Dman Posted January 28 Posted January 28 The owner is hardly going to come out and say "we didn't want to pay the money for X in January, Juric is a short term fix and wont be here in the summer". I'd be amazed if hes still here in the championship, however, I wouldn't mind him staying - given the right players I think he could be a really good, no thrills, manager for us. 3
Turkish Posted January 28 Posted January 28 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: It wasn't a point. You asked a question. A question isn't a point. I answered the question. So how is my answer not a valid answer to that question? Do you not know the difference between points/statements and questions? Plus even if there was something, which I can't see how there would be. This thread is 15 pages long. All I did is answer a question that was asked. Do you really expect everyone to read every post in a long thread to see if there was something else that changed the question so it can't be taken on face value? As i stated above which you are ignoring this was a further post on a wider discussion. You ignored the initial post, because you ignored it you have failed to grasp the point being made. You have now continued to ignore it 4 additional times and continue to fail. You have clearly waded into a discussion without comprehending the wider point. Your myopic view of this is your downfall. I better leave it here as people might think you are being bullied again, or you might flounce off like you did before. So I will say for the final time you are wrong. Have a great day. 2
Matthew Le God Posted January 28 Posted January 28 1 minute ago, Turkish said: As i stated above which you are ignoring this was a further post on a wider discussion. You ignored the initial post, because you ignored it you have failed to grasp the point being made. You have now continued to ignore it 4 additional times and continue to fail. You have clearly waded into a discussion without comprehending the wider point. Your myopic view of this is your downfall. I better leave it here as people might think you are being bullied again, or you might flounce off like you did before. So I will say for the final time you are wrong. Have a great day. Nothing you say there counters this... It wasn't a point. You asked a question. A question isn't a point. I answered the question that you asked. So how is my answer not a valid answer to that question? Do you not know the difference between points/statements and questions? You appear not to! Plus even if there was something further back in the thread, which I can't see how there would be. This thread is 15 pages long. All I did is answer a question that was asked. Do you really expect everyone to read every post in a long thread to see if there was something else that changed the question so it can't be taken on face value? 1
Matthew Le God Posted January 28 Posted January 28 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Turkish said: I better leave it here as people might think you are being bullied again, or you might flounce off like you did before. So I will say for the final time you are wrong. Have a great day. Grow up Edited January 28 by Matthew Le God 2
Turkish Posted January 28 Posted January 28 13 minutes ago, Dman said: The owner is hardly going to come out and say "we didn't want to pay the money for X in January, Juric is a short term fix and wont be here in the summer". I'd be amazed if hes still here in the championship, however, I wouldn't mind him staying - given the right players I think he could be a really good, no thrills, manager for us. agreed, i like him and think he could be decent. The key to being a premier league club is to do all you can to stay up the first season not be sticking to some philosophy bollocks or keep playing your mates even though they're clearly not good enough. Elite sport is brutal there is not shame to not being a premier league level player, they are still better than 99.9% of the country (yes MLG i know that is not the exact %) Juric seems to get this. 6
Saint_clark Posted January 28 Posted January 28 52 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: We only signed 7 players in the summer of the 2012/13 season and then only one player in Janaury (Forren who never played a game). My point is that the gap between the leagues is a lot bigger now than 13 years ago and we may need more significant squad changes than just 7 players like we had in 2012/13. The summer of 2024 was the time to move on Armstrong, Aribo, Bree, Smallbone, Stephens, Manning etc. They aren't good enough for the Premier League and we needed a complete squad overall. Instead, Russell Martin openly admitted he was loyal to the promotion squad. A larger turnover of players may have caused gelling issues, but it is player quality that has let us down this season so I think it should have been a risk worth taking. You're still arguing against a point that I never made. 3
Lord Duckhunter Posted January 28 Posted January 28 13 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Also the games has had to pick up points: Fulham, Fuck me, you haven’t got a clue. I can’t believe he didn’t win a game 2 days before he had a work permit 😂😂 1
