January Transfer Window 2025

[Dusic]

15 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Again, you're just making stuff up. We sold Lavia for about £55m, after one decent season. Livramento went for about £40m and Dibling isn't going anywhere cheaply either. We're a stepping stone club, whether we accept it or not, same as everyone else. How are Ake and Solanke getting on at Bournemouth this year?

To be fair Bmth got Solanke to sign a new contract in Sept 23 which meant they could sell on their terms (getting £65m for him) and then spending double our record fee on his replacement, who had proven himself with Porto and had a very good start to the season before he got injured.

Would say that was pretty good work from their side as a selling club. They are having an excellent season, with two young CBs - both signed for less than we paid for Vestergaard - who have at least doubled their value already.

They probably have 5 players whose selling value is at least 40m so well set overall to continue their progress.

Edited Saturday at 10:06 by Dusic

[Holmes_and_Watson]

8 hours ago, SaintJackoInHurworth said:

So, just as an update to my previous post about our January transfer business, with about a week to go, things now look as follows:

IN

• Albert Grønbæk - AM, signed on loan from Rennes for remainder of this season
• Welington - Previously with Sao Paolo, permanent signing
• Joachim Kayi Sanda - signed from Valenciennes
• Lewis Payne - returned from loan at Cheltenham
• Dom Ballard - returned from loan at Blackpool
• Cameron Bragg - returned from loan at Crawley Town
• Rumours/News:
  • Andre Garcia from Reading - bid of £2m made
  • Ollie Tanner from Cardiff linked with Saints and several other clubs

OUT

• Cornet - loan cancelled & sold by West Ham to Genoa
• Brereton-Diaz loaned to Sheff Utd
• Ronnie Edwards - loaned to QPR
• Rumours:
  • Bazunu - rumoured that he is to go on loan somewhere for the rest of the season to build up fitness as he recovers from his injury
  • Onuachu - interest from Turkey has been mentioned, but nothing concrete.
  • Dibling - wanted by other PL clubs and by RB Leipzig but hopefully won't go anywhere until at least the summer
  • Walker-Peters - a few rumours linking him with a move away but not many; may well leave for a free in the summer.
  • Ramsdale - a few vague rumours linking him with a move away

SHAKE IT ALL ABOUT

• Charles - returned from loan at Sheff Wed, then loaned back to them for improved loan fee.

Thanks for the summary posts. Always welcome.

1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Huge affection for Frannie obviously and in the last few years of his career became a good solid left back. Could be a mixed bag before that but still better bar KWP than any defender we have on the books at the moment and could never ever fault the commitment or passion for our club so he always had the fans full support rain or shine, rightly so.

Quick Simon Charlton mention as Frannie's competition.

[Whitey Grandad]

30 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Again, you're just making stuff up. We sold Lavia for about £55m, after one decent season. Livramento went for about £40m and Dibling isn't going anywhere cheaply either. We're a stepping stone club, whether we accept it or not, same as everyone else. How are Ake and Solanke getting on at Bournemouth this year?

Wasn’t Ake there on loan from Chelsea?

[Yozzman]

6 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Wasn’t Ake there on loan from Chelsea?

Initially yes but then signed for £20m.

[Matthew Le God]

8 hours ago, SaintJackoInHurworth said:

 

• Rumours:
  • Bazunu - rumoured that he is to go on loan somewhere for the rest of the season to build up fitness as he recovers from his injury

Juric confirmed that is what they are looking to do with Bazunu, so it is more than just a rumour. Can also add Juric has said they are looking to loan out Amo-Ameyaw and Taylor (press linked him to Hull City). 

[Matthew Le God]

27 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Wasn’t Ake there on loan from Chelsea?

On loan, then signed by Bournemouth for £20m

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40454293

 

Edited Saturday at 10:47 by Matthew Le God

[Matthew Le God]

 

 

[Convict Colony]

Just posting to make sure it's not just MLG who can post.

[SuperSAINT]

15 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Just posting to make sure it's not just MLG who can post.

I wanted him to start fighting with himself.

[Charlie Wayman]

5 hours ago, Pierre2 said:

Not mentioning Benali in that list is criminal!

That would be quite a stretch, more an all round  good reliable bloke rather than a class full back

[saintant]

16 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

Can we just sign a fucking player that would walk into the first team.

