Villa 1-0 Saints - Match Thread

[Badger]

10 hours ago, coalman said:

This could well be a fixture where we don't get any points.

Bearded excuse monkey, Russell Martin, will be hoping the referee is involved at some point so he can soulfully bemoan the injustice of it all in his post match interview in-between heartfelt sighs. Before repeating his mantra that it's all part of the long term plan and he's proud of everyone.

 

A new one every day...

 

[Harry_SFC]

3 hours ago, goodymatt said:

Bednarek is ‘touch and go’.
Onuachu is ‘unlikely’.

But Onuachu just had a bit of fatigue?? RM just bullshits his way through life doesn't he. 

[Zorba]

7 hours ago, notnowcato said:

I bloody love our style of football, I fucking hate the calamitous ball retention in our defensive third. 

That is our syle of football!

Edit: Reading threads backwards.. It’s already been said.

Great minds.. and all that!

Edited 6 December, 2024 by Zorba

[SaintTex]

line up predictions anyone?

 

Lumley

Sugawara, Walker-Peters, Harwood-Bellis...

 

aw, whatever.. screw it.

[Football Special]

1 hour ago, franniesTache said:

Seriously what's the fucking point?

 

We all know what's going to happen, we'll piss about with it at the back, Villa will score, our heads will drop, they'll score a couple more, in the post match interviews their manager will patronise Martin and Martin will say we're brave, we're learning, he saw a lot he liked and completely fucking ignore the fact he's the worst top flight manager in our history, worse than even Steve fucking Wigley.

 

Team for the game - I couldn't give a fuck whilst the useless lego headed cunt is still in charge. We could have prime Maradona, Cruyff and Beckenbauer in the side and he'd still train them to pass it sideways and backwards.

Trust the process ffs. 

[Lighthouse]

1 hour ago, Sheaf Saint said:

So what are you saying? That because RM has turned out to be just as shit (or worse) as a PL manager than his predecessor, we should just accept that? 

No, I'm saying that Jones was a very obvious downgrade on what came before. Martin doesn't have a predecessor who was achieveing roughly a point per game wih this squad. I'm not saying nobody could possibly do better than Martin, I'm saying that there isn't a very clear example of him being worse, like there was with Jones.

1 hour ago, Whitey Grandad said:

If you give him credit for last season then you gave to give him the blame for this.

I give him some of the credit for last season and some of the blame for this.

[Saint In Cornwall]

Cross Country Trains have issued a "Do Not Travel" warning for tomorrow.

Not good for fans travelling by train

[LGTL]

Tomorrow has all the hallmarks of being an absolute classic. Red weather warning, heavy rain, 80mph winds, trains fucked up, and last but by no means least, Russ enjoying yet another absolute pasting. 

[Challenger]

A little crumb of comfort everyone, this could be the game where things finally click as predicted by a couple of punters on here.

[coalman]

"But we're doing things that are working if you watch the game back - actually watch it, not just as a fan, but football-wise and tactically in terms of what we should be doing - the results shouldn't have looked how they did, bar a few."

There you have it - we've been doing it wrong. Tomorrow I suggest we all watch the match, not as football fans, but tactically. Then we'll understand that tomorrow's result shouldn't look like it almost certainly will. Congratulations to Martin for instilling his excuse mentality on an international defender.

[BTW Saint]

35 minutes ago, LGTL said:

Tomorrow has all the hallmarks of being an absolute classic. Red weather warning, heavy rain, 80mph winds, trains fucked up, and last but by no means least, Russ enjoying yet another absolute pasting. 

Add to your list of issues, M42 closed all weekend Junctions 6-7!
 

[Turkish]

another huge opportunity to learn and grow. We will have some great moments. So proud of our players for believing in what we are doing, so much love and respect for them. So proud of Russell for sticking with it despite what you clueless lot say. Believe in what we are doing. Brighton are copying us, Pep is learning from us, We are getting plaudits from so many managers it's starting to click. Remember at Swansea how Martins team were poor before christmas but then clicked to narrowly miss out on the play offs. I think we'll see the same here and narrowly miss out on the champions league. The revolution has started.

