Villa 1-0 Saints - Match Thread

[S-Clarke]

Just now, coalman said:

Yes, Russ, it's bad luck. It's unbelievable that a team that creates so many clear cut opportunities for their opponents and can't make the opposition keeper make a save keeps failing to get points. I just hope TayTay is ok after he limply folded to let in their centre forward.

There is one more thing you could try. Fucking off.

I could accept some bemoaning of luck if we were on 11 points or something like that, at least in the conversation.

But we've got 5 points. 1 win. and what feels like 700 defeats with plenty of goals let in for good measure. That's not about luck, it's about being fundamentally shit.

[saintant]

1 minute ago, coalman said:

Yes, Russ, it's bad luck. It's unbelievable that a team that creates so many clear cut opportunities for their opponents and can't make the opposition keeper make a save keeps failing to get points. I just hope TayTay is ok after he limply folded to let in their centre forward.

There is one more thing you could try. Fucking off.

'Trust that it'll turn' - it might but not under the chief snake oil salesman.

[Galway saint]

I don’t know how much say RM had in the summer transfers but the attack we had today was very poor and when you combine that with ponderous build up we aren’t going to be scoring many. 

I can’t see any half decent manager taking the job as the club is clearly dysfunctional at the moment and relegation nailed on.

I can’t think of another season like this in 40 years of supporting the club. Yes we have had difficult seasons but we are so uncompetitive this season it’s untrue. 

 

[Lymington Saint]

I can't remember ever being less bothered about a Saints result.  I think that we are all resigned to relegation this season.  An intransigent manager and an ownership that is completely disengaged from the fanbase.  I think that we have collectively given up and I can't see a repeat of the kind of protests that got rid of Branfoot.  Which would probably be ignored anyway.

Just have to hope that by the start of next season RM is gone and either SR are gone or they have got a competent CEO and someone who knows about recruiting players.  Otherwise next season is going to be equally miserable.

[Fabrice29]

On 05/12/2024 at 15:41, Fabrice29 said:

Yeah he was playing to the crowd and launching it long when it wasn’t needed, and guess what..it involved giving the ball away and if Felix could shoot it would have led to a goal. 

RM right about the long balls btw, whether you like it or not. It happened Wednesday too. Cheering giving the ball away whether it’s short or long is strange. 

Anyway, new manager, new vibes, bring it on. 

[East Kent Saint]

1 minute ago, Fabrice29 said:

RM right about the long balls btw, whether you like it or not. It happened Wednesday too. Cheering giving the ball away whether it’s short or long is strange. 

Anyway, new manager, new vibes, bring it on. 

Thank you Glasgow !

[Zorba]

1 hour ago, SNSUN said:

So effectively we're shit when we pass out from the back and we're shit when we kick it long. Got it.

We're just shit.

We’re shit at the front,

We’re shit at the back,

Fuck off Russ and Rasmus,

Give our football club back!

[Lee On Solent Saint]

3 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

RM right about the long balls btw, whether you like it or not. It happened Wednesday too. Cheering giving the ball away whether it’s short or long is strange. 

Anyway, new manager, new vibes, bring it on. 

Jesus Christ, give it a fuckin rest. 

[AlexLaw76]

28 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Proud of the players after a 5-1 home defeat, slags them off after an away 1-0 defeat.

The bloke is a completely insincere prick.  I look forward to the day when SR finally do their job properly and get rid of the twat.

I could not stand him last season. I detest him being our manager this season!

He is an arrogant twat.

[Football Special]

6 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

RM right about the long balls btw, whether you like it or not. It happened Wednesday too. Cheering giving the ball away whether it’s short or long is strange. 

Anyway, new manager, new vibes, bring it on. 

Don't be a prick, if he goes long and we "give the ball away" they still have to go through our entire team to score. Go short and give the ball away they get a tap in and score,"going long" doesn't cause the goal, it's the shit defending when the other team next attack. 

[TheAlehouseBrawlers]

6 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

RM right about the long balls btw, whether you like it or not. It happened Wednesday too. Cheering giving the ball away whether it’s short or long is strange. 

Anyway, new manager, new vibes, bring it on. 

