LGTL Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 Pleased with this appointment. Hopefully no more hugging the players and noddy fist pumps. 4
goodymatt Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 On the face of it this is a decent appointment. This guys strengths appear to cover our most evident weaknesses over the season to date. He has top flight experience and although his stock has fallen post Roma, there were mitigating circumstances and perhaps that is why he’s now interested having seemingly rejected us in 2022. Some pundits have questioned this direction as a move away from possession football but it’s a clear change to a style that could have us punching above our weight rather than self destructing and only looking good in the middle third of the pitch. Remains to be seen what our squad is capable of and if it can play this style effectively having been built for possession football in the last few windows but my expectation is that we will get more points playing this way (not a high bar). Relegation is all but confirmed but let’s give the remaining games a good go and see if we can build some positive momentum. 5
Spoonman Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 I like the cut of his gib, hopefully he can restore a bit of pride 1
skintsaint Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 23 minutes ago, SaintsBarry74 said: Well, yes... 5 points after 16 games isn't exactly very impressive, is it? It would've been concerning if he claimed we were meeting expectations. Already having a go 😅 Welcome and Good luck Ivan! 1
Lighthouse Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 Good luck to him. I’ll be astonished if he keeps us up but 10-15 more points at least keeps us away from more dreadful, unwanted records. 5
VectisSaint Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 No mention of any coaching staff, who will probably find it harder to get visas.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 Whoever came in it was going to be a huge risk for them - less so Saints as the expectation is relegation from most bystanders and supporters. For that I think he should be thanked and given as much support as possible by the club and supporters alike. Priority for any Jan spend (if indeed money is available), MUST be to offload deadwood and buy a decent striker - not 3-4 squad fillers. Good luck annd welcome Ivan - hopefully you will lift the club above the Derby record low points at the very least and restore a little pride to our club. 8
Convict Colony Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 3 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Whoever came in it was going to be a huge risk for them - less so Saints as the expectation is relegation from most bystanders and supporters. For that I think he should be thanked and given as much support as possible by the club and supporters alike. Priority for any Jan spend (if indeed money is available), MUST be to offload deadwood and buy a decent striker - not 3-4 squad fillers. Good luck annd welcome Ivan - hopefully you will lift the club above the Derby record low points at the very least and restore a little pride to our club. The year is 2050 and southampton are still trying to find a striker to replace danny ings 13
SWLondon Saint Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 (edited) 10 minutes ago, CSA96 said: '...what is important in football is to play the games for win, that's my idea of football.' Our squad: 🤯 It'll never catch on mate. Edited 21 December, 2024 by SWLondon Saint 7
Osvaldorama Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 Optimistic about him. Everything about this seems more logical than Jones/Selles/Martin 11
adrian lord Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 Looking forward to Ivan. Which Ivan of yore will he emulate? Ivan I, "The Moneybag", Grand Duke of Moscow (1325–1340) Ivan II, "The Fair", Grand Duke of Moscow (1353–1359) Ivan III, "The Great", Grand Prince of Moscow (1462–1505) Ivan IV, "The Terrible", Russian tsar (1547–1584) 1 3
Saint1963 Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 Just now, Osvaldorama said: Optimistic about him. Everything about this seems more logical than Jones/Selles/Martin Agree entirely 1
sandwichsaint Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 2 minutes ago, adrian lord said: Looking forward to Ivan. Which Ivan of yore will he emulate? Ivan I, "The Moneybag", Grand Duke of Moscow (1325–1340) Ivan II, "The Fair", Grand Duke of Moscow (1353–1359) Ivan III, "The Great", Grand Prince of Moscow (1462–1505) Ivan IV, "The Terrible", Russian tsar (1547–1584) I will settle for Ivan The Bastard 2 4
macca155 Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 Proofs in the pudding of course, but he seems to be something different to the previous incumbent. By the sound of it We are going to see more athletic work horses featuring in his teams. He will need a midfield grafter ASAP to support Downes. That has to be priority one. 2
Osvaldorama Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 Worst case, even if he is shit, at least he sounds like a nutter. At least that will be good entertainment value. Would pay good money to watch him nut Rasmus or Jack Stephens 1 11
Saint Keef Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 14 minutes ago, sandwichsaint said: I will settle for Ivan The Bastard Ivan The Magician if he can get us out of this shit. 1
