Saints 0-5 Brentford - Match Thread

[Edmonton Saint]

Nobody came out of yesterday’s performance with any credit.  If there was a game plan I didn’t see it .   I’d be quite happy to see the entire squad shipped out and replaced and then we can hopefully replace the deep rooted malaise that has infected us for so long.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

4 minutes ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

To start only THB came over on his own. Vaguely recall after him it was Bednerek.

And the Tall Paul dream is over. To get cult status, the skill bar is very low (eg. Shane Long), but after that performance, I can't see him reaching it.

Give him his due, he did stand there and get a gobful back, even if some idiots were still clapping him. 

[hypochondriac]

Can we just pretend this game didn't happen? 

[Whitey Grandad]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

Can we just pretend this game didn't happen? 

What game?

[Badger]

Thankfully the weather warnings were enough to deter us from travelling down. 
 

Shocking result and performance. Shameful on the part of so many involved in the club. Owners, players and all. (Not having a go at Juric who is probably as astounded as anyone).

Saw this on BBC :

 

 

This is RM’s legacy. Shame in someways he isn’t still in place to take the flak. 
 

Mentions of course to Rasmus, Kraft and co for their contribution to our free fall. 

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

1 hour ago, warsash saint said:

I have to say that is the worst home performance i have seen in my 50+ years of watching Saints!

Got to say, I'm also struggling to think of a worse one. Was listening to MLT in the Northam fanzone before the game and he said Brentford had their injuries; this was a real chance to rack up 3 points. That could have been a double digit loss. 

That midfield was woeful. They seemed to be transparent.

[washsaint]

This is the worst team I can ever remember.  Even under Branfoot there was fight and tenacity (despite terrible players and management) - this lot have no fight, skill or anything of a positive note.

Truly most of this squad can piss off - I'd rather youngsters like SAA, Bragg, Ballard and O'brien-Whitmarsh got an opportunity to learn over utter crap like Tall Paul, ARcher, Armstrong, Sulemana, Aribo, Bg Lesley

[Sheaf Saint]

Just wow. I've watched Saints dish up some utter shite over the years, but that was right up there with the very worst performances I've ever seen, and I turned it off at 3-0. I shudder to think how much worse it got after that.

I really don't know where we go from here, but I genuinely can't see us getting the 6 points we need to avoid equalling Derby's record.

This situation is entirely on SR. I was so hopeful when they took over, but they've been nothing short of a disaster for us so far. Their recruitment, of both players and managers, has been utterly appalling. Of the players that featured yesterday, there were maybe two or three who, when in form, would get into any other PL team. 

It's time for protests against the board to start. We need to get these useless, incompetent cunts out of the club before they sink us even lower.

Sad times.

[Lord Duckhunter]

Absolutely disgraceful. Only Ramsdale can be excused (and maybe TD being a youngster). The rest of them threw the towel in, unforgivable. We’re soft as shite, the buddy buddy Lego culture is killing us. The fact some nods are complaining AA was humiliated by presenting a shirt after the game sums it all up. The old bird predicted a 5-0 to the side with 2 away points, yet her and this Hugo mush are disrespectful. Fucking joke, I’d have made the whole squad present the shirt, fucking twats. 5- fucking 0 and poor old Adam is humiliated. I’m fucking humalited watching that shite.  
 

THB fucking woeful, if he plays for England, fuck me. He has the nerve to try and clap the fans and explain to the echo. Fuck off, do your job. 
 

I hope they were in today running round the training pitch in the rain, they would be if I was manager. Bunch of cunts…

Edited Sunday at 18:38 by Lord Duckhunter

[Football Special]

7 minutes ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

Got to say, I'm also struggling to think of a worse one. Was listening to MLT in the Northam fanzone before the game and he said Brentford had their injuries; this was a real chance to rack up 3 points. That could have been a double digit loss. 

That midfield was woeful. They seemed to be transparent.

I was near the front of Kingsland, one of the many Brentford attacks that just bypassed our midfielders, Big Les looked at Big Joe, Big Joe held his hands out as if to say that was your man to track Les, and Les responds with a shrug of the shoulders, so truly despicable excuses for professionals. 

I did predict a there'd be some short term term worsening of performances when Martin left, players are all over the place, no fitness,  no leaders, just drifting hoping they'll be put out of their misery. 

Dragan needs to publicly apologise to the fans, it's really damaging sitting through 0-5 home losses game after game , fans have turned up in numbers game after game and deserve better 

[Dirkdiggler]

39 minutes ago, macca155 said:

Last 4 home league games Saints have lost 16-1. A damming statistic.