Shouldn't be that difficult 🙂

[Matthew Le God]

1 hour ago, SuperSAINT said:

I wanted him to start fighting with himself.

So that it ends like this?

[goodymatt]

Wonder if we offered him a pro deal or not? Scored a few goals in our academy. 

[SuperSAINT]

12 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

Wonder if we offered him a pro deal or not? Scored a few goals in our academy. 

Would presume not as he probably wouldn’t have signed for them now if we had.

 

[SaintNewForest]

2 hours ago, SuperSAINT said:

Would presume not as he probably wouldn’t have signed for them now if we had.

 

Bad decision if we didnt, imo.

[Harry_SFC]

Wonder how much the fee will be. £5 million maybe? 

[woodsaint1]

4 minutes ago, SaintNewForest said:

Bad decision if we didnt, imo.

We have Ballard (19), Dipepa (18), Akachukwu (18), MacLeod (18), Ehibhatiomhan (19), Robinson (17) and Oyekunle (18) as striking options in the youth setup who would be ahead of Pitts right now

[SuperSAINT]

56 minutes ago, SaintNewForest said:

Bad decision if we didnt, imo.

Good striker & signing for Ipswich shows that.  Good move for him — this is the time of year where decisions are made and really pleased he’s found a good move.

[Badger]

Saw something the other day in local press that a few clubs are looking at some 18 year old with Chippenham Town, previously released by Saints. 
 

Of course it happens to all clubs not just us. But it’s a shame that we don’t seem to be making more successes from our Academy. 

[Gloucester Saint]

6 minutes ago, Badger said:

Saw something the other day in local press that a few clubs are looking at some 18 year old with Chippenham Town, previously released by Saints. 
 

Of course it happens to all clubs not just us. But it’s a shame that we don’t seem to be making more successes from our Academy. 

SR have destroyed anything that was positive and worth supporting about SFC so the academy was bound to be high on their hit list. It didn’t fit with Rasmus’s model of data-driven trading of third rate players with exotic surnames. Shouldn’t be surprised after Brentford scrapped theirs but talk about not understanding the DNA of a club. Muppets.

[SuperSAINT]

15 minutes ago, Badger said:

Saw something the other day in local press that a few clubs are looking at some 18 year old with Chippenham Town, previously released by Saints. 
 

Of course it happens to all clubs not just us. But it’s a shame that we don’t seem to be making more successes from our Academy. 

Joe Andrews.  For me, if he gets picked up by them, it’s a success. 

[Badger]

8 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

SR have destroyed anything that was positive and worth supporting about SFC so the academy was bound to be high on their hit list. It didn’t fit with Rasmus’s model of data-driven trading of third rate players with exotic surnames. Shouldn’t be surprised after Brentford scrapped theirs but talk about not understanding the DNA of a club. Muppets.

Yes, said the other day I can see our clowns closing the academy. Even Rupert Lowe saw the benefit of bringing our own players through the ranks. 

[woodsaint1]

30 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

SR have destroyed anything that was positive and worth supporting about SFC so the academy was bound to be high on their hit list. It didn’t fit with Rasmus’s model of data-driven trading of third rate players with exotic surnames. Shouldn’t be surprised after Brentford scrapped theirs but talk about not understanding the DNA of a club. Muppets.

As much as SR have had a disaster, they have been committed in investing in our Academy teams. The approach at youth level has changed considerably in recent years, for all clubs. Yes you may have a Tyler Dibling that has been at the club since they were a kid and made it all the wsy to the first team, but it is now more about identifying the best 15/16/17/18 year olds at other clubs and trying to scoop them up. We've signed the likes of O'Brien Whitmarsh, Akachukwu, Dipepa, MacLeod, Traore, Kayi Sanda and Takaoka in recent years. Pretty much all of them youth internationals.

[EBS1980]

2 hours ago, Harry_SFC said:

Wonder how much the fee will be. £5 million maybe? 

Maybe a bit less and a player going to Goztepe ? 

[Gloucester Saint]

9 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said:

As much as SR have had a disaster, they have been committed in investing in our Academy teams. The approach at youth level has changed considerably in recent years, for all clubs. Yes you may have a Tyler Dibling that has been at the club since they were a kid and made it all the wsy to the first team, but it is now more about identifying the best 15/16/17/18 year olds at other clubs and trying to scoop them up. We've signed the likes of O'Brien Whitmarsh, Akachukwu, Dipepa, MacLeod, Traore, Kayi Sanda and Takaoka in recent years. Pretty much all of them youth internationals.

