Saints 0-5 Brentford - Match Thread

[AlexLaw76]

for those of you who want to relive the magic

 

[AlexLaw76]

8 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

 Three games into Juric’s tenure, people are already having grumblings and perhaps the worst part is he’s had probably the best three, winnable fixtures a new manager could have prayed for.

 

LOL

[Farmer Saint]

5 hours ago, Forester said:

Farmer, I happen to think Brexit always was going to be, and has been, an absolute disaster.  But turning to your analogy, have you considered that two things may coexist?  Specifically that the players lack quality, but that also Martin attempting champagne football from the defenders of said poor quality squad and never deviating is madness?

Absolutely, not absolving Martin of anything on this, but numerous posters deciding this is all on Martin is disingenuous and incorrect.

[austsaint]

5 hours ago, Forester said:

Farmer, I happen to think Brexit always was going to be, and has been, an absolute disaster.  But turning to your analogy, have you considered that two things may coexist?  Specifically that the players lack quality, but that also Martin attempting champagne football from the defenders of said poor quality squad and never deviating is madness?

Indeed.  No one doubts we have a poor  squad of players - many of whom lack the Prem quality required.  But let’s not forget the crazy dogma of Martin’s game style, and also that he was responsible for many of the poor players recruited, especially after Wilcox left.  Juric deserves the rest of this season to straighten this mess out before any judgements are  made.

[Farmer Saint]

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

for those of you who want to relive the magic

 

Why do you take such pleasure in this? You've been one of the most vocal people for removing Martin since last year, and now you're posting with glee about us losing after replacing him.

I think the question "are you Pompey in disguise?" is a pertinent one for you.

[Monk]

7 hours ago, trousers said:

 

Enlighten me, are you Obamaring me off because you don’t know…

 

1; when did we do that?

2; why is that important?

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

12 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

A midfield that consisted of a kid the previous manager didn't fancy (and who left lots of space for them on Saturday and gave a away a penalty) and an out of position player who is a squad player on his better days.

After the game, there was a discussion on the concourse between people saying we can't score goals and other saying there was no midfield. Yes, we've been missing a striker for years, but that game showed that even with a solid back four, if you have no-one in midfield who can do a job, you will get walloped. I appreciate Fernandes was suspended and Downes is injured but having two carthorses in Les and Joe Aribo there was asking for trouble.

It still pisses me off that one of our worst players has one of our best songs!

[AlexLaw76]

1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said:

Why do you take such pleasure in this? You've been one of the most vocal people for removing Martin since last year, and now you're posting with glee about us losing after replacing him.

I think the question "are you Pompey in disguise?" is a pertinent one for you.

Jesus wept

[Whitey Grandad]

9 minutes ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

After the game, there was a discussion on the concourse between people saying we can't score goals and other saying there was no midfield. Yes, we've been missing a striker for years, but that game showed that even with a solid back four, if you have no-one in midfield who can do a job, you will get walloped. I appreciate Fernandes was suspended and Downes is injured but having two carthorses in Les and Joe Aribo there was asking for trouble.

It still pisses me off that one of our worst players has one of our best songs!

That’s one thing that it wasn’t. A back three with two wing backs who pushed forward and left our flanks exposed.

We were at least one player light in midfield as we have been for most of the season.

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

9 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

That’s one thing that it wasn’t. A back three with two wing backs who pushed forward and left our flanks exposed.

We were at least one player light in midfield as we have been for most of the season.

I agree Whitey. I was trying to make the point that any team with a solid back four can't compete if the midfield in front is non-existent. A less than solid three, with two wing backs on walkabouts just makes it even worse.

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

12 hours ago, Matt said:

after the 3rd goal went in Brerton Diaz, Lallana and Manning were warming up and Diaz found it hilarious, laughing and joking and trying to get Lallana involved.

Perhaps he knew he was off to Sheff Utd...or perhaps that made the club's decision for him!

