Saints 3-0 Swansea - Match Thread

Suhari · Sunday at 20:04

13 minutes ago, Costa del Solent said:

Got his cock out and did a ‘windmill’ in front of the family section. Heard shouting, ‘come on then, Burnley; you want some? Come get some’

Nice to see a bit of passion.

A windmill you say, on a chilly day like today?

Impressive.

Chez · Sunday at 20:04

Lots of Prem v Prem 4th round ties which will get a rid of a few. Nice.

skintsaint · Sunday at 20:05

3 minutes ago, macca155 said:

Fernandes was the pick for me, he looks a top grade Premier league player. They'll be a fight for him as well.

Amorim is a fan and didn't want to sell him at Sporting.

Harry_SFC · Sunday at 20:08

5 minutes ago, macca155 said:

Considering that Saints haven't been able to score, defend, or barely get out of their half recently, I'll take a 3 0 win, no matter how limited the opposition.

Sulenana played well first half. Problem is Premier league defenders don't fall for his twisty turny trucks. Nevertheless he put in a proper shift, tracking back and everything. Good to see. Judging by the way he came off I suspect that's his last game for Saints. Seemed to be quite a few goodbyes going on.

Pretty standard for the rest. Tyler's bored teenager act is starting to grate a bit, but the lad has an uncanny knack of turning any player anytime he wants. Big bucks coming in for him.

Fernandes was the pick for me, he looks a top grade Premier league player. They'll be a fight for him as well.

Fernandes is our best player pretty much every time he plays. People will be talking about Dibling but Fernandes is a more rounded player (he is a couple of years older tbf)

Forester · Sunday at 20:16

Enjoyed that, glad I went and sad that so many didn’t get to see a rare win. And given the draw we have a decent chance of being in the last 16, so let’s give the cup a real go.

I thought our best performances were Bree, Aribo, Big Les, Fernandes and Kamaldeen. More generally it is obvious that Juric is trying to get us much more front foot and pressing opponents all over the pitch, along with getting the ball forward. Both get the thumbs up from me.

Sadly I think we are doomed, but a positive use of the remaining months of the season for me would be developing the style of play, which is a huge adjustment from Martin, starting to perform more effectively with some results coming in and feeling in good shape heading into the championship without another managerial change and all that comes with it. And a cup run would make it even better.

Challenger · Sunday at 20:16

25 minutes ago, Costa del Solent said:

Got his cock out and did a ‘windmill’ in front of the family section. Heard shouting, ‘come on then, Burnley; you want some? Come get some’

Nice to see a bit of passion.

Much less cringeworthy than a Ralph "blub" after a win.

macca155 · Sunday at 20:34

27 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

Amorim is a fan and didn't want to sell him at Sporting.

Blast, we'll that's that then. Although he is on a long contract so the club are at least in the driving seat.

Mixedkebab · Sunday at 20:36

At least the team looked interested and up for it which is a good sign under Ivan

Only players I’d be arsed about keeping for the championship are Ramsdale and KWP (unlikely) Fernandes and Dibling.

Potentially other useful ones in that division Armstrong, Downes, Bree, Wood, Bednarek, Taylor, THB, Lesley

Maybe Sulemana will finally start to show something otherwise he can go along with all the other crap

Edited Sunday at 20:39 by Mixedkebab

Gloucester Saint · Sunday at 20:39

1 hour ago, AllyD said:

Too good for the Championship not good enough for the Premiership!

Also known as Norwich City syndrome, Birmingham City before that and Leeds United/Burnley next season.

spyinthesky · Sunday at 21:02

I have always thought that KWP could improve our midfield by playing in front of a right back and thought he did very well in that position.
We will miss him when he moves on.
Thought Fernandes was our best player by some distance and another who wont be with us next season

chivvy · Sunday at 21:08

Think we saw juric will always be a 3 at the back formation..

Chez · Sunday at 21:19

18 minutes ago, Forester said:

More generally it is obvious that Juric is trying to get us much more front foot and pressing opponents all over the pitch, along with getting the ball forward. Both get the thumbs up from me.

Got to say that the difference in style and tactics isn't terribly obvious to me. Our press is just as easy to play through. I don't see us getting particularly tight or putting defenders under much pressure. Perhaps we did today, but Swansea reserve defenders just are not good enough to play it out from the back.

