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19 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Yeah you’ve said that twice now. Well done. And just for clarity, I’ll laugh at those who have been and will continue to be so definitive in their views on RM being a terrible appointment. And if we don’t win, I’ll continue to laugh at them.

Thanks for confirming that if we win tonight your "it's not really about the manager" routine will take a back seat and would you believe it, it is thanks to the manager after all.

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3 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Thanks for confirming that if we win tonight your "it's not really about the manager" routine will take a back seat and would you believe it, it is thanks to the manager after all.

Again, not what I said. Win or lose today it doesn’t define his tenure or his ability as a manager and win or lose I’ll probably still think the players will have played some part. Radical, I know. 

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10 hours ago, vectraman said:

RM will be schooled by Dyche. Everton will get in our faces and close us down not giving time for tippy tappy stuff.  We give it away and they go score. I can see a comfortable 0-2 loss. Man City want to play perfect football and score perfect goals. Everton will just get stuck in and win ugly and easily. Won’t give us the space that City did. 
We won’t be ‘brave’ and Everton won’t allow any ‘process’ nonsense. Goals win games, we won’t get any. 
 

Agree, I'd have Dyche in a heartbeat. He makes RM look like a schoolboy.

He will tell them to press high and let our kamikaze defending do the rest.

3-1 to them.

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34 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

 

 

Except I didn’t say it has nothing to do with him either way did I? I made the point because some people seem so emotionally invested in him that every good or bad result will ultimately be a judgement on him. It’s extreme and probably part of an unhealthy English football culture ultimately but your responses just seem to highlight the extreme nature of it all, it can only be all his fault or nothing to do with him. Nobody seems capable of actually finding or even exploring the nuanced truth in the middle. 

@Fabrice29 was going to DM you this but fuck it can’t be bothered, I’ve got a big match to deal with this afternoon.

And Anyhow - please don’t spoil there fun game of telling everyone how much they hate RM ~ and in so many fun and cringeworthy ways too. They are and continue to be so inventive about it. Ive even noted that there’s a feeling that even IF we win today ( some chance with that legohead in charge!!)  that it will be despite RM. Haha that’s a nice touch- good one! 

FWIW - Even if we score from a long throw and TP nods it in it will be despite RM and even if Tyler and Fernandez who are starting every important match, are playing it’s despite RM as he knows nothing about football. Oh, and if you or I should say “ but don’t you think this pantomime Villanisation of RM is a bit OTT - he doesn’t actually get onto the pitch, you know, to kick the ball around, and politely may I add for the most part, they will come on here and say, and I paraphrase

“ Anger anger anger previously aimed at RM now full square on another Saints fan for suggesting that we may be able to look at this in another way. Oh NO, NO, No, NO this is not how the narrative rolls out —-frustrated anger is now to be aimed full square at anyone does not fully agree - so this means they automatically are a “ fuck shit crap wank cunt Lucy, Martin, martins mum, SR employee, cretin, fanboy, troll, mental, stupid, idiotic, apologist for the indefensible idiot etc etc etc “ 🤭. Of course we are. And so very inventive all the ways to abuse another saints fan. 

That we ALL are all of those things - and none of them at the same time is neither here nor there, 😂, but as a student of human psychology it’s telling that NUANCE is totally absent as you comment - that there can only be two sides - like in a football match - in this debate strikes me as rather apt. The passion the RM haters display - and their hatred of the “ opposition” is exactly the same as if you go to a derby match. These posters willingly would get out there fathers gun and shoot people like you and I- at a match - and on this forum - despite fact we are Saints fans through and through. Why? We take the place of the source of there anger by posting in here and becoming the” easy” target for there weird emojis and paragraphs explaining why one is a cubt. 😂

Anyone fancy meeting me for a pint pre match to prove I am not as bad as some here might think. Please form an orderly queue. 😇😂

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20 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Again, not what I said. Win or lose today it doesn’t define his tenure or his ability as a manager and win or lose I’ll probably still think the players will have played some part. Radical, I know. 