[Farmer Saint]

34 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Jesus wept

#jurico

[kitch]

14 hours ago, HarvSFC said:

I'm still annoyed at this. Yes, the players are shit, fair enough, but if you're shit, at least work hard. We don't. Slow, pointless, low tempo football when in possession. Half jogging at players with the ball when out of possession. Not one Southampton player broke out into a sprint yesterday, on the ball, or off it. Complete joke. How many times over the last year have we seen Bazunu, McCarthy, Lumley and Ramsdale in possession and immediately getting swarmed, either giving a goal away, or conceding possession by kicking it in a hurry. The Brentford goalkeeper had the ball countless times and Sulemana and Onuachu just stand still, waiting for him to do something, when he's happy to keep the ball for a period of time because they're 1-0 up and can then just ping it to whoever he wants. Makes you long for the days of Shane Long, who scored the fastest goal in Premier League history by closing down a defender. Sulemana and Onuachu should have been hooked as soon as they stopped moving when Brentford had the ball near them. No excuses for that. Also, still, our players are afraid to make tackles. Keep backing off and backing off until the attacker finds themselves in our box. Attack the ball. The man with the ball is the most dangerous player on the pitch. It's basics of football that we've got wrong all season. Be it passing backwards, playing around our own box, not threatening the opposition goal, jogging half arsed around and refusing to close down a player with the ball. This awful three centre-back formation too. Watching Fulham vs Ipswich earlier, Fulham 1-0 down at half time bring off a centre-back for Smith-Rowe. Us, 1-0 down yesterday, bring off a centre-back and play Charlie Taylor there. We're getting overrun in the middle.

Brentford played against Arsenal on Wednesday evening, we had extra days to prepare (probably took them off) and they completely outworked and outclassed us. They're also in poor form themselves, no away wins this season before yesterday and had one win in their last six, with four defeats. But up steps Southampton.

On the topic of individuals. Sell Sulemana to whoever this window. Auction Onuachu off to Turkey, bidding starts at £1m. No good saying teams haven't bid high enough when he's awful like we did in the summer. I'm unsure of how he showed skills against Liverpool as he hasn't been able to control a ball since and doesn't win anything despite his height. Get both of those wasters off the wage bill. SAA's better than Sulemana. Sell Aribo in the summer. Downes and Charles can be our midfield next season, no space for him putting in a half arsed act on the pitch. Get Bree back as a backup. I wouldn't want him starting regularly in a good Championship team.

Then if we do come back up sell Bednarek, Armstrong, Manning, etc. No room for sentiment. Hammond, Chaplow, Sharp weren't giving this kind of charity when we came up under Adkins.

It's time we started acting like a Premier League club. We've been one for enough years. Two years ago under these owners we signed a load of youth and asked them to become immediate Premier League regulars and then appointed Nathan Jones and Ruben Selles. One year ago we signed a crocked striker for £10m in the Championship who's played about 90 minutes in total. Didn't replace our set piece coach, and now concede from set pieces for fun and fail to beat the first man in attacking set pieces. Replaced our DoF by promoting from within and giving a new title, has worked out as predicted and we scraped promotion through the play-offs, never threatening the top three. This summer we gave new contracts to McCarthy, Armstrong and Martin, who are all not good enough. And, on top of this, this summer we signed Lallana, Taylor, Edwards, Sugawara, Brereton-Diaz, Archer, Fraser and Cornet. Eight players who can't get into our team, so they aren't getting in any other team in the Premier League. Even Ugochukwu and Wood have only recently got into the team and Wood was subbed at half time, rounding it up to 10. One successful signing in Mateus Fernandes. We're a laughing stock both on and off the pitch, and that includes the Armstrong video that came out yesterday. Suppose it's all a show for those who buy the hospitality tickets. They're the ones SR are most interested in.

If Juric has anything about him, he'll be tearing into the team this week, getting them doing fitness drills, demanding that they press the opposition and whoever doesn't want to run gets dropped out of the team and can find another club to play for. We saw us go down without a fight under Jones and Selles and its happening again with many of the same group of players, funnily enough.

Hard to disagree with any of that.

