Brighton 1-1 Saints - Match Thread

[so22saint]

5 hours ago, CB Fry said:

When it happens yet again, I am very much looking forward to the Martinettes lecturing us that "it is simply an INDIVIDUAL MISTAKE it's nothing to do with the manager" yet again.

Russell Martin is just the unluckiest manager of all time with the most mistake ridden team that ever there was. He's so helpless I feel sorry for him. His world class gold standard tactics and selections destroyed match after match because of things that definitely aren't his fault.

The guy can't catch a break 😪 

He's been really unlucky with all the 60+ goals all his sides he's managed have shipped every season

[notnowcato]

12 minutes ago, Tom57 said:

My brother's driving us both there for this one and neither have been to the Amex before. Is it better to get the park and ride from one of the two places, or park in the city and get the train in? We'll be leaving Southampton about 4pm so I'd imagine we'll arrive in Brighton about 6:15pm to 6:45pm.

Park n Ride, use the Mill Hill one as it's close to the A27/23 junction.  Parking in the city costs a pretty penny, parking at the Park n Ride is free.  Leave as early as you can getting through Arundel and Worthing can be a bloody nightmare, especially on a Friday.

[notnowcato]

This should be a good game.  Albion are very unlikely to sit back and wait for an error.  Expect we'll be under a lot of pressure, much live Liverpool, but that does allow us to break on them.  Their squad is far superior to ours, we'll need them not to be at their best to have a sniff of leaving with any points.  

[notnowcato]

25 minutes ago, Tom57 said:

My brother's driving us both there for this one and neither have been to the Amex before. Is it better to get the park and ride from one of the two places, or park in the city and get the train in? We'll be leaving Southampton about 4pm so I'd imagine we'll arrive in Brighton about 6:15pm to 6:45pm.

Another option is to park for free in or to the west of Portslade and get the free train to Falmer.

[tdmickey3]

13 minutes ago, notnowcato said:

This should be a good game.  Albion are very unlikely to sit back and wait for an error.  Expect we'll be under a lot of pressure, much live Liverpool, but that does allow us to break on them.  Their manager is far superior to ours, we'll need them not to be at their best to have a sniff of leaving with any points.  

Fixed it for you

[danjosaint]

22 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Fixed it for you

 

37 minutes ago, notnowcato said:

This should be a good game.  Albion are very unlikely to sit back and wait for an error.  Expect we'll be under a lot of pressure, much live Liverpool, but that does allow us to break on them. ANY MANAGER is far superior to ours, we'll need them not to be at their best to have a sniff of leaving with any points.  

Fixed it x2

[notnowcato]

Hilarious guys, keep up the great work, I can't imagine this place without you.  Hugs and kisses.

[Sarnia Cherie]

On 25/11/2024 at 13:02, Sheaf Saint said:

Oh no, I didn't realise it was Friday night.

I'm going to a gig this Friday so won't be able to watch. The last time this scenario happened (same venue as well) was October 2019 😐

 

What was the score? Is it a good or bad omen with you going out to the same event? 🤞

[Sheaf Saint]

3 minutes ago, Sarnia Cherie said:

What was the score? Is it a good or bad omen with you going out to the same event? 🤞

Friday night game in October 2019. Do you really need reminding?

Clue: It was wet and we had a man sent off very early on.

[Jack]

1 hour ago, notnowcato said:

This should be a good game for Brighton and their fans 

My go at fixing it for you 

[Tom57]

1 hour ago, notnowcato said:

Another option is to park for free in or to the west of Portslade and get the free train to Falmer.

Thanks for the advice! We'll probably aim for the park and ride at Mill Road and then get the train if we're struggling with traffic and don't think we'll make it. Is the parking free at those train stations too then?

[tdmickey3]

1 hour ago, notnowcato said:

Hilarious guys, keep up the great work, I can't imagine this place without you.  Hugs and kisses.

Its not hilarious sweetheart, its true 

[trousers]

1 hour ago, notnowcato said:

Hilarious guys, keep up the great work, I can't imagine this place without you.  Hugs and kisses.

"Love and light", surely? #stickwiththescript

[notnowcato]

1 hour ago, trousers said:

"Love and light", surely? #stickwiththescript

A poor attempt at putting you off the scent- damn you trousers!

[notnowcato]

2 hours ago, Tom57 said:

Thanks for the advice! We'll probably aim for the park and ride at Mill Road and then get the train if we're struggling with traffic and don't think we'll make it. Is the parking free at those train stations too then?