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, Saint In Cornwall said:

Cross Country Trains have issued a "Do Not Travel" warning for tomorrow.

Not good for fans travelling by train

I’m just over an hour from Villa Park and it’s very windy here now. Game probably on as predicted to lower slightly by circa 11am but the trains that the fans need run from your neck of the woods and Wales which is equally impacted. Best case scenario is running and speed restrictions. So possibly no pub before. Returning might be a bit better. 

[Zorba]

9 minutes ago, coalman said:

"But we're doing things that are working if you watch the game back - actually watch it, not just as a fan, but football-wise and tactically in terms of what we should be doing - the results shouldn't have looked how they did, bar a few."

There you have it - we've been doing it wrong. Tomorrow I suggest we all watch the match, not as football fans, but tactically. Then we'll understand that tomorrow's result shouldn't look like it almost certainly will. Congratulations to Martin for instilling his excuse mentality on an international defender.

We’re all such fucking idiots! What’s wrong with us? We haven’t got a clue!
Gaslighting prick. Make my football team win some games you useless wanker or fuck off!

[bangkoksaint]

3 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

I’m just over an hour from Villa Park and it’s very windy here now. Game probably on as predicted to lower slightly by circa 11am but the trains that the fans need run from your neck of the woods and Wales which is equally impacted. Best case scenario is running and speed restrictions. So possibly no pub before. Returning might be a bit better. 

Assuming you’re coming from Gloucester? With the Motorway closed I expect you may face delays 

[Pamplemousse]

2 minutes ago, Zorba said:

We’re all such fucking idiots! What’s wrong with us? We haven’t got a clue!
Gaslighting prick. Make my football team win some games you useless wanker or fuck off!

I'll happily trust the opinion of an England centre back, he knows far more about the game than any of us.

[Saint NL]

At least for half the match, we'll have the wind at our backs and it'll slow down the Villa attacks. 

Just a shame about the other half...

[Zorba]

9 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

I'll happily trust the opinion of an England centre back, he knows far more about the game than any of us.

To be fair, I thought that was another condescending RM quote. Sorry THB, I understand you have to side with your boss whether you believe it or not.. My outburst stands at RM though, he is still a useless wanker.

Edited 6 December, 2024 by Zorba

[Gloucester Saint]

7 minutes ago, bangkoksaint said:

Assuming you’re coming from Gloucester? With the Motorway closed I expect you may face delays 

Looking grim in all directions, M5 not an option. Probably local roads and local station nearer Brum eg Redditch or Longbridge.

[Sunglasses Ron]

Apparently Aston Villa have put in a late appeal over Jack Stephens’ red card. Let’s hope it fails.

[bpsaint]

4 hours ago, goodymatt said:

Not sure a current champions league team hammering bottom of the league at home would be a surprise?

More in the sense we expect to get hammered by the “top 6”, no one really expects to lose by 5 or 6 goals against Villa.

[Gloucester Saint]

11 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

More in the sense we expect to get hammered by the “top 6”, no one really expects to lose by 5 or 6 goals against Villa.

That could be later as the forecast is looking bad - if the clubs and WMP reckon there’s danger from flying debris and the local and national rail isn’t running - the trams are unlikely to be I think - it may well be off https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2655603

[SaintsBarry74]

Why can't RM take a more pragmatic approach? Why is he stuck in this suicidal one lane system that is killing us week after week.

The few times I've seen us divert from the tactic we've looked significantly more competitive, why can't this idiot see this?

[Wade Garrett]

3 hours ago, Harry_SFC said:

But Onuachu just had a bit of fatigue?? RM just bullshits his way through life doesn't he. 

Onuachu did his cameo against Liverpool to get his move in January.

I reckon we’ll be lucky to see him in a Saints shirt again.

[Harry_SFC]

4 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Onuachu did his cameo against Liverpool to get his move in January.

