but almost any competent manager would’ve been better than Nathan Jones. That’s basically a gimme, the majority of the fanbase knew he was a complete dud from the outset, it was just a minority of divots like duckhunter who thought he’d be anything but shit. But Ralph was a bust, he was dialling it in and he’d lost the players just the same as Jones did. Ralph needed to go, but the club completely fucked up in who they appointed, and they wasted the world cup break on a complete fruitcake. Nathan Jones got 6 defeats from 7 so it goes without saying that Ralph or anyone would’ve done better than that. It doesn’t mean he should’ve been kept on.

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Master Bates

Master Bates

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  On 27/02/2023 at 06:40, pimpin4rizeal said:

He needs to play this team it’s pretty obvious what our best line up

                    Not baz

kwp.       ABK.        Salisu.    Perraud 

                    Lavia 

              Jwp.        Alcaraz 

stuey.             Paul           Sulemana 

 

I mean come on  this team is the one and should pick itself

 an actual line up that suits us fits in our best players has Sula playing as a winger and has no complete liability’s in it 

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McCarthy's gonna be back soon.

aintforever

aintforever

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  On 27/02/2023 at 19:53, The Kraken said:

And this season? We were in the relegation zone when Ralph was sacked. We looked awful right up to that point.

Its a really low benchmark to say it, but almost any competent manager would’ve been better than Nathan Jones. That’s basically a gimme, the majority of the fanbase knew he was a complete dud from the outset, it was just a minority of divots like duckhunter who thought he’d be anything but shit. But Ralph was a bust, he was dialling it in and he’d lost the players just the same as Jones did. Ralph needed to go, but the club completely fucked up in who they appointed, and they wasted the world cup break on a complete fruitcake. Nathan Jones got 6 defeats from 7 so it goes without saying that Ralph or anyone would’ve done better than that. It doesn’t mean he should’ve been kept on.

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I don’t think Ralph lost the players, they are just shit. When he was sacked we were in the relegation zone yes but we were only 3 points off 12th with 24 games left to play. Given the state of the squad that was probably doing ok.

 

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wild-saint

wild-saint

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How did anyone really think it was going to end well giving the managers job to the first team coach that has been responsible for “coaching” a team to one home win all season.  I can’t think of one player that has developed since the start of the season. Of course he wasn’t the main man but surely he has a significant amount or responsibility for the clusterfuck this season?

im unsure who’s are more deluded Sport Republic or the fans?

Weston Super Saint

Weston Super Saint

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  On 28/02/2023 at 06:09, wild-saint said:

How did anyone really think it was going to end well giving the managers job to the first team coach that has been responsible for “coaching” a team to one home win all season.  I can’t think of one player that has developed since the start of the season. Of course he wasn’t the main man but surely he has a significant amount or responsibility for the clusterfuck this season?

im unsure who’s are more deluded Sport Republic or the fans?

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Lavia?

Zorba

Zorba

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Has to be given a reasonable amount of time to implement changes. I hope this pre-planned bulk substitution thing on 60 minutes is a temporary fix for something (maybe until our new recruits are fit enough to run 90 mins in the Prem) but didn’t like it when NJ did it either. Smacks of desperation and not reading individual situations in the game well.

Weston Super Saint

Weston Super Saint

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  On 28/02/2023 at 07:25, SotonianWill said:

whilst he has been developed a bit, he was already our stand out player from the first few games so no difference

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How can something / someone be 'developed a bit', yet still be no different to what it / they were previously?  That makes no sense at all.

Either he's developed and got better (I believe he has), or he hasn't.

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OldNick

OldNick

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  On 28/02/2023 at 09:48, CB Fry said:

Huge thanks to the guy you spent three months salivating over because he was going to make us so aggressive and tough to beat.

 

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Salivating Lol. 

I will hold my hand up and say I thought we should give him a chance, but I did not want him in the first place. Iam a fair minded person and had the mindset that we had him and so best give him a chance. It has been a disaster but the recipe and ingredients had been mixed by your mate Ralph. 

Yes I do want us to be aggressive and tough to beat btw.

I do want us to become a club where we dont give the opposition a garland of flowers as they arrive. I want them to fear coming to SMS, and they wither under the atmosphere of an Elland Road, Anfield, Goodison Park etc. 

