Team for next season

[benjii]

NEW, Baz

Suga, Bree 

Manning, Taylor

Janny B, Stephens, Edwards, NEW, Wood

Downes, Smallbone, Aribo?, Lallana? NEW, NEW

Edozie, Amo Ameyaw, NEW, NEW,

Archer, Armstrong, NEW

 

Ramsdale, THB and Dibling sales should raise about 100 - 110m for the "NEWS", plus a PL loan or two.

 

Should be challenging for top 2?

[egg]

If we could keep that group, we'd be very competitive, and on course for another PL relegation bid in 2027. 

[bangkoksaint]

I’d have taken Leeds last 2 seasons over ours. Yes we won at Wembley but my god have we had more miserable Saturday afternoons than them.

[spyinthesky]

53 minutes ago, egg said:

If we could keep that group, we'd be very competitive, and on course for another PL relegation bid in 2027. 

I dont think we would bearing in mind we had relatively strong sides out against weakened Cardiff and Stoke teams and only sneaked through at the death with late goals and conceding five goals.
We should be able to recall Shea Charles who seems to be doing Ok at Sheff Weds.
The two relegated clubs are likely to be stronger than us so it it would be the playoffs again.
Also I very much doubt that Ramsdale, THB and Dibling would fetch more than £60m tops.
It will all depend on a decent striker and a new Manager with a completely playing philosophy.

[Galway saint]

2 hours ago, spyinthesky said:

I dont think we would bearing in mind we had relatively strong sides out against weakened Cardiff and Stoke teams and only sneaked through at the death with late goals and conceding five goals.
We should be able to recall Shea Charles who seems to be doing Ok at Sheff Weds.
The two relegated clubs are likely to be stronger than us so it it would be the playoffs again.
Also I very much doubt that Ramsdale, THB and Dibling would fetch more than £60m tops.
It will all depend on a decent striker and a new Manager with a completely playing philosophy.

Shea Charles is doing very well according to what I was told by a couple of Owls fans. 

The prospect of a return for Irelands no.1 is pretty depressing - another total aberration by the club 

[Badger]

3 hours ago, bangkoksaint said:

I’d have taken Leeds last 2 seasons over ours. Yes we won at Wembley but my god have we had more miserable Saturday afternoons than them.

I think that was quite predictable, even last May after the match. 

[chiknsmack]

9 hours ago, benjii said:

NEW, Baz

Suga, Bree 

Manning, Taylor

Janny B, Stephens, Edwards, NEW, Wood

Downes, Smallbone, Aribo?, Lallana? NEW, NEW

Edozie, Amo Ameyaw, NEW, NEW,

Archer, Armstrong, NEW

 

Ramsdale, THB and Dibling sales should raise about 100 - 110m for the "NEWS", plus a PL loan or two.

 

Should be challenging for top 2?

 

There are a few players missing from those plans. Fernandes would be another big-money sale, though I'd hope for the possibility of PL loans for him, THB, and Dibling (and Ramsdale? Loan him to a promoted side in the hope he keeps them up at the expense of a more-established PL side, then take him back the next season to weaken the loanee side in 26/27? Maybe a loan swap for their top-of-the-Championship-quality keeper?) so they can return when we bounce straight back up to the Prem. If we return to the Prem in 2026/27 with a championship squad and have to buy new replacements for those three on top of what we need to do to improve on the current squad to become mid-table Prem at minimum, we won't have the money. If we return to the Prem, get those back for free and can add a few more of similar calibre we'll be competitive.

I know we sold Lavia and JWP last time, but we loaned out ABK and TP and kept KWP. Something similar (sell two, loan two) would be better than selling all four. Whether the owners would agree, or would see the opportunity to get a profit in the books and take it, I don't know.

BBD has largely been somewhere between shit and fucking shit this season, but there's a player there. He, Archer, and Armstrong are all capable of 20+ goals in the Champ. Fraser would be the experienced option alongside Edozie and SAA. As someone else has mentioned, Charles would be back and has impressed with consistent games at that level this season.

I'm not convinced Taylor and Bednarek would stay, so there could be two more "NEW"s required there.

