Saints 1-5 Chelsea - Match Thread

[Saint_clark]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:36, beatlesaint said:

How many games does our brave and wonderful human being of a captain miss with this red? Two or three? I mean I’d take the next 24 but guess that won’t happen

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Isn't it his second straight red? So it'll be 4 now?

[SNSUN]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:35, Stripey McStripe Shirt said:

That Palmer goal was definitely a foul on Manning and clearly a turning point in the game. Another 3 points lost due to referee incompetence. An obvious agenda against Saints.

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Hi Russ! 😝

[SambaMaverick]

Absolutely no point sacking RM now. Hope we keep him in and make him radioactive to the top two tiers, Jones style.

Hopefully every other club can see the cautionary tales of playing possession-based footy. It's shit and it needs to die a death.

[Patches O Houlihan]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:29, Gloucester Saint said:

Is it really? Feel sorry for Aribo, Archer, Fernandes, Wood, Manning - put in a proper shift and done their jobs.

But when Captain Crap walks off the job yet again, what does that say about the culture? Yet another keeper concedes two shockers with his feet. They can’t all be deaf. The clown is telling them to do it - and would rather break Derby’s low points record so he can stick to his ‘principles’.

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So to confirm: you care, I care, Aribo, Archer, Fernandes, Wood and Manning all care - hence you were speaking bollocks

[Gloucester Saint]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:36, beatlesaint said:

How many games does our brave and wonderful human being of a captain miss with this red? Two or three? I mean I’d take the next 24 but guess that won’t happen

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5 I think after the Man U incident.

[Sheaf Saint]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:36, beatlesaint said:

How many games does our brave and wonderful human being of a captain miss with this red? Two or three? I mean I’d take the next 24 but guess that won’t happen

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I think it's 4 because it's his second red of the season. But I could be wrong.

[Winnersaint]

Sadly 26/05/24 was when this became inevitable.

[Toussaint]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:35, LGTL said:

We’re an embarrassment to the division and don’t deserve to be in there. Martin is the worst PL  Just as some of us predicted after about 2 games. 

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To be fair some of us predicted this would happen if we won promotion 

[ChristopheVAFC]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:25, Convict Colony said:

À ce stade, regarder le football n'est pas un divertissement, c'est lire ce fil.

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In the same vein...

[Convict Colony]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:35, LGTL said:

We’re an embarrassment to the division and don’t deserve to be in there. Martin is the worst PL manager of all time and we will get relegated with a record low total. Just as some of us predicted after about 2 games. 

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I'm gonna need to see these reciepts where you predicted he would be the worst premier league manager of all time after two 1-0 defeats

[Saint NL]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:37, Sheaf Saint said:

I think it's 4 because it's his second red of the season. But I could be wrong.

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Hopefully he calls the ref a c#nt again after the game and gets a few more games added on

[LGTL]

Stephens should never play for us again BTW. A fucking disgrace of a ‘captain’.

Seeing as king Russ froze out Taylor for far less, I wonder if his little lover will get the same treatment?!

[Mixedkebab]

Jack is such a beautiful man, the lads will soon forgive him once he’s cracking out some bearded banter with the boys.

Rasmus and Russ will organise a meditation and yoga retreat, with added exotic beard and hair oils in the package for the guys to try out 

[Lighthouse]

I feared the worst when I saw the players available after the Brighton game, especially against a team as good as Chelsea. It’s a shame because we actually looked like we were playing some good stuff going forward and causing problems at the back. Unfortunately the team was just too make shift and when Stephens does something that astonishingly brainless after half an hour, the writing is on the wall. A handful of players acquitted themselves fairly well, I was pleasantly surprised by Wood, Aribo put a decent shift in and KWP had one of his better games this season.

[Saint_clark]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:38, Convict Colony said:

I'm gonna need to see these reciepts where you predicted he would be the worst premier league manager of all time after two 1-0 defeats

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Some of us were predicting it last season 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:32, Convict Colony said:

It could be worse, on the brightside I've still go a few chicks on instagram who love ugly guys and apparently want to make me breakfast everyday and use every orifice they have so i will try and arrange a meet tomorrow.

 

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If they are using every orifice to make you breakfast, you might want to avoid that.

[Convict Colony]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:39, Saint_clark said:

Some of us were predicting it last season 

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Reciepts

[Gloucester Saint]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:37, Patches O Houlihan said:

So to confirm: you care, I care, Aribo, Archer, Fernandes, Wood and Manning all care - hence you were speaking bollocks

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The captain doesn’t - has already sat out 5 with his disgraceful behaviour v MU. Will miss more again. Left his team-mates in the mess and sulked off. Fuck him.