[kitch]

10 hours ago, Toussaint said:

Where is Ryan Fraser? Not in the squad and not on the injured list. 

I don't think it really matters tbf

[Toussaint]

6 minutes ago, kitch said:

I don't think it really matters tbf

I do think it’s significant, no sign of him, no word about his absence, and in my opinion, although not great, he could have been a significant improvement on Sulemana et al. 

[TheAlehouseBrawlers]

What a fuckin wretched season this is, wake me up when we’re back in the Championship.

[trousers]

1 hour ago, Monk said:

Enlighten me, are you Obamaring me off because you don’t know…

 

1; when did we do that?

2; why is that important?

Apologies for my lack of clarity Monk... I simply have no idea what a "design studio advisory business" is! First time I've heard of it.

Edited Monday at 09:57 by trousers

[trousers]

3 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

Absolutely, not absolving Martin of anything on this, but numerous posters deciding this is all on Martin is disingenuous and incorrect.

Name 5 posters who believe our current predicament is 100% down to Martin and no other factors, e.g. quality of players, owner ineptitude.... (clue: there aren't any)

Edited Monday at 11:03 by trousers

[AlexLaw76]

1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said:

#jurico

#PSR

[lambtiss]

43 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

I do think it’s significant, no sign of him, no word about his absence, and in my opinion, although not great, he could have been a significant improvement on Sulemana et al. 

Sullemana has been so poor and disinterested that the only reason I can see for Saints starting him is out of forlorn desperation that he plays well ahead of the transfer window.

[lambtiss]

30 minutes ago, trousers said:

Name 5 posters who believe our current predictament is 100% down to Martin and no other factors, e.g. quality of players, owner ineptitude.... (clue: there aren't any)

Well put Trousers. I've not met one Saints fan who held the opinion that if we dispensed with RM we would suddenly become a solid PL team. It was just clear to most that his stubborn insistence on playing out from the back allayed with crab-like attacks was making things worse. His unwillingness to adapt was the final straw; it was just unfortunate that the management (sic) typically held on far too long giving a new manager no realistic chance of keeping us up.

[Toussaint]

45 minutes ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said:

What a fuckin wretched season this is, wake me up when we’re back in the Championship.

There is no reason to believe that next season will be any less wretched without radical reform within Sport Republic. 

[benjii]

30 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

There is no reason to believe that next season will be any less wretched without radical reform within Sport Republic. 

You think there is no reason to believe we will get more than 6 points in 20 games next season?

Do you?

Do you really?

 

 

 

 

 

Actually?

[benjii]

40 minutes ago, lambtiss said:

Sullemana has been so poor and disinterested that the only reason I can see for Saints starting him is out of forlorn desperation that he plays well ahead of the transfer window.

I haven't ever seen anything to suggesy he's disinterested. He does his best, he's just not PL standard.

[macca155]

30 minutes ago, lambtiss said:

Well put Trousers. I've not met one Saints fan who held the opinion that if we dispensed with RM we would suddenly become a solid PL team. It was just clear to most that his stubborn insistence on playing out from the back allayed with crab-like attacks was making things worse. His unwillingness to adapt was the final straw; it was just unfortunate that the management (sic) typically held on far too long giving a new manager no realistic chance of keeping us up.

Not that it is worth an argument but I think we all realised we were doomed when we witnessed the recruitment debacle.

Martin's niavety and stubbornness simply compounded that.

He was handed an impossible job by the SR idiots upstairs. Probably took more blame than he deserves but that's the job.

[Toussaint]

9 minutes ago, benjii said:

You think there is no reason to believe we will get more than 6 points in 20 games next season?

Do you?

Do you really?

 

 

 

 

 

Actually?

No I don’t, but the championship is an exponentially lower bar. In that circumstance I would define wretched as not achieving an immediate return to the premier league, against the background that a seemingly large number of fans think an immediate return is a given.

[benjii]

9 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

No I don’t, but the championship is an exponentially lower bar. In that circumstance I would define wretched as not achieving an immediate return to the premier league, against the background that a seemingly large number of fans think an immediate return is a given.