 

8 hours ago, spyinthesky said:

Also I very much doubt that Ramsdale, THB and Dibling would fetch more than £60m tops.

It will all depend on a decent striker and a new Manager with a completely playing philosophy.

 

Ramsdale was £25m this year and after an England recall wouldn't be much/any cheaper. Dibling is roughly Livramento/Lavia level already so there's most of £60m on its own. THB has an England callup and a Man City pedigree so wouldn't be far behind Ramsdale.

As above I think we have the strikers to score for fun in the Champ, though as you say having a manager who actually wants to attack like mad and score for fun would help immensely.

[Whitey Grandad]

6 hours ago, chiknsmack said:

 

There are a few players missing from those plans. Fernandes would be another big-money sale, though I'd hope for the possibility of PL loans for him, THB, and Dibling (and Ramsdale? Loan him to a promoted side in the hope he keeps them up at the expense of a more-established PL side, then take him back the next season to weaken the loanee side in 26/27? Maybe a loan swap for their top-of-the-Championship-quality keeper?) so they can return when we bounce straight back up to the Prem. If we return to the Prem in 2026/27 with a championship squad and have to buy new replacements for those three on top of what we need to do to improve on the current squad to become mid-table Prem at minimum, we won't have the money. If we return to the Prem, get those back for free and can add a few more of similar calibre we'll be competitive.

I know we sold Lavia and JWP last time, but we loaned out ABK and TP and kept KWP. Something similar (sell two, loan two) would be better than selling all four. Whether the owners would agree, or would see the opportunity to get a profit in the books and take it, I don't know.

BBD has largely been somewhere between shit and fucking shit this season, but there's a player there. He, Archer, and Armstrong are all capable of 20+ goals in the Champ. Fraser would be the experienced option alongside Edozie and SAA. As someone else has mentioned, Charles would be back and has impressed with consistent games at that level this season.

I'm not convinced Taylor and Bednarek would stay, so there could be two more "NEW"s required there.

 

 

Ramsdale was £25m this year and after an England recall wouldn't be much/any cheaper. Dibling is roughly Livramento/Lavia level already so there's most of £60m on its own. THB has an England callup and a Man City pedigree so wouldn't be far behind Ramsdale.

As above I think we have the strikers to score for fun in the Champ, though as you say having a manager who actually wants to attack like mad and score for fun would help immensely.

“Attack like mad” is all I ask for.

[Farmer Saint]

16 hours ago, benjii said:

NEW, Baz

Suga, Bree 

Manning, Taylor

Janny B, Stephens, Edwards, NEW, Wood

Downes, Smallbone, Aribo?, Lallana? NEW, NEW

Edozie, Amo Ameyaw, NEW, NEW,

Archer, Armstrong, NEW

 

Ramsdale, THB and Dibling sales should raise about 100 - 110m for the "NEWS", plus a PL loan or two.

 

Should be challenging for top 2?

If we got relegated we would be in a better position financially than last time due to how we spent this year.

What's happened to Fernandes and BBD?

[Dman]

16 hours ago, benjii said:

NEW, Baz

Suga, Bree 

Manning, Taylor

Janny B, Stephens, Edwards, NEW, Wood

Downes, Smallbone, Aribo?, Lallana? NEW, NEW

Edozie, Amo Ameyaw, NEW, NEW,

Archer, Armstrong, NEW

 

Ramsdale, THB and Dibling sales should raise about 100 - 110m for the "NEWS", plus a PL loan or two.

 

Should be challenging for top 2?

I suspect Janny B would go, probably Aribo as well. 

I can't see anyone taking a punt on THB if im honest - he's not been consistent enough for warrent the £20+ we'd demand. 

I'd like to hope we could convince Dibbling for another year with us. 

But that's a really competative championship side tbh. Even players like Fraser and Charles are decent options at that level. 

[Dman]

16 hours ago, egg said:

If we could keep that group, we'd be very competitive, and on course for another PL relegation bid in 2027. 

imo, the only way survial is realistically achievable is doing what Forrest have done. Spent a load and gambled on the fact that better players would earn back the 4 points or whatever it was they were deducted due to FFP breaches. 