I see our keeper going long a bit more often, a few less triangle passes to try to work the ball out and retain possession and in the West Ham game we crossed the ball first time, but other than that?

It's early days, so I am not moaning here, but I doubt there are not many that watched the Brentford game that are going to agree that we have improved a great deal.

S-Clarke · Sunday at 21:39

It's certainly nice to see a win for a change, a very rare event.

It's hard to read much into it though, we were playing against a L1 standard team really what with the players Swansea were missing - but you still have to turn up, and we did. It was a very comfortable and straight forward win.

I find it hard to get too excited though based on what we've had to endure the past 5 months. Not worth getting too carried away with details or individuals as it was such a low standard of opposition.

tdmickey3 · Sunday at 21:45

2 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

KWP will go, but the rest are under contract. I would keep them for a season.

So would I but SR will probably take the ££

austsaint · Sunday at 21:51

3 hours ago, trousers said:

One of Russ's favourite players no less. Will be interesting to see if Juric develops the same infatuation over time...

One of the tests for Juric (in my mind) will be how quickly he works out that WS should be plying his trade back at Stoke, or Swansea.

DT · Sunday at 21:58

Thought Fernandez was brilliant tonight. And Lesley. How Dibling got MoM is beyond me. Great to see Saints win again though. Even enjoyed the fan zone thing. And Sulemana actually looked ok. What a good day. Predicted 3-0 but didn’t put a bet on. Damn.

die Mannyschaft · Sunday at 22:58

Better all round overall and a win.

davefizzy14 · Sunday at 22:59

It was great to get a comfortable win, a cleansheet and get into the fourth round 😊 (another home draw). Liked the pressing style of play that Jurić has brought. Sulemana was really good, with his lightning pace and the lobbed finish was class 😊 Dibling was class with two neat finishes 😊 I thought Fernandes and KWP were excellent too. Ramsdale too with a fantastic stop in the second half. COYR 😊

Jonnyboy · Monday at 00:00

3 hours ago, Suhari said:

A windmill you say, on a chilly day like today?

Impressive.

Don't tell Ivor Caplin

SaintBobby · Monday at 02:07

When was our last straightforward win before this one? I forget!

Just grateful to be reminded how easy it is to beat run-of-the-mill Championship teams...a feeling I hope to get used to again next season.

Charlie Wayman · Monday at 07:51

11 hours ago, Harry_SFC said:

Fernandes is our best player pretty much every time he plays. People will be talking about Dibling but Fernandes is a more rounded player (he is a couple of years older tbf)

On today's showing we have to be excited about the near future prospect of a front three of Fernades, Dibling & Sulemana under Juric. All three fast, tricky and good on the ball. At last an really exciting strike force when fully developed to frighten any defence in the country.

Charlie Wayman · Monday at 07:55

10 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

It's certainly nice to see a win for a change, a very rare event.

It's hard to read much into it though, we were playing against a L1 standard team really what with the players Swansea were missing - but you still have to turn up, and we did. It was a very comfortable and straight forward win.

I find it hard to get too excited though based on what we've had to endure the past 5 months. Not worth getting too carried away with details or individuals as it was such a low standard of opposition.

"We only ever beat poor teams" of course. Silly me for thinking we played well

trousers · Monday at 08:37

43 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said:

"We only ever beat poor teams" of course. Silly me for thinking we played well

"Playing well" and "Only beating poor teams" aren't mutually exclusive statements Charlie darling...

Edited Monday at 08:38 by trousers

ChristopheVAFC · Monday at 09:01

Hello friends, I hope you're well.

I followed your team's score yesterday and I'm pleased that you won yesterday at Saint Mary's and in style.

I hope that this victory will help the team to regain confidence and start building positive momentum for the future.

It's going to be a long road and it's going to take time, but I hope that things will get better for you very soon.

Have a great week, my friends.

suewhistle · Monday at 09:36

I take some positivity from the fact that a few mistakes apart that was a comfortable victory and we know how that is not a foregone conclusion for us against lower league sides. To what do we ascribe Sulemanna's improved performance: the opposition, our formation, his instructions, his motivation (playing for a move..)?

Secret Site Agent · Monday at 10:04

15 hours ago, benjii said:

"You must be really pleased?"