Yes, that would be quite wretched.

[lambtiss]

I'm afraid I have seen plenty of matches where the effort shown by Sullemana was negligible. Not showing for passes and then spurning the opportunity to take a player on have been typical of his performances this season. Contrast that with the player who tore Liverpool apart in the last match of our last PL season where we saw that the ceiling was potentially very high with Sullemana. Whether it is a lack of confidence or effort I haven't seen anything approaching that form this season (or last for that matter).

[saintwbu]

4 hours ago, austsaint said:

Indeed.  No one doubts we have a poor  squad of players - many of whom lack the Prem quality required.  But let’s not forget the crazy dogma of Martin’s game style, and also that he was responsible for many of the poor players recruited, especially after Wilcox left.  Juric deserves the rest of this season to straighten this mess out before any judgements are  made.

Reality is we have no idea who RM was responsible for recruiting. He’d be one of very few managers to have complete control of recruitment these days, if he’s responsible for all the signings of his tenure. I think it’s fair to suggest he was probably responsible for all of the ones who had played with or for him before; Downes, Manning, Fraser, Lumley, Wood - but the total outlay there is pretty small and almost all of it is for Downes, and the success rate of those signings - particularly last season - is pretty high i’d say. I find it hard to believe he identified Ugochukwu, Cornet, BBD, Taylor, Edwards all himself, and I find it especially hard to believe that he was pursuing Delap (who we’ve been after for years by all accounts) and then decided that upon missing out on him we would go for Archer, who is not remotely similar in style. 

[miserableoldgit]

6 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

for those of you who want to relive the magic

 

It amazes me that the Official App has a "Highlights" reel and a "Gallery" to remind us all of the momentous day!

[OldNick]

15 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

It hasn’t ‘lead us’ anywhere. Martin got the results he did with this useless squad of players. Three games into Juric’s tenure, people are already having grumblings and perhaps the worst part is he’s had probably the best three, winnable fixtures a new manager could have prayed for.

One day, after two completely different managers with different footballing strategies have had a go, people are going to have to accept that neither of them were the real problem. Remember, Juric came in with a reputation of setting his teams up hard to beat, at a club in a similar quality league to ours. We’ve just shipped five goals at home to the worst away team in the league. Sugawara did any interview saying how great it is that we’re now getting the ball and looking to get it forward asap. We’ve score one goal against West Ham, Palace and Brentford.

When will the penny finally drop? We’ve got sh*t players. Not ‘mediocre’, not ‘average’, at this level the vast majority of them are absolute dogsh*t.

If you are balanced and looked at who Brentford have played away, you will see that they had a tough run of games. Any team who comes to us and we have Aribo and Big Les as our midfield tells you we will get beaten everytime.

How can we have started the season with only one competent DM is madness.

[Dan Johnson]

Was at the game (although left after the 4th went in) and have watched the extended highlights, highlights and match of the day to truly roll myself in the shit and try and get some understanding of what the fuck we can do to at least get an ounce of self respect back.

Stating the obvious, The Midfield

With Downes and Fernandes out we were woefully short of any quality in midfield, to make matters infinitely worse, we played with 2 in midfield rather than 3, those 2 players are so far off premier league quality it's embarrassing. We absolutely have to play with 3 in midfield otherwise we just aren't remotely competitive. I'd start with a midfield 3 of Downes/Fernandes/Lallana and look to get at least 2 CMs in January. I'd try and get JWP back, he's not playing at Forest, maybe we could pull on his heart strings to come back and help save this club from the abyss, add more intensity back into this midfield.  

Lesley Ugochukwu might be one of the worst footballers I have seen in saints shirt, he must not care and probably isnt trying because there is no way he can be that woeful. He was at fault for the first goal, his lack of competitiveness in midfield, he was at fault for the header that hit the bar in the first half through poor marking, he was at fault for the disallowed goal through poor marking, he was at fault for the 2nd goal, not following Mbeumos run, He was at fault for the 3rd goal, he gave away the penalty, his lack of competitiveness in midfield led to the 4th. Send him back to Chelsea ASAP.