North of the train line at Portslade should all be free, south of the line they have light touch permits and some paid options using PayByPhone app. Hove has a decent size car park, probably cost around a fiver, forget Brighton. Stations to the west of Portslade I believe will be free, possibly not Worthing. 

[andrew7610]

Don't forget that getting away from the Amex by train after the match is an absolute nightmare as that poxy little station can't cope with that many people - as others have said, Mill Road Park and Ride is your best bet.

Edited 26 November, 2024 by andrew7610

[notnowcato]

7 minutes ago, andrew7610 said:

Don't forget that getting away from the Amex by train after the match is an absolute nightmare as that poxy little station can't cope with that many people - as others have said, Mill Road Park and Ride is your best bet.

The bus can be a fucker as well if you miss the first tranche of buses. Take your time, have a post match beer whilst the others try and beat the rush. 

[andrew7610]

Of course the other option is to leave when we go 4-0 down, at about 52 minutes I reckon

[lambtiss]

1 hour ago, andrew7610 said:

Of course the other option is to leave when we go 4-0 down, at about 52 minutes I reckon

Perhaps one of the Group Administrators could set up a bingo type game where ball numbers are replaced by the minute of each ridiculous Saints defensive lapse

[BarberSaint]

I think this will be a comfortable and boring 2 or 3 nil to them. We might sneak a goal but I expect a lot more possession and fewer shots in this one.

[Football Special]

2 hours ago, andrew7610 said:

Don't forget that getting away from the Amex by train after the match is an absolute nightmare as that poxy little station can't cope with that many people - as others have said, Mill Road Park and Ride is your best bet.

That is true for those who stay until the end, assuming we're 3-0 down by 60th min would expect most of the away end to be long gone at full time 

[LGTL]

4 hours ago, andrew7610 said:

Don't forget that getting away from the Amex by train after the match is an absolute nightmare as that poxy little station can't cope with that many people - as others have said, Mill Road Park and Ride is your best bet.

As if any of us will still be in the ground by the end 😂

[SWLondon Saint]

On 25/11/2024 at 15:54, Midfield_General said:

Exactly how I feel now. Who gives a fuck, it's clearly completely pointless. We'll do the same things, make the same mistakes, lose again, and then I'll have to hear that smug, gaslighting twat wave it away after the game as though he's somehow not responsible for making us a complete laughing stock.

We're basically relegated already - which before the end of November is quite an achievement - so it's not about going down anymore, it's just about pride and at least having a go at looking like a credible Premier League football team capable of winning the odd match. But if no-one at the club cares enough to change anything about that situation and actually give us a chance of at least saving a bit of face, why should I care either. 

Yep, me too. I don't think I've ever stopped caring about a season in November before. We have no chance in the cups, we're relegated already... I was watching Sunday but I pretty much just shrugged when their 3rd went in. Completely expected it and the manager clearly doesn't give a shit about the club compared to his 'principles' so while I'll always be a saint, right now caring about the club too much would just give you blood pressure problems.

[TheAlehouseBrawlers]

Info for travellers from their OS

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And this was on the UI:

“The good thing is that your match ticket entitles you to free bus or train travel on matchdays to and from the game, from within the Brighton, Hove and Sussex region”

https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/news/63358/the-amex-stadium--a-visitors-guide

 

[OneMrsWallace]

Some form of horrible defeat. Is it me, or does it all just feel a bit weird. Like being in the football version of purgatory.

[Osvaldorama]

What’s the point?

We will concede early from a mistake. Then concede a couple more from a couple more mistakes after Martin has made a couple of trrrible substitutions

Then Martin will call us brave and say something like he’s really proud of the fight we showed to keep the score down to just 4-0, and how bravely we stuck to our principles. 
Oh and somehow it will be the fans fault, or individual mistakes and nothing to do with the system, no sir 

[Challenger]

2 hours ago, LGTL said:

As if any of us will still be in the ground by the end 😂

I bought a ticket specifically to boo RM at the end, looks like I'll be doing it on my own.

[Chewy]

I appreciate it’s all a bit irrelevant as a) we’ll bravely lose and b) no one can pick what the tombola will decide, but any thoughts on a team? 
I assume Ramsdale, Bednarek and Lallana are all out along with Smallbone. I also gather Ross Stewart is a couple of weeks away. Stephens will obviously be there to lead Ross’ charges, displaying bravery and ineffectiveness in equal measure.