Tedious PR*

*insert your last 3 letters of choice

However, I may be reading a bit too much into this but considering the possibility that he may have gone with that last sentence. Fingers crossed.

 

[Football Special]

Sums it up 

https://x.com/Mahmoud_SFC/status/1865457742447534285?t=C4QN2ka64Ffi1UcSwMGjMA&s=19

[Midfield_General]

22 minutes ago, coalman said:

Yes, Russ, it's bad luck. It's unbelievable that a team that creates so many clear cut opportunities for their opponents and can't make the opposition keeper make a save keeps failing to get points. I just hope TayTay is ok after he limply folded to let in their centre forward.

There is one more thing you could try. Fucking off.

Not going to try changing anything then? Just keep doing the same thing, and trust it'll come good. 

Cool. 

Edited 7 December, 2024 by Midfield_General

[LGTL]

9 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

RM right about the long balls btw, whether you like it or not. It happened Wednesday too. Cheering giving the ball away whether it’s short or long is strange. 

Anyway, new manager, new vibes, bring it on. 

Oh fuck off you absolute throbber and go write an article for the OS. 

[Fabrice29]

3 minutes ago, LGTL said:

Oh fuck off you absolute throbber and go write an article for the OS. 

 

10 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Jesus Christ, give it a fuckin rest. 

You guys get angry way too easily. That’s a problem. 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

3 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

 

You guys get angry way too easily. That’s a problem. 

Not really, I care about my club. 

[Fabrice29]

1 minute ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Not really, I care about my club. 

Aww, well done you. Getting angry on a message board on the internet is definitely the best way to show that. 

[bangkoksaint]

Another £150, and a day wasted driving on awful roads to watch Saints. Don’t get me wrong I can take losing, god knows I’ve had nearly 5 decades of it. What I do find difficult to stomach is to come away from another game having not had a shot on target or laid a glove on them. 

[LGTL]

9 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

 

You guys get angry way too easily. That’s a problem. 

Couldn’t give a fuck what a club employee thinks 👍

[Lee On Solent Saint]

1 minute ago, Fabrice29 said:

Aww, well done you. Getting angry on a message board on the internet is definitely the best way to show that. 

Who said anything about getting angry? You made that assumption. I think like a lot of fans, am past being angry. 

[Saint NL]

Surely this is the beginning of the end of Russell Martin. Him turning on the fans means he's got one foot out the door.

[SWLondon Saint]

39 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

RM right about the long balls btw, whether you like it or not. It happened Wednesday too. Cheering giving the ball away whether it’s short or long is strange. 

Anyway, new manager, new vibes, bring it on. 

If you're going to argue that us kicking the ball long is bad because it cedes possession, then how come them doing exactly the same thing straight back is good? 

Literally nothing to do with giving the ball away and everything to do with competent defending.

[Oldandtired]

34 minutes ago, Football Special said:

Don't be a prick, if he goes long and we "give the ball away" they still have to go through our entire team to score. Go short and give the ball away they get a tap in and score,"going long" doesn't cause the goal, it's the shit defending when the other team next attack. 

Impossible for him, I sometimes think he's our managers alter ego.

[Give it to Ron]

44 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

RM right about the long balls btw, whether you like it or not. It happened Wednesday too. Cheering giving the ball away whether it’s short or long is strange. 

Anyway, new manager, new vibes, bring it on. 

How did the short passing work out against Chelsea?

Have another look at goal Manning/THB and Lumley all could have done better but guess they were listening to fans rather than the manager too?

[saintant]

25 minutes ago, bangkoksaint said:

Another £150, and a day wasted driving on awful roads to watch Saints. Don’t get me wrong I can take losing, god knows I’ve had nearly 5 decades of it. What I do find difficult to stomach is to come away from another game having not had a shot on target or laid a glove on them. 

Clearly you watched a different game to Russell judging by his after-match comments.

[Football Special]

53 minutes ago, Galway saint said:

I don’t know how much say RM had in the summer transfers but the attack we had today was very poor and when you combine that with ponderous build up we aren’t going to be scoring many. 

I can’t see any half decent manager taking the job as the club is clearly dysfunctional at the moment and relegation nailed on.