- Yes.

"Is that the best you've ever played?".

- No.

He learnt that from Roy Keen, who is already trying to convince him Man Utd should be his future.

John Boy Saint · Monday at 10:06

Considering how fragile we have appeared this season, good to see we set out to win with an honest line up. We are in the next round and didn’t suffer like Brentford at the hands of Plymouth to dent moral further.

Shame they have ruined the format of the cup just for the big boys - Tamworth were deserving of a replay pay day v Spurs.

gio1saints · Monday at 10:06

15 minutes ago, suewhistle said:

I take some positivity from the fact that a few mistakes apart that was a comfortable victory and we know how that is not a foregone conclusion for us against lower league sides. To what do we ascribe Sulemanna's improved performance: the opposition, our formation, his instructions, his motivation (playing for a move..)?

Agree.
He was playing against L1 standard defenders was the main reason.
The second ( imo) is he was being watched by scouts ( from Genoa apparently) because I don’t think he will be up for playing Championship football with Saints next year - everything about him and the situation he’s been in shouts he will want to be sold before he ever gets picked to play for us in the Championship.

I think Juric will certainly make the case to SR that KS is a potential difference maker up front that may be our salvation - and SR might agree on the basis that if he gets a handful of goals at EPL it won’t do his resale value any harm - so unless it’s a very meaty offer in the Jan window ( over £15m nearer £20m id say) I think he will be playing a lot more for Saints between now and end of season - if he’s not sold.

What won’t happen is that he won’t even make match day squad anymore- which I always thought was crazy given our best tricky winger got sent away start of season ( Sam E).

gecko · Monday at 10:59

14 hours ago, Harry_SFC said:

Fernandes is our best player pretty much every time he plays. People will be talking about Dibling but Fernandes is a more rounded player (he is a couple of years older tbf)

Have to say that Fernandes is the one I think I'll be most disappointed to lose if he's gone in the inevitable relegation.

The one time the SR scouting has unearthed an actual gem, for a bargain price, he's only 20, and we look likely to have him for a single season - kid's definitely going places, looks a class above the rest of the squad every time I see him play.

Fingers crossed SR hold him to his contract, as he'll destroy the Champ

SWLondon Saint · Monday at 12:54

1 hour ago, gecko said:

Have to say that Fernandes is the one I think I'll be most disappointed to lose if he's gone in the inevitable relegation.

The one time the SR scouting has unearthed an actual gem, for a bargain price, he's only 20, and we look likely to have him for a single season - kid's definitely going places, looks a class above the rest of the squad every time I see him play.

Fingers crossed SR hold him to his contract, as he'll destroy the Champ

Agree completely, though he 100% won't be with us in the Champ. Even at a Lavia type price he'd be an absolute bargain for a top club as he's been battle tested in the worst possible environment and he's never given up, never shirked the hard yards, they know exactly what they'll get from him and he's still young and could improve more. And he seems to be really tough and not injury prone too.

SW11_Saint · Monday at 13:30

What was the attendance yesterday? Can’t find it published anywhere. Blackmore said the club had reported selling 17k tickets but it didn’t look that much. The board hiding the figure due to embarrassment?

They need to make Burnley £10 (£5 for kids), we’d get a decent gate then…

goodymatt · Monday at 13:33

2 minutes ago, SW11_Saint said:

What was the attendance yesterday? Can’t find it published anywhere. Blackmore said the club had reported selling 17k tickets but it didn’t look that much. The board hiding the figure due to embarrassment?

They need to make Burnley £10 (£5 for kids), we’d get a decent gate then…

Attendance was 12,120. 600 of those being Swans.

SW11_Saint · Monday at 13:43

9 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

Attendance was 12,120. 600 of those being Swans.

Jeez…

EssEffCee · Monday at 14:58

1 hour ago, goodymatt said:

Attendance was 12,120. 600 of those being Swans.

When was our last crowd that low? I seem to remember a Norwich replay with about 13k

goodymatt · Monday at 15:05

3 minutes ago, EssEffCee said:

When was our last crowd that low? I seem to remember a Norwich replay with about 13k

Must be up there with our lowest attendance at St Mary’s for a competitive game. Did read the other day someone concerned we might not beat an 8k figure we had for an early cup round game previously - can’t find who that would have been against (any stattos on here that can answer?).