I guess something like

McCarthy

KWP THB Stephens Manning

Aribo Downes Fernandes

Dibling Armstrong Fraser

some odd choices but I’m trying to second guess the weirdness. Could just as easily see Bree, Larios or Taylor randomly played. Who knows, maybe BBD? Been a while since we last saw quite how inexplicably immobile and sh1t he is.

Whatever happens, we’ll get two out of the following three: bravery, possession, points. Wonder which 2

[tdmickey3]

2 hours ago, Chewy said:

I appreciate it’s all a bit irrelevant as a) we’ll bravely lose and b) no one can pick what the tombola will decide, but any thoughts on a team? 
I assume Ramsdale, Bednarek and Lallana are all out along with Smallbone. I also gather Ross Stewart is a couple of weeks away. Stephens will obviously be there to lead Ross’ charges, displaying bravery and ineffectiveness in equal measure.

I guess something like

McCarthy

KWP THB Stephens Manning

Aribo Downes Fernandes

Dibling Armstrong Fraser

some odd choices but I’m trying to second guess the weirdness. Could just as easily see Bree, Larios or Taylor randomly played. Who knows, maybe BBD? Been a while since we last saw quite how inexplicably immobile and sh1t he is.

Whatever happens, we’ll get two out of the following three: bravery, possession, points. Wonder which 2

Wont be any points

[macca155]

3 hours ago, Chewy said:

......any thoughts on a team? 

I assume Ramsdale, Bednarek and Lallana are all out.

I guess something like

McCarthy

KWP THB Stephens Manning

Aribo Downes Fernandes

Dibling Armstrong Fraser

As likely as anything else we'll see.

Should be

McCarthy

KWP THB ABK Taylor

Aribo Downes Fernandes

Dibling Onuachu Armstrong

ABK may be rusty/injured so Stephens could continue. I've no issues with him

Aim to move the ball quicker, and cut out the crap at the back.

They are a better team, and more than likely will beat Saints. However if RM puts out the strongest team, and tells them to focus on avoiding the mistakes of the previous 3 months, then there is a chance.

Won't happen of course. Partly his ego and partly,probably instructions from above, to showcase the squad, as they need to sell them.

Edited 27 November, 2024 by macca155

[Wallington Saint]

Anyone with a spare ticket, I live in Brighton and would be happy to take it off your hands!

[so22saint]

19 hours ago, OneMrsWallace said:

Some form of horrible defeat. Is it me, or does it all just feel a bit weird. Like being in the football version of purgatory.

100% this, and turning around a team used to losing (I've done it as a leader in both sport and work repeatedly) is *very* hard, so I'd be amazed to see us bounce straight back up again next season.  Mid table after a shocking start at best.

It needs personnel and tactic shift to clear the air if we go down with a couple of wins and say 10 points

[Gloucester Saint]

21 hours ago, SWLondon Saint said:

Yep, me too. I don't think I've ever stopped caring about a season in November before. We have no chance in the cups, we're relegated already... I was watching Sunday but I pretty much just shrugged when their 3rd went in. Completely expected it and the manager clearly doesn't give a shit about the club compared to his 'principles' so while I'll always be a saint, right now caring about the club too much would just give you blood pressure problems.

Great post, exactly where I’m at. Not overly bothered by defeats or goals conceded. Sooner SR are gone the better.

[Football Special]

12 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Great post, exactly where I’m at. Not overly bothered by defeats or goals conceded. Sooner SR are gone the better.

I still get frustrated/ angry at the defeats, throwing away a lead in 2nd half again makes it hard to take, but putting time , effort and money in is starting to take its toll, think will give up away games for a bit in the new year just a waste of time now, would like to be at last game at Goodison that's about it. FA Cup 3rd round draw this weekend is always good. In a season as dreadful as this the cups at least provide some distraction 

[macca155]

16 minutes ago, Football Special said:

I still get frustrated/ angry at the defeats, throwing away a lead in 2nd half again makes it hard to take, but putting time , effort and money in is starting to take its toll, think will give up away games for a bit in the new year just a waste of time now, would like to be at last game at Goodison that's about it. FA Cup 3rd round draw this weekend is always good. In a season as dreadful as this the cups at least provide some distraction 

I suspect many of us are feeling the same. It is soul destroying to watch endless defeats, often unnecessary ones.

Last year was great, but we had two years of this garbage before then.

This is fast becoming worse than Branfoot.