Of course, the rest of us dins don't think the players have anything to do with it. Just awfully clever types like you.

I wish I were smart like u is

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1 hour ago, Fabrice29 said:

Btw just a quick reminder to those below and others so obsessed with RM that he’s just the manager, the game isn’t just won or lost because of who the manager is and having him as the manager isn’t the only thing that matters. Just insane levels of obsession on here. 

 

 

 


This is because it’s absolutely insane to be going into a huge six pointer with an absolute muppet in charge. 
 

Every other PL club would have sacked him by now

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11 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

@Fabrice29 was going to DM you this but fuck it can’t be bothered, I’ve got a big match to deal with this afternoon.

And Anyhow - please don’t spoil there fun game of telling everyone how much they hate RM ~ and in so many fun and cringeworthy ways too. They are and continue to be so inventive about it. Ive even noted that there’s a feeling that even IF we win today ( some chance with that legohead in charge!!)  that it will be despite RM. Haha that’s a nice touch- good one! 

FWIW - Even if we score from a long throw and TP nods it in it will be despite RM and even if Tyler and Fernandez who are starting every important match, are playing it’s despite RM as he knows nothing about football. Oh, and if you or I should say “ but don’t you think this pantomime Villanisation of RM is a bit OTT - he doesn’t actually get onto the pitch, you know, to kick the ball around, and politely may I add for the most part, they will come on here and say, and I paraphrase

“ Anger anger anger previously aimed at RM now full square on another Saints fan for suggesting that we may be able to look at this in another way. Oh NO, NO, No, NO this is not how the narrative rolls out —-frustrated anger is now to be aimed full square at anyone does not fully agree - so this means they automatically are a “ fuck shit crap wank cunt Lucy, Martin, martins mum, SR employee, cretin, fanboy, troll, mental, stupid, idiotic, apologist for the indefensible idiot etc etc etc “ 🤭. Of course we are. And so very inventive all the ways to abuse another saints fan. 

That we ALL are all of those things - and none of them at the same time is neither here nor there, 😂, but as a student of human psychology it’s telling that NUANCE is totally absent as you comment - that there can only be two sides - like in a football match - in this debate strikes me as rather apt. The passion the RM haters display - and their hatred of the “ opposition” is exactly the same as if you go to a derby match. These posters willingly would get out there fathers gun and shoot people like you and I- at a match - and on this forum - despite fact we are Saints fans through and through. Why? We take the place of the source of there anger by posting in here and becoming the” easy” target for there weird emojis and paragraphs explaining why one is a cubt. 😂

Anyone fancy meeting me for a pint pre match to prove I am not as bad as some here might think. Please form an orderly queue. 😇😂


Russ, what are you doing posting essays on here? Shouldn’t you be preparing the team for the game? 
 

Btw this is all absolute fucking nonsense. We aren’t hostile to him for any of the above reasons. 
 

We are hostile to him because he’s embarrassing our football club and he’s not good enough. 
He was poor last season too btw. A better manager would have had our squad competing properly. I’m not sure why you and your best mate find that so difficult to comprehend. 

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16 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

@Fabrice29 was going to DM you this but fuck it can’t be bothered, I’ve got a big match to deal with this afternoon.

And Anyhow - please don’t spoil there fun game of telling everyone how much they hate RM ~ and in so many fun and cringeworthy ways too. They are and continue to be so inventive about it. Ive even noted that there’s a feeling that even IF we win today ( some chance with that legohead in charge!!)  that it will be despite RM. Haha that’s a nice touch- good one! 

FWIW - Even if we score from a long throw and TP nods it in it will be despite RM and even if Tyler and Fernandez who are starting every important match, are playing it’s despite RM as he knows nothing about football. Oh, and if you or I should say “ but don’t you think this pantomime Villanisation of RM is a bit OTT - he doesn’t actually get onto the pitch, you know, to kick the ball around, and politely may I add for the most part, they will come on here and say, and I paraphrase

“ Anger anger anger previously aimed at RM now full square on another Saints fan for suggesting that we may be able to look at this in another way. Oh NO, NO, No, NO this is not how the narrative rolls out —-frustrated anger is now to be aimed full square at anyone does not fully agree - so this means they automatically are a “ fuck shit crap wank cunt Lucy, Martin, martins mum, SR employee, cretin, fanboy, troll, mental, stupid, idiotic, apologist for the indefensible idiot etc etc etc “ 🤭. Of course we are. And so very inventive all the ways to abuse another saints fan. 