I reckon we’ll be lucky to see him in a Saints shirt again.

Got no problem with that. The guy has been treated badly by RM and I'm not surprised if he wants out. 

[Football Special]

14 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Onuachu did his cameo against Liverpool to get his move in January.

I reckon we’ll be lucky to see him in a Saints shirt again.

He was clearly injured and had to come off so still not fit from that 

[Charlie Wayman]

52 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

That could be later as the forecast is looking bad - if the clubs and WMP reckon there’s danger from flying debris and the local and national rail isn’t running - the trams are unlikely to be I think - it may well be off https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2655603

IMHO the game will be off, far too risky. Suppose the storm is as bad as the Beeb predicts and the roof came off a grandstand……..

No lawyer on the planet would allow clubs to take the chance.

Of course it could all be a storm in a teacup but this country is far too risk averse to respond to that.

Edited 6 December, 2024 by Charlie Wayman

[Charlie Wayman]

20 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

Got no problem with that. The guy has been treated badly by RM and I'm not surprised if he wants out. 

With the exception of very few, pretty much all of our players have been treated shoddily by Martin & Co

[Charlie Wayman]

1 hour ago, Sunglasses Ron said:

Apparently Aston Villa have put in a late appeal over Jack Stephens’ red card. Let’s hope it fails.

On the grounds of insanity and diminished responsibility?

[Gloucester Saint]

3 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said:

IMHO the game will be off, far too risky. Suppose the storm is as bad as the Beeb predicts and the roof came off a grandstand……..

No lawyer on the planet would allow clubs to take the chance.

Of course it could all be a storm in a teacup but this country is far too risk averse to respond to that.

Cardiff/Newport/Plymouth games all off and a lot of the Xmas markets such as Bath cancelled. Very unlikely but will get up early and see if the storm blows through earlier than forecast. Not holding out much hope though.

[Lighthouse]

2 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said:

IMHO the game will be off, far too risky. Suppose the storm is as bad as the Beeb predicts and the roof came off a grandstand……..

No lawyer on the planet would allow clubs to take the chance.

Of course it could all be a storm in a teacup but this country is far too risk averse to respond to that.

I doubt the integrity of the stadiums is in question (apart from Fratton, obviously) it’s more the danger of tens of thousands of people traveling to and from the stadium and the risk of falling trees, debris, traffic accidents etc. not to mention the likely disruption to the rail network.

The Beeb aren’t predicting anything, they’re just passing on info from the met office, who’re saying it could get quite lively. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a lot of games off.

[Challenger]

2 hours ago, Saint In Cornwall said:

Cross Country Trains have issued a "Do Not Travel" warning for tomorrow.

Not good for fans travelling by train

It doesn't take a lot to fuck up a train, or a football club for that matter.

[EssEffCee]

2 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Looking grim in all directions, M5 not an option. Probably local roads and local station nearer Brum eg Redditch or Longbridge.

Why not the M5 out of interest, just because of all the extra traffic on it due to the M42 closure?

I was thinking of going up that way and joining the M5 near Gloucester but this has made me reconsider.

[Dragon_man]

1 hour ago, Charlie Wayman said:

IMHO the game will be off, far too risky. Suppose the storm is as bad as the Beeb predicts and the roof came off a grandstand……..

No lawyer on the planet would allow clubs to take the chance.

Of course it could all be a storm in a teacup but this country is far too risk averse to respond to that.

Hopefully. We could have a new manager and some new players for a re-arranged fixture.

[Weston Super Saint]

3 hours ago, Saint In Cornwall said:

Cross Country Trains have issued a "Do Not Travel" warning for tomorrow.

Not good for fans travelling by train

But not because of the weather.

[Gloucester Saint]

16 minutes ago, EssEffCee said:

Why not the M5 out of interest, just because of all the extra traffic on it due to the M42 closure?

I was thinking of going up that way and joining the M5 near Gloucester but this has made me reconsider.