Farmer Saint Posted January 28 Posted January 28 Win percentages for our last 5 managers then...have to bear in mind we had a much better squad in 2022/2023. Juric 0% win percentage 0 PPG 0.83 goals pg 2.83 goals against pg Martin 6% win percentage 0.31 PPG 0.69 goals pg 2.25 goals against pg Selles 12% win percentage 0.63 PPG 1.13 goals pg 2.06 goals against pg Jones 12% win percentage 0.38 PPG 0.75 goals pg 2.00 goals against pg Hassenhuttl 21% win percentage 0.86 PPG 0.86 goals pg 1.71 goals against pg
lambtiss Posted January 28 Posted January 28 8 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Nothing you say there counters this... It wasn't a point. You asked a question. A question isn't a point. I answered the question that you asked. So how is my answer not a valid answer to that question? Do you not know the difference between points/statements and questions? You appear not to! Plus even if there was something further back in the thread, which I can't see how there would be. This thread is 15 pages long. All I did is answer a question that was asked. Do you really expect everyone to read every post in a long thread to see if there was something else that changed the question so it can't be taken on face value? Staggeringly unaware. You pick post after post apart for the most trivial of mistakes in syntax or grammar but then take grievous offence when someone points out a mistake of your own. 9
ErwinK1961 Posted January 28 Posted January 28 6 minutes ago, lambtiss said: Staggeringly unaware. You pick post after post apart for the most trivial of mistakes in syntax or grammar but then take grievous offence when someone points out a mistake of your own. Nutshell. 5
Matthew Le God Posted January 28 Posted January 28 14 minutes ago, lambtiss said: Staggeringly unaware. You pick post after post apart for the most trivial of mistakes in syntax or grammar but then take grievous offence when someone points out a mistake of your own. There was no mistake for the reasons explained. 1 3
Crab Lungs Posted January 28 Posted January 28 9 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Grow up Are you a teacher? 2
lambtiss Posted January 28 Posted January 28 2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: There was no mistake for the reasons explained. It is a strength not a weakness to admit a mistake you know 1 1
Ted Bates Statue Posted January 28 Posted January 28 7 hours ago, Farmer Saint said: Hassenhuttl 21% win percentage 0.86 PPG 0.86 goals pg 1.71 goals against pg Worth pointing out that this takes the 22/23 season results in isolation... his overall PL win percentage is comfortably over 30%. Still, even at his worst ebb, it shows how further ahead he was compared to the three that followed. But hey, the players were sick of him and did you know he cried in public once. 2
CB Fry Posted January 28 Posted January 28 7 hours ago, Farmer Saint said: Win percentages for our last 5 managers then...have to bear in mind we had a much better squad in 2022/2023. Juric 0% win percentage 0 PPG 0.83 goals pg 2.83 goals against pg Martin 6% win percentage 0.31 PPG 0.69 goals pg 2.25 goals against pg Selles 12% win percentage 0.63 PPG 1.13 goals pg 2.06 goals against pg Jones 12% win percentage 0.38 PPG 0.75 goals pg 2.00 goals against pg Hassenhuttl 21% win percentage 0.86 PPG 0.86 goals pg 1.71 goals against pg Hasenhuttl 34% but yeah just make shit up. 2
Matthew Le God Posted January 29 Posted January 29 7 hours ago, lambtiss said: It is a strength not a weakness to admit a mistake you know It is weakness to admit to a mistake you have not made 1 2
Farmer Saint Posted January 29 Posted January 29 (edited) 9 hours ago, CB Fry said: Hasenhuttl 34% but yeah just make shit up. In our relegation season? Try again. We all know Maths isn't your strong suit after your consistent inability to understand PSR. Edited January 29 by Farmer Saint 1
Farmer Saint Posted January 29 Posted January 29 9 hours ago, Ted Bates Statue said: Worth pointing out that this takes the 22/23 season results in isolation... his overall PL win percentage is comfortably over 30%. Still, even at his worst ebb, it shows how further ahead he was compared to the three that followed. But hey, the players were sick of him and did you know he cried in public once. Absolutely - it was more to show how he did on a more even playing field and the utter shit players we've had for thee past 3 years. 1
johnnyboy Posted January 29 Posted January 29 On 28/01/2025 at 09:50, Matthew Le God said: Nothing you say there counters this... It wasn't a point. You asked a question. A question isn't a point. I answered the question that you asked. So how is my answer not a valid answer to that question? Do you not know the difference between points/statements and questions? You appear not to! Plus even if there was something further back in the thread, which I can't see how there would be. This thread is 15 pages long. All I did is answer a question that was asked. Do you really expect everyone to read every post in a long thread to see if there was something else that changed the question so it can't be taken on face value? Is there a dullard emote !! 1
benjii Posted January 29 Posted January 29 Remember that time Kim called Trump a "dotard"? Brill bantz.
