Saints 1-0 Everton - Match Thread

[lumuah]

8 hours ago, Cabrone said:

If we have a pitch Invasion can we get the season cancelled?

We'd probably only get a points deduction.... If we had any.

[suewhistle]

9 hours ago, franniesTache said:

Sadly the pyros in the Northam Wall will have resulted in a large number of deaths related to asthma and burns, and whilst this is bad it will be darkly overshadowed by the number of fans who slip into a catatonic coma due to the general boredom at having to still watch RUSSBALL(tm).

You've forgotten the increase in liver disease and obesity due to fans self-dosing to get themselves through the games.. All those flasks you see the old guys carrying, they aren't tea you know..

[notnowcato]

Massive game for us.

We need Lallana from the start for this and hope he can make the difference in the 60 odd minutes we'll have him for, whilst the dugout heroes settle into a low block.  I know Jack being available may not be palatable to some but he does give us the option of going 3 at the back and push KWP and (probably) Manning higher up the pitch.  If not then the central pairing of THB and Jan has looked ok.  Downes in the 6, Adam L and Matteus in the 8s. 

The front 3 is tricky.  Tyler looked like he needed a rest in the last couple of league games but if Lallana starts then their link up could be the key to unlocking Everton's defence.  If not Adam A will "do a job' I thought his decision making was poor on Tuesday after getting into some great positions.  Archer down the middle and fuck knows wide left, if only my calf wasn't a bit tight...

Up the fucking Saints!!!

[trousers]

I always said I'd give Russell 10 games before getting off the fence, and here we are.... I wonder which way trousers will fall....?

Edited 31 October, 2024 by trousers

[tdmickey3]

4 minutes ago, trousers said:

I always said I'd give Russell 10 games before getting off the fence, and here we are.... I wonder which way trousers will fall....?

Down 😉

[LiberalCommunist]

I think we will somehow win this game. First time I’ve felt that this season. 

[Saint Fan CaM]

17 minutes ago, trousers said:

I always said I'd give Russell 10 games before getting off the fence, and here we are.... I wonder which way trousers will fall....?

I presume you mean 10 league games?

What is the criteria for making a decision about which way you will fall… possession > %50, more than 0 points gained, a beautifully brave display by the players, Stephens and Manning on the bench, or a combo of all those?

[Whitey Grandad]

2 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Only in Groundhog Day, things improved slightly every day until pefection was achieved. 

Did it ever achieve that?

😉

[notnowcato]

13 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Did it ever achieve that?

😉

guess we'll find out tomorrow 😇

[Oldandtired]

I'm on a fence about this too. Win and get the desperately needed three points, RM will feel vindicated and able to carry on with his turgid style of football, lose and it might just be goodbye.

I really don't know what I'm hoping for the most.

Edited 31 October, 2024 by Oldandtired

[Wade Garrett]

4 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Only in Groundhog Day, things improved slightly every day until pefection was achieved. 

I reckon perfection would be 100% possession.  We would still probably lose 1-0 to an own goal, and not have a shot On target.

Post-match Russell will be stroking his beard purring about how brave we were.

[Mr X]

1 hour ago, Oldandtired said:

I'm on a fence about this too. Win and get the desperately needed three points, RM will feel vindicated and able to carry on with his turgid style of football, lose and it might just be goodbye.

I really don't know what I'm hoping for the most.

He can't realistically continue without a win in ten games and only one point on the board can he? Yet he seems to have been given reassurances by our genius owners 

[Saint Matty 76]

I’d imagine he gets the next two no matter what at this point, with any potential changes being lined up for the subsequent international break.

[InvictaSaint]

2 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

I’d imagine he gets the next two no matter what at this point, with any potential changes being lined up for the subsequent international break.

If it goes to shit on Saturday (likely) and if the fans turn then I think even our bunch of brainless twat board members would be forced into making a change. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

It's hard to imagine SR actually being so invested in/aligned to RM's approach and a 10 year plan (possibly following it), that they wouldn't make the changes if we get well beaten in the next 2.