As much as I want Aribo to do well, he's just no where near the level we need to stay in this league, he was asked to do a job on Saturday that doesn't suit his game so I don't want to be too critical off his performance but even so his work rate alongside Ugochukwus just meant we were so pedestrian in midfield, we lacked any kind of intensity at all. The only difference between Aribo and Ugochukwu is that Aribo doesn't hide. 
 

The Defense

I have no idea how this has happened but our best CB on Saturday and for the last few games is a player we bought from League 1, Nathan Wood, we looked infinitely more exposed when he went off on Saturday.

Janny B/Harwood Bellis had absolute shockers, I think we need to take into account just how exposed they are and the lack of midfield protection, even so their confidence looks absolutely rock bottom. 

 

James Bree, he trys hard, he doesn't hide, he's just not good enough. 

 

KWP, our most attacking threat, making silly mistakes but probably the outfield player who comes out of Saturday with the least damage to his reputation. 

Sugawara, looked promising at the start of the season, looks like a rabbit in headlights at the moment and making silly mistakes again, think he could still come good if we get a settled/competitive team.

Charlie Taylor, not sure what went on, asked to play as part of a back 3, looked miles off it but a player who probably should be playing more considering the number of premier league starts he has under his belt. 

 

Attack

Tall Paul - Woeful, positional sense seems off, work rate has dropped massively since he came back into the side. Not sure how he's become this cult favorite who everyone thinks has been wrongly treated, the last 2 performances have shown why he was rightly a fringe player for long periods.

 

Sulemana -  I am not sure if he was asked to play alongside tall paul as a 2nd striker but he seemed intent on lingering up front and leaving KWP massively exposed. There was the off flash of quality, he had 1 good run and played a decent cross field ball, but that was his whole contribution. Doesnt work nearly hard enough for the team or defensively, feels like we're a man down when he's on the pitch

Dibling - Needs to come out the side now for me, he obviously has quality but I think his work rate defensively is sub standard. Showing less and less each game of what made us so excited about his talents, he's not strong enough in tackles, he's not doing enough defensively and he's not offering much going forward any more.

 

[OneMrsWallace]

5 hours ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

After the game, there was a discussion on the concourse between people saying we can't score goals and other saying there was no midfield. Yes, we've been missing a striker for years, but that game showed that even with a solid back four, if you have no-one in midfield who can do a job, you will get walloped. I appreciate Fernandes was suspended and Downes is injured but having two carthorses in Les and Joe Aribo there was asking for trouble.

It still pisses me off that one of our worst players has one of our best songs!

Seem to recall a few on here pre-match saying Aribo and Les together in the middle would be a disaster. It was  - but the rest decided to be shit too. 

[Toadhall Saint]

For the first time in nigh on half a century supporting SFC. We are crap with a capital C. I thought the new guy would at least shore up the defence but it’s got worse and don’t get me started about the non existent midfield. 

[Saint Keef]

For some time, I've had the belief that we are really, really bad. However I've just discovered that we are actually worse than that. We are a basket case thanks to the perpetual godawful decisions by our so called hierarchy!

[SaintStinger]

5 hours ago, lambtiss said:

I'm afraid I have seen plenty of matches where the effort shown by Sullemana was negligible. Not showing for passes and then spurning the opportunity to take a player on have been typical of his performances this season. Contrast that with the player who tore Liverpool apart in the last match of our last PL season where we saw that the ceiling was potentially very high with Sullemana. Whether it is a lack of confidence or effort I haven't seen anything approaching that form this season (or last for that matter).

 

I've mentioned it before but that game meant nothing to Liverpool, or us. They had a much changed side, including nearly the entire defence and had their, at the time 3rd choice keeper in. It was more of a farewell to Firmino game than anything else for them. I'm not convinced he would have torn apart their regular side with something to play for. He's hardly tore apart anyone else before or after, even in the championship which was really disappointing.