I can’t think of another season like this in 40 years of supporting the club. Yes we have had difficult seasons but we are so uncompetitive this season it’s untrue. 

 

Context - we were missing big money strikers Loch Ness Drogba and Tall Paul so hardly surprising we look blunt up top 

[Forester]

Just back from the game after a wild and wet day.  I thought we played well first 20 mins and looked creative, but as soon as their goal went in our lack of confidence showed.  We never tested Martinez once, which is criminal, and in truth a much changed Villa never got out of third gear.  Best players today in my view were KWP and Wood, with Aribo playing well after coming off the bench.  Not too much else to shout about.

Given we have now allowed Martin to manage nine more league games since the Bournemouth disaster, which is when I felt he should have gone, for the paltry return of an additional four points, I assume we have just given up and will stick with for the rest of the season to avoid paying compensation.  It would be helpful if the Board had the balls to just say this, that in effect results are irrelevant and it’s all one big development opportunity.

[Football Special]

1 minute ago, Forester said:

Just back from the game after a wild and wet day.  I thought we played well first 20 mins and looked creative, but as soon as their goal went in our lack of confidence showed.  We never tested Martinez once, which is criminal, and in truth a much changed Villa never got out of third gear.  Best players today in my view were KWP and Wood, with Aribo playing well after coming off the bench.  Not too much else to shout about.

Given we have now allowed Martin to manage nine more league games since the Bournemouth disaster, which is when I felt he should have gone, for the paltry return of an additional four points, I assume we have just given up and will stick with for the rest of the season to avoid paying compensation.  It would be helpful if the Board had the balls to just say this, that in effect results are irrelevant and it’s all one big development opportunity.

Agreed, If they didn't sack him after Bournemouth or at the very least should have gone after Leicester at home they must be resigned to us going down already and have written off the season 

[Football Special]

2 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

I think I'm done. Following your football team is supposed to be fun, but SR and Russ have sucked every last bit of joy out of watching Saints, and I'm just numb to it now. I don't think I can stomach watching another weak, insipid performance like today's again. We're so toothless, I've seen newborn babies with more bite.

Thanks Russ, thanks Rasmus. You've made me fall out of love with the team I've followed for 35 years.

I know what you're saying but I've always been a "through thick and thin" fan, manager and board have fucked it up but I still see enough players out there giving it their all who deserve support of the fans 

[Zorba]

1 hour ago, S-Clarke said:

There is nothing to really analyse, it's just the same old.  I'm just bored shitless with it all. How we are so slow with the ball, how we are technically awful in the final third, and how we continuously tie ourselves in knots at the back.

It feels like we're taking a season off, as we're now just playing non-competitive friendlies up until May. Sounds fun.

This was blindingly obvious today. It was like watching over-50’s walking football whenever we had the ball. It’s mind-blowing! No urgency to get forward and we still looked more knackered than them towards the end of the game.

We are so far off any other team in this league tactically, technically and physically.. It’s just a good job we’re so brave.. or who knows where we’d be?!

[Football Special]

4 minutes ago, Zorba said:

This was blindingly obvious today. It was like watching over-50’s walking football whenever we had the ball. It’s mind-blowing! No urgency to get forward and we still looked more knackered than them towards the end of the game.

We are so far off any other team in this league tactically, technically and physically.. It’s just a good job we’re so brave.. or who knows where we’d be?!

At times we briefly looked good and moved forward with some purpose, then wasted on a dreadful ball into the box, or cut back instead of taking on a shot. 

[JCBSaint]

So no shots , go backwards rather than trying anything penetrating,, aaahhh all getting a bit boring now . So keep this set up till 5 games to go then change it, when we will be just the 30 points from safety… 

am going to spurs game purely cos a few pints and a sausage at the German market but then that’s it for the season … 

 

see you all in the championship 

[Dragon_man]

The only thing I got out of this game was pneumonia. 

[macca155]

It's all very well Russ getting spikey with the fans, but the cold hard truth is that Emery, Nuno, and Maresca completely owned RM on the pitch with their tactics, preparation, and in game strategy.