They were supposedly invested in Ralph's system and had looked at Nathan over a long period before bringing him in.

They could follow a Brighton data approach. Where they could see where they needed to improve, and work on that confident the results would come. Martin will no doubt have pointed out finishing (note: from not many chances) and individual errors (note:within his system). The large squad, recruitment and resources will have played their part on expectations too.

Having gone through managers to get to here, are they wanting to follow another cycle of it? Do they really have confidence their hiring approach is going to keep us in the PL this time, when it's not worked at all so far

[saintant]

1 hour ago, InvictaSaint said:

If it goes to shit on Saturday (likely) and if the fans turn then I think even our bunch of brainless twat board members would be forced into making a change. 

I think you'll be in for a nasty surprise.

[saintant]

16 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

It's hard to imagine SR actually being so invested in/aligned to RM's approach and a 10 year plan (possibly following it), that they wouldn't make the changes if we get well beaten in the next 2.

They were supposedly invested in Ralph's system and had looked at Nathan over a long period before bringing him in.

They could follow a Brighton data approach. Where they could see where they needed to improve, and work on that confident the results would come. Martin will no doubt have pointed out finishing (note: from not many chances) and individual errors (note:within his system). The large squad, recruitment and resources will have played their part on expectations too.

Having gone through managers to get to here, are they wanting to follow another cycle of it? Do they really have confidence their hiring approach is going to keep us in the PL this time, when it's not worked at all so far

It's a longer way of stating they don't have a clue what they're doing.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

6 minutes ago, saintant said:

It's a longer way of stating they don't have a clue what they're doing.

I still think they got interested when RalphBall was going well, they heard about the playbook, and knew Gao wasn't investing and looking for a sale.

They thought that they could come in, implement their ideas of getting on the cusp players from elite clubs, with some Brentford like signings and thrive in the PL.

They hadn't paid enough attention to when RalphBall went wrong, and even with best of intentions, haven't done at all well in dealing with much since.

[derry]

18 hours ago, Football Special said:

I wonder what Dyche makes of Martin's possession obsession philosophy?

I've just heard from Sean! He says he's got a great plan for Saturday. As he doesn't have to worry about us scoring his instruction is pass it to a Saints player so they take it back into their own penalty area then press. He reckons they should benefit from at least double the number of usual mistakes.

[Saint Fan CaM]

21 minutes ago, derry said:

I've just heard from Sean! He says he's got a great plan for Saturday. As he doesn't have to worry about us scoring his instruction is pass it to a Saints player so they take it back into their own penalty area then press. He reckons they should benefit from at least double the number of usual mistakes.

How scary is it that there’s an element of truth in that plan?!

[trousers]

 

Interesting, perhaps, that on several occasions he talks about the difference between his players beng "fit" and "Premier League fit".... maybe we've got too many players in the former category rather than the latter...?

Edited 31 October, 2024 by trousers

[Challenger]

2 hours ago, InvictaSaint said:

If it goes to shit on Saturday (likely) and if the fans turn then I think even our bunch of brainless twat board members would be forced into making a change. 

I really wouldn't be so sure about that.

Best just bet on another defeat rather than this useless board doing anything.

[saintant]

1 hour ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

I still think they got interested when RalphBall was going well, they heard about the playbook, and knew Gao wasn't investing and looking for a sale.

They thought that they could come in, implement their ideas of getting on the cusp players from elite clubs, with some Brentford like signings and thrive in the PL.

They hadn't paid enough attention to when RalphBall went wrong, and even with best of intentions, haven't done at all well in dealing with much since.

Martin Semmens sold the club down the river because he handled the sale.

[trousers]

8 minutes ago, saintant said:

Martin Semmens sold the club down the river because he handled the sale.

You mean we were duped at the time...? Surely not....? 