Even on our way down the leagues we were 15k minimum. Shows the mood of the fanbase at present.

trousers · Monday at 15:14

1 hour ago, goodymatt said:

Attendance was 12,120. 600 of those being Swans.

20 minutes ago, EssEffCee said:

When was our last crowd that low? I seem to remember a Norwich replay with about 13k

Ever, or in a particular competion? I think this is our lowest ever attendance figure for a competitve first team game at St Mary's....

Our lowest attendance for a league match at St. Mary's was vs Sheff Utd on 3rd February 2009....the grand total of 13,257.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/7869841.stm

Edited Monday at 15:19 by trousers

trousers · Monday at 15:18

4 minutes ago, trousers said:

...

Edited Monday at 15:18 by trousers

goodymatt · Monday at 15:19

Great detective work Trousers, thanks.

sfc4prem · Monday at 15:45

38 minutes ago, trousers said:

Ever, or in a particular competion? I think this is our lowest ever attendance figure for a competitve first team game at St Mary's....

Our lowest attendance for a league match at St. Mary's was vs Sheff Utd on 3rd February 2009....the grand total of 13,257.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/7869841.stm

It is the lowest attendance weve had in the FA Cup. That's poor!

I remember us beating Luton in the FA Cup with a Rickie Lambert free kick back in the L1 days, even at our depths 12.5k is a bloody low attendance at SMS...

Edited Monday at 15:54 by sfc4prem

Lee On Solent Saint · Monday at 17:04

6 hours ago, gio1saints said:

I don’t think he will be up for playing Championship football with Saints next year - everything about him and the situation he’s been in shouts he will want to be sold before he ever gets picked to play for us in the Championship.

He did last season, albeit not many starts.

Badger · Monday at 17:24

For an FA Cup tie, I'll just throw this into the mix.

This was second round. Cheltenham were in L2.

Only 50% possession. Surprising Adkins saw the season out.

Badger · Monday at 17:26

If anyone wants to read more on the Cheltenham epic encounter:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/fa_cup/9206838.stm

OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint · Monday at 17:48

7 hours ago, gio1saints said:

He was playing against L1 standard defenders was the main reason.
The second ( imo) is he was being watched by scouts ( from Genoa apparently) because I don’t think he will be up for playing Championship football with Saints next year - everything about him and the situation he’s been in shouts he will want to be sold before he ever gets picked to play for us in the Championship

Thought Juric was brave playing Sulemana. It could have halved his sale value!

Not buying in to 'there's a player in there' nonsense. Still think he's Shit, with a capital S! He should be running at players and running on to knocked on headers etc all day long - and against a weak Swansea team, he only did it once or twice.

Football Special · Monday at 17:48

2 hours ago, trousers said:

Ever, or in a particular competion? I think this is our lowest ever attendance figure for a competitve first team game at St Mary's....

Our lowest attendance for a league match at St. Mary's was vs Sheff Utd on 3rd February 2009....the grand total of 13,257.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/7869841.stm

I reckon Torquay at home JPT might be even lower than that

Football Special · Monday at 17:51

Torquay home league cup 1st round 2011 there was a crowd of 6,541

Matthew Le God · Monday at 17:51

LuckyNumber7 · Monday at 18:00

33 minutes ago, Badger said:

If anyone wants to read more on the Cheltenham epic encounter:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/fa_cup/9206838.stm

Interesting looking at the other results that day. Brighton drawing 1-1 with FC United!

Football Special · Monday at 18:09

4 hours ago, goodymatt said:

Attendance was 12,120. 600 of those being Swans.

It is poor, just a year ago we had double v Walsall, it's a message to the board but I doubt they care. Newcastle home already saying it's "sold out" ticket exchange open

Anyway i enjoyed it, was nice spreading out in the stand, watching a comfortable win for once, Fernandes running the show. Made a nice change.

Chez · Monday at 18:12

45 minutes ago, Badger said:

For an FA Cup tie, I'll just throw this into the mix.

This was second round. Cheltenham were in L2.

Only 50% possession. Surprising Adkins saw the season out.

I went to that game. It put me off going to similar early round vs smaller team type games. Everyone was sat down in the Itchen stand, there was no atmosphere and it felt like a wasted afternoon to be honest.

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