pimpin4rizeal Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 Heard his football described as shit housery 101 which will make a fantastic change from martins nice team to play for every other club philosophy.. he’s managed at higher level then a lot of the others we where linked with and had most of his clubs punching above their weight ., I think the Roma job was never gonna work out as they had just sacked club legend de Rossi and juric was never accepted .. all in all though I think this looks like it could be a shrewd move and better then expected .. happy with this 1
david in sweden Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 6 hours ago, trousers said: Please don't take this a criticism David, as I enjoy reading your posts,but one thing has been bugging me down the years and I can't hold back my curiosity any longer...! Why do you often have a line-break / carriage-return mid paragraph...? (for a simpleton like me, it makes it less easy to read 😁) Cheers! 👍🍻 Oh Trousers. Sorry if... "the spacing".. is troubling you . I'm not overly fond of underlining which (to me ) looks/feels like a shout, or an order. I like to think of it / them as a breath, or pause for thought instead. I was amused to read a while ago, that some well-known recipients of the Nobel Prize for Literature mistreated the English language and use of grammar to an extreme, but it was the content of their work that was most interesting - irrespective of misuse. Occasionally I get a comment from an angry Grammarian, but at least my spelling is reasonably acceptable. b.t.w. I quite enjoy many of your posts, compared to some others who show less respect. 2 3
Stripey McStripe Shirt Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 3 minutes ago, david in sweden said: b.t.w. I quite enjoy many of your posts, compared to some others who show less respect. Any names? 😁 1
derry Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 I've seen somewhere he's bringing his usual three coaching staff in with him. I'm looking forward to the change in emphasis. He speaks excellent English. 3
beatlesaint Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 30 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said: Heard his football described as shit housery 101 which will make a fantastic change from martins nice team to play for every other club philosophy.. If he can out shit housery Eddie fkin Howe and his dark arts he’ll do for me ! 4
bugenhagen Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 1 hour ago, goodymatt said: On the face of it this is a decent appointment. This guys strengths appear to cover our most evident weaknesses over the season to date. He has top flight experience and although his stock has fallen post Roma, there were mitigating circumstances and perhaps that is why he’s now interested having seemingly rejected us in 2022. Some pundits have questioned this direction as a move away from possession football but it’s a clear change to a style that could have us punching above our weight rather than self destructing and only looking good in the middle third of the pitch. Remains to be seen what our squad is capable of and if it can play this style effectively having been built for possession football in the last few windows but my expectation is that we will get more points playing this way (not a high bar). Relegation is all but confirmed but let’s give the remaining games a good go and see if we can build some positive momentum. Well... I would argue we even failed at that... (thankfully) We bought more BBD's than Lallanas over the last few windows 😄 1
Greedyfly Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: I wonder how brave he is? Fucking brave if he's come here. 16
gecko Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 For teams like us, I think the most important attribute for a manager is their ability to make a team as a whole perform better than the sum of its parts This guy seems to have a solid history of doing this elsewhere. I see no reason to be anything other than optimistic for now. Welcome Ivan. 11
StrangelyBrown Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 Welcome Ivan! Looking forward to some aggressive front footed football. It will be a nice break from needing to trust the process, be brave or any of the rest of the previous charlatan's bobbins. 1
davefizzy14 Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 Welcome onboard Ivan Jurić 😊 looking forward to seeing what you can do. 4
Turkish Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 Welcome Ivan Let’s hope you can sort tjhis Shower out 1
Saint Billy Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 (edited) It will be interesting to see what players he decides to use and who he thinks are not up to the job. Also, who comes and goes in the transfer window and if Ivan has any say. Edited 21 December, 2024 by Saint Billy
Oldandtired Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 I'm looking forward to see how this pans out. He almost has a free pass for this season from me, as I said in a previous post just give me something to enthuse over. 2
saint francis Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 Looking forward to something different. I can half-understand why they persevered with Martin for longer than they should have, for "some" of the latter games it seemed like we were improving, just a bit. New boss, but NOT same as the old boss. Bring it on. 1
