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trousers

trousers

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On 10/03/2025 at 14:05, Fabrice29 said:

My warnings that things might look different if we sack Martin but we’ll still lose a lot of games were right though. 

Name someone who thought we wouldn't still lose a lot of games after getting rid of Martin?

#"lookatme"medalstillonhold

There was general consensus that it was always going to take a long time to get over the shockingly woeful first half of the season under Martin. It just so happens that Juric turns out to be equally clueless in the PL.

I always advocated we should've appointed a caretaker manager from within for the very reason that we were unlikely to get someone new in who could turn things around this season. 

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ally_uk

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Well, you have to hand it to Sports Republic—they’ve managed to appoint a coach as bad as, if not worse than, Martin and Jones combined...

You really can’t make this up, can you? I’d seen enough of him five games ago. Baffling squad selections, a stubborn refusal to start strikers, in must win games… what an absolute twonk. 🤡

International break now—time to send him packing. Stick Rusk and Lallana in for the rest of the season, at least build some cohesion, and make sure we don’t touch that Derby record.

 

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sambosa75

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This cunt has got to go.  Wolves at home and he’s playing 5 at the back with no recognised striker up top.  Clueless.  Kudos to SR, another gem of a hire 👌🏻

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woodsaint1

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We can all accept that the players are not good enough. The likes of ABK, Stephens, Manning, Sugawara, Downes, Smallbone, Sulemana, Onuachu and Archer are not PL level. Never mind the squad filler outside that. We're also placing so much emphasis on young, inexperienced players like Dibling, Fernandes and Les. Thats not Juric's fault.

But I thought this manager would make us more solid and hard to beat. Its been the opposite - we're so easy to play against, we look so disorganised, he's tried employing man-marking for god sake. Its been a disaster and if hes still here by Monday then you wonder if SR are just taking the piss out of the fans

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S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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How do they keep picking terrible managers? Every club gets a manager bounce, no matter how bad they are, but we keep appointing people who can't even give us that. I appreciate that he's walked into a shit show and I do feel sorry for him in some ways, but some of this damage is self inflicted and isn't needed.

- 3 CB's, we cannot play it

- No strikers when we don't score goals

- CM's at CB, and LB's in midfield.

He doesn't need to make it more complicated than it already is, this situation called for simplicity with the incredibly limited players we have, not more nonsense.

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Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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3 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

The fact Fernandes wasn’t injured and the manager wanted more from him is the end for me. Wanted more from him? What about the rest of them ffs?

He is the one player who you could not accuse of not trying every week.

Juric is full of shit.  

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Harry_SFC

Harry_SFC

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2 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

He is the one player who you could not accuse of not trying every week.

Juric is full of shit.  

Yeah the comments on Fernandes are ridiculous. Absolutely bonkers. 

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davefizzy14

davefizzy14

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1 minute ago, Harry_SFC said:

Yeah the comments on Fernandes are ridiculous. Absolutely bonkers. 

Yeah utterly ridiculous. Fernandes is one of our best players

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West end Saints

West end Saints

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I get the different views on Martin but I liked him, and felt he was naive this season, played some decent football but wasn't good enough for this level. At the spurs game it was clear he had to go.

Juric is worse.

I'm sure we would still be bottom but I'm convinced Martin would have beaten the Derby points target.

Juric won't.

The players are not good enough. I would need convincing that any of our team would be a starter at any other team. Fernandes maybe, KWP possibly another bottom 6 side, Ramsdale. The others not close.

There has been a lack of ability, effort and organisation.

Juric has sucked any hope or enthusiasm out of the club.

Pointless keeping him, no one would do worse. Any other coach at the club, Lallana, Stephens, I don't care but what is the point of Juric?

If there was any doubt his treatment of Fernandes today was disgraceful. The only player who has looked interested, or had the ability or made an effort this season. 

Probably the only player every fan wants to stay.

The only midfielder who has looked close to prem level this season.

Taking him off at half time.

Then after the game saying you didn't like how he played when the rest were shit.

Currently put him level alongside Jones as someone I want to forget was ever anything to do with this club.

 

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aintforever

aintforever

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10 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

He ain't wrong

 

Are fans are a bunch of pussies, they should have been giving those wanker players dogs abuse for playing like that yet most just sat there in silence.

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trousers

trousers

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1 minute ago, aintforever said:

Are fans are a bunch of pussies, they should have been giving those wanker players dogs abuse for playing like that yet most just sat there in silence.

Did those around you not follow your lead when you started the chants...? ;)

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Galway saint

Galway saint

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1 hour ago, woodsaint1 said:

We can all accept that the players are not good enough. The likes of ABK, Stephens, Manning, Sugawara, Downes, Smallbone, Sulemana, Onuachu and Archer are not PL level. Never mind the squad filler outside that. We're also placing so much emphasis on young, inexperienced players like Dibling, Fernandes and Les. Thats not Juric's fault.