M5 still open as it stands, from where I am I know the A and B roads better, hopefully no incidents on the Worcestershire phase. It’s been terrible recently for incidents and closures hence my caution but it is probably your best bet from Hants. One option if the M5 remains alright is to see if you can park at one of the cross-city line stations for Aston (15 mins walk, nearest is Witton) - Redditch in N Worcs might be one option. Longbridge is another. If you don’t want to drive as far, try Bromsgrove, modern station and cheap fares. 

Edited 6 December, 2024 by Gloucester Saint

[BTW Saint]

1 minute ago, Gloucester Saint said:

M5 still open as it stands, from where I am I know the A and B roads better, hopefully no incidents on the Worcestershire phase. It’s been terrible recently. One option if the M5 remains alright is to see if you can park at one of the cross-city line stations - Redditch in N Worcs might be one option. Longbridge is another. If you don’t want to drive as far, try Bromsgrove, modern station and cheap fares. 

On X, from highways agency showing M42 works closure cancelled due to weather. 

[EssEffCee]

2 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

M5 still open as it stands, from where I am I know the A and B roads better, hopefully no incidents on the Worcestershire phase. It’s been terrible recently. One option if the M5 remains alright is to see if you can park at one of the cross-city line stations - Redditch in N Worcs might be one option. Longbridge is another. If you don’t want to drive as far, try Bromsgrove, modern station and cheap fares. 

Cheers I'll give it some thought. Ideally don't want to rely on trains but might be the best option for this. Will stop at services somewhere along the way and make my decision then.

[Gloucester Saint]

Just now, BTW Saint said:

On X, from highways agency showing M42 works closure cancelled due to weather. 

That does help. Gloucester Quays Xmas market might be off as well which would ease pressure around there.

[EssEffCee]

1 minute ago, BTW Saint said:

On X, from highways agency showing M42 works closure cancelled due to weather. 

Great news!

[Saint In Cornwall]

45 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

But not because of the weather.

 

that says you are wrong…….

 

[Gloucester Saint]

Cross Country don’t need much reason to cancel services. Although tbf, their staff being pulled out of position around their much larger network would damage them for days. 

[Dark Munster]

3 hours ago, SaintsBarry74 said:

Why can't RM take a more pragmatic approach? Why is he stuck in this suicidal one lane system that is killing us week after week.

The few times I've seen us divert from the tactic we've looked significantly more competitive, why can't this idiot see this?

I think it's because he's an idiot.

[bpsaint]

I know it’s bad down here but looks like conditions are going to be even worse up Birmingham way tomorrow, fully expect most games to be postponed although surprised they’ve not done so already. The games featuring the big 6 will probably go ahead still, foreign audiences and all that.

[notnowcato]

8 hours ago, Zorba said:

That is our syle of football!

Edit: Reading threads backwards.. It’s already been said.

Great minds.. and all that!

Great minds 😂

[East Kent Saint]

5 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

I doubt the integrity of the stadiums is in question (apart from Fratton, obviously) it’s more the danger of tens of thousands of people traveling to and from the stadium and the risk of falling trees, debris, traffic accidents etc. not to mention the likely disruption to the rail network.

The Beeb aren’t predicting anything, they’re just passing on info from the met office, who’re saying it could get quite lively. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a lot of games off.

Beeb ditched the Met office to save money , Oh Met office still issues warnings so wrong again 😄

Edited 7 December, 2024 by East Kent Saint

[Convict Colony]

Fuck it 2-0 to us, first away win of the season

[Weston Super Saint]

8 hours ago, Saint In Cornwall said:

 

that says you are wrong…….

 

It was a toungue in cheek comment  

[Soton7]

What’s the chances the games going ahead fellas? Planning to leave at 09:00 and don’t want a wasted trip up north!

[Weston Super Saint]

3 minutes ago, Soton7 said:

What’s the chances the games going ahead fellas? Planning to leave at 09:00 and don’t want a wasted trip up north!

There's only a yellow warning for the Midlands - pretty much the same as our game last week.  Wouldn't expect it to be called off unless there is anything major that happens on the road or train networks.