That we ALL are all of those things - and none of them at the same time is neither here nor there, 😂, but as a student of human psychology it’s telling that NUANCE is totally absent as you comment - that there can only be two sides - like in a football match - in this debate strikes me as rather apt. The passion the RM haters display - and their hatred of the “ opposition” is exactly the same as if you go to a derby match. These posters willingly would get out there fathers gun and shoot people like you and I- at a match - and on this forum - despite fact we are Saints fans through and through. Why? We take the place of the source of there anger by posting in here and becoming the” easy” target for there weird emojis and paragraphs explaining why one is a cubt. 😂

Anyone fancy meeting me for a pint pre match to prove I am not as bad as some here might think. Please form an orderly queue. 😇😂

Jesus wept.

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24 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:


Russ, what are you doing posting essays on here? Shouldn’t you be preparing the team for the game? 
 

Btw this is all absolute fucking nonsense. We aren’t hostile to him for any of the above reasons. 
 

We are hostile to him because he’s embarrassing our football club and he’s not good enough. 
He was poor last season too btw. A better manager would have had our squad competing properly. I’m not sure why you and your best mate find that so difficult to comprehend. 

Classic. Exhibit 1.1.👏

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Never unstood why people get so het  up on forums.

Express your views ...Russ out ..Russ in...hate Russ...love Russ....or general non concern. 

If fellow posters disagree with you and are unable to express their opposing view cordially..Just ignore and move on.

I guess people actually enjoy this sort of thing....

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2 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

Yeah you’ve said that twice now. Well done. And just for clarity, I’ll laugh at those who have been and will continue to be so definitive in their views on RM being a terrible appointment. And if we don’t win, I’ll continue to laugh at them.

'box of frogs'....

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This is it. The day it all falls into place. The start of a 10 match unbeaten run. Looking forward to eating a huge slice of humble pie.

Come on Saints! 

4-0

 

..if not, RM is still shit!

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Fail to win today and it’s has to be curtains for Martin. People are saying could another manager get more from this squad, I’d say definitely. 
 

We’ve contributed to our downfall numerous times this season due to the system which is a reflection on Martin’s ideology . Off the top of my head :- Newcastle away trying to get McCarthy to play it out from the back, not having an assigned penalty taker against Man U, not having anyone at the edge of the box , Ipswich and Leicester .. 

 

I think a semi competent manager could at least get us organized and stop us conceding so many goals from set pieces 

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1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

Some randomer claiming Dibling not starting which would be a blow. 

It might be because RM was remarking how well Armstrong was doing and that his opportunity might come soon.

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3 hours ago, gio1saints said:

@Fabrice29 was going to DM you this but fuck it can’t be bothered, I’ve got a big match to deal with this afternoon.

And Anyhow - please don’t spoil there fun game of telling everyone how much they hate RM ~ and in so many fun and cringeworthy ways too. They are and continue to be so inventive about it. Ive even noted that there’s a feeling that even IF we win today ( some chance with that legohead in charge!!)  that it will be despite RM. Haha that’s a nice touch- good one! 

FWIW - Even if we score from a long throw and TP nods it in it will be despite RM and even if Tyler and Fernandez who are starting every important match, are playing it’s despite RM as he knows nothing about football. Oh, and if you or I should say “ but don’t you think this pantomime Villanisation of RM is a bit OTT - he doesn’t actually get onto the pitch, you know, to kick the ball around, and politely may I add for the most part, they will come on here and say, and I paraphrase

“ Anger anger anger previously aimed at RM now full square on another Saints fan for suggesting that we may be able to look at this in another way. Oh NO, NO, No, NO this is not how the narrative rolls out —-frustrated anger is now to be aimed full square at anyone does not fully agree - so this means they automatically are a “ fuck shit crap wank cunt Lucy, Martin, martins mum, SR employee, cretin, fanboy, troll, mental, stupid, idiotic, apologist for the indefensible idiot etc etc etc “ 🤭. Of course we are. And so very inventive all the ways to abuse another saints fan. 