Which is great but where’s the pathway with all of the squad bloating again? Ryan Fraser struggles to get into squads, Edozie has done OK in Belgium but not pulled up major trees and he’s back again in the summer. Just two examples, plus the assorted stock Rasmus has signed and loaned to Goztepe. How many left backs have we got now including an injured Brazilian? And rumours of another from Reading. 

Edited Saturday at 23:26 by Gloucester Saint

[Fabrice29]

26 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Which is great but where’s the pathway with all of the squad bloating again? Ryan Fraser struggles to get into squads, Edozie has done OK in Belgium but not pulled up major trees and he’s back again in the summer. Just two examples, plus the assorted stock Rasmus has signed and loaned to Goztepe. How many left backs have we got now including an injured Brazilian? And rumours of another from Reading. 

This is the ramblings of a mad man  You cant talk about how a pathway is blocked and use a player from Reading we haven't signed, a winger who has barely played all season and another winger who isn't even in the country as examples of that. It still doesn't make sense even when you through the buzzwords Rasmus and Goztepe in. Try actually naming some young players who have proven they can handle the PL and are ready to step up that have been blocked from getting into the team instead of just shouting about things you don't like about the club and claim "PATHWAY"

[Gloucester Saint]

1 minute ago, Fabrice29 said:

This is the ramblings of a mad man  You cant talk about how a pathway is blocked and use a player from Reading we haven't signed, a winger who has barely played all season and another winger who isn't even in the country as examples of that. It still doesn't make sense even when you through the buzzwords Rasmus and Goztepe in. Try actually naming some young players who have proven they can handle the PL and are ready to step up that have been blocked from getting into the team instead of just shouting about things you don't like about the club and claim "PATHWAY"

Dibling, and I don’t know about SAA but he showed more in one cameo than Fraser showed all of this season. Meghoma gets in Brentford’s squads yet didn’t get a sniff with us. There’s no more evidence that Wellington and any other of Rasmus’s cut price clutter will be PL suitable either. At least the club has seen the development of these lads over a period and has some sense of potential. If we’re not going to use the academy other than for making the odd modest profit like Meghoma, why not actually the going rate for a first team player in that position rather than three that aren’t?

Nothing bonkers about that but then I didn’t spend months backing a manager severely out of his depth did I? Dry cleaning is ready.

[Fabrice29]

3 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Dibling, and I don’t know about SAA but he showed more in one cameo than Fraser showed all of this season. Meghoma gets in Brentford’s squads yet didn’t get a sniff with us. There’s no more evidence that Wellington and any other of Rasmus’s cut price clutter will be PL suitable either. At least the club has seen the development of these lads over a period and has some sense of potential. If we’re not going to use the academy other than for making the odd modest profit like Meghoma, why not actually the going rate for a first team player in that position rather than three that aren’t?

Nothing bonkers about that but then I didn’t spend months backing a manager severely out of his depth did I? Dry cleaning is ready.

Dibling is one of our best players, so no his development has not been blocked, obviously.

Meghoma is currently on loan at Preston and made 0 appearances for Brentford in the league so no clearly Brentford also don't see him ready for the PL and it's a year on from when we decided he wasn't ready for the Championship either, which is perfectly reasonable because A) he was 17 and B) we had the previous seasons best left back in our squad, amongst others.

And as for SAA, the kids 18, it's perfectly reasonable for 18 year olds to not be in PL squads so I'm not sure it's fair to say his pathway has been blocked. Yes he's looked good in cameo's, but he also looked physically out of his depth when he started last season, which again is perfectly reasonable. And I want to remind you we have a whole squad who were pretty competent in the Championship that haven't made the step up technically, physically or mentally, let alone trusting and assuming an 18 year to do it. I do find it quite funny that you and others on here get quite excited about "cameos" though because I've said before, this team is full of players who get better the less they actually have to play at this level. Actually stepping up and delivering at this level is a whole different magnitude and an 18 year old kid not being trusted to do that just yet isn't some massive failure of the academy. 