[saintant]

9 minutes ago, trousers said:

You mean we were duped at the time...? Surely not....? 

Unfortunately for us, Semmens fell for the spiel of the snake oil salesman who writes the bullshit books and considers himself some kind of life coach. 

[die Mannyschaft]

I'll be late getting in for this game, so go 2-1 Saints win with Everton scoring in 3 mins. We will get a late goal 96th min.

Everton probably better in all positions than us so it's a case if we gave to one win at least and this is the best chance!!

[gio1saints]

7 hours ago, notnowcato said:

Massive game for us.

We need Lallana from the start for this and hope he can make the difference in the 60 odd minutes we'll have him for, whilst the dugout heroes settle into a low block.  I know Jack being available may not be palatable to some but he does give us the option of going 3 at the back and push KWP and (probably) Manning higher up the pitch.  If not then the central pairing of THB and Jan has looked ok.  Downes in the 6, Adam L and Matteus in the 8s. 

The front 3 is tricky.  Tyler looked like he needed a rest in the last couple of league games but if Lallana starts then their link up could be the key to unlocking Everton's defence.  If not Adam A will "do a job' I thought his decision making was poor on Tuesday after getting into some great positions.  Archer down the middle and fuck knows wide left, if only my calf wasn't a bit tight...

Up the fucking Saints!!!

Pretty much how I see it. Nervy match for both I’m sure!

On a side note:  I really cannot believe what I’ve seen from BBD and MC. And RF!
Apart from that goal v Lazio and getting the barstripe guy off, the Left Wing has made almost no contributions this season and has done exactly the same things every time on the pitch, NOT AN UPGRADE ON Sam E verdict after 8/9 matches I’d say with some conviction! 

1. BBD - get passed the ball on the left wing, try to control it then pass it back to left mid or centre mid. Stop moving, have a fag, job done for this half. 
2. MC is even better as he has not scored preseason nor got a guy sent off - his touches have been - get passed the ball on the left wing, try to control it then pass it back to left mid or centre mid. Stop moving have a fag job done for this half. Oh I forgot occasionally he does this : get passed the ball on the left wing, stand up the right back, kick the ball against his legs and hope it’s a nutmeg, as it isn’t stop moving have a fag,  job done for this half. 
3. RF: this one is a good variation because his job is to try to win the aerial battle with his taller right back, three or four times in when Aaron delivers a 60 yard high pass, Right to left, to try and “ catch out” the opposition defence by pumping it long instead of the 12 passes in the six yard box game. Fails every time of course. His other job is to make “ darting runs” but he is not allowed to beat his player for pace or skills as that’s a fine. When he is asked to defend it’s exciting, but oh dear he’s a forward not a full back. Ask Vardy. 🤭

[Saint NL]

What with all the Saints fans boooing another poor effort from Martin and the boys, it'll feel like a home game for Everton and give them an advantage 

[suewhistle]

I had to think for a minute as to who MC was although I came to the conclusion that I _have_ seen him play. He actually ended up on the right in the last game, if I remember correctly, although wouldn't be surprised if I wasn't...

[Holmes_and_Watson]

52 minutes ago, saintant said:

Unfortunately for us, Semmens fell for the spiel of the snake oil salesman who writes the bullshit books and considers himself some kind of life coach. 

Fooled Dragan too, to put up the money.

[RedWillie]

2 hours ago, trousers said:

You mean we were duped at the time...? Surely not....? 

What a load of guff this now appears.

[Mr X]

22 minutes ago, RedWillie said:

What a load of guff this now appears.

Laughable isn't? its just utter meaningless waffle 😂

But remember they are good people with the ambition and resources to lead us into the next era! 

Do the club still think they are on course to deliver this next era? 

[beatlesaint]

2 hours ago, Saint NL said:

What with all the Saints fans boooing another poor effort from Martin and the boys, it'll feel like a home game for Everton and give them an advantage 

Have you ever been to a game? The fans turn when it’s a lost cause usually not from the kick off !