But I thought this manager would make us more solid and hard to beat. Its been the opposite - we're so easy to play against, we look so disorganised, he's tried employing man-marking for god sake. Its been a disaster and if hes still here by Monday then you wonder if SR are just taking the piss out of the fans

I don't disagree but we have won what 9 games in 80 or so in the PL across two seasons. This goes way deeper than Juric. He's just the latest poor sod to be the manager. The entire club is a mess and does anyone really think the next decisions made by SR will be any better ? 

I still can't believe the club sat down at the start of this season and thought a forward line of Archer, BBD, AA and Tall Paul was good enough to keep us up. I don't underhand Juric not playing a striker today but look what he had to choose from ?

The owners have no feel for how to a run a successful PL football club and either need to appoint someone who does or sell the club

All that said we have now had two seasons in a row where all the promoted clubs have gone straight back down so it's becoming very difficult even if you have competent owners.

Obviously we have stank the place out but this PL season has been the most dull I can remember 

 

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saintwbu

saintwbu

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Are people still telling themselves it’s better than it was before? 😆 first shot on target at 60 minutes, playing against another poor side. Awful football, awful selections, statistically worse than Jones, Selles and Russell Martin - takes some doing that. 

Football Special

Football Special

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33 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

He ain't wrong

 

Of course, Italian ultras would pay a visit to the training ground and make the players apologise , our players get a few boos and a ripple of applause at full time. 

Juric seems nice enough bloke but has been appalling appointment hasn't he, worst manager of all time managing the worst team in top flight history,  they should all be ashamed to show their faces 

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aintforever

aintforever

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23 minutes ago, trousers said:

Did those around you not follow your lead when you started the chants...? ;)

They did actually, would have preferred it if more had joined up in though.

Oisin

Oisin

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55 minutes ago, West end Saints said:

I get the different views on Martin but I liked him, and felt he was naive this season, played some decent football but wasn't good enough for this level. At the spurs game it was clear he had to go.

Juric is worse.

I'm sure we would still be bottom but I'm convinced Martin would have beaten the Derby points target.

Juric won't.

The players are not good enough. I would need convincing that any of our team would be a starter at any other team. Fernandes maybe, KWP possibly another bottom 6 side, Ramsdale. The others not close.

There has been a lack of ability, effort and organisation.

Juric has sucked any hope or enthusiasm out of the club.

Pointless keeping him, no one would do worse. Any other coach at the club, Lallana, Stephens, I don't care but what is the point of Juric?

If there was any doubt his treatment of Fernandes today was disgraceful. The only player who has looked interested, or had the ability or made an effort this season. 

Probably the only player every fan wants to stay.

The only midfielder who has looked close to prem level this season.

Taking him off at half time.

Then after the game saying you didn't like how he played when the rest were shit.

Currently put him level alongside Jones as someone I want to forget was ever anything to do with this club.

 

100% this

Fabrice29

Fabrice29

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2 hours ago, trousers said:

Name someone who thought we wouldn't still lose a lot of games after getting rid of Martin?

#"lookatme"medalstillonhold

There was general consensus that it was always going to take a long time to get over the shockingly woeful first half of the season under Martin. It just so happens that Juric turns out to be equally clueless in the PL.

I always advocated we should've appointed a caretaker manager from within for the very reason that we were unlikely to get someone new in who could turn things around this season. 

There was people on here talking about the new manager being needed to make us more competitive and less of a laughing stock. Actively being pleased that Juric was a breath of fresh air and a taskmaster. Which all sounds wonderful until you lose games on a consistent basis and now he's clueless and guess what we're still a laughing stock and not any more competitive really. We might be slightly different but we're not really any better.

I'm not a massive fan of this guy and I'm not going to launch a huge defence of the bloke but it's really easy to just call managers clueless, woeful, out of their depth etc and demand we appoint a 3rd one and 6th in two PL seasons but unless anyone can convince me anything changes I don't really see the point....?

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The Kraken

The Kraken

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4 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

There was people on here talking about the new manager being needed to make us more competitive and less of a laughing stock. Actively being pleased that Juric was a breath of fresh air and a taskmaster. Which all sounds wonderful until you lose games on a consistent basis and now he's clueless and guess what we're still a laughing stock and not any more competitive really. We might be slightly different but we're not really any better.

I'm not a massive fan of this guy and I'm not going to launch a huge defence of the bloke but it's really easy to just call managers clueless, woeful, out of their depth etc and demand we appoint a 3rd one and 6th in two PL seasons but unless anyone can convince me anything changes I don't really see the point....?

Nobody is going to convince you of anything, you’re about the most entrenched in their own opinion of about anyone I’ve ever seen on this forum.