That we ALL are all of those things - and none of them at the same time is neither here nor there, 😂, but as a student of human psychology it’s telling that NUANCE is totally absent as you comment - that there can only be two sides - like in a football match - in this debate strikes me as rather apt. The passion the RM haters display - and their hatred of the “ opposition” is exactly the same as if you go to a derby match. These posters willingly would get out there fathers gun and shoot people like you and I- at a match - and on this forum - despite fact we are Saints fans through and through. Why? We take the place of the source of there anger by posting in here and becoming the” easy” target for there weird emojis and paragraphs explaining why one is a cubt. 😂

Anyone fancy meeting me for a pint pre match to prove I am not as bad as some here might think. Please form an orderly queue. 😇😂

Good god it’s like the travel club in written form. 

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Today - I’ve decided to give in to that annoying little voice in my head that pleads each week for more positivity with Martin, Stephens, Bednarek & a few others 

So, come on lads - time to kick start our season - COYR - onwards & upwards 🤞

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1 hour ago, Sunglasses Ron said:

Today is going to be horrible isn’t it?

On here it will be. You can pretty much script it, which is telling in itself.

From the selection announcement onwards.

"Good team apart from Manning."

"Manning, why?"

" No Dibling wtf?"

"Stephens again?"

"Not sure where a goal is going to come from."

Then in the match. 

"YESS!" (hopefully)

"Hanging on now."

"Fuck"

".....and there it is!"

"FFS we just can't keep a clean sheet." 

"Martin out."

"There we go."

"Very predictable."

"Fuck off Martin."

Bye Russ.

etc, etc

1-2 Everton. Maybe we could sort this out into some kind of SaintsWeb matchday bingo.

 

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Fucking Saturday again. To do list.

- moan about lineup

- lambast Martin

- whine about slow and backwards 

- comment that there's fannying around in box about 2 minutes before Everton score

- swear about reffing

- ask about subs

- wish I hadn't asked about subs when Rustie takes off best performers

- get sarcastic when Everton are gifted 2 more goals

- show colossal frustration at us just passing it around slowly at 3-0 down

- massive rant after final whistle

- come back a few hours later to vent a bit more

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2 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said:

Fucking Saturday again. To do list.

- moan about lineup

- lambast Martin

- whine about slow and backwards 

- comment that there's fannying around in box about 2 minutes before Everton score

- swear about reffing

- ask about subs

- wish I hadn't asked about subs when Rustie takes off best performers

- get sarcastic when Everton are gifted 2 more goals

- show colossal frustration at us just passing it around slowly at 3-0 down

- massive rant after final whistle

- come back a few hours later to vent a bit more

True.

Can you do lottery numbers too?

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2 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said:

Fucking Saturday again. To do list.

- moan about lineup

- lambast Martin

- whine about slow and backwards 

- comment that there's fannying around in box about 2 minutes before Everton score

- swear about reffing

- ask about subs

- wish I hadn't asked about subs when Rustie takes off best performers

- get sarcastic when Everton are gifted 2 more goals

- show colossal frustration at us just passing it around slowly at 3-0 down

- massive rant after final whistle

- come back a few hours later to vent a bit more

Would make it a drinking game, but it would be liver failure for all comers. 

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Prediction - we'll come flying out of the traps, catch them cold, play some decent stuff and go in at half-time 1-0 or 2-0 up and looking comfortable. 

They'll change something at half-time, we won't react to it, it'll go to 1-2 and we'll start to wobble. We'll make substitutions that make us worse, it'll go to 2-2. 

We'll go to panic stations, fall to bits completely and either hang on for a desperate point or lose it in the 5th minute of injury time. Probably by not marking properly for a corner. 

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