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Fulham 0-0 Southampton - Match Thread

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What is the point of Armstrong? Useless. At least tall Paul holds it up. Shall we try and shoot? Attack? Win a game? This lot are not great. Better to give it a go than hang on for a fairly useless point. Otherwise why bother?

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davefizzy14

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Defensively we have been pretty solid. But need to show much more in the final third. We haven't created anything yet. Would like to see Lallana, Onuachu, Sulemana and Archer on. 

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Mr X

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Just now, beatlesaint said:

What a welcome relief to see the ball cleared when it’s in a dangerous area as opposed to this being brave bollocks

The only thing that's been an improvement today along with not conceding after 2 minutes 

saintant

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Just now, beatlesaint said:

What a welcome relief to see the ball cleared when it’s in a dangerous area as opposed to this being brave bollocks

That's the big positive from that first half. Previously we'd have gifted Fulham at least one goal by now.

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saintant

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Just now, Saint NL said:

If you'd put a fiver on a Armstrong offside and Downes yellow card each game, you'd be rich by now 🤣

To be fair Downes was unlucky and the club should be appealing that - it was a good tackle and not dangerous.

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Scoobysaint

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Everybody called out for more direct, less messing around at the back. How many times already have we just given possession back with long punts from Ramsdale. The target is Aribo but it doesn’t work. Why can’t we have a sensible version of Russball. Pass and move but if you’re in the shite, you lump it. We seem to be playing a very confused way today. Good that the new gaffer is seeing this before the work starts tomorrow. 

benjii

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Downes yellow card was a joke. Hope that doesn't come back to bite us.

Keep it tight then try some subs and a slight tweak of shape to sneak the win.

Need some presence up top. That could be Tall Paul or it could also be Lallana to retain possession a bit better.

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eurosaint

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1 minute ago, Saint NL said:

If you'd put a fiver on a Armstrong offside and Downes yellow card each game, you'd be rich by now 🤣

Downes yellow was a joke, he clearly got the ball 🤷‍♂️

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Holmes_and_Watson

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Fulham the stronger. But we've kept them reasonably comfortably to shots from distance, and have covered those quite well.

We look more solid at the back, using Martin's passing angles along with more flexible range from the back. No suicidal passing today, as the players are allowed to choose what's best.

Nothing to speak of up front. Dibling raw and a bit lightweight against his opponents, but the one who is getting it and being direct. AA very quiet, working a lot of ground across the park. Fernandes doing okay. But no real chances created.

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Lord Duckhunter

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Proper defensive performance for once. But limited going forward, Dibling been off it for a couple of games now (which happens with youngsters) and AA is fucking pony. Hopefully we can stay in the game, defending properly, before getting TP, Lallana & Archer on to give it a go in the last 20.

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davefizzy14

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1 minute ago, saintant said:

To be fair Downes was unlucky and the club should be appealing that - it was a good tackle and not dangerous.

Yep perfectly good tackle from Flynn. Never a yellow, joke of a decision. 

Chez

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Wood error there - losing it in a bad area. He did that sort of thing a lot last season for Swansea. He'll have to cut that out of his game. Bednarek covers him, so it didnt matter this time.

St. Ciervo

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1 minute ago, Scoobysaint said:

Everybody called out for more direct, less messing around at the back. How many times already have we just given possession back with long punts from Ramsdale. The target is Aribo but it doesn’t work. Why can’t we have a sensible version of Russball. Pass and move but if you’re in the shite, you lump it. We seem to be playing a very confused way today. Good that the new gaffer is seeing this before the work starts tomorrow. 

Its a 50/50 ball for a reason. Our only chances came from this type of punt, as well. My A-hole hasn't been puckered for 45 straight minutes either. So thats a win for at least me. 

Gloucester Saint

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3 minutes ago, danjosaint said:

They tried with big les

They did but Les Dennis would have been more effective and reliable. Could bring Carlton Palmer out of retirement, similar physical attributes and first touch even in his 50s.

NewYorkSaint

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Armstrong's been doing his part in an occasionally impressive press, but I agree he shd give way to tall Paul or Archer.  I'd keep Dibling on.   How good would a clean sheet feel?  I'm v happy to have Bednarek as captain. Feel he's been a seriously under-appreciated player.  Always gives his all.

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HarvSFC

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Not the most inspiring first half, but it is still 0-0, as opposed to last week when we were 5-0 down.