FarehamSaintJames Posted Saturday at 16:26 Author Posted Saturday at 16:26 Just getting it in there now. Sure Juric has to work with some crap, but he does not help himself and is tactically poor. Juric out. 😂 5 1
AlexLaw76 Posted Saturday at 16:32 Posted Saturday at 16:32 He is f-ing awful...please leave in the summer 3 1
Wsaint Posted Saturday at 16:59 Posted Saturday at 16:59 32 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Just getting it in there now. Sure Juric has to work with some crap, but he does not help himself and is tactically poor. Juric out. 😂 Whoops
Baird of the land Posted Saturday at 17:09 Posted Saturday at 17:09 Glad he’s got the monkey off his back with a win. 5
Lighthouse Posted Saturday at 17:15 Posted Saturday at 17:15 3 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: Glad he’s got the monkey off his back with a win. Agree. I can’t say it really feels like a breakthrough, given how poor both teams were and Muric handing us goals on a plate, but a wins a win and I’ll take them however they come. Hopefully Ivan can steer us towards another 6-7 points and we’ll be just another crap, forgotten team with a sub-20 points tally.
Turkish Posted Saturday at 17:23 Posted Saturday at 17:23 This season he’s One point less than Martin but from half the games. 3
trousers Posted Saturday at 17:31 Posted Saturday at 17:31 6 minutes ago, Turkish said: This season he’s One point less than Martin but from half the games. It's almost as if ditching Martin and trying someone else was worth talking a punt.... P.s. we're not allowed to mention Martin anymore, so we should both "move on"... 1
Lighthouse Posted Saturday at 17:37 Posted Saturday at 17:37 12 minutes ago, Turkish said: This season he’s One point less than Martin but from half the games. Martin had five, Juric has three. It it wasn’t for a Muric horror show, Ivan would be on seven defeats from seven games, let’s not pretend he’s been a revelation. 6 1
Harry_SFC Posted Saturday at 17:45 Posted Saturday at 17:45 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Martin had five, Juric has three. It it wasn’t for a Muric horror show, Ivan would be on seven defeats from seven games, let’s not pretend he’s been a revelation. I'm not a huge fan of the manager but... If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle and all that. Edited Saturday at 17:50 by Harry_SFC
Turkish Posted Saturday at 17:49 Posted Saturday at 17:49 8 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Martin had five, Juric has three. It it wasn’t for a Muric horror show, Ivan would be on seven defeats from seven games, let’s not pretend he’s been a revelation. If it were going to play that game if wasn’t for a Beto horror show Martin would have 3 or even 2 from twice as many games. Juric has been a revelation compared to your boy. 7
Turkish Posted Saturday at 17:50 Posted Saturday at 17:50 17 minutes ago, trousers said: It's almost as if ditching Martin and trying someone else was worth talking a punt.... P.s. we're not allowed to mention Martin anymore, so we should both "move on"... only if you’re going to leap to his defence desperately clutching at straws to make out his replacement hasn’t don’t better already 😂😂😂 2
AlexLaw76 Posted Saturday at 17:50 Posted Saturday at 17:50 How many games did it take Martin to win in the premier league…. After a full pre season and a Wembley win? 1
Colinjb Posted Saturday at 17:52 Posted Saturday at 17:52 Just now, AlexLaw76 said: How many games did it take Martin to win in the premier league…. After a full pre season and a Wembley win? Are we talking a league win, or a moral, stylistic win? Because oh wow was Martin good at those. 1
Lighthouse Posted Saturday at 17:58 Posted Saturday at 17:58 5 minutes ago, Turkish said: If it were going to play that game if wasn’t for a Beto horror show Martin would have 3 or even 2 from twice as many games. Juric has been a revelation compared to your boy. If you say so. Personally I see very little difference between our performances and results now, compared to ‘my boy’. 6 2
Saint in Paradise Posted Saturday at 17:59 Posted Saturday at 17:59 On 29/01/2025 at 18:58, Matthew Le God said: It is weakness to admit to a mistake you have not made Not when you are married and had a winning argument with your wife, it's always better to let her "win" 😁 Plus a great win today !!!
Turkish Posted Saturday at 17:59 Posted Saturday at 17:59 4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: How many games did it take Martin to win in the premier league…. After a full pre season and a Wembley win? Martins first and only win came in match week 10 in the English premier soccerball league. A glorious 1-0 victory where we absolutely pulverised Everton into submission. Meanwhile useless Juric got a lucky win today in his 8th game.