 

 

That right there is a shocking stat! 
Shipping goals for fun at home is madness! Players and SR should apologise to the fans. 

 

[S-Clarke]

22 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Can we just pretend this game didn't happen? 

Can we just pretend the season didn't happen? I've never experienced such an uncompetitive season in my lifetime. We have never, not once, been in competition with anyone. 20th has been ours since day 1.

[benjii]

No one has mentioned the ridiculous VAR decision we got. Fucking joke decision 🤣

[HarvSFC]

I'm still annoyed at this. Yes, the players are shit, fair enough, but if you're shit, at least work hard. We don't. Slow, pointless, low tempo football when in possession. Half jogging at players with the ball when out of possession. Not one Southampton player broke out into a sprint yesterday, on the ball, or off it. Complete joke. How many times over the last year have we seen Bazunu, McCarthy, Lumley and Ramsdale in possession and immediately getting swarmed, either giving a goal away, or conceding possession by kicking it in a hurry. The Brentford goalkeeper had the ball countless times and Sulemana and Onuachu just stand still, waiting for him to do something, when he's happy to keep the ball for a period of time because they're 1-0 up and can then just ping it to whoever he wants. Makes you long for the days of Shane Long, who scored the fastest goal in Premier League history by closing down a defender. Sulemana and Onuachu should have been hooked as soon as they stopped moving when Brentford had the ball near them. No excuses for that. Also, still, our players are afraid to make tackles. Keep backing off and backing off until the attacker finds themselves in our box. Attack the ball. The man with the ball is the most dangerous player on the pitch. It's basics of football that we've got wrong all season. Be it passing backwards, playing around our own box, not threatening the opposition goal, jogging half arsed around and refusing to close down a player with the ball. This awful three centre-back formation too. Watching Fulham vs Ipswich earlier, Fulham 1-0 down at half time bring off a centre-back for Smith-Rowe. Us, 1-0 down yesterday, bring off a centre-back and play Charlie Taylor there. We're getting overrun in the middle.

Brentford played against Arsenal on Wednesday evening, we had extra days to prepare (probably took them off) and they completely outworked and outclassed us. They're also in poor form themselves, no away wins this season before yesterday and had one win in their last six, with four defeats. But up steps Southampton.

On the topic of individuals. Sell Sulemana to whoever this window. Auction Onuachu off to Turkey, bidding starts at £1m. No good saying teams haven't bid high enough when he's awful like we did in the summer. I'm unsure of how he showed skills against Liverpool as he hasn't been able to control a ball since and doesn't win anything despite his height. Get both of those wasters off the wage bill. SAA's better than Sulemana. Sell Aribo in the summer. Downes and Charles can be our midfield next season, no space for him putting in a half arsed act on the pitch. Get Bree back as a backup. I wouldn't want him starting regularly in a good Championship team.

Then if we do come back up sell Bednarek, Armstrong, Manning, etc. No room for sentiment. Hammond, Chaplow, Sharp weren't giving this kind of charity when we came up under Adkins.

It's time we started acting like a Premier League club. We've been one for enough years. Two years ago under these owners we signed a load of youth and asked them to become immediate Premier League regulars and then appointed Nathan Jones and Ruben Selles. One year ago we signed a crocked striker for £10m in the Championship who's played about 90 minutes in total. Didn't replace our set piece coach, and now concede from set pieces for fun and fail to beat the first man in attacking set pieces. Replaced our DoF by promoting from within and giving a new title, has worked out as predicted and we scraped promotion through the play-offs, never threatening the top three. This summer we gave new contracts to McCarthy, Armstrong and Martin, who are all not good enough. And, on top of this, this summer we signed Lallana, Taylor, Edwards, Sugawara, Brereton-Diaz, Archer, Fraser and Cornet. Eight players who can't get into our team, so they aren't getting in any other team in the Premier League. Even Ugochukwu and Wood have only recently got into the team and Wood was subbed at half time, rounding it up to 10. One successful signing in Mateus Fernandes. We're a laughing stock both on and off the pitch, and that includes the Armstrong video that came out yesterday. Suppose it's all a show for those who buy the hospitality tickets. They're the ones SR are most interested in.

If Juric has anything about him, he'll be tearing into the team this week, getting them doing fitness drills, demanding that they press the opposition and whoever doesn't want to run gets dropped out of the team and can find another club to play for. We saw us go down without a fight under Jones and Selles and its happening again with many of the same group of players, funnily enough.