[Matthew Le God]

 

[Dusic]

KWP won't be signing for Galatasaray. He will go to a PL club on a free in the summer.

[Lighthouse]

11 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Which is great but where’s the pathway with all of the squad bloating again? Ryan Fraser struggles to get into squads, Edozie has done OK in Belgium but not pulled up major trees and he’s back again in the summer. Just two examples, plus the assorted stock Rasmus has signed and loaned to Goztepe. How many left backs have we got now including an injured Brazilian? And rumours of another from Reading. 

This season we have the widest, smoothest, flattest pathway in the history of the PL. If a youngster wants first team appearances it's quite simple; be better than Adam Armstrong, James Bree or Will Smallbone. If they can't do that, I would suggest they're not ready for PL football.

There was a similar conversation on here last summer, with various people suggesting Dibling would be better off at Chelsea with Jimmy Jay Morgan because the path was blocked here. Six months later, who's played more PL football?

[Fitzhugh Fella]

3 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

This season we have the widest, smoothest, flattest pathway in the history of the PL. If a youngster wants first team appearances it's quite simple; be better than Adam Armstrong, James Bree or Will Smallbone. If they can't do that, I would suggest they're not ready for PL football.

There was a similar conversation on here last summer, with various people suggesting Dibling would be better off at Chelsea with Jimmy Jay Morgan because the path was blocked here. Six months later, who's played more PL football?

JJ Morgan played 73 mins for Gillingham yesterday then got subbed

[S-Clarke]

6 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

This season we have the widest, smoothest, flattest pathway in the history of the PL. If a youngster wants first team appearances it's quite simple; be better than Adam Armstrong, James Bree or Will Smallbone. If they can't do that, I would suggest they're not ready for PL football.

There was a similar conversation on here last summer, with various people suggesting Dibling would be better off at Chelsea with Jimmy Jay Morgan because the path was blocked here. Six months later, who's played more PL football?

I'd argue that Sam AA hasn't had anywhere near enough opportunity for a club who bide it's self on providing a pathway. I don't know why. In the brief times we've seen him (back end of our last PL stint) he looked ready, but I don't know what it is.

Even if he's not ready for PL football, putting him in place of Armstrong isn't really an issue as Armstrong isn't ready and never will be ready for PL football. We'd have been better off giving him more mins in my eyes. If anything SR could look to recoup more $$$ if he looks decent, as that's their model at the end of the day.

[Saints4Prem]

1 hour ago, Dusic said:

KWP won't be signing for Galatasaray. He will go to a PL club on a free in the summer.

Watching KWP yesterday, after the game, was I the only one who thought he was waving goodbye? He went further around the pitch than anyone else clapping all the fans and made a point of handing his shirt to a fan near the halfway line. I got the feeling that a move in this window is in the offing. Although I would hate to lose him I cannot not see him staying after the end of the season so wouldn't getting some money for him now make good sense for the club?

[S-Clarke]

6 minutes ago, Saints4Prem said:

Watching KWP yesterday, after the game, was I the only one who thought he was waving goodbye? He went further around the pitch than anyone else clapping all the fans and made a point of handing his shirt to a fan near the halfway line. I got the feeling that a move in this window is in the offing. Although I would hate to lose him I cannot not see him staying after the end of the season so wouldn't getting some money for him now make good sense for the club?

This is certainly one of the rare situations in that it makes some sense to cash in on one of our best players mid-season. Like you say, he's not staying next season and will leave for free, and keeping him for the rest of this season is going to make absolutley no difference to how we do - so we might as well take what little cash we can.

He's put his shift in over the years, has been one of our better players, so even though he's associated with our worst ever team I'd say he's one of the 'few' who can still leave with their head high.

Edited 15 hours ago by S-Clarke

[saintant]

Would love some rumours that we are in for a couple of big, strong, athletic, mobile midfielders who get their foot in, know how to break up play and do the simple stuff because we are constantly getting bullied and out muscled in every game. I hope IJ is looking to address this - too many small, slight weaklings is never going to get you far in the elite league.

Edited 15 hours ago by saintant

[Harry_SFC]

2 hours ago, Dusic said:

KWP won't be signing for Galatasaray. He will go to a PL club on a free in the summer.

