Window Cleaner Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 Its a shame. How much of the fee will Wotte TF get to bring in a replacement. WE WON'T GET A FEE. This "transfer" is completely under the radar and therefore must be to some non-entity club or other. If we end up getting shot of him without actually paying somebody to take him off our hands we'll be lucky. I think he's an OK player,when he wants to be, but you just can't deal with his sort of blowing hot and cold and always wanting to be off somewhere else. Marseille found out the hard way,the one the causes intense pain about wallet high, so have we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 Mediocre at best,would've liked to of seen him play in a free role behind a front two,which IMO we would of seen the best of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 I suspect he had to ask for a transfer to get his release. The club wouldn't have to pay up his contract. They will then save a tidy sum. It's probably Hertha or another German side, he was made too expensive in the summer due to the fee required plus his contract, Hertha walked away because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fen Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 Saves over £500k a year! Alright player but hasn't really lived up to his fee, although hasn't really played in his favoured position. I for one am not really bothered by him leaving but wish him all the best and hope he can find the form that made us paid £1.6m for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 Mediocre at best,would've liked to of seen him play in a free role behind a front two,which IMO we would of seen the best of him. For £1.6 Million I would have thought he was going to be a far better player than he turned out. We cant have bought many defenders/midfield players for that amount when we were in the Premiership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 We cant have bought many defenders/midfield players for that amount when we were in the Premiership cough cough...Rory Delap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 For £1.6 Million I would have thought he was going to be a far better player than he turned out. We cant have bought many defenders/midfield players for that amount when we were in the Premiership We paid all that because Burley had a vastly overestimated opinion of the value of Scottish football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 cough cough...Rory Delap Or David Prutton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 Great timing with Holmes getting injured again. Looks like we will be seeing a lot of Smith and Molyneux. That's all we fvcking need :sad: If it was a choice between Skacel or Smith who would we choose? No brainer for me but yet more experience out of the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwaySaint1 Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 You obviously were not at Burnley then! No but the scout from the club he is going to was. Another mercenary off the books, thank you Rupert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 Tbh the club has treated him like **** im not surprised he;s fed up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardjane Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 What an utter waste of money you have been Rudi. A winger without pace or skill and we paid £1.6m for you and gave you £10000 a week wages ! How did you ever score 16 goals in the Scotish Premier League that last season you were there !?!? We must be thankful for small mercies though and you have played well at left back this season. Saying that you have got some cheek being asked to be left out of the team when we have got so little end product from you for the sizeable outlay we made. He has made 60 starts for Saints, approx 40 in his favoured left wing position, which I think can definitely be classed as having been given a fair chance. He did play regularly 33 times in his first season and 16 games this season, the latter of which have been much better at left back . But don`t worry as for all you Rudi lovers out there we have a ready made replacement left winger who has no pace and skill either in Lee Holmes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team-saint Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 good luck to rudi in the future, treated like ****, just a toy of the club and who can blame him for leaving when he knows that the management of the club is completely wrong. i agree he can come over as uncommitted but in truth this is not because he doesn't care, just that he is too fat to run properly. even if left back wasn't his best position he did a job there and with the right guidance (e.g under someone like Pearson) I'm sure he could have been our best player this season, especially if he got himself fit which i don't think he ever was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 good luck to rudi in the future, treated like ****, just a toy of the club and who can blame him for leaving when he knows that the management of the club is completely wrong. i agree he can come over as uncommitted but in truth this is not because he doesn't care, just that he is too fat to run properly. even if left back wasn't his best position he did a job there and with the right guidance (e.g under someone like Pearson) I'm sure he could have been our best player this season, especially if he got himself fit which i don't think he ever was. Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 Brilliant. Disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 Saves over £500k a year! Alright player but hasn't really lived up to his fee, although hasn't really played in his favoured position. I for one am not really bothered by him leaving but wish him all the best and hope he can find the form that made us paid £1.6m for him. that is a worry another half million to be wasted on , what, 3 teenage rejects from the Conference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team-saint Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 Brilliant. Is that sarcasm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 As Alpine said ...hounded out... Good player wasted... Still never mind we have Smith,Moly"who",Gillet,Gobern and the like...brilliant eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 signed on high wages, promised promotion push, put out on loan last season not surprising, would have liked him to stay but do wonder if his performances are in proportion to his relative wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 As Alpine said ...hounded out... Good player wasted... Still never mind we have Smith,Moly"who",Gillet,Gobern and the like...brilliant eh? You forgot Pulis, has he even been on the bench yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 You forgot Pulis' date=' has he even been on the bench yet.