[saintant]

1 hour ago, davefizzy14 said:

Really annoyed with that performance yesterday. Where was the fight. Its time the owners came out and stated what the intentions are.

It's a 10 year plan apparently 🙂

[benjii]

Just now, HarvSFC said:

I'm still annoyed at this. Yes, the players are shit, fair enough, but if you're shit, at least work hard. We don't. Slow, pointless, low tempo football when in possession. Half jogging at players with the ball when out of possession. Not one Southampton player broke out into a sprint yesterday, on the ball, or off it. Complete joke. How many times over the last year have we seen Bazunu, McCarthy, Lumley and Ramsdale in possession and immediately getting swarmed, either giving a goal away, or conceding possession by kicking it in a hurry. The Brentford goalkeeper had the ball countless times and Sulemana and Onuachu just stand still, waiting for him to do something, when he's happy to keep the ball for a period of time because they're 1-0 up and can then just ping it to whoever he wants. Makes you long for the days of Shane Long, who scored the fastest goal in Premier League history by closing down a defender. Sulemana and Onuachu should have been hooked as soon as they stopped moving when Brentford had the ball near them. No excuses for that. Also, still, our players are afraid to make tackles. Keep backing off and backing off until the attacker finds themselves in our box. Attack the ball. The man with the ball is the most dangerous player on the pitch. It's basics of football that we've got wrong all season. Be it passing backwards, playing around our own box, not threatening the opposition goal, jogging half arsed around and refusing to close down a player with the ball. This awful three centre-back formation too. Watching Fulham vs Ipswich earlier, Fulham 1-0 down at half time bring off a centre-back for Smith-Rowe. Us, 1-0 down yesterday, bring off a centre-back and play Charlie Taylor there. We're getting overrun in the middle.

Brentford played against Arsenal on Wednesday evening, we had extra days to prepare (probably took them off) and they completely outworked and outclassed us. They're also in poor form themselves, no away wins this season before yesterday and had one win in their last six, with four defeats. But up steps Southampton.

On the topic of individuals. Sell Sulemana to whoever this window. Auction Onuachu off to Turkey, bidding starts at £1m. No good saying teams haven't bid high enough when he's awful like we did in the summer. I'm unsure of how he showed skills against Liverpool as he hasn't been able to control a ball since and doesn't win anything despite his height. Get both of those wasters off the wage bill. SAA's better than Sulemana. Sell Aribo in the summer. Downes and Charles can be our midfield next season, no space for him putting in a half arsed act on the pitch. Get Bree back as a backup. I wouldn't want him starting regularly in a good Championship team.

Then if we do come back up sell Bednarek, Armstrong, Manning, etc. No room for sentiment. Hammond, Chaplow, Sharp weren't giving this kind of charity when we came up under Adkins.

It's time we started acting like a Premier League club. We've been one for enough years. Two years ago under these owners we signed a load of youth and asked them to become immediate Premier League regulars and then appointed Nathan Jones and Ruben Selles. One year ago we signed a crocked striker for £10m in the Championship who's played about 90 minutes in total. Didn't replace our set piece coach, and now concede from set pieces for fun and fail to beat the first man in attacking set pieces. Replaced our DoF by promoting from within and giving a new title, has worked out as predicted and we scraped promotion through the play-offs, never threatening the top three. This summer we gave new contracts to McCarthy, Armstrong and Martin, who are all not good enough. And, on top of this, this summer we signed Lallana, Taylor, Edwards, Sugawara, Brereton-Diaz, Archer, Fraser and Cornet. Eight players who can't get into our team, so they aren't getting in any other team in the Premier League. Even Ugochukwu and Wood have only recently got into the team and Wood was subbed at half time, rounding it up to 10. One successful signing in Mateus Fernandes. We're a laughing stock both on and off the pitch, and that includes the Armstrong video that came out yesterday. Suppose it's all a show for those who buy the hospitality tickets. They're the ones SR are most interested in.

If Juric has anything about him, he'll be tearing into the team this week, getting them doing fitness drills, demanding that they press the opposition and whoever doesn't want to run gets dropped out of the team and can find another club to play for. We saw us go down without a fight under Jones and Selles and its happening again with many of the same group of players, funnily enough.

I agree, but not with the causes you've outlined. The team was sat too deep. The backline and midfield were nowhere near Sulemana and Onuachu, so they had no one to press with.

I'm guessing this was deliberate, seeing as we had central midfield available but it clearly wasn't working.