Been looking for the high press, as it's been a much needed tactic that we've needed to go back to for a long while now, but I haven't seen it. Dibling, there's a lot of noise about him being a poor trainer/a bit too relaxed and today I'm not seeing anything from him off the ball. He's not even breaking into a jog and on the ball he's being trying to do too much today. Playing like an individual, rather than a team player and I don't think his off the ball work would be accepted at a bigger club. Adam Armstrong, we all knew he'd be poor, but again he's not even running off the ball today. Several phases of play where Leno's just been on the ball unpressured. Man United closed down Forster in midweek and got a goal from it. Put pressure on the goalkeeper, sometimes they pass it to forwards, as we've become all too accustomed to.

I think the two players that would have impressed Juric so far are two Martin favourites. Downes and Wood. Downes has been putting himself about well, received a very harsh booking. Give him some more positional discipline and I think he'll suit Juric. While, Wood has looked good at centre-back once again, following a Holgateesque debut.

I know the three centre-backs is also a Juric formation, but I think we need more bodies up the pitch for some control and we also need an out ball up the field.

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Chez

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1 minute ago, davefizzy14 said:

Yep perfectly good tackle from Flynn. Never a yellow, joke of a decision. 

...and then five minutes later KWP is obviously pulled back and the ref ignores it. 

That said, hardy the ref's fault we have done absolutely fuck all. This five at the back formation does nothing for us going forward.  I hate it. I guess we haven't conceded...

suewhistle

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Well.. we've not conceded and I rather prefer us being brave further up the pitch. Lack of quality in the final third as usual.

What I noticed is that KWP has lost a bit of pace and some of the things he tries don't come off; perhaps he needs to change his approach a little. Aribo is another lacking just that bit of pace at this level although he's strong enough.

We were pressing more but not sure how long we can maintain it.

I hope the referee watches the video at half time of Downes' tackle and blushes deeply..

coalman

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We've gone from high risk no reward football to low risk no reward football. That's still a step forward. Get Dibling, Aribo and Armstrong off and let's have a go at them.

Gloucester Saint

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4 minutes ago, Chez said:

Wood error there - losing it in a bad area. He did that sort of thing a lot last season for Swansea. He'll have to cut that out of his game. Bednarek covers him, so it didnt matter this time.

It was but better to eliminate that out of his game this season through minutes/coachinh and then be one of the star performers in the Champ next season. 

Zorba

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Manning on at LB, KWP over to the right. Push Suga up. Dibling off, give him a rest. Tall Paul on. Armstrong off.

Saints win 2-0. Job done.

SfcPhil

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5 minutes ago, NewYorkSaint said:

Armstrong's been doing his part in an occasionally impressive press, but I agree he shd give way to tall Paul or Archer.  I'd keep Dibling on.   How good would a clean sheet feel?  I'm v happy to have Bednarek as captain. Feel he's been a seriously under-appreciated player.  Always gives his all.

Thought we should've given him the captaincy last season. He's literally the only player that we have that communicates to others throughout the game. He's a full international with 65 caps under his belt as well. Hopefully Ivan takes the captaincy from Jack. The way he acted in the Chelsea game alone is enough to strip him of it IMO.

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saintant

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We aren't likely to avoid relegation so I can't see why we aren't having a go at winning this game. If we lose trying what difference does it make - let's go for 3 points rather than protecting one point which'll make little difference to us.

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benjii

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3 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

Not sure Dibling will be in the side for long if he gives up that easily when Juric is in charge...

Well, hopefully Juric doesn't try to play him as an inside forward and sticks him on the wing when we're trying to win games.

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benjii

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1 minute ago, saintant said:

We aren't likely to avoid relegation so I can't see why we aren't having a go at winning this game. If we lose trying what difference does it make - let's go for 3 points rather than protecting one point which'll make little difference to us.

Because we have been shipping goals for fun. Fuck me. 

Saint86

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Just now, obelisk said:

Archer on for Dibling. Not a great surprise.

Sadly sounds like dibling's already got his eyes on the exit door after the way he was previously treated. Been a few stories leaking out lately (could ofc be agent related). But he hasn't signed a new contract and his performances have dropped off, ties in with the leak that he's pissed off at the club 😢. 

washsaint

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SO our one creative player, that can actually make things happen, is taken off while the useless piece of shit that is Armstrong stays on.

What a dull, uninspiring team/squad we have.  Throughly depressing club.

Gloucester Saint

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1 minute ago, Saint86 said:

Sadly sounds like dibling's already got his eyes on the exit door after the way he was previously treated. Been a few stories leaking out lately (could ofc be agent related). But he hasn't signed a new contract and his performances have dropped off, ties in with the leak that he's pissed off at the club 😢. 

What were the rumours of mistreatment?

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