Turkish Posted Saturday at 18:01 Posted Saturday at 18:01 2 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: If you say so. Personally I see very little difference between our performances and results now, compared to ‘my boy’. We’ve taken one less point in the last eight games than Martin took in his sixteen. If you can’t see the difference then I’m afraid no one can help you. 1
Harry_SFC Posted Saturday at 18:01 Posted Saturday at 18:01 3 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: If you say so. Personally I see very little difference between our performances and results now, compared to ‘my boy’. We look a lot better going forwards and just as bad at the back. So, a clear improvement in my eyes. 6
Turkish Posted Saturday at 18:03 Posted Saturday at 18:03 9 minutes ago, Colinjb said: Are we talking a league win, or a moral, stylistic win? Because oh wow was Martin good at those. Unbeaten I believe?
Colinjb Posted Saturday at 18:04 Posted Saturday at 18:04 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: We’ve taken one less point in the last eight games than Martin took in his sixteen. If you can’t see the difference then I’m afraid no one can help you. He was a Forest goal line clearance away from matching him. The same Forest who won 7-0 today. As you say, the difference is evident. 4
Colinjb Posted Saturday at 18:07 Posted Saturday at 18:07 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: Unbeaten I believe? Only if you work in such vulgar terms.
Turkish Posted Saturday at 18:08 Posted Saturday at 18:08 2 minutes ago, Colinjb said: He was a Forest goal line clearance away from matching him. The same Forest who won 7-0 today. As you say, the difference is evident. If we’re also playing they “yeah but” game the foul on Ramsdale at Palace that wasn’t given, another point, the penalty VAR gave v Newcastle another point at least, the forest clearance he could easily have got 3-6 more than that 3
ErwinK1961 Posted Saturday at 18:09 Posted Saturday at 18:09 8 minutes ago, Turkish said: We’ve taken one* less point in the last eight games than Martin took in his sixteen. If you can’t see the difference then I’m afraid no one can help you. *Two
Convict Colony Posted Saturday at 18:10 Posted Saturday at 18:10 Can I also say i like this formation, if we can be a Temu version of Atalanta I will take that currently.
Farmer Saint Posted Saturday at 18:14 Posted Saturday at 18:14 Updated win percentages for our last 5 managers then...have to bear in mind we had a much better squad in 2022/2023. Juric 14.3% win percentage 0.43 PPG 1.00 goals pg 2.57 goals against pg Martin 6% win percentage 0.31 PPG 0.69 goals pg 2.25 goals against pg Selles 12% win percentage 0.63 PPG 1.13 goals pg 2.06 goals against pg Jones 12% win percentage 0.38 PPG 0.75 goals pg 2.00 goals against pg Hassenhuttl 21% win percentage 0.86 PPG 0.86 goals pg 1.71 goals against pg 2
The Kraken Posted Saturday at 18:19 Posted Saturday at 18:19 14 minutes ago, Turkish said: We’ve taken one less point in the last eight games than Martin took in his sixteen. If you can’t see the difference then I’m afraid no one can help you. I think we’re here. The new manager is nowhere near being impressive, but it’s clear to almost anyone that there has been a bit of a positive difference since he took over. 2
coalman Posted Saturday at 18:20 Posted Saturday at 18:20 There were some odd substitutions today. Admittedly that's likely to be a factor of our bench. Yet to be convinced with the 3 centre backs but great to break our losing streak. 1
aintforever Posted Saturday at 18:22 Posted Saturday at 18:22 7 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: Updated win percentages for our last 5 managers then...have to bear in mind we had a much better squad in 2022/2023. Juric 14.3% win percentage 0.43 PPG 1.00 goals pg 2.57 goals against pg Martin 6% win percentage 0.31 PPG 0.69 goals pg 2.25 goals against pg Selles 12% win percentage 0.63 PPG 1.13 goals pg 2.06 goals against pg Jones 12% win percentage 0.38 PPG 0.75 goals pg 2.00 goals against pg Hassenhuttl 21% win percentage 0.86 PPG 0.86 goals pg 1.71 goals against pg Sacking Ralph was obviously a massive fuck up.
Farmer Saint Posted Saturday at 18:29 Posted Saturday at 18:29 5 minutes ago, aintforever said: Sacking Ralph was obviously a massive fuck up. Not many of us thought that at the time. I think we were vastly over-estimating the ability of our players. 1
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