I do want us to be aggressive in the tackle

Use the dark arts, as we have been too nice for too long.

Too many fans want us to be loved by other clubs and worry what they think of us. What people have to realise that they say nice things about us due to the fact we make their lives easy. We give their fans a wonderful experience, an end of the ground so that they dilute our home advantage. 

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CB Fry

CB Fry

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  On 28/02/2023 at 10:11, OldNick said:

Salivating Lol. 

I will hold my hand up and say I thought we should give him a chance, but I did not want him in the first place. Iam a fair minded person and had the mindset that we had him and so best give him a chance. It has been a disaster but the recipe and ingredients had been mixed by your mate Ralph. 

Yes I do want us to be aggressive and tough to beat btw.

I do want us to become a club where we dont give the opposition a garland of flowers as they arrive. I want them to fear coming to SMS, and they wither under the atmosphere of an Elland Road, Anfield, Goodison Park etc. 

I do want us to be aggressive in the tackle

Use the dark arts, as we have been too nice for too long.

Too many fans want us to be loved by other clubs and worry what they think of us. What people have to realise that they say nice things about us due to the fact we make their lives easy. We give their fans a wonderful experience, an end of the ground so that they dilute our home advantage. 

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We never had any of that shite under Pochettino or Koeman when we finished 8th, 7th, 6th. We were just better organised with better players and effective management. 

You can do the "your mate Ralph" stuff as much as you like to me but I've said repeatedly that it was the correct decision to sack him when we did. It's all on here.

I look forward to seeing you quote me in a couple of weeks time to yet again try and pretend I still want Ralph in charge.  See you then.

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OldNick

OldNick

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  On 28/02/2023 at 10:22, CB Fry said:

We never had any of that shite under Pochettino or Koeman when we finished 8th, 7th, 6th. We were just better organised with better players and effective management. 

You can do the "your mate Ralph" stuff as much as you like to me but I've said repeatedly that it was the correct decision to sack him when we did. It's all on here.

I look forward to seeing you quote me in a couple of weeks time to yet again try and pretend I still want Ralph in charge.  See you then.

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You forgot to mention Puel in that list.

We can agree that Ralph needed to be gone as his team and performances were dire for more than just this season.

 

 

 

wild-saint

wild-saint

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  On 28/02/2023 at 10:11, OldNick said:

Salivating Lol. 

I will hold my hand up and say I thought we should give him a chance, but I did not want him in the first place. Iam a fair minded person and had the mindset that we had him and so best give him a chance. It has been a disaster but the recipe and ingredients had been mixed by your mate Ralph. 

Yes I do want us to be aggressive and tough to beat btw.

I do want us to become a club where we dont give the opposition a garland of flowers as they arrive. I want them to fear coming to SMS, and they wither under the atmosphere of an Elland Road, Anfield, Goodison Park etc. 

I do want us to be aggressive in the tackle

Use the dark arts, as we have been too nice for too long.

Too many fans want us to be loved by other clubs and worry what they think of us. What people have to realise that they say nice things about us due to the fact we make their lives easy. We give their fans a wonderful experience, an end of the ground so that they dilute our home advantage. 

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utter bollock, where have you got this dog shyte from? Fans want to see decent football and preferably wins and not necessarily in that order. 

 

 

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Dusic

Dusic

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  On 27/02/2023 at 06:40, pimpin4rizeal said:

He needs to play this team it’s pretty obvious what our best line up

                    Not baz

kwp.       ABK.        Salisu.    Perraud 

                    Lavia 

              Jwp.        Alcaraz 

stuey.             Paul           Sulemana 

 

I mean come on  this team is the one and should pick itself

 an actual line up that suits us fits in our best players has Sula playing as a winger and has no complete liability’s in it 

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Ive seen lots of people suggest this, and its has merits, but I can't be the only one that thinks Onuachu needs a partner? Might be different when you play in the top team in Belgium but playing this formation with the bottom team in the PL I think he would end up isolated and immobile.

Seeing as the only player aside from JWP who has proven he can score goals occassionally in the PL is Che Adams, I wonder if we go back to a front two with them and then Sulemana and someone else as the 10s in a 4-2-2-2?

