The Reform Thread

[aintforever]

36 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

As has been said many times, most of these types are simply pious virtue signalling types, desperate to be seen by others as caring and open minded whereas as truth be told inside, they feel the same as the majority, they just won't say as they have dug a hole for themselves in decrying others as far right bigots. 

You can want asylum seekers to be treated humanely and fairly without wanting to share your home with strangers. I don’t have a problem with my tax being used to pay for an asylum system that is fit for purpose, I don’t expect anyone to have to give up rooms in their own home.

Is that pious enough?

Edited Saturday at 12:33 by aintforever

[east-stand-nic]

11 minutes ago, aintforever said:

You can want asylum seekers to be treated humanely and fairly without wanting to share your home with strangers. I don’t have a problem with my tax being used to pay for an asylum system that is fit for purpose, I don’t expect anyone to have to give up rooms in their own home.

Is that pious enough?

That depends on your definition of Asylum seeker. Th young men of fighting age appearing on boats every day illegally are NOT asylum seekers. I don't care how you try and dress it up with wokery or political clap trap. The fact is they are arriving here in masses illegally and should be stopped. I do care about the billions per year being spent on housing them etc. Did you know, that is I return to the UK broke I get nothing. Yet someone can walk in illegally off a dingy and get everything. Fair? No. I don't care what you say, that is disgusting. Talk any whataboutery you want, fact is we should look after own our first and after yes, legitimate refugees. NOT tese illegals coming over to over run our systems. The end.

PS. Don't anyone dare with technicalities, that is all just BS whitewashing of the facts. If I turned up in America, Saudi, India or Thailand (just a few examples) in the same fashion I would be deported. We are a soft touch and that is in part why they are here.

Edited Saturday at 12:41 by east-stand-nic
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[aintforever]

42 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

That depends on your definition of Asylum seeker. Th young men of fighting age appearing on boats every day illegally are NOT asylum seekers. I don't care how you try and dress it up with wokery or political clap trap. The fact is they are arriving here in masses illegally and should be stopped. I do care about the billions per year being spent on housing them etc. Did you know, that is I return to the UK broke I get nothing. Yet someone can walk in illegally off a dingy and get everything. Fair? No. I don't care what you say, that is disgusting. Talk any whataboutery you want, fact is we should look after own our first and after yes, legitimate refugees. NOT tese illegals coming over to over run our systems. The end.

PS. Don't anyone dare with technicalities, that is all just BS whitewashing of the facts. If I turned up in America, Saudi, India or Thailand (just a few examples) in the same fashion I would be deported. We are a soft touch and that is in part why they are here.

I agree that economic migrants arriving here illegally should be sent back, absolutely. The fact that they are mainly young males doesn’t necessarily mean they are all economic migrants though, could just be because they are more able and willing to make what is a difficult and dangerous journey.

[sadoldgit]

It sounds like someone has been listening to Nigel Farage again. It’s sad that someone with such a great intellect gets sucked in by someone with such a small intellect. “Young men of fighting age?”. Have you ever stopped to think that they are coming here because they don’t want to fight or live in a country where that is the only option if you stay? Perhaps you should try and look past your tribalist instincts and consider that all human beings deserve to be treated as equals? The vast majority of people turning up on these shores are genuine asylum seekers. Just because some aren’t doesn’t mean that all of them should be tarred with the same brush nic. You call me a racist but you are the one who clearly has an issue with “foreigners”.

[Lord Duckhunter]

20 hours ago, aintforever said:

I agree that economic migrants arriving here illegally should be sent back, absolutely. The fact that they are mainly young males doesn’t necessarily mean they are all economic migrants though, could just be because they are more able and willing to make what is a difficult and dangerous journey.

Clueless. 
 

Where are you going to send these “economic migrants” back to?
 

They don’t turn up saying “hello, I’m here for a better life and job prospects”. They all pretend they’re asylum seekers fleeing war, and soft arsed lefties like you let them stay.
 

Anyone who ends up in France is safe. Whist understandable, all they’re fleeing is French people, not war. They’re making a “difficult and dangerous journey”not out of necessity, but out of choice. They’re deciding they’d rather live here than in France. If that’s not an economic migrant my cocks a carrot. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

12 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Have you ever stopped to think that they are coming here because they don’t want to fight or live in a country where that is the only option if you stay?

