Stripey McStripe Shirt Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 6 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: Absolute dogshit. I bet Everton are shitting themselves. Everton? As in the team we beat in the previous round, away from home? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 2 minutes ago, Stripey McStripe Shirt said: Everton? As in the team we beat in the previous round, away from home? Their form has massively improved since then. Ours however... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 39 minutes ago, SWLondon Saint said: I'm still not quite sure what to make of Sugawara. Good in possession on the whole, he makes really good and seemingly tireless runs forward both inside and outside. Seems to have no clue what to do on set pieces and also loses his man outside far too often. Great ball round corner for AA who should have played Archer but closed his own angle and shot. Won the pen due to the defender being naive. No idea what he was doing with their 1st goal. Saved Ramsdale's bacon though with that clearance, that was crap keeping. Would like to see him cross it more but not sure if he's been told not to. When he signed for us, his game was very much getting down the line and crossing. Russell has done a magnificent job in knocking that out of him. Got to go sideways or backwards. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 5 minutes ago, Stripey McStripe Shirt said: Everton? As in the team we beat in the previous round, away from home? Yes, that’s the one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 And still we panic in defending .................fuck me he was a fucking defender ,albeit an average one,so why cant he coach his defence drills into ours?..........wheres that fucking rocket science book............................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnia Cherie Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 Not that I needed any convincing but this match shows we are Championship standard. 3-2m at home to 19th placed Stoke. 🙄 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 Overall, that was really, really concerning. We were 2-0 and didn't really put any pressure on them, and then we collapsed. Again. After that we went through the motions, nearly conceded a calamitous goal and then out of nowhere got the winner. Defence is a mess. RM has to sort it out and quickly. I want him to stay but performances like that make it very hard to defend him, and make it very hard to not want a more defensive-minded coach to come in and shore things up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWLondon Saint Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 Had another look at the goals we conceded. The first one we absolutely have to compete better on the first ball, it's absolutely criminal. Then Suga had to be more aware there's noone outside him and can let it go. Still no clue what he's trying to do, think a chest to keeper most likely... The 2nd there is clearly not enough defensive communication after the ball is lost. THB starts on Cannon but drifts off him, then Suga is out of position. They did get lucky the deflection on the shot takes it straight to Cannon but still, no-one is near him. The one off the line is a pretty suicidal pass back from ?Cornet? on the right touchline, however THB maybe could be braver to get his body or head in there which would have won a free kick. After that I thought Ramsdale should have claimed it easily as their player took a heavy touch, but somehow it bounces off his chest and nearly in off their guy. Good clearance by Suga. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 14 minutes ago, Stripey McStripe Shirt said: Everton? As in the team we beat in the previous round, away from home? Don’t think we’ll beat them at the weekend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 5 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said: Overall, that was really, really concerning. We were 2-0 and didn't really put any pressure on them, and then we collapsed. Again. After that we went through the motions, nearly conceded a calamitous goal and then out of nowhere got the winner. Defence is a mess. RM has to sort it out and quickly. I want him to stay but performances like that make it very hard to defend him, and make it very hard to not want a more defensive-minded coach to come in and shore things up. You want someone that has 1 point in 27 soon to be 1 point in 30 to stay? 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 How can anyone think that having your two worst players on the ball and see it more than any other player on the pitch. I reckon Bedders touched it more than the Stoke team altogether . Martin talks about bravery yet not one wide player or forward takes on a defender and just recycles backwards sideward to other wing and back. Players make runs in behind but then stop doing as the ball just gets played back to 2 centre halves. Fernandes is only one that does but even he gave up with just Archer and 4 defenders in middle all rest just passengers wide. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 They may have won but hardly a positive vibe. Some of the football in the 1st half was excellent, but like every other game the opposition work Saints out. Martin has to be more dynamic in his tactics. Bendarek, Aribo, THB, Fernandes, Armstrong, and to his credit Sulemana equipped themselves well. The rest just put us under even more pressure than usual. What the hell was he doing taking off Bendarek and replacing him with SAA. If ever there was a moment for Stephens. Cornett killed every attack as he simply can't beat his man. Diaz well why just why. Les really struggled, he's only young but he isn't ready for this level of football yet. It just feels like he needs to give them a game. Walking football again, it just doesn't work. Stoke missed three chances in the 2nd half. The other 19 Prem teams won't miss those. Saints will be the one everyone wants in the draw tomorrow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 10 minutes ago, Winnersaint said: Don’t think we’ll beat them at the weekend I'm struggling to believe that this lot can beat any PL team on any day. This flawed version of football is nothing short of boring, pathetic crap. I will be amazed if this team avoids a record PL low points total. SR said after promotion that they would not make the same mistakes again, yeah right. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 24 minutes ago, Sarnia Cherie said: Not that I needed any convincing but this match shows we are Championship standard. 3-2m at home to 19th placed Stoke. 🙄 A Stoke team that made eight changes too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 The only positive was that someone we dominated the ball and won the game. That is it. If you watched the game you’d be going “wtf was that 100 minutes of football”?! It was absolutely terrible. Not one player on that pitch tonight had a good game, maybe Bree and Aribo were satisfactory for the most part. Brereton-Diaz, did we actually pay for him? Like actually money? He is giving Ali Dia a run for his money in terms of being a footballer. I didn’t think we could get a worse left winger than Fraser, then Brereton-Diaz, then Sulemana but then Maxwell Cornet came along! Our recruitment is quite something! And as for the endless sideways, mind-numbing passing, despite many opportunities presenting themselves to have a shot at goal, or whip a cross in early - Jesus Christ - it’s infuriating. I’m at the point where I legitimately don’t care, and I genuinely don’t, I haven’t done properly for years. There’s more to life than watching a bunch of halfwits kick a ball around a bit of grass. I go to football now to have a social, way more fun - and tonight was no exception with tons of laughs and jokes made about our poor tactics and players along the way, and dare I say it some of our fans too. The dancing and hysterics by some around me when Bree scored, again - Jesus Christ - you’d think we’d just scored a last minute cup final goal against Liverpool. 🤣😂 Onto the Everton game, if it’s anything like tonight’s performance they could tonk us! 😂 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 9 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Onto the Everton game, if it’s anything like tonight’s performance they could tonk us! 😂 I'm not excited at all. I hate the way we play under Martin. I'll probably tune in out of habit but I'm anticipating more frustration. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 53 minutes ago, Stripey McStripe Shirt said: Everton? As in the team we beat in the previous round, away from home? We drew. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mboto Gorge Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 1 hour ago, Lighthouse said: Decent cup tie, when all’s said and done. Into the QFs we go. Thanks Russ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football Special Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 Worrying throwing away a 2 goal lead again and some of the players looked particularly poor (Cornet and big Les main culprits) but still nice to walk out of St Mary's having seen a win, makes a nice change. Shame there's no potential draws left that we can win in the next round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield_General Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 Just back from the game. Match report: At home, with a strong side out, playing the reserves of an awful side currently 19th in the Championship, we were very lucky not to lose, even after going 2-0 up. Even with 78% possession we were one desperate goal-line clearance away from a collapse and a humiliation. We play the absolute definition of propaganda football. Even against kids and dross we can't defend for shit, and we've coached some previously decent looking players into looking completely and utterly lost. We're shit, we're going to lose against Everton and Wolves, and we are absolutely doomed. I think that just about covers it. Night all. 11 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarberSaint Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 9Pepe Guardiola: "Attack is the best form of Defence" Russell Martin: "Aha! Defence is the best form of Attack!!!" (That'll learn 'em) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 55 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said: How can anyone think that having your two worst players on the ball and see it more than any other player on the pitch. I reckon Bedders touched it more than the Stoke team altogether . Martin talks about bravery yet not one wide player or forward takes on a defender and just recycles backwards sideward to other wing and back. Players make runs in behind but then stop doing as the ball just gets played back to 2 centre halves. Fernandes is only one that does but even he gave up with just Archer and 4 defenders in middle all rest just passengers wide. Whereas Archer touched the ball 5 times in the first half. Why play a centre forward if you’re not going to give him the ball (I know he’s tried to play without one). Archer’s not Haaland but he’s a decent enough finisher given half a chance. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 1 hour ago, Patrick Bateman said: The worrying thing about the club is who sanctioned these signings? Ugochukwu was utter crap. Slow, ponderous, can't turn, doesn't bust a gut. Bereton-Diaz was like some random fan was given a shirt to come on and watch play pass him by. Cornet was dreadful, he can run, but that's it - although I think I can potentially see someone good, maybe ... Fraser was off the boil again. Really glad he wanted to come and can't fault his effort, but he's not in the game right now. I'm not even bothering to mention the bizarre Woods and Edwards signings ... These were all signed for this season and to counter balance Archer has something about him, so does Fernandes, but neither shone tonight. Summer recruitment looking poor. Agreed. But you left off Ramsdale, even he isn't looking that great a signing right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 3 minutes ago, Saint NL said: Agreed. But you left off Ramsdale, even he isn't looking that great a signing right now. True I'd forgotten about him. He's looking nervy and certainly not the player he should be - but he's one I was delighted signed, maybe he'll settle? Hopefully 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 (edited) 4 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said: True I'd forgotten about him. He's looking nervy and certainly not the player he should be - but he's one I was delighted signed, maybe he'll settle? Hopefully You need to understand everyone will be nervy standing there for us. Edited October 30 by HKsaint 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalSaintSO50 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Quarter finals it is you moaning bastards. Who do we want next? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 How many have we conceded this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 15 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said: I, four one, am stoked for tonight's soccerball encounter. St Mary's will be rocking, we will have a full strength team out. The passing will be slick, precise and productive. Providing the light show goes off without a hitch I'm forecasting a 5 to nothing home run for the Southampton Saints. COYR. Get in! Absolute masterclass. Amazing passing and the possession stats were through the roof. Apparently we 'won' by scoring more goals as well, so that's a neat little bonus. COYR 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 4 hours ago, LoyalSaintSO50 said: Quarter finals it is you moaning bastards. Who do we want next? None of the above , as they say 😄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 (edited) 5 hours ago, HKsaint said: You need to understand everyone will be nervy standing there for us. Seeing the players body language, the individual errors, the inability to show anything other then an attempt at sticking to Martin's terrible dogma. The are trying, but deep down. They don't believe in it. It's just utterly tragic. Edited October 30 by Colinjb 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madge Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 8 hours ago, Give it to Ron said: How can anyone think that having your two worst players on the ball and see it more than any other player on the pitch. I reckon Bedders touched it more than the Stoke team altogether . Martin talks about bravery yet not one wide player or forward takes on a defender and just recycles backwards sideward to other wing and back. Players make runs in behind but then stop doing as the ball just gets played back to 2 centre halves. Fernandes is only one that does but even he gave up with just Archer and 4 defenders in middle all rest just passengers wide. We had one wide player with the ability to take on a player and he’s been loaned out… Sam E, ok end product not always there but so obvious Martin’s philosophy of recycling the ball, not committing to beating a player one on one, is actually starting to stifle any attacking intent. Lots of opportunities to put a decent cross in for big Paul last night and instead we go back and sideways.. it’s a depressing watch. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmore Saint Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 8 hours ago, BarberSaint said: 9Pepe Guardiola: "Attack is the best form of Defence" Russell Martin: "Aha! Defence is the best form of Attack!!!" (That'll learn 'em) It’s just a shame that we’re pretty shit at both…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: How many have we conceded this season? 25 in 12 games 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 3 minutes ago, Jack said: 25 in 12 games Including 16 conceded in our 7 games against Cardiff, Brentford, Everton, Ipswich, Bournemouth, Leicester and Stoke. 2.3 per game against that shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woksaintly Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Can we put a lolly pop man on the pitch next game with a sign pointing towards the opposition goal as three quarters of our team think the goal is on the half way line. As most have posted expectations are sideways backwards, sideways, backwards, loose possession opposition goal. Repeat. But we were brave and a team to be proud of. Insanity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 1 minute ago, woksaintly said: Can we put a lolly pop man on the pitch next game with a sign pointing towards the opposition goal as three quarters of our team think the goal is on the half way line. As most have posted expectations are sideways backwards, sideways, backwards, loose possession opposition goal. Repeat. But we were brave and a team to be proud of. Insanity Or, take a leaf out of these FC Magdeburg fan's books. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 I dragged myself along even though my heart wasn’t in it. The Kingsland was fully closed and hence fully empty which gave a weird feeling to the game with no chance of any atmosphere. I sat in the Chapel and whilst the view of my end of the pitch was ok in the other half it was difficult to really see what was going on. In the second half I had unfortunately a good view of our linear one dimensional football with the ball going from left back to right back via the two or three players in the middle. Defensively this is a shit way of playing because as soon as the opposition has broken through our thin crust they are bearing down on our goal in numbers. There are no layers to our defence. Good to get a win. It might be the last I see this season. James Bree is a very good player. Adam Armstrong was lively and inventive. Took his penalty well. Why did we sign Cornet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football Special Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 9 hours ago, Appy said: A Stoke team that made eight changes too. Stoke had just 22% possession and yet nearly won the game, if the goal line clearance had gone in I don't think we'd have come back, would have been the ultimate Martin loss. But luck was on our side, Bree saved the day , could be a turning point? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Another telling moment was when Fernandes rifled a typically crap cross in to the centre and it spooned off a defender for a corner. It could have gone anywhere...including the goal. And that's the point. Yes, it's preferable to get the ball to the bye line but just get the ball in the middle and challenge for it. So many times we're 20/30 yards away from a team's penalty area and the next thing it's either with our central defenders or back to goalie. Pump it in there. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 8 hours ago, Football Special said: Worrying throwing away a 2 goal lead again and some of the players looked particularly poor (Cornet and big Les main culprits) but still nice to walk out of St Mary's having seen a win, makes a nice change. Shame there's no potential draws left that we can win in the next round Both were poor, I agree. However, both have hardly played any football and look rusty and if im honest, not suited to Martins style. Cornet is a good player, we've seen that at Lyon and Burnely and in spells before injury at West Ham. I'd like to see him given a run of games, he's no worse than fraser ffs. Big Les looks handy in a tackle, adds steel to our midfield, but is awful on the ball. From the limited I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football Special Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 2 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: I dragged myself along even though my heart wasn’t in it. The Kingsland was fully closed and hence fully empty which gave a weird feeling to the game with no chance of any atmosphere. I sat in the Chapel and whilst the view of my end of the pitch was ok in the other half it was difficult to really see what was going on. In the second half I had unfortunately a good view of our linear one dimensional football with the ball going from left back to right back via the two or three players in the middle. Defensively this is a shit way of playing because as soon as the opposition has broken through our thin crust they are bearing down on our goal in numbers. There are no layers to our defence. Good to get a win. It might be the last I see this season. James Bree is a very good player. Adam Armstrong was lively and inventive. Took his penalty well. Why did we sign Cornet? I like James Bree, hard working player, joined us from Luton at the request of Nathan Jones which obviously didn't turn out to be such a great move for him but he gets his head down and never complains, has shown he can do a job for us when given a chance Cornet on the other hand reminded me of Ali Dia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisonlyonemickychannon Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 This has to go down as one of the most disappointing saints team I have ever seen. Modern tippy tappy football is sooooooo boring. 💤 😴 💤 😴 💤 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 I thought Martin had a self proclaimed proven track record of improving players he works with? I've seen regression with Sugawara and Sulemana and nothing special from Ugochukwu and Cornet. A win is good but very hard to take any sort of morale boost from that shaky and fragile performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 3 minutes ago, Football Special said: I like James Bree, hard working player, joined us from Luton at the request of Nathan Jones which obviously didn't turn out to be such a great move for him but he gets his head down and never complains, has shown he can do a job for us when given a chance Cornet on the other hand reminded me of Ali Dia I thought Bree was great. I hope he gets his chance to compete for first choice next season when kwp leaves. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 9 minutes ago, Football Special said: Stoke had just 22% possession and yet nearly won the game, if the goal line clearance had gone in I don't think we'd have come back, would have been the ultimate Martin loss. But luck was on our side, Bree saved the day , could be a turning point? Anyone else think that losing to Stoke Reserves with most of your first team could have been curtains for RM? There comes a point when SR realises that no successor is better than what's happening at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Last nights pathetic struggle was a look into the past and the future.. Struggling to beat poor sides who didn't really try to win, if they had pressed and tried harder they likely would have done. A coaching/managerial shambles.... AGAIN!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 (edited) 1 minute ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said: Anyone else think that losing to Stoke Reserves with most of your first team could have been curtains for RM? There comes a point when SR realises that no successor is better than what's happening at the moment. Should be anyway Edited October 30 by tdmickey3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football Special Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 18 minutes ago, Thereisonlyonemickychannon said: This has to go down as one of the most disappointing saints team I have ever seen. Modern tippy tappy football is sooooooo boring. 💤 😴 💤 😴 💤 I'm sensing not too much excitement for tonight's draw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football Special Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 12 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: Last nights pathetic struggle was a look into the past and the future.. Struggling to beat poor sides who didn't really try to win, if they had pressed and tried harder they likely would have done. A coaching/managerial shambles.... AGAIN!! You and I both know that we struggled, however the stats say 78% possession which looks like complete domination 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 I miss Operation Gegenpress with Ralph 😥 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now