Our failure to strengthen defensive midfield this season is a disgrace and really impacts the whole team. 

[davefizzy14]

6 minutes ago, saintant said:

It's a 10 year plan apparently 🙂

The board are not communicating with us, not hearing a single thing 🤷‍♂️

[saintant]

Just now, davefizzy14 said:

The board are not communicating with us, not hearing a single thing 🤷‍♂️

Well they've given themselves 10 years so they don't need to rush out a statement now.

[saintant]

31 minutes ago, Badger said:

Thankfully the weather warnings were enough to deter us from travelling down. 
 

Shocking result and performance. Shameful on the part of so many involved in the club. Owners, players and all. (Not having a go at Juric who is probably as astounded as anyone).

Saw this on BBC :

 

 

This is RM’s legacy. Shame in someways he isn’t still in place to take the flak. 
 

Mentions of course to Rasmus, Kraft and co for their contribution to our free fall. 

Spot on, this is down to RM and his coaches who have left us with a bunch of unfit players who are conditioned to play walking football, not break at pace, not play between the lines, not mark, not tackle or press and not win football matches. This will take some turning round and won't be done during the season when games come thick and fast and probably not while the clowns at SR are running the show and making the decisions. It's a perfect storm I'm afraid so prepare to batten down the hatches because the next few months are going to be ugly.

[revolution saint]

Any truth to the rumour that Dragan started the "We want our money back" chant?

[Pamplemousse]

The players completely gave up. Absolutely unacceptable. We have a team full of losers, we should have been more ruthless in the summer.

[Nieldy]

Image what it will be like when the new manager bounce is over😅

[Pamplemousse]

57 minutes ago, Edmonton Saint said:

Nobody came out of yesterday’s performance with any credit.  If there was a game plan I didn’t see it .   I’d be quite happy to see the entire squad shipped out and replaced and then we can hopefully replace the deep rooted malaise that has infected us for so long.

Dibling at least tried and kept going, he was the only one outfield who didn't give up. The others in the team need to learn from his mentality.

I don't care if we win or lose, if we're beaten by a better team then fine, I can accept that, none of us expect us to be up there at the top, but at the very least compete and don't give up.

Edited Sunday at 19:08 by Pamplemousse

[SaintsBarry74]

2 hours ago, warsash saint said:

I have to say that is the worst home performance i have seen in my 50+ years of watching Saints!

Worse than the 0-9s? Calm down.

[washsaint]

9 minutes ago, SaintsBarry74 said:

Worse than the 0-9s? Calm down.

Yes, worse than the 9-0s.  In those games were down to 10.  There was no excuse for yesterdays capitulation  and 9-0 would not have flattered Brentford

[Farmer Saint]

Various issues at play here.

1. The players absolutely loved RM. Juric is not popular, already.

2. Defence is not good enough to play 2 CBs. Midfield is not good enough to play 2 CM's. Means we really need to play with no striker to have a chance, but we've already tried that and it didn't work.

3. The advantage of RMs system was that it tended to keep the ball away from the other team so they couldn't attack us as much. Since we started to look to move the ball quicker and surrender possession we have really been starting to concede goals.

4. I don't think our fans fully appreciate how poor these players are versus the rest of the league - they're bang average Championship players.

5. No decent UK based managers wanted the job because they realised this and we're on a hiding to nothing. As I told you all in October, and has recently been backed up in the press, Moyes was not interested as he has enough of a career and enough money to not want to bother with a "difficult" job.

Edited Sunday at 19:24 by Farmer Saint

[Football Special]

18 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

The players completely gave up. Absolutely unacceptable. We have a team full of losers, we should have been more ruthless in the summer.

I agree, do you think now Martin has gone and they have no respect for the new boss? 

Something clearly not right with the attitude (on top of the ability and fitness) 

[FredVaFC59100]

40 minutes ago, saintant said:

It's a 10 year plan apparently 🙂

What ?! are you freaking kidding me ? Where did you read/ear that ?

[Pamplemousse]

Just now, Football Special said:

I agree, do you think now Martin has gone and they have no respect for the new boss? 

Something clearly not right with the attitude (on top of the ability and fitness) 

If they do have no respect for him, then that shows their total unprofessionalism.

We need to gut the squad in the summer, even if it means taking a massive financial loss. There are some who will be alright next season and we should keep like Smallbone, Armstrong etc. but realistically they aren't a long term option if we want to be a Premier League team again.