Manager insists on these crazy tactics - letting his players, employer and a city down. As S-Clarke says, a very good barometer of our fanbase, they’re being asked to play that stuff against ECL players like Cole Palmer. Unfair on them as well as us. SR need to hang their head in shame because the manager doesn’t give a shit about the club or results, all about the ‘project’.

That’s bollocks is it?

The club can’t stand any criticism however true.

Edited 4 December, 2024 by Gloucester Saint

[Convict Colony]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:40, Holmes_and_Watson said:

If they are using every orifice to make you breakfast, you might want to avoid that.

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Hopefully not but i assume you are speaking from experience :-)

[Saint_clark]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:40, Convict Colony said:

Reciepts

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If this site had a search function I'd be happy to provide them.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:37, Sheaf Saint said:

I think it's 4 because it's his second red of the season. But I could be wrong.

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Could be 10 if we all sign a petition?

[Lighthouse]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:38, Saint NL said:

Hopefully he calls the ref a c#nt again after the game and gets a few more games added on

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For our team captain, he doesn’t half behave like a giant man-baby sometimes.

[John Boy Saint]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:36, Saint_clark said:

Isn't it his second straight red? So it'll be 4 now?

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Not even smart enough to wait for the next game to get a Red and Christmas off.

[beatlesaint]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:37, Sheaf Saint said:

I think it's 4 because it's his second red of the season. But I could be wrong.

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That’ll do for starters, thanks 

[RedArmy]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:40, Convict Colony said:

Reciepts

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There will be plenty in the Russell Martin thread and match day threads last season. 
 

Anyone that watched us last season knew we’d get dicked this season trying to play the way we do. 

[Convict Colony]

Ok when do we get to arguing amongst ourselves, is it tomorrow or can we start early.

I dunno but Martin's idealistic interpretation of football survived in the championship but is getting ruthlessly exposed in the premier league, he's not going to change so the board has to make that change for him now.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:41, Convict Colony said:

Hopefully not but i assume you are speaking from experience 🙂

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Experience of basic health and safety enough for me to avoid that one. Not judging you though. 🙂

[S-Clarke]

I'm just bored shitliss with it all now, this isn't fun - hobbies/interests are supposed to be fun, this is a depression inducing shit fest - every week.

That should have been 10-0, let's not kid ourselves. Very, very, very lucky to walk away with just 5 against us.

I don't remember us ever being this uncompetitive at this level, we'd always have some moments/spells in a season where we give a good shot - but we're not even in the game in 90% of this season.

I feel sorry for players like Manning, Wood, Lumley etc - so, so technically limited...yet sold up the river by being told to play that way against international players. They barely got away with it at Championship level, so why we think we're reinviting football is beyond me. There's nothing brave about any of this, the only thing it is would be sheer stupidity. 

We've got 5 or whatever months of gloried friendlies whilst we prep for whatever shitshow SR put in place for the Championship next season, hard to get excited about anything.

[Gloucester Saint]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:42, Lighthouse said:

For our team captain, he doesn’t half behave like a giant man-baby sometimes.

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The second half of your sentence explains why we all know the first half was a folly in the first place.

But that’s what you get when the manager is 🤡 

[Convict Colony]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:41, Saint_clark said:

If this site had a search function I'd be happy to provide them.

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100% real here - i have been looking for the search function for my posts for fucking ages and either i am blind of my 5quid doesnt let me have it, can you screenshot its location amigo

[Baird of the land]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:37, SambaMaverick said:

Absolutely no point sacking RM now. Hope we keep him in and make him radioactive to the top two tiers, Jones style.

Hopefully every other club can see the cautionary tales of playing possession-based footy. It's shit and it needs to die a death.

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Worked real well for kompany, he was so radioactive he could only get the Bayern job.

[Farmer Saint]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:39, Lighthouse said:

I feared the worst when I saw the players available after the Brighton game, especially against a team as good as Chelsea. It’s a shame because we actually looked like we were playing some good stuff going forward and causing problems at the back. Unfortunately the team was just too make shift and when Stephens does something that astonishingly brainless after half an hour, the writing is on the wall. A handful of players acquitted themselves fairly well, I was pleasantly surprised by Wood, Aribo put a decent shift in and KWP had one of his better games this season.

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Agree with this. That defence wouldn't hold up in League 1, let alone the Championship, and then when you lose one of them to being a massive twat...