They’re coming from France 🤡 

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12 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

It sounds like someone has been listening to Nigel Farage again. It’s sad that someone with such a great intellect gets sucked in by someone with such a small intellect. “Young men of fighting age?”. Have you ever stopped to think that they are coming here because they don’t want to fight or live in a country where that is the only option if you stay? Perhaps you should try and look past your tribalist instincts and consider that all human beings deserve to be treated as equals? The vast majority of people turning up on these shores are genuine asylum seekers. Just because some aren’t doesn’t mean that all of them should be tarred with the same brush nic. You call me a racist but you are the one who clearly has an issue with “foreigners”.

So basically no point having border control, all are welcome?

[east-stand-nic]

On 27/04/2025 at 04:29, sadoldgit said:

It sounds like someone has been listening to Nigel Farage again. It’s sad that someone with such a great intellect gets sucked in by someone with such a small intellect. “Young men of fighting age?”. Have you ever stopped to think that they are coming here because they don’t want to fight or live in a country where that is the only option if you stay? Perhaps you should try and look past your tribalist instincts and consider that all human beings deserve to be treated as equals? The vast majority of people turning up on these shores are genuine asylum seekers. Just because some aren’t doesn’t mean that all of them should be tarred with the same brush nic. You call me a racist but you are the one who clearly has an issue with “foreigners”.

I cannot even begin to embarrass you on how many points you have wrong here. LD has already pretty much done it anyway. BTW, I live in a foreign country you pious racist twat. I am also married to an Asian lady and have mixed race kids. Yep, I am racist. Well done jackass. Jeez you are by far the most thick and moronic person I have ever come across.

They are NOT vast majority genuine cases you fool. That is why they are all males of fighting age coming from FRANCE. They are here for many reasons, one of them is NOT asylum in any way shape or form. Not wanting to burden our services and infrastructure is not a fear of foreigners you inverted racist pious fool. It is seeing an issue and knowing we cannot carry on like this. BTW, how fair you do think it is that landlords are being encouraged to house these people (government paid 100%) over our own homeless or families already on the waiting list for housing? I am sorry but you know it is a problem and wrong but like so many old racists trying to pay a penance for previous wrongs, you are acting pious etc. Deep down you know it is wrong.

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[tdmickey3]

55 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

I cannot even begin to embarrass you on how many points you have wrong here. LD has already pretty much done it anyway. BTW, I live in a foreign country you pious racist twat. I am also married to an Asian lady and have mixed race kids. Yep, I am racist. Well done jackass. Jeez you are by far the most thick and moronic person I have ever come across.

They are NOT vast majority genuine cases you fool. That is why they are all males of fighting age coming from FRANCE. They are here for many reasons, one of them is NOT asylum in any way shape or form. Not wanting to burden our services and infrastructure is not a fear of foreigners you inverted racist pious fool. It is seeing an issue and knowing we cannot carry on like this. BTW, how fair you do think it is that landlords are being encouraged to house these people (government paid 100%) over our own homeless or families already on the waiting list for housing? I am sorry but you know it is a problem and wrong but like so many old racists trying to pay a penance for previous wrongs, you are acting pious etc. Deep down you know it is wrong.

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2 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

have

 

21 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Clueless. 
 

Where are you going to send these “economic migrants” back to?
 

They don’t turn up saying “hello, I’m here for a better life and job prospects”. They all pretend they’re asylum seekers fleeing war, and soft arsed lefties like you let them stay.
 

Anyone who ends up in France is safe. Whist understandable, all they’re fleeing is French people, not war. They’re making a “difficult and dangerous journey”not out of necessity, but out of choice. They’re deciding they’d rather live here than in France. If that’s not an economic migrant my cocks a carrot. 

So what are you saying should happen to those people who arrive from France? The French won't take them back.

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24 minutes ago, egg said:

 

So what are you saying should happen to those people who arrive from France? The French won't take them back.

Sorry @tdmickey3, not sure why you were quoted. I was replying just to LD.