[S-Clarke]

 

14 minutes ago, Dman said:

imo, the only way survial is realistically achievable is doing what Forrest have done. Spent a load and gambled on the fact that better players would earn back the 4 points or whatever it was they were deducted due to FFP breaches. 

People keep saying the answer is to spend money, but isn't that what SR have done for the last 3 years? They are just absolutely terrible at doing so. It won't matter how much money we throw at it if the same people are making the picks, I include managers in that.

I thought the years when we spent on Boufal/Hoedt/Lemina/Carillo were bad enough, but these guys are on another level of incompetence.

[benjii]

35 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

If we got relegated we would be in a better position financially than last time due to how we spent this year.

What's happened to Fernandes and BBD?

Didn't think BBD was worth mentioning. He's backheeled it out of play twice this year and that was the final straw for me. He's fooling no-one with the new haircut.

Forgot about Fernandes. I expect we will loan him to a European club and hope we can get him back the following year. Not sure he will have done enough to get a very big money transfer.

I also forgot to mention Tall Paul. Would happily keep him for a year in the Champ. 

[tdmickey3]

It will definitely worse than last season

[SNSUN]

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statistik/endendevertraege

 

Probably a few on there we could get on a free. Probably have to scroll a few pages to the less expensive players. 😄

[Football Special]

What are David Brooks and Joe Rothwell up to? 

[SambaMaverick]

Who's buying THB on what we've seen so far? We'd have to take a pretty hefty haircut on the £20m we paid, that's for sure. He's been average at best.

[Morse]

Ramsdale, THB, Fernandes and Dibling will all be sold, probably £80-100m there; which SR will spaff on a coach load of 17-18yo wingers who will never see the light of day. It's the Rasmus way. 

[AlexLaw76]

where does the 'scar tissue' feature in this?

[Saint in Paradise]

Isn't there a full back from South America due in January? If so would he still be around

in the Championship next season?

[Lighthouse]

6 hours ago, SambaMaverick said:

Who's buying THB on what we've seen so far? We'd have to take a pretty hefty haircut on the £20m we paid, that's for sure. He's been average at best.

We can easily recoup that on a young English CB with a season of PL football and an England call up. I wouldn’t sell for less than £25-30m, personally.

[hypochondriac]

On 10/11/2024 at 17:56, bangkoksaint said:

I’d have taken Leeds last 2 seasons over ours. Yes we won at Wembley but my god have we had more miserable Saturday afternoons than them.

Not if they don't get promoted this year I wouldn't. 

[hypochondriac]

6 hours ago, SambaMaverick said:

Who's buying THB on what we've seen so far? We'd have to take a pretty hefty haircut on the £20m we paid, that's for sure. He's been average at best.

He's a new England international. With the premium paid for English talent we'd most likely pocket a fair bit more than we paid. 

[SambaMaverick]

27 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

He's a new England international. With the premium paid for English talent we'd most likely pocket a fair bit more than we paid. 

 

30 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

We can easily recoup that on a young English CB with a season of PL football and an England call up. I wouldn’t sell for less than £25-30m, personally.

Only if the buying team hadn't actually seen him play, which is how we do most of our recruitment I assume.

[AlexLaw76]

7 hours ago, SambaMaverick said:

 

Only if the buying team hadn't actually seen him play, which is how we do most of our recruitment I assume.

They probably see the ingredients of a very good CB in the making. They will also see that out bizarre system is killing him (and others)

[redkeith]

McCarthy, Baz

Bree 

Manning, Taylor

Stephens, Edwards, Wood

Downes, Smallbone, Aribo, Charles

Edozie, Amo Ameyaw, Fraser, Sulemana

Armstrong, Diaz, Stewart,

Sugawara and Bednarek Ramsdale  and THB will all find a some interest. Dibling and Fernandes will be off like a shot. Archer has looked good on the counter, it is a shame we hardly ever try it.

Lallana would not  be able to cope with 2 games a week.  Tall Paul's contract is running down, so I think a last day piss take offer grom Turkey will get accepted. 

Other than Charles, none of our loanies have made enough of an impression.  The 2 goal scorers for the U21's last night looked promising, as does the double barrelled Irish midfield player. Lets uses them more than we did Meghoma and SAA.