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1 minute ago, trousers said:

"Plucky defeat"... 🤦‍♂️

 

Bullshit from Blackmore as he tows the party line. Grow a pair man even if it upsets Russell and you are banned from reporting on the club. You'll have 99% of the fans support.  Start asking him the tough questions on behalf of the fans.

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4 minutes ago, trousers said:

"Plucky defeat"... 🤦‍♂️

 

Blackmore can fuck off too with this detestable spin on that performance to suggest we played ok. Clearly he’s scared shitless of Martin yet was only too happy to do a huge piece on how out of his depth Nathan Jones was, including an interview slagging him off with Paul Doswell. What an absolutely spineless 2 faced clown

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I went to my local non-league team, Dorchester today. They went 1-0 up then had a dodgy red card and penalty given against them, went in at half time 2-1 down. 

The players and fans came out for the second half angry and up for the challenge - and ended up winning the game 4-2. That kind of resilience, determination and ACTUAL bravery I don't remember ever seeing in a Russell Martin Saints team. 

I'll be sticking to watching the Magpies from now on. 

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2 minutes ago, saintant said:

Bullshit from Blackmore as he tows the party line. Grow a pair man even if it upsets Russell and you are banned from reporting on the club. You'll have 99% of the fans support.  Start asking him the tough questions on behalf of the fans.

100% agree he needs to stop giving Russ lip service and man up, he is part of the problem!

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10 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Martin will love that

That’s why that spineless fool posted it. He obviously got all fragile and worried at his little run ins with Martin in the past so is now so far up his Arse you can only see his toes poking out. 
 

you want to see a reporter being critical when it warrants it, not just towing the line and insulting several thousand fans intelligence in the process. Otherwise there’s no point in him bothering 

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Bravery. RussBall simply oozes bravery. I have only just come to this startling realisation.

I always thought that the game of Foot-the-ball involved winning games, through the mechanism is 'scoring a goal'; and, that achieving said 'goal' was facilitated by 'having a shot '.

RussBall simply oozes bravery. To play so long, presumably with at least a shread of intent to win, and NOT have a shot. Man, that's brave. He's reinvented the game. Brilliant.

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10 minutes ago, West end Saints said:

Our biggest, of several problems, is lack of premier quality players rather than the manager.

Maybe a better manager would improve us a bit, but we have never had a team anywhere near as weak as this. 

Agree we haven’t got the best squad we have ever had. 

But there is enough here for a decent manager, that can get players playing.

No jokes we even have a couple players a lot of teams in this league would want. 

It starts with a plan and blueprint. But is adaptable and fluid to suit the opposition and occasional. 
 

We keep repeating the same crap. Some of these players are top drawer otherwise they wouldn’t be playing at this level. 
 

It’s the Manager and structure. Give any top 4 manager in any league in Europe, and we would be mid table with this squad in this particular season. 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, stknowle said:

You’re not wrong. I absolutely want that better manager in to improve us a bit though. That bit might just be enough to avoid the humiliation of the record low points total. That’s all this season is about now. Avoiding being statistically the worst team ever to play in this division.

Agree, that's my only last target

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7 minutes ago, Mr X said:

100% agree he needs to stop giving Russ lip service and man up, he is part of the problem!

Here's a list of questions you might ask Blackmore;

Russell, another defeat, is it time for you to admit your tactics don't work and never will and shouldn't you be tendering your resignation for the good of the club and their fans?

Why won't you change even though it's obvious to every commentator, pundit and fan that your methods are hopeless?

Was that another brave performance or was it a team hopelessly coached by a hopeless manager?

What do you want to say to the fans especially those who braved the storm to travel up here today? Did you do enough for them? Will they feel proud of you and the team?

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My comments before reading others. Beaten relatively comfortably by a Villa B-team that could and should have added more goals in the last 20 mins (Emery knows how to rest players, conserve energy and bring high calibre players on at the end who should have put that game to bed much earlier).

That said, we played not badly. Definitely the better team for the first 20 mins. Scuppered by a defensive mistake from HB and some pretty bad keeping by Lumley (could he have tried to make his big frame any smaller I ask myself?) Lumley was a liability throughout. 

Walker-Peters again showing his class, Dibbling too but has had better games. Downes good. Aribo good when he came on. Wood played well - still young but in a better team would look better. Fernandes had his worst game for us I think, just nothing happening for him and off the pace, dispossessed several times. Archer not great today. AA in normal role of hard-working runner with no goal threat.

We have a losing culture that is very hard to shake off. RM may not have the quality of players or squad others have but he still is out of his depth.

We are totally devoid of ideas or cutting edge when we do reach the top of the opposition's third of the field. It's almost like there's an invisible line where our players stop, turn around and pass it back. You just know that the ball will make it all the way back to our keeper and we'll gift possession away from there under pressure in our own third of the field.

What were the Villa fans singing? I couldn't make it out but the commentators were implying it was something like "It's time to give us the ball" when we were playing out from our six-yard box. We did oblige as normal - they just didn't finish.

Anyway, it's clear to me that SR are okay with us being relegated, will keep RM on until the end of the season short of fans staging walk-out protests and plan to 'strengthen for the long-term'. I think they have no idea how fortunate we were to get out of the Championship at the first attempt last season. Once we've lost all our best players and blown what little they'll reinvest on terrible recruitment reality will bite...for those who are happy with an instant return to the championship.

It's been a dire season so far. Never felt quite so detached, dis-engaged and disinterested in the team I've supported for over 55 years. 😳

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17 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

That’s why that spineless fool posted it. He obviously got all fragile and worried at his little run ins with Martin in the past so is now so far up his Arse you can only see his toes poking out. 
 

you want to see a reporter being critical when it warrants it, not just towing the line and insulting several thousand fans intelligence in the process. Otherwise there’s no point in him bothering 

A reporter should ask the questions that the fans want to ask.

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25 minutes ago, SNSUN said:

Buy goals? Our attack isn't the main problem, it's defenders that can't pass the ball as they're being told to.

They are being told how to pass it to our marked players in our defensive third. They wouldn’t  continue in exactly the same way otherwise. This is down to Martin and no one else….

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1 minute ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Brought up about the fans cheering when Lumley kicked it long

Is that literally all this fucking idiot has got? It runs a lot fucking deeper than that Russell, you utter utter cunt. It’s just an easy one for him to moan at, it’s about time he was given some serious heat on matchdays. This is 20 x worse than Jones now, for everything. Results, arrogance, contempt for the fans, saying he’s enjoying it. It’s just unbelievable 

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Just now, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Brought up about the fans cheering when Lumley kicked it long

He should count himself fucking lucky that's all the fans at the ground gave.

If memory serves, it only took about 5 or 6 games for Jones to get the "your football is shit" chants. Why is Russ not getting the same treatment? 

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If Martin wanted to improve this team's results play no short passes in defensive third. Goalkeeper play no short passes at all. All goal kicks wide into the opponents half. All throw ins down the line. Any tight situations put a boot through it. Drastic I know, but better than our tippy tappy invitations to opponents to score in our own penalty area. Play four at the back and two close together up front. I can think of many other things including tieing a crushed coke can to Manning and Aribo's left boot all week. Better still get rid of Martin and his staff. 

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