LiberalCommunist Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 Excited for change. Martins approach really drained all the fun some time ago. Be nice to see the players enjoying their football. 9
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 2 hours ago, Master Bates said: Who's coming with him? Didn't he bring in Lyanco to Torino? Hope he's not coming with him!!! 1
trousers Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 1 hour ago, david in sweden said: Oh Trousers. Sorry if... "the spacing".. is troubling you . I'm not overly fond of underlining which (to me ) looks/feels like a shout, or an order. I like to think of it / them as a breath, or pause for thought instead. I was amused to read a while ago, that some well-known recipients of the Nobel Prize for Literature mistreated the English language and use of grammar to an extreme, but it was the content of their work that was most interesting - irrespective of misuse. Occasionally I get a comment from an angry Grammarian, but at least my spelling is reasonably acceptable. b.t.w. I quite enjoy many of your posts, compared to some others who show less respect. Cheers for the explanation David, and thank you kindly Sir 👍🍻 1
Mixedkebab Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 Welcome Ivan Lendl things I would like to see a new captain pressing, movement and fitness as priorities Players played in their best positions with no hipster john stones bollocks some deadwood shite players shipped out in January The team taking “pride” in keeping clean sheets rather than from passing it round at the back 3
trousers Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 2 hours ago, CSA96 said: Breath of fresh air. Sretno Ivan! 🇭🇷 4
Saint Gifford Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 This appears to have Dragans fingerprints all over it. That surely isn’t a bad thing. Could this be the end for the Nordic nonce. 3
Suhari Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 4 hours ago, Dragon_man said: Is it me or does that picture make him look like a Vatican employee with something to hide? Satan's Alley is the greatest film never made.
CanadaSaint Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 27 minutes ago, Saint Gifford said: This appears to have Dragans fingerprints all over it. That surely isn’t a bad thing. Could this be the end for the Nordic nonce. I suspect you’re absolutely right on both counts. There’s no way this would have gone ahead without Dragan’s sign-off, and it may even have been at his instigation. The credibility of Rasmus’s ‘master plan’ can be gauged from the tactical diversity of the managers we have seriously considered and/or appointed - Marsch, Juric, Jones, Selles and Martin, and now back to Juric. That’s not a masterplan, it’s a fart in an egotistical thunderstorm, and I think/hope that Dragan has rumbled him. He doesn’t have to get rid of Rasmus, just stop letting him make the big decisions. 1
Maggie May Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 1 hour ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said: Didn't he bring in Lyanco to Torino? Hope he's not coming with him!!! No he didn’t.
austsaint Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 4 hours ago, Dragon_man said: Is it me or does that picture make him look like a Vatican employee with something to hide? Somewhere between that and one of Robert De Niro’s un-hinged characters. I haven’t felt this encouraged about some sort of Saint’s revival since the better days of Ralph….before he hit the wall. 1
Badger Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 57 minutes ago, Saint Gifford said: This appears to have Dragans fingerprints all over it. That surely isn’t a bad thing. Could this be the end for the Nordic nonce. The Norwegians I knew some years ago would take exception to this. Danish dickhead is more appropriate surely ?
Badger Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 3 hours ago, adrian lord said: Looking forward to Ivan. Which Ivan of yore will he emulate? Ivan I, "The Moneybag", Grand Duke of Moscow (1325–1340) Ivan II, "The Fair", Grand Duke of Moscow (1353–1359) Ivan III, "The Great", Grand Prince of Moscow (1462–1505) Ivan IV, "The Terrible", Russian tsar (1547–1584) 1 hour ago, Mixedkebab said: Welcome Ivan Lendl I’m hoping he’s the second greatest Ivan in our history, after Golac 1
CB Fry Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 3 hours ago, CSA96 said: Seems like a huge leap forward already. Goals conceded in three Serie A seasons at Torino - 41, 41, 36. Not quite 60+ every season in the Championship and L1. 6
SNSUN Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 1 hour ago, trousers said: Breath of fresh air. Sretno Ivan! 🇭🇷 He speaks very well. I do think he's being a little naive about our predicament when he says 'get the points over the next few games' but he's hardly going to say "we're fucked, I'm here for the dosh" so, as you say, he seems like a breath of fresh air right now. Whether he can do anything remotely better than Martin with this squad remains to be seen but that's not exactly a high bar. 2
bugenhagen Posted 21 December, 2024 Posted 21 December, 2024 42 minutes ago, Badger said: The Norwegians I knew some years ago would take exception to this. Danish dickhead is more appropriate surely ? I concur 😃 🇳🇴 Cheers Badger! In most cases I don’t mind a common association with my danish neighbours, but when we are referring to Ankersen, I do insist we make a clear distinction 😉 1
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