[austsaint]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:33, Saint_clark said:

Wood, Manning, KWP, Aribo, Archer, Fernandes all put in decent performances and were let down by the system. With a different manager we might have made a fight of this. Now it's too late.

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Your post sums things up nicely.  There are enough good footballers in this side to have significantly more points.   KWP, Archer, Fernandes and Airibo in particular all outstanding.   The Martin era at Saints should have ended weeks ago. Shame on you Rasmus and co.

[Sheaf Saint]

Kevin Davies speaking truth about the naivety of trying to go toe to toe with Chelsea.

EVERYONE can see the insanity of RM's philosophy. Except those in charge of the club. It's so fucking depressing.

[Saint_clark]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:44, Convict Colony said:

100% real here - i have been looking for the search function for my posts for fucking ages and either i am blind of my 5quid doesnt let me have it, can you screenshot its location amigo

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There literally isn't one mate. 

[pingpong]

Did we win? (Possession)

[saintant]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:42, John Boy Saint said:

Not even smart enough to wait for the next game to get a Red and Christmas off.

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If Russell picks him again before the end of the season he's bonkers - he should have Christmas and Easter off.

[Convict Colony]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:45, Baird of the land said:

Worked real well for kompany, he was so radioactive he could only get the Bayern job.

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Please please please, lets stop this Kompany fallacy, Bayern tried and considered 6 managers before finally appointing it, i would reference me outlining this but i cant find the search post fucntion

[Convict Colony]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:46, Saint_clark said:

There literally isn't one mate. 

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[Lee On Solent Saint]

Looking forward to the hard hitting questions Adam Blackmore will no doubt fire at Martin.

[LGTL]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:45, Farmer Saint said:

Agree with this. That defence wouldn't hold up in League 1, let alone the Championship, and then when you lose one of them to being a massive twat...

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And yet with our League 1 defence, which I fully agree with, Martin STILL wouldn’t swallow his pride and ultimately do something different. Considering the circumstances, that second goal is a sackable offence. The blokes a moron. 

[Sir Ralph]

  On 04/12/2024 at 20:29, Gloucester Saint said:

Have a look at the SR thread, it’s a bit more than remote….

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They won’t sack him

[Saint NL]

That was fun, can't wait to do it all again with you all on Saturday ♥️

[Baird of the land]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:47, Convict Colony said:

Please please please, lets stop this Kompany fallacy, Bayern tried and considered 6 managers before finally appointing it, i would reference me outlining this but i cant find the search post fucntion

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So there’s some law in Germany where if 6 managers turn you down you have to appoint a manager that’s been humiliatingly bad in the prem

[SWLondon Saint]

Guardian saying Chelsea thrashed us - to be honest, I disagree completely - they were crap and should feel ashamed they only scored 5! Any team with a bit of self belief should have been in double figures at least....

[tdmickey3]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:49, Baird of the land said:

So there’s some law in Germany where if 6 managers turn you down you have to appoint a manager that’s been humiliatingly bad in the prem

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Hopefully soon

[Convict Colony]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:49, Baird of the land said:

So there’s some law in Germany where if 6 managers turn you down you have to appoint a manager that’s been humiliatingly bad in the prem

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Talking of germany Ralph has Wolfsburg purring, won last 3 games and 8th at the moment not too far behind top 4

[S-Clarke]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:39, Lighthouse said:

I feared the worst when I saw the players available after the Brighton game, especially against a team as good as Chelsea. It’s a shame because we actually looked like we were playing some good stuff going forward and causing problems at the back. Unfortunately the team was just too make shift and when Stephens does something that astonishingly brainless after half an hour, the writing is on the wall. A handful of players acquitted themselves fairly well, I was pleasantly surprised by Wood, Aribo put a decent shift in and KWP had one of his better games this season.

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I find it hard to zero in on a single game at this stage, you have to look at the patterns - we do the same thing every single week. We gift up goals and chances every week.

It was even more foolish to do so tonight with the inferior players we had, but In a way I felt sorry for them as they were sold up the river.

I don't think it's ever going to sink into Martin's skull - but I'll say it, we cannot continue this utter insanity with the technical level of players we have. We barely got away with it at Championship level. I've had enough of it. It's not football, it's self inflicted suicide every week.

[Saint_clark]

If anyone can link to his post match interview either with prime or Solent that would be appreciated.

[Gloucester Saint]

  On 04/12/2024 at 21:48, Sir Ralph said:

They won’t sack him

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Maybe, maybe not. But I’m telling you that you don’t have all the club’s senior figures in one room not caring that they are being observed without something big going on.

Could be an SR restructure - but seems unlikely.