Galway saint

Galway saint

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2 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

There was people on here talking about the new manager being needed to make us more competitive and less of a laughing stock. Actively being pleased that Juric was a breath of fresh air and a taskmaster. Which all sounds wonderful until you lose games on a consistent basis and now he's clueless and guess what we're still a laughing stock and not any more competitive really. We might be slightly different but we're not really any better.

I'm not a massive fan of this guy and I'm not going to launch a huge defence of the bloke but it's really easy to just call managers clueless, woeful, out of their depth etc and demand we appoint a 3rd one and 6th in two PL seasons but unless anyone can convince me anything changes I don't really see the point....?

agreed - unless our recruitment improves we will continue to struggle. The sides we have put out this season have been way below PL standard, hence we have only 9 points. Confidence is shot as well so it's a pretty toxic mix.

Next season we have back the likes of Edozie, Bazanu and Charles. The latter deserves a chance, but the first two are symptomatic of the poor recruitment that has got us into this position and should be sold ( if anyone is interested)

 

 

 

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SaintLondon

SaintLondon

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The ultimate Saints move: sack Juric, hand it to Rusk till season’s end, he scrapes a draw and a win, and suddenly - Rohl’s pre-contract is binned, and Rusk gets the job full-time.

Fabrice29

Fabrice29

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4 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Nobody is going to convince you of anything, you’re about the most entrenched in their own opinion of about anyone I’ve ever seen on this forum.

You're probably right to be fair. 3 managers over 1 PL season is pretty dumb and I probably wont ever not think that.

Football Special

Football Special

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The match day programme has stickers to collect in each edition, today's is an absolute cracker - will definitely be a collectors item one day , I'm prepared to sell if anyone wants to make me an offer 

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saintstowin

saintstowin

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Well we had 3 the last time we went down. I think we're near enough the end that anyone could do as well as Juric. If we have coaches at the club to see us across the miserable finish line just do it. 

Juric might not have known quite how bad we were. But he knew the challenge and sadly has not been up to it. 

And like others feel, it's his making it even harder with odd decisions and not learning from mistakes that means it's reached a point of time to go.

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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5 minutes ago, Football Special said:

The match day programme has stickers to collect in each edition, today's is an absolute cracker - will definitely be a collectors item one day , I'm prepared to sell if anyone wants to make me an offer 

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Oh that's a neat idea. Combining football stickers with the Greats of Comedy!

Above we have The 3 Stooges! 

Next week a focus on our back 5 of Groucho, Chico, Harpo, Zeppo and a return of Gummo! 

Oh, how we'll laugh as they tell us that none of them were ever defenders before being brought into the Juric Joke Jamboree.

Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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8 minutes ago, saintstowin said:

Well we had 3 the last time we went down. I think we're near enough the end that anyone could do as well as Juric. If we have coaches at the club to see us across the miserable finish line just do it. 

Juric might not have known quite how bad we were. But he knew the challenge and sadly has not been up to it. 

And like others feel, it's his making it even harder with odd decisions and not learning from mistakes that means it's reached a point of time to go.

Today was the end for me. The starting line up was bizarre. No attackers, two right backs, a back five. Or was it six? Substituting Fernandes.

And I was bloody cold. I can’t really find a way to blame Juric for that but I’m still looking.

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CSA96

CSA96

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I despised Jones more because he was just such a reprehensible, responsibility-shirking arsehole of a bloke. But Juric is right up there with the worst we've had. The only praise I've got for him is that he is a straight shooter in interviews - there is no other redeeming quality to the guy

RedArmy

RedArmy

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4 hours ago, aintforever said:

He’s just fucking clueless, way worse than under Martin.

 

Yep, astonishing indictment of those in charge that they somehow managed to make things even worse. 
 

You almost have to congratulate it it’s so impressive. 

Pamplemousse

Pamplemousse

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I thought he'd be a good appointment but he's gone completely nuts.

The tactics are bad enough but starting without a striker is just absolutely braindead. Look at how Arsenal's season has capitulated because all their strikers are injured.

Wolves had two chances and guess what, their centre forward finished them both.

And then post-match he criticises our best player, the one player above everyone who has put a shift in for every game.

Fuck off Juric, you're useless.

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the boy from saints

the boy from saints

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3 hours ago, aintforever said:

Are fans are a bunch of pussies, they should have been giving those wanker players dogs abuse for playing like that yet most just sat there in silence.

Were you there?

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the boy from saints

the boy from saints

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1 minute ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Those of us who were there know where the bulk of the blame lies.

...the supporters have been nothing but magnificent this season, Any positive play and they/we are fully behind the team. Despite the woeful predicament we find ourselves in! 

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HKsaint

HKsaint

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3 hours ago, Ed Rooney said:

Awful awful manager, one of the worst if not the worst we have had 

I think this is a punishment for we shouting RM out. The same applies to RM, Nathan Jones and Ralph.

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