[/quote'] He might turn out to be brilliant:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjphilsaint Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 I cannot think of a time when he has been of any particular use to us... Skacel that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 Or David Prutton. David Prutton was another player badly treated by Burley & SFC. Our midfield would have been considerably better had he & oakley still been together - in fact it would be better than what we have now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 No but the scout from the club he is going to was. Another mercenary off the books, thank you Rupert. The biggest mercenary at Southampton Football Club is Rupert bl00dy Lowe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 What an utter waste of money you have been Rudi. A winger without pace or skill and we paid £1.6m for you and gave you £10000 a week wages ! How did you ever score 16 goals in the Scotish Premier League that last season you were there !?!? We must be thankful for small mercies though and you have played well at left back this season. Saying that you have got some cheek being asked to be left out of the team when we have got so little end product from you for the sizeable outlay we made. He has made 60 starts for Saints, approx 40 in his favoured left wing position, which I think can definitely be classed as having been given a fair chance. He did play regularly 33 times in his first season and 16 games this season, the latter of which have been much better at left back . But don`t worry as for all you Rudi lovers out there we have a ready made replacement left winger who has no pace and skill either in Lee Holmes. My, you are a ray of sunshine arent you !! Rudi was shafted this season by the internal politics. Ok, left back wasnt his best position but he was never the worst Saints player on the pitch by a long long shot. I think its a shame we never got to see him in his best position, which was ironically against Norwich at home last season before he was loaned out to the German club, he was superb in that match. I also think your summary of Lee Holmes is extremely unfair. At the start of the season beofre he got injured he was IMHO our best player, he was the constant outlet for the midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreog Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 Flattered to deceive........the warnings were there from Hearts supporters when we signed him..........so no real surprise he's moving on...........just another of football's mercenary individuals, who will no doubt join another club and say "this is a great move for me" and spout the other usual drivel to satisfy the tabloid press........ then fade away yet again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardjane Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 My, you are a ray of sunshine arent you !! Rudi was shafted this season by the internal politics. Ok, left back wasnt his best position but he was never the worst Saints player on the pitch by a long long shot. I think its a shame we never got to see him in his best position, which was ironically against Norwich at home last season before he was loaned out to the German club, he was superb in that match. I also think your summary of Lee Holmes is extremely unfair. At the start of the season beofre he got injured he was IMHO our best player, he was the constant outlet for the midfield. If you call getting £10000 a week for playing 60 matches in the time he has been with us, two thirds of which he either looked like he couldn`t be bothered or simply wasn`t capable, getting shafted then I think all of us on here would willfully take a good shafting ! Lee Holmes does give balance to the left side as he is naturally left footed but my point is I don`t know how long you can expect to last as a wide man in the english game if you have neither the ability to beat a man and/or a good change of pace. And Holmes can`t cross as well as Rudi either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 (edited) TBH I only saw him play at first hand about 5 times, but each time he looked like one of only 2 or 3 players who actually gave a **** and tried their best. With variable results admittedly. Says more about our squad than him I suppose. Goodbye and Good luck Rudi, but any money saved is very welcome. Edited 29 January, 2009 by Plumstead_Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 As Alpine said ...hounded out... Good player wasted... Still never mind we have Smith,Moly"who",Gillet,Gobern and the like...brilliant eh? Hounded out by who? It was Crouch who shifted him out on loan last January after Rudi requested a move and when he returned he still wanted out of the club, however it was his high wage demands that meant his move to Ipswich fell through. It's quite simple in that he doesn't want to play for us and has not been hounded out. Agreed he is a good player and will sadly be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 never been a fan but he's better than the ****e Holmes and Smith. This is why we are struggling. The standard of player at the club at present is appauling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odiham saint Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 I think some people are being very harsh to Skacel on here, to be honest he was one of our best players the year we got to the play-offs in 2007. (so near yet so far)! That year him, Viafara, Baird and Jones were the spine of our team. Also anyone remember that 30-yarder at home last season in front of the chapel?! Against West Brom when we knew we would stuggle that season?! I think a lot of people have taken this as an opportunity to slag him off, just like a lot of people are doing to the British goverment over the state of the economy at the mo! :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 good luck to rudi in the future, treated like ****, just a toy of the club and who can blame him for leaving when he knows that the management of the club is completely wrong. i agree he can come over as uncommitted but in truth this is not because he doesn't care, just that he is too fat to run properly. even if left back wasn't his best position he did a job there and with the right guidance (e.g under someone like Pearson) I'm sure he could have been our best player this season, especially if he got himself fit which i don't think he ever was. By whom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 Bet you anything he will do a lot better at his next club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 The big picture is the era of the £8k - £15k a week footballer is drawing to a close at this football club - it may well be a long time before we see their like again . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 Bet you anything he will do a lot better at his next club. And that will be our loss :sad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 I think some people are being very harsh to Skacel on here, to be honest he was one of our best players the year we got to the play-offs in 2007. (so near yet so far)! behind Bale, Claus, Baird, Jones, Guthrie, Pele and Rasiak..and maybe even Saga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 £2m and all he did was wave. Plus i think he scored against Yeovil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Reigned Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 What an utter waste of money you have been Rudi. A winger without pace or skill and we paid £1.6m for you and gave you £10000 a week wages ! How did you ever score 16 goals in the Scotish Premier League that last season you were there !?!? We must be thankful for small mercies though and you have played well at left back this season. Saying that you have got some cheek being asked to be left out of the team when we have got so little end product from you for the sizeable outlay we made. He has made 60 starts for Saints, approx 40 in his favoured left wing position, which I think can definitely be classed as having been given a fair chance. He did play regularly 33 times in his first season and 16 games this season, the latter of which have been much better at left back . But don`t worry as for all you Rudi lovers out there we have a ready made replacement left winger who has no pace and skill either in Lee Holmes. Sums it all up rather nicely I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 Over priced very average player with an attitude problem. Good move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 30 January, 2009 Share Posted 30 January, 2009 Much better at left back than he ever was anywhere else. Came as a goal scoring winger and did nothing but flop. I actually cannot think of a game where I came away thinking he ever did anything other than decent. Did well for us at left back and fair play to him for that but other than that average at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 January, 2009 Share Posted 30 January, 2009 I cannot think of a time when he has been of any particular use to us... Skacel that is Utterly bizarre. Good luck Rudi, bet you will be glad to get away from the idiot fan contingent as much as the shiite management, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 January, 2009 Share Posted 30 January, 2009 Bet you anything he will do a lot better at his next club. Yep, my feeling too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 30 January, 2009 Share Posted 30 January, 2009 Bet you anything he will do a lot better at his next club. he hasnt been the only one to do that though just like there are many that left and did less at there next club. Bale and Theo have only shown glimpses and crouch never really got going, BT is another and im sure there are others. so good luck to him what ever happens. my opinion is that i am happy for him to go as I dont think we ever got the best out of him even when he was in his best position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfredKo Posted 30 January, 2009 Share Posted 30 January, 2009 Same as Anders Svensson, although never played as good as we think but is still our best midfield. His goals and assists as a left midfield and his goals from open play as a left back tell you all the truth. No matter how you slag him off, if you try to have a look at our current midfields in our squad and you will know he is too good to play for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 30 January, 2009 Share Posted 30 January, 2009 Very frustrating. Never fit enough for a solid 90 mins, fell over as if he was Italian, yet capable of some really good stuff if he could be bothered. A waste of talent of near Fabrician magnitude - he will probably look back at his career in 5 years time and think what he might have achieved if he could be arsed (or arguably if someone had pushed/cajoled him into giving 100%) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 30 January, 2009 Share Posted 30 January, 2009 Badly treated??? Lets see, we are paying him what, something like £6 to £9k a week? He chose to go out on loan rather than stay and help us stay up. He chose to stay here rather than go to Ipswich because of money. The poor love....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 30 January, 2009 Share Posted 30 January, 2009 Badly treated??? Lets see, we are paying him what, something like £6 to £9k a week? He chose to go out on loan rather than stay and help us stay up. He chose to stay here rather than go to Ipswich because of money. The poor love....... Was that his choice?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(not THE) Kevin Moore Posted 30 January, 2009 Share Posted 30 January, 2009 Skacel not as good as the hype suggested and not as good as he thinks he is... nothing he can do about the former, but there is a lot he can do about the latter. Has he EVER played well enough to justify the fee, the wages and the hype? Not on the many occasions I have watched him he hasn't, can't remember a single MOTM performance from the man who is 'supposed' to be our most creative player. As for Prutton, he has found his level now so bad example there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 30 January, 2009 Share Posted 30 January, 2009 He might turn out to be brilliant:rolleyes: In Blue Square South you mean ???:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKimish Posted 30 January, 2009 Share Posted 30 January, 2009 Badly treated??? Lets see, we are paying him what, something like £6 to £9k a week? He chose to go out on loan rather than stay and help us stay up. He chose to stay here rather than go to Ipswich because of money. The poor love....... I very much doubt he is being paid £6 a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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