[Football Special]

On 30/12/2024 at 18:50, Football Special said:

I'd never encourage betting, but if you have a few spare pounds I'd recommend putting them on a Brentford win, odds seem generous at the moment (we're the only two teams still without an away win)

This has to be the easiest money ever made, put more on Brentford when I saw the line ups pre match (Brentford still 29/20 for the win), would have loved to have lost the money but if bookies want to give it away rude not to take it 

[Lord Duckhunter]

Just now, Football Special said:

This has to be the easiest money ever made, put more on Brentford when I saw the line ups pre match (Brentford still 29/20 for the win), would have loved to have lost the money but if bookies want to give it away rude not to take it 

That’s the spirit. 
 

 

[Badger]

32 minutes ago, saintant said:

Spot on, this is down to RM and his coaches who have left us 

Yes, but we were brave and toe to toe with them on walking out for the match, and possibly for the first three minutes. I’m sure those in the stadium could feel how much love the players have for Lego as the match progressed. 

[SaintsBarry74]

Is it me or do we have a bad record of shipping an awful lot of goals? Even before RM.

[Badger]

50 minutes ago, saintant said:

It's a 10 year plan apparently 🙂

Ten years. We’re in good hands.
 

Rasmus, Kraft and Dyson bloke already have a strategy in place negotiating the best deal for our long term future, before deciding whether to ground share with Eastleigh, Totton or Sholung. 

[derry]

I think this lot need an old fashioned boot camp. Run them ragged and frighten them head on. Get the fitness up, make it painfully literally, obvious that the worse they play the harder they work. The Message will soon get home. Clear out the trouble makers. 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

11 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Various issues at play here.

1. The players absolutely loved RM. Juric is not popular, already.

2. Defence is not good enough to play 2 CBs. Midfield is not good enough to play 2 CM's. Means we really need to play with no striker to have a chance, but we've already tried that and it didn't work.

3. The advantage of RMs system was that it tended to keep the ball away from the other team so they couldn't attack us as much. Since we started to look to move the ball quicker and surrender possession we have really been starting to concede goals.

4. I don't think our fans fully appreciate how poor these players are versus the rest of the league - they're bang average Championship players.

5. No decent UK based managers wanted the job because they realised this and we're on a hiding to nothing. As I told you all in October, and has recently been backed up in the press, Moyes was not interested as he has enough of a career and enough money to not want to bother with a "difficult" job.

Point 1 is everything that is wrong with this football club. RM wanted to be everyone's best friend, he created a culture of easiness. The manager shouldn't be popular, he's not there to be your best fucking mate, he's there to try and achieve the best results for the football club. I couldn't care less if they think Juric is an absolute cunt, they need to go out and do their jobs. 

[Turkish]

23 minutes ago, SaintsBarry74 said:

Worse than the 0-9s? Calm down.

Unreal isn't it. What an embarrassing club we are when we're discussing if getting away with only losing 5-0 at home against the worst away team in the division is worse than 2 9-0 losses we've had in the last few years. What a laughing stock we are.

[Badger]

2 minutes ago, SaintsBarry74 said:

Is it me or do we have a bad record of shipping an awful lot of goals? Even before RM.

Nothing new, if you were around in the 70’s we were often on the receiving end. But maybe one ‘freak’ result a season, not the current frequency. What is it, three out of our last four home games we’ve conceded five ? 

[jasonbenali]

I thought the Spurs game was bad, but this somehow felt even worse and an utter humiliation. The players simply gave up at the end. We had no shape, no ideas and no fight at all. I thought we had turned a corner of sorts with West Ham, but obviously not. Yes, the midfield was missing Fernandes and Downes, but along with the lack of organisation there was an unforgivable lack of effort which started from the first goal with not one by two powderpuff tackles. The spaces between the players were ridiculous - what do they work on all week?

The one thing I will credit the players with though is that we've found a new way of giving away ridiculous goals without even passing it around our six yard box to the opposition.

Just wow.

[saintant]

15 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Various issues at play here.

1. The players absolutely loved RM. Juric is not popular, already.

2. Defence is not good enough to play 2 CBs. Midfield is not good enough to play 2 CM's. Means we really need to play with no striker to have a chance, but we've already tried that and it didn't work.

3. The advantage of RMs system was that it tended to keep the ball away from the other team so they couldn't attack us as much. Since we started to look to move the ball quicker and surrender possession we have really been starting to concede goals.

4. I don't think our fans fully appreciate how poor these players are versus the rest of the league - they're bang average Championship players.