Saying all that I often wonder how some of these players would perform dropping them into Koeman's side high on confidence. Would he have gotten a better tune out of him? Would he have been any worse than Djuricic or Elia for eg? I miss those days. These constant hammerings are miserable.

[Rory Peepa]

Haven’t posted for years on here but this,shit show is getting my goat. I’ve been following for well over 25 years now and this is, by far, our worst side, at least relative to where we should be. I remember the 05 relegation. At least then we had some flair and scored a fair few goals. That team would absolutely wallop this one. Also, some of those saying the one that got us up from league 1 back in to championship would probably best us as well are probably right  they had guts, this lot have zero character  

since I’ve been following we’ve had a couple,e of decent spells. Strachan, walloping spurs in the cup, making the final. League cup final with no var and if van dijk had been for we would have won anyway. The hammering of villa. Mane, Pelle, tadic etc. marvellous. 
 

But what has turned me off football is the owners. It’s always the owners. Have shite owners and we have had more than our fair share- and you’re fucked. Not a chance. Not a level playing field. Meanwhile we have a few elite clubs who try everything to maintain the status quo, it’s hardly surprising that most of the team the same old clubs win and poor little saints get rogered up the arse most weeks. The custodians of football are doing a very poor job (still) of looking after the smaller clubs and we are not even small. Not really. 

premier league is not the be all and end all but to those who think we are likely to come straight back up - you must be mad! Managed to finish 4th last time when we should have really come first or second  

SR need to sell up and fuck off because I won’t be going until they do  

 

[Saintinnot]

6 hours ago, Dan Johnson said:

Was at the game (although left after the 4th went in) and have watched the extended highlights, highlights and match of the day to truly roll myself in the shit and try and get some understanding of what the fuck we can do to at least get an ounce of self respect back.

Stating the obvious, The Midfield

With Downes and Fernandes out we were woefully short of any quality in midfield, to make matters infinitely worse, we played with 2 in midfield rather than 3, those 2 players are so far off premier league quality it's embarrassing. We absolutely have to play with 3 in midfield otherwise we just aren't remotely competitive. I'd start with a midfield 3 of Downes/Fernandes/Lallana and look to get at least 2 CMs in January. I'd try and get JWP back, he's not playing at Forest, maybe we could pull on his heart strings to come back and help save this club from the abyss, add more intensity back into this midfield.  

Lesley Ugochukwu might be one of the worst footballers I have seen in saints shirt, he must not care and probably isnt trying because there is no way he can be that woeful. He was at fault for the first goal, his lack of competitiveness in midfield, he was at fault for the header that hit the bar in the first half through poor marking, he was at fault for the disallowed goal through poor marking, he was at fault for the 2nd goal, not following Mbeumos run, He was at fault for the 3rd goal, he gave away the penalty, his lack of competitiveness in midfield led to the 4th. Send him back to Chelsea ASAP.

As much as I want Aribo to do well, he's just no where near the level we need to stay in this league, he was asked to do a job on Saturday that doesn't suit his game so I don't want to be too critical off his performance but even so his work rate alongside Ugochukwus just meant we were so pedestrian in midfield, we lacked any kind of intensity at all. The only difference between Aribo and Ugochukwu is that Aribo doesn't hide. 
 

The Defense

I have no idea how this has happened but our best CB on Saturday and for the last few games is a player we bought from League 1, Nathan Wood, we looked infinitely more exposed when he went off on Saturday.

Janny B/Harwood Bellis had absolute shockers, I think we need to take into account just how exposed they are and the lack of midfield protection, even so their confidence looks absolutely rock bottom. 

 

James Bree, he trys hard, he doesn't hide, he's just not good enough. 

 

KWP, our most attacking threat, making silly mistakes but probably the outfield player who comes out of Saturday with the least damage to his reputation. 

Sugawara, looked promising at the start of the season, looks like a rabbit in headlights at the moment and making silly mistakes again, think he could still come good if we get a settled/competitive team.

