Should Dragan Šolak remove Rasmus Ankersen from the SFC board?

[Convict Colony]

Voted no then we would have Dragan, Kraft (finance guy) and Dyson guy as our experts.

We need plausible solutions, i think getting in a director of football would help massively as Rasmus is being spread too thin across all 3 clubs id guess.

I'd guess in Gozteppe they have a better opionion of their chairman than we do currently.

 

 

[Toussaint]

We wouldn’t be talking about any of this if we had a half decent manager who could at least make us competitive in our mini league in the bottom half of the table. 

[benjii]

By Rasmus' own ethos, his sacking is imperative.

If he is doing badly, he should be sacked.

If he is doing well, it needs to be broken and he should be sacked.

[franniesTache]

You are all so short sighted, if we remove Ramus then we lose the visionary approach to the club where football is the least important part of football. Everyone knows the true worth of Southampton Football Club is to use it as a mechanism for Ramus to flog his AI football database software to other clubs whether it works or not.

In the meantime he can prove his genius that will see us become a European Powerhouse (copyright @gio1saints) from league one, by allowing Martin to achieve his dream of wiping out unnecessary things like shooting completely from the game.

[Saint Fan CaM]

@gio1saints has this utopian woke view of the Saints footballing World - don’t worry it’ll all come good in the end…if we embrace failure, we can all eventually enjoy it. The perverse inverse of some new age pre-school ‘mumsy’ PE teacher telling the kids it’s the taking part that counts because they don’t want the kids to experience the upset of not winning.

The problem of course is RM’s journey of self discovery in failure didn’t start at Saints - he did a pretty poor job of implementing the ‘learning and improving through failure’ ethos at Swansea too. He’s had a good innings to get it right, but the higher his exposure in pro football the worse his mantra stands up. Of course his and the clubs position will improve to an extent when he finally relegates us back to the Championship (assuming we don’t lose our best players and manage to offload the dross in the squad too). Break it to fix it again. While the rest of the footballing World organically just gets better.

However for me all of that is somewhat of an irrelevance for the most part. I just don’t enjoy watching the boring style of football we play now and don’t get particularly excited in anticipation of Saints playing - it’s as simple as that.

Edited 18 November, 2024 by Saint Fan CaM
Further thoughts…

[trousers]

Any significance in this....?

[Dark Munster]

9 hours ago, Convict Colony said:

Voted no then we would have Dragan, Kraft (finance guy) and Dyson guy as our experts.

We need plausible solutions, i think getting in a director of football would help massively as Rasmus is being spread too thin across all 3 clubs id guess.

I'd guess in Gozteppe they have a better opionion of their chairman than we do currently.

 

 

If Dragan buys Rasmus a one way ticket to Turkey he could then bring someone in who actually knows something about football. 

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, trousers said:

Any significance in this....?

Pretty sure (I'm no expert) that means Dragan can convert any investment into shares. The only effect that would have is dilute Kat's percentage further...

[Turkish]

7 hours ago, benjii said:

By Rasmus' own ethos, his sacking is imperative.

If he is doing badly, he should be sacked.

If he is doing well, it needs to be broken and he should be sacked.

incorrect. He likes people who have failed. He is currently failing which means he's more likely to succeed in the future. He only breaks things that arent borken.

[Turkish]

4 hours ago, franniesTache said:

You are all so short sighted, if we remove Ramus then we lose the visionary approach to the club where football is the least important part of football. Everyone knows the true worth of Southampton Football Club is to use it as a mechanism for Ramus to flog his AI football database software to other clubs whether it works or not.

In the meantime he can prove his genius that will see us become a European Powerhouse (copyright @gio1saints) from league one, by allowing Martin to achieve his dream of wiping out unnecessary things like shooting completely from the game.

We are a data driven, trading company that just happens to play soccerball. We are the Netflix of the soccerball world. Netflix are a technology company that just happens to sell films. We are moving with the times and ahead of the pack. 25 years ago if someone had told you that Blockbusters would go bust and everyone would download films from remote controls on their TV screens you'd have been laughed. People will rent DVDs from shops forever they'd have told you.  in the future everyone will think how outdated it is to consider success in football to be winning matches over a 90 minute period. No one measures it that way anymore. We are making the new rules and sweeping in the change. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

5 minutes ago, Turkish said:

We are a data driven, trading company that just happens to play soccerball. We are the Netflix of the soccerball world. Netflix are a technology company that just happens to sell films. We are moving with the times and ahead of the pack. 25 years ago if someone had told you that Blockbusters would go bust and everyone would download films from remote controls on their TV screens you'd have been laughed. People will rent DVDs from shops forever they'd have told you.  in the future everyone will think how outdated it is to consider success in football to be winning matches over a 90 minute period. No one measures it that way anymore. We are making the new rules and sweeping in the change. 