We need to be picking the players most likely to score and for all his faults Adams is more likely to than most of the players in your suggested lineup.

bangkoksaint

bangkoksaint

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So much was wrong Saturday that only a blinding performance and score will do tomorrow. I was embarrassed by Saturday and seeing Bazunu time wasting from the off said an awful lot about our approach to the game. For me RS is not the second coming and I’m predicting that by the end of the season that pretty much everyone will want him gone.

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OldNick

OldNick

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  On 28/02/2023 at 12:05, aintforever said:

It's giving him that chance that has got us relegated.

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without a doubt, although we were heading that way with Ralph. Although Marche would have also done the same and the jury is out on Selles. 

Toussaint

Toussaint

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  On 28/02/2023 at 19:08, Dusic said:

Ive seen lots of people suggest this, and its has merits, but I can't be the only one that thinks Onuachu needs a partner? Might be different when you play in the top team in Belgium but playing this formation with the bottom team in the PL I think he would end up isolated and immobile.

Seeing as the only player aside from JWP who has proven he can score goals occassionally in the PL is Che Adams, I wonder if we go back to a front two with them and then Sulemana and someone else as the 10s in a 4-2-2-2?

We need to be picking the players most likely to score and for all his faults Adams is more likely to than most of the players in your suggested lineup.

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It's worth a go, its painful to watch Tall Paul win all these balls and there is none within 20 yards of him to pick up the knock down or lay off.

Toussaint

Toussaint

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  On 01/03/2023 at 09:33, AlexLaw76 said:

Does he win all these balls though?

 

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I thought he was really good at Chelsea. Even if he doesn’t win the ball there is usually a second ball up for grabs, at Leeds there was no one anywhere near him, ever, very frustrating to watch.

Ted Bates Statue

Ted Bates Statue

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  On 28/02/2023 at 19:08, Dusic said:

Ive seen lots of people suggest this, and its has merits, but I can't be the only one that thinks Onuachu needs a partner? Might be different when you play in the top team in Belgium but playing this formation with the bottom team in the PL I think he would end up isolated and immobile.

Seeing as the only player aside from JWP who has proven he can score goals occassionally in the PL is Che Adams, I wonder if we go back to a front two with them and then Sulemana and someone else as the 10s in a 4-2-2-2?

We need to be picking the players most likely to score and for all his faults Adams is more likely to than most of the players in your suggested lineup.

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Absolutely agree with this, I thought that would be the intended striker partnership when Tall Paul arrived but Che has been injured for a while and won't feature tonight. Fingers crossed he comes back soon as he is our best bet in open play.

James G

James G

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  On 28/02/2023 at 19:08, Dusic said:

Ive seen lots of people suggest this, and its has merits, but I can't be the only one that thinks Onuachu needs a partner? Might be different when you play in the top team in Belgium but playing this formation with the bottom team in the PL I think he would end up isolated and immobile.

Seeing as the only player aside from JWP who has proven he can score goals occassionally in the PL is Che Adams, I wonder if we go back to a front two with them and then Sulemana and someone else as the 10s in a 4-2-2-2?

We need to be picking the players most likely to score and for all his faults Adams is more likely to than most of the players in your suggested lineup.

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I think a 4-4-2 setup is the best one for the players in the team. It's the classic one you grow up playing, and for tall Paul, it makes more sense to stretch the play sometimes and cross balls in. A 4-2-2 setup can be quite narrow sometimes 

Toussaint

Toussaint

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  On 01/03/2023 at 11:00, James G said:

I think a 4-4-2 setup is the best one for the players in the team. It's the classic one you grow up playing, and for tall Paul, it makes more sense to stretch the play sometimes and cross balls in. A 4-2-2 setup can be quite narrow sometimes 

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Too narrow, and when it goes wrong, it goes badly wrong. Chelsea had acres in wide areas, how they did not exploit it is a mystery. Commitment to 4 2 2 2 was Ralph's downfall IMO, I am really worried that this is all that Sellles knows, thought he could pick a settled team, albeit with a couple of glaring weaknesses, and set the infamous "playbook" to work. 

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