Charlie Taylor, not sure what went on, asked to play as part of a back 3, looked miles off it but a player who probably should be playing more considering the number of premier league starts he has under his belt. 

 

Attack

Tall Paul - Woeful, positional sense seems off, work rate has dropped massively since he came back into the side. Not sure how he's become this cult favorite who everyone thinks has been wrongly treated, the last 2 performances have shown why he was rightly a fringe player for long periods.

 

Sulemana -  I am not sure if he was asked to play alongside tall paul as a 2nd striker but he seemed intent on lingering up front and leaving KWP massively exposed. There was the off flash of quality, he had 1 good run and played a decent cross field ball, but that was his whole contribution. Doesnt work nearly hard enough for the team or defensively, feels like we're a man down when he's on the pitch

Dibling - Needs to come out the side now for me, he obviously has quality but I think his work rate defensively is sub standard. Showing less and less each game of what made us so excited about his talents, he's not strong enough in tackles, he's not doing enough defensively and he's not offering much going forward any more.

 

Can't get JWP back - he's played for West Ham and Forest this season - against the rules to play for 3 different teams

[Marsdinho]

21 hours ago, Toussaint said:

Where is Ryan Fraser? Not in the squad and not on the injured list. 

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/crime/ryan-fraser-wanted-appeal-leeds-4932227

 

Think he's just laying low for a bit...

Edited Monday at 19:51 by Marsdinho

[Lighthouse]

15 minutes ago, Marsdinho said:

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/crime/ryan-fraser-wanted-appeal-leeds-4932227

 

Thinks he's just laying low for a bit...

I don’t think he linked to Rothwell that effectively last season but oh well.

[trousers]

42 minutes ago, Saintinnot said:

Can't get JWP back - he's played for West Ham and Forest this season - against the rules to play for 3 different teams

Other than 'rules for rules sake' why would the powers-that-be put an arbitrary cap on this? It's not as if a player could move clubs more than 3 times a season (realistically) anyway, given there are only two transfer windows, and it would no doubt be a rare occurrence anyway. What advantage and/or problem are they trying to suppress? (Probably something obvious that I'm missing)

Edited Monday at 19:46 by trousers

[Tommy Mulgrew]

On 05/01/2025 at 17:41, aintforever said:

Amazingly Sport Republic made us the worst team in Prem history, sacked the manager and made us even worse.

Not once, not twice, not thrice but four fucking times.  And SR are still here to potentially do it again in the summer.

”It’s hope that kills you” but I’m dead already.

 

[Tommy Mulgrew]

On 05/01/2025 at 19:30, Lord Duckhunter said:

That’s the spirit. 
 

 

 

On 05/01/2025 at 19:41, Badger said:

Put a few white stripes on him. Our new mascot.

Or CB 

Or defensive midfielder, or attacking midfielder, or striker, or wingback, or goalkeeper, or subs.

Or board of directors.

Or all of the above.

(And some of our fans, too.)

But never in a million years any saintsweb members.

😇

[SaintTex]

17 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

for those of you who want to relive the magic

 

 

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On 05/01/2025 at 18:23, Dr Who? said:

I have just got back into ice hockey. Used to watch the Guildford Flames 1996-1999. Great sport, fast, exciting, lots of goals for both teams and fights thrown in as well. When I moved back to Southampton used to travel up the the Spectrum to watch them as well. 

Now just popping over the border to watch the Solway Sharks. Don’t tend to win that much, but used to that. But with 2 games over the weekend you get more of a chance of winning. Also £1 for the boy to go and £14 for an adult. 7pm face-off and finishes around 21:30. Great fun and entertaining. Cannot believe I have been up here 9 years and only just found out they are 35 minutes away. 

Agree, I spend my money on watching ice hockey here in Switzerland and both my sons play for Rapperswil-Jona Lakers  (u11 & u15), its a great sport for the kids with 4x training a week and a minimum of one match on the weekend, although the 5am on-ice trainings before school are a bit hardcore, certainly makes you think about the mental strength of a 10 year old hockey player vs a 20 year old Saints player.