I wouldn't be so sure. He'll be winning silverware and getting Champions League football at Galatasaray. Also a massive club. Depends what he wants really. That or sign for a mid table Premier League team? 

[Matthew Le God]

 

 

[Mr Saints]

KWP is probably the only one I in our whole squad that I could give a toss about. It’s obviously inevitable but will seem strange seeing him in another shirt.

[Football Special]

1 hour ago, Mr Saints said:

KWP is probably the only one I in our whole squad that I could give a toss about. It’s obviously inevitable but will seem strange seeing him in another shirt.

Fernandes as well, he's an excellent player putting effort in 

Edited 11 hours ago by Football Special

[pimpin4rizeal]

On 25/01/2025 at 09:49, Lighthouse said:

Again, you're just making stuff up. We sold Lavia for about £55m, after one decent season. Livramento went for about £40m and Dibling isn't going anywhere cheaply either. We're a stepping stone club, whether we accept it or not, same as everyone else. How are Ake and Solanke getting on at Bournemouth this year?

Your consoling yourself with transfer fees/and making profit again 

With us it hardly even matters what price we get as even if we sold dibling for 200 mil we would just go back shopping in the 10-20 range with the money, as dusic pointed out at least when Bournemouth sold solanke they went and invested in a 40m striker .

I wouldn’t mind so much if when we sold  our best players it was with a plan to strengthen us on the pitch but it isn’t .. we simply go straight back to bargain buying in the 10-20 range again rinse and repeat .

if you really don’t agree that we are the most unambitious club in the league ask yourself this ? If us and another prem league  club both go for a player at the start of the window name one club that would lose out to us ?

Edited 13 hours ago by pimpin4rizeal

[saintant]

1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

 

What does this mean?

[Matthew Le God]

 

 

[obelisk]

18 minutes ago, saintant said:

What does this mean?

Offer for 7-8m EUR. Saints want 13 but will think about 10.

[Dusic]

11 minutes ago, obelisk said:

Offer for 7-8m EUR. Saints want 13 but will think about 10.

The accuracy level of the Turkish transfer reports is somewhere between 0.0% and 0.1%.

There is no scenario where Galatasaray drop £10m on a player who they could agree a pre-contract with to sign in 6mths for free.

[Oldandtired]

16 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

Try actually naming some young players who have proven they can handle the PL and are ready to step up that have been blocked from getting into the team instead of just shouting about things you don't like about the club and claim "PATHWAY"

Most of the senior first team squad have proved they can’t handle the PL this season, so yes in my opinion they are blocking others from getting into the team. We have nothing to lose by giving others a chance.

[Weston Super Saint]

3 hours ago, Oldandtired said:

Most of the senior first team squad have proved they can’t handle the PL this season, so yes in my opinion they are blocking others from getting into the team. We have nothing to lose by giving others a chance.

They may be shit, but it's not their fault they're being picked.  That doesn't make them 'blockers'. it just means that in the opinion of whoever is picking the team, the other players we have simply aren't as good.

[Matthew Le God]

3 hours ago, Oldandtired said:

Most of the senior first team squad have proved they can’t handle the PL this season, so yes in my opinion they are blocking others from getting into the team. We have nothing to lose by giving others a chance.

Which others are being blocked and are at PL ability level? Because I don't think any of them are at a level even worth giving them a go yet. They aren't ready for the Premier League. Amo-Ameyaw is the only one close enough and even then a Championship loan of regular minutes in a competitive team would benefit him more ahead of next season.

Edited 8 hours ago by Matthew Le God

[Turkish]

4 hours ago, Dusic said:

The accuracy level of the Turkish transfer reports is somewhere between 0.0% and 0.1%.

There is no scenario where Galatasaray drop £10m on a player who they could agree a pre-contract with to sign in 6mths for free.

The CoT has 100% hit rate you naysayer!

[Costa del Solent]

8 hours ago, Saints4Prem said:

Watching KWP yesterday, after the game, was I the only one who thought he was waving goodbye? He went further around the pitch than anyone else clapping all the fans and made a point of handing his shirt to a fan near the halfway line. I got the feeling that a move in this window is in the offing. Although I would hate to lose him I cannot not see him staying after the end of the season so wouldn't getting some money for him now make good sense for the club?

Yes, I said as much to matey sat next to me. ‘That looks like a goodbye, no?’