I know evangelists can be a bit off putting, due to their full on approach. But it's hard not to get swept up in the excitement of posts like yours and others in recent days.

I'm just going to see what's on Netflix films now, to calm myself down a bit.

Coma: Remi Allen discovers that the Saints Physio department is a front for organ transplants. Perfectly decent players have brains replaced by simple mechanisms, in order to take over the world with The System. Further victims uncovered, having watched RussBall for 90 minutes, and lapsing into unconsciousness.

Colossus: The Ankerson Project: Data driven tactics AI connects to all football clubs, and then takes over the world. Will it's creator, Ankerson, be able to stop it enforcing possession based football? Does he really want to?

Dragan's Millions: In order to take over a MSL franchise, Dragan must first blow £300 million taking a PL club as far down as possible, in this wacky comedy.

[Turkish]

15 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

I know evangelists can be a bit off putting, due to their full on approach. But it's hard not to get swept up in the excitement of posts like yours and others in recent days.

I'm just going to see what's on Netflix films now, to calm myself down a bit.

Coma: Remi Allen discovers that the Saints Physio department is a front for organ transplants. Perfectly decent players have brains replaced by simple mechanisms, in order to take over the world with The System. Further victims uncovered, having watched RussBall for 90 minutes, and lapsing into unconsciousness.

Colossus: The Ankerson Project: Data driven tactics AI connects to all football clubs, and then takes over the world. Will it's creator, Ankerson, be able to stop it enforcing possession based football? Does he really want to?

Dragan's Millions: In order to take over a MSL franchise, Dragan must first blow £300 million taking a PL club as far down as possible, in this wacky comedy.

What Rasmus has clearly identified and what a lot of the dinosaurs on here are struggling to grasp is that soccerball is a sport where the majority of things go wrong.

Think about it. Most top players will win at best 10-15 trophies in their career, which means they'll probably not win another 20-25 competitions they enter

Do teams score every time they go forward? No most times they go forward they dont score

Since records began only two people in the world have completed more than 50% dribbles, which means for every other player in the world they complete less dribbles than they make.

It's always going wrong. The list goes on...

So Rasmus and Russ have identified ways where most things can go right. Possession, control of the game, we are just at the start of the journey to become a global football dynasty, building the foundations of getting it right, Rasmus broke it, now he's rebuilding from the ground up, foundations first, you cant build a house on sand can you. 

 

[Wade Garrett]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

What Rasmus has clearly identified and what a lot of the dinosaurs on here are struggling to grasp is that soccerball is a sport where the majority of things go wrong.

Think about it. Most top players will win at best 10-15 trophies in their career, which means they'll probably not win another 20-25 competitions they enter

Do teams score every time they go forward? No most times they go forward they dont score

Since records began only two people in the world have completed more than 50% dribbles, which means for every other player in the world they complete less dribbles than they make.

It's always going wrong. The list goes on...

So Rasmus and Russ have identified ways where most things can go right. Possession, control of the game, we are just at the start of the journey to become a global football dynasty, building the foundations of getting it right, Rasmus broke it, now he's rebuilding from the ground up, foundations first, you cant build a house on sand can you. 

 

It’s all about the XG and spreadsheets don’t you know.

[Weston Super Saint]

9 hours ago, Turkish said:

, you cant build a house on sand can you. 

 

Maybe not, but you can definitely build a fucking castle!

[Gloucester Saint]

Good work Dark Munster starting this thread - the focus is not just on Martin now but on Rasmus and SR https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton

[Badger]

2 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Good work Dark Munster starting this thread - the focus is not just on Martin now but on Rasmus and SR https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton

Disappointing to see even Blackmore falling for the myth of what Rasmus achieved at Brentford. Shouldn’t take too much investigative journalism or thought to realise others were the brains behind it.
 

Added to which Brentford have it seems got stronger since he left. 
 

 

[Wade Garrett]

Couldn’t care less what Blackmore says.  He licks the clubs boots so much he’s going down with cherry blossom poisoning.

[saintant]

18 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Good work Dark Munster starting this thread - the focus is not just on Martin now but on Rasmus and SR https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton

You'd like to think Blackmore would know that Phil Giles masterminded the rise of Brentford not Ankersen but it seems not.