[die Mannyschaft]

Draw at best. The Liverpool game highlighted the problem of passing back to a keeper who makes saves but not FC24 type skills fir outfield players. Is big Paul out, he held ball up well and dribbled passed a few players which we need. 

[Andy Hill]

The torture will continue -Brighton are a decent side (we are not).

[Football Special]

29 minutes ago, macca155 said:

I suspect many of us are feeling the same. It is soul destroying to watch endless defeats, often unnecessary ones.

Last year was great, but we had two years of this garbage before then.

This is fast becoming worse than Branfoot.

We've had plenty since Branfoot as well, don't want to start debate now but overall Branfoot at least saw some results for his methods keeping us up and getting to a cup final! 

I remember a couple of fans getting banned for throwing their season tickets at Pellegrino after a dismal home defeat, guess we can't do that now they're on an app 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Pamplemousse]

2 hours ago, so22saint said:

100% this, and turning around a team used to losing (I've done it as a leader in both sport and work repeatedly) is *very* hard, so I'd be amazed to see us bounce straight back up again next season.  Mid table after a shocking start at best.

It needs personnel and tactic shift to clear the air if we go down with a couple of wins and say 10 points

We literally turned it around last season...

[bangkoksaint]

18 hours ago, so22saint said:

100% this, and turning around a team used to losing (I've done it as a leader in both sport and work repeatedly) is *very* hard, so I'd be amazed to see us bounce straight back up again next season.  Mid table after a shocking start at best.

It needs personnel and tactic shift to clear the air if we go down with a couple of wins and say 10 points

Yes you could be right…….I’m sure Luton thought they could do likewise and look how that’s turning out.

Edited 28 November, 2024 by bangkoksaint
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[Andy Hill]

Luton look a very poor side now - but I suspect that they would still give us a good game.

[S-Clarke]

3 hours ago, so22saint said:

100% this, and turning around a team used to losing (I've done it as a leader in both sport and work repeatedly) is *very* hard, so I'd be amazed to see us bounce straight back up again next season.  Mid table after a shocking start at best.

It needs personnel and tactic shift to clear the air if we go down with a couple of wins and say 10 points

The Luton situation this season is a bit odd, they had by far the better PL season than either of Burnley or Sheffield United - but both Burnley and Sheffield United have recovered fairly well and are well in the auto race. Luton nowhere to be seen, but realistically they were fortunate to be promoted and it was one of those ''once in a lifetime'' things for their fans to experience - they were pretty poor quality/depth wise and I'm surprised players like Morris and Adebayo did as well as they did in the PL, as they are fairly bog-standard crap.

I'm sure the club will develop off the pitch on the back of their single season, but I doubt we'll see them anywhere near the PL again in our time. 

Edited 27 November, 2024 by S-Clarke

[so22saint]

3 hours ago, Pamplemousse said:

We literally turned it around last season...

with a new manager and some new players - which I mentioned. 

[ally_uk]

Might aswell just write this season off... 

Sell the crap and bed in the youth players for next season in the championship 🤣

[Saint in Paradise]

Brighton to win 4 - 1    🙄

[suewhistle]

14 hours ago, Football Special said:

I remember a couple of fans getting banned for throwing their season tickets at Pellegrino after a dismal home defeat, guess we can't do that now they're on an app 🤷🏻‍♂️

Throw the whole bloody phone..

[Dellyears]

11 hours ago, ally_uk said:

Might aswell just write this season off... 

Sell the crap and bed in the youth players for next season in the championship 🤣

Who is crap? The squad is good, some of it has class. Properly managed they would be more than ok, not crap

[Lighthouse]

4 hours ago, Dellyears said:

Who is crap? The squad is good, some of it has class. Properly managed they would be more than ok, not crap

The squad is not good. Five, maybe six players are good enough to play in his league. The rest are Championship players.

[danjosaint]

42 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

The squad is not good. Five, maybe six players are good enough to play in his league. The rest are Championship players.

Like Ipswich you mean and Luton that although probably will and went down put up some sort of fight 

[S-Clarke]

5 hours ago, Dellyears said:

Who is crap? The squad is good, some of it has class. Properly managed they would be more than ok, not crap

There are some good players for sure, but I will stand by the opinion that any decent PL team, serious about competing, should not be starting or including the likes of Manning/Stephens/McCarthy/Aribo/Smallbone/BBD/Armstrong/Fraser.

There are some shining lights in Fernandes and Dibling, but the rest just bring down the entire standard sadly and it's made it a bit of an up hill struggle, well more of an up-Everest style struggle. Insurmountable.