5. No decent UK based managers wanted the job because they realised this and we're on a hiding to nothing. As I told you all in October, and has recently been backed up in the press, Moyes was not interested as he has enough of a career and enough money to not want to bother with a "difficult" job.

Are you being serious 🙂 RM had us conceding goals for fun, it's not something we've just started doing.

[Farmer Saint]

Just now, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Point 1 is everything that is wrong with this football club. RM wanted to be everyone's best friend, he created a culture of easiness. The manager shouldn't be popular, he's not there to be your best fucking mate, he's there to try and achieve the best results for the football club. I couldn't care less if they think Juric is an absolute cunt, they need to go out and do their jobs. 

This isn't the 80's mate, players don't react to hairdryers. They want structure, tactics and nurturing. It's not a case of just pumping it forward and kicking a boot at the players if they make a mistake.

[Badger]

10 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

That’s the spirit. 
 

 

Put a few white stripes on him. Our new mascot.

Or CB 

[Farmer Saint]

1 minute ago, saintant said:

Are you being serious 🙂 RM had us conceding goals for fun, it's not something we've just started doing.

Instead of 2's or 3's it feels like it's more 5's now. Either way I think we looked worse defensively on Saturday than any other game this season. And it was against the worst away team in the League...

[saintant]

Just now, Farmer Saint said:

Instead of 2's or 3's it feels like it's more 5's now. Either way I think we looked worse defensively on Saturday than any other game this season. And it was against the worst away team in the League...

This was the first time we've shipped 5 goals under Juric - his first two games it was 1 and 2. Let's not blame him for hammerings under the previous clown.

[Farmer Saint]

1 minute ago, saintant said:

This was the first time we've shipped 5 goals under Juric - his first two games it was 1 and 2. Let's not blame him for hammerings under the previous clown.

I didn't? My point was it has happened more since we moved away from a possession based style.

Edited Sunday at 19:49 by Farmer Saint

[S-Clarke]

2 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Instead of 2's or 3's it feels like it's more 5's now. Either way I think we looked worse defensively on Saturday than any other game this season. And it was against the worst away team in the League...

We lost 5-0 to Spurs under Martin. 5-1 to Chelsea, 3-0 to Bournemouth, 3-0 to Man Utd. Let's not try and make out Martins reign was full of roses, it wasn't, it was an absolute complete and utter shit show which has lead us to where we are right now.

[Football Special]

1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Absolutely disgraceful. Only Ramsdale can be excused (and maybe TD being a youngster). The rest of them threw the towel in, unforgivable. We’re soft as shite, the buddy buddy Lego culture is killing us. The fact some nods are complaining AA was humiliated by presenting a shirt after the game sums it all up. The old bird predicted a 5-0 to the side with 2 away points, yet her and this Hugo mush are disrespectful. Fucking joke, I’d have made the whole squad present the shirt, fucking twats. 5- fucking 0 and poor old Adam is humiliated. I’m fucking humalited watching that shite.  
 

THB fucking woeful, if he plays for England, fuck me. He has the nerve to try and clap the fans and explain to the echo. Fuck off, do your job. 
 

I hope they were in today running round the training pitch in the rain, they would be if I was manager. Bunch of cunts…

I do feel like the club are trolling us sometimes, that shirt presentation for guess the score adds to us being laughed at, ffs just go over and discreetly give her the shirt 

[Farmer Saint]

2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

We lost 5-0 to Spurs under Martin. 5-1 to Chelsea, 3-0 to Bournemouth, 3-0 to Man Utd. Let's not try and make out Martins reign was full of roses, it wasn't, it was an absolute complete and utter shit show which has lead us to where we are right now.

Again, never said it was - point was for the Chelsea and Spurs game was that we'd moved away from keeping possession for the sake of it.

Edited Sunday at 19:52 by Farmer Saint

[Lee On Solent Saint]

7 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

This isn't the 80's mate, players don't react to hairdryers. They want structure, tactics and nurturing. It's not a case of just pumping it forward and kicking a boot at the players if they make a mistake.

Didn't say anything about hairdryer treatment, you don't have to shout at people to gain their respect. You don't think RM saying how much he loved the players was a problem? Giving them two days off a week is acceptable? We are soft as shit both on and off the pitch.

[saintwbu]

This was the worst defeat of the season imo, and people have seen why some were completely bombed from the squad under RM. Les absolutely dire in particular. Can’t understand why a manager who wants 5 at the back is playing with a defensive minded RWB and a right footed LWB, really concerning.