I didn't think Villa even had to try hard today, their style of play completely nulified any chance we had. Frankly bringing Watkins on at the end was just cruel.

Edited 7 December, 2024 by macca155

[SW11_Saint]

1 hour ago, Football Special said:

Is there a video of him saying this? Would like to see it 

It’s here… https://x.com/solentsport/status/1865469243992543651?s=46

[SW11_Saint]

40 minutes ago, Football Special said:

Agreed, If they didn't sack him after Bournemouth or at the very least should have gone after Leicester at home they must be resigned to us going down already and have written off the season 

They are, and they have. And also can’t afford to pay him and his staff off. Not that anyone would trust them to appoint anyone better anyway…

[Baird of the land]

4 minutes ago, SW11_Saint said:

It’s here… https://x.com/solentsport/status/1865469243992543651?s=46

Guy is completely delusional

[BarberSaint]

1 hour ago, S-Clarke said:

I could accept some bemoaning of luck if we were on 11 points or something like that, at least in the conversation.

But we've got 5 points. 1 win. and what feels like 700 defeats with plenty of goals let in for good measure. That's not about luck, it's about being fundamentally shit.

 

Luck does play a part; we beat Everton.

[OttawaSaint]

1 hour ago, coalman said:

Yes, Russ, it's bad luck. It's unbelievable that a team that creates so many clear cut opportunities for their opponents and can't make the opposition keeper make a save keeps failing to get points. I just hope TayTay is ok after he limply folded to let in their centre forward.

There is one more thing you could try. Fucking off.

Is that a real quote? If so I'm stunned. That's clinical levels of dillusion. Wow!

[coalman]

14 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said:

Is that a real quote? If so I'm stunned. That's clinical levels of dillusion. Wow!

That's from the official site.

[saintant]

29 minutes ago, macca155 said:

It's all very well Russ getting spikey with the fans, but the cold hard truth is that Emery, Nuno, and Maresca completely owned RM on the pitch with their tactics, preparation, and in game strategy.

I didn't think Villa even had to try hard today, their style of play completely nulified any chance we had. Frankly bringing Watkins on at the end was just cruel.

I think most of us on here could own Russell in a match - it doesn't require much footballing nous - just set the press as we try to play out from the back and wait for the inevitable howlers, rinse and repeat. It's the easiest opposition team talk in football when RM is in charge as is being proved week after week.

[OttawaSaint]

4 minutes ago, coalman said:

That's from the official site.

Wow. He's on another planet. 

[Miltonaggro]

Think that’s it with the inept performance and inane comments today. He’s in for some stick next match. Feels like most of the fanbase can see how ridiculous the situation is. Fan patience runs out and so will he temper followed by employment. Fuck all to lose have we. 

[Whitey Grandad]

2 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

RM right about the long balls btw, whether you like it or not. It happened Wednesday too. Cheering giving the ball away whether it’s short or long is strange. 

Anyway, new manager, new vibes, bring it on. 

A longer ball is fine if you kick it to your own players.

[Saint Pete]

5 points from 15 games. How long can this go on, really?

[Whitey Grandad]

2 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

 

You guys get angry way too easily. That’s a problem. 

Have you ever considered what makes them angry?

[influx]

2 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

Aww, well done you. Getting angry on a message board on the internet is definitely the best way to show that. 

You’re just a contrarian attention seeking troll.   The end.  

[WGC Saint]

So in 90mins of football we didn’t have a single shot on target? Fuck me in local Sunday League shit you’d get at least one! Unforgivable. Get the fuck out of of our club Russell now!

Edited 7 December, 2024 by WGC Saint

[Stripey McStripe Shirt]

2 minutes ago, WGC Saint said:

So in 90mins of football we didn’t have a single shot on target? Fuck me in local Sunday League shit you’d get at least two one! Unforgivable. He the fuck out of of our club Russell now!

On target? I'd have been happy with an off target shot, but didn't have any of them either...

[Colinjb]

5 minutes ago, WGC Saint said:

So in 90mins of football we didn’t have a single shot on target? Fuck me in local Sunday League shit you’d get at least one! Unforgivable. Get the fuck out of of our club Russell now!

52.8% possession though. Come on! How good are we!?