[Gloucester Saint]

Just now, saintant said:

You'd like to think Blackmore would know that Phil Giles masterminded the rise of Brentford not Ankersen but it seems not.

Yes, as Badger said, that stuck out and disappointed me. Bullshitters seem to get away with it often, and with his fellow bullshitter the manager they are taking SFC potentially down a road even Markus couldn’t have dug the club out of. 

[Dr. Kucho]

2 hours ago, saintant said:

You'd like to think Blackmore would know that Phil Giles masterminded the rise of Brentford not Ankersen but it seems not.

That’s been said many times that Giles started Brentfords rise, but what did Ankersen do there and where can he be credited for?

It’s good the fans are questioning Ankersen’s work at the club, but did anyone really expect an honest answer from Blackmore? His answers will always be PR talk, like all these Q&As. Lineker tends to say what he thinks on his Podcast, but most journalists don’t want to upset the club and risk losing their sources. 

[Miltonaggro]

11 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

Couldn’t care less what Blackmore says.  He licks the clubs boots so much he’s going down with cherry blossom poisoning.

#Brownmore...

[Badger]

4 hours ago, Dr. Kucho said:

That’s been said many times that Giles started Brentfords rise, but what did Ankersen do there and where can he be credited for?

It’s good the fans are questioning Ankersen’s work at the club, but did anyone really expect an honest answer from Blackmore? His answers will always be PR talk, like all these Q&As. Lineker tends to say what he thinks on his Podcast, but most journalists don’t want to upset the club and risk losing their sources. 

Brentford fan up there in August said ‘Ankersen managed the spreadsheets’.

But I think we guessed that.

 

[Badger]

Regarding Blackmore , he was quite outspoken when Jones was manager. 
 

Quite why he saw fit to come ‘off script’ and so outspoken but now tow the party line is intriguing. He has questioned RM a couple of times and got a prickly response but perhaps taking aim at Rasmus really could put him on collision course with the club and limit his access. 

[trousers]

1 hour ago, Badger said:

Regarding Blackmore , he was quite outspoken when Jones was manager. 
 

Quite why he saw fit to come ‘off script’ and so outspoken but now tow the party line is intriguing. He has questioned RM a couple of times and got a prickly response but perhaps taking aim at Rasmus really could put him on collision course with the club and limit his access. 

No "perhaps" about it, I would venture. As much as I like Adam's persona and style, it's easy to tell when he's holding back on what he really thinks by the diplomatic 'around the houses' way that he sometimes phrases his* questions to Martin (and answers to questions that fans throw at him).

And I should know, being a founder member of the Fence Sitting Association  

(*Yes, of course, this no-doubt also applies to most sports journalists / reporters, especially the local ones)

Edited 20 November, 2024 by trousers

[hypochondriac]

17 hours ago, trousers said:

No "perhaps" about it, I would venture. As much as I like Adam's persona and style, it's easy to tell when he's holding back on what he really thinks by the diplomatic 'around the houses' way that he sometimes phrases his* questions to Martin (and answers to questions that fans throw at him).

And I should know, being a founder member of the Fence Sitting Association  

(*Yes, of course, this no-doubt also applies to most sports journalists / reporters, especially the local ones)

Not sure about that. He's been pretty clear I thought on his going home with Adam and Joe recordings after games. I think the main difference between Martin and Jones is that he thought Jones was absolutely useless and he still thinks there is some potential with Martin as well as his achievements getting us up last year giving him some credit and all the players we have brought in specifically to play martin ball. 

[Master Bates]

20 hours ago, Badger said:

Regarding Blackmore , he was quite outspoken when Jones was manager. 
 

Quite why he saw fit to come ‘off script’ and so outspoken but now tow the party line is intriguing. He has questioned RM a couple of times and got a prickly response but perhaps taking aim at Rasmus really could put him on collision course with the club and limit his access. 

Being coy.

[Gloucester Saint]

Surely Dragan must be questioning what is going on at Southampton and Valenciennes?

Martin is severely damaging not only SFC, but Rasmus, Dragan and the SR brand with every game and every mistake ‘playing out’.

[Badger]

Were any of the ‘gang of three’ there yesterday to witness it first hand ? 

[Gloucester Saint]

18 minutes ago, Badger said:

Were any of the ‘gang of three’ there yesterday to witness it first hand ? 

Don’t know, but Dragan is a big name in Serbia and if protests get going in earnest it will be all over their media which won’t do.