[Winnersaint]

1 hour ago, beatlesaint said:

Have you ever been to a game? The fans turn when it’s a lost cause usually not from the kick off !

Unlike here where they turn as soon as the team is announced.

[Disco Stu]

5 hours ago, Saint NL said:

What with all the Saints fans boooing another poor effort from Martin and the boys, it'll feel like a home game for Everton and give them an advantage 

Getting Russell's excuses in early?

[Saint in Paradise]

8 hours ago, Mr X said:

Laughable isn't? its just utter meaningless waffle 😂

But remember they are good people with the ambition and resources to lead us into the next era! 

Do the club still think they are on course to deliver this next era? 

I feel that the era Sport R expect is rather different to the era Saints fans want.

[tdmickey3]

Anyone truthfully looking forward to another Martin induced fiasco.......

 

[badgerx16]

On 31/10/2024 at 08:02, Charlie Wayman said:

Only in Groundhog Day, things improved slightly every day until pefection was achieved. 

Perfection is an insult to Allah.

[trousers]

Courtesy of 'Facebook Memories"...

10 years ago today, Saints consolidate 2nd place with a Victor Wanyama special away to Hull City...

"Those were the days my friend..."

 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

19 minutes ago, trousers said:

Courtesy of 'Facebook Memories"...

10 years ago today, Saints consolidate 2nd place with a Victor Wanyama special away to Hull City...

"Those were the days my friend..."

 

Why trousers, just why?!

[tdmickey3]

22 minutes ago, trousers said:

Courtesy of 'Facebook Memories"...

10 years ago today, Saints consolidate 2nd place with a Victor Wanyama special away to Hull City...

"Those were the days my friend..."

 

5 Goals conceded 

21 scored

Almost opposite with Martin

[coalman]

Getting ready for Martin's press conference today.

 

 

[Morse]

I expect to lose 0-2, but to be honest that's an irrelevant statistic. What's matters is possession stats, I'm looking at 70-75%; and attitude, I thinking 'brave'. 

[Saint NL]

10 hours ago, Disco Stu said:

Getting Russell's excuses in early?

No, just making a poor joke about how the Evertonians love booing and it'd suit their players as they're used to it 😢

[beatlesaint]

2 hours ago, tdmickey3 said:

Anyone truthfully looking forward to another Martin induced fiasco.......

 

Strangely yes, in sofar as this really is a shit or bust game on many levels. 

[trousers]

59 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Why trousers, just why?!

You never know, when Rasmus (or one of his several plants... ) reads the post it might encourage SR to pull out all the stops to entice Koeman back to the club... 😁

Edited 1 November, 2024 by trousers

[BARCELONASAINT]

I didn't watch the game against City last week and instead spent the afternoon with the wife. Watched the midweek Cup game and wished i had been with the wife instead. (She was in Liverpool on a works jolly)

At the moment i'm leaning towards spending the afternoon with the wife again tomorrow.

[tdmickey3]

21 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

Strangely yes, in sofar as this really is a shit or bust game on many levels. 

Its sure to be both 

[Doctoroncall]

15 hours ago, Mr X said:

Laughable isn't? its just utter meaningless waffle 😂

But remember they are good people with the ambition and resources to lead us into the next era! 

Do the club still think they are on course to deliver this next era? 

All the business score card goals will be red, except for RA’s as winning matches is an illusion. 
 

Back to reality and the match, I’m thinking we’ll get that draw to double our points tally, I’m being brave. 

[Weston Super Saint]

37 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

I didn't watch the game against City last week and instead spent the afternoon with the wife. Watched the midweek Cup game and wished i had been with the wife instead. (She was in Liverpool on a works jolly)

At the moment i'm leaning towards spending the afternoon with the wife again tomorrow.

Jesus wept!

Things are really bad if that's the better option!