January Transfer Window 2025

[Charlie Wayman]

15 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

Pretty sure Taylor was signed with the idea that both Manning and/or KWP were going to leave and when neither materialised we found ourselves with more left backs than expected. Taylor became the victim of the club trying to be proactive. 

Would have been simple enough to have asked them first though.

[Chez]

8 hours ago, EBS1980 said:

No way that’s true. You don’t spend £15M on a player to give a 75% sell on fee lol. Talking selling for £60M plus just to break even. 
 

25% sell on fee on profit made maybe 

Sure seems high, but City dont like getting their young talent away, so who knows. That said, any sell on percentage would be on profit not total. 

[Fabrice29]

49 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Would have been simple enough to have asked them first though.

Fuck me, I think you’ve solved football. Just ask all the players on one day and everyone can just crack on with their lives after. 

[Master Bates]

4 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

I think you’ve taken that to heart a bit hun. Anyway here’s your info for this one, from 6pm so you can pop it back up now.
 

 

Clearly wasn't imminent.

[goodymatt]

 

[goodymatt]

Looks like we are losing one of our best songs! He’s decent a championship level, so this is a shame.

[skintsaint]

9 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

Looks like we are losing one of our best songs! He’s decent a championship level, so this is a shame.

another £6m or so incoming then in the summer.

[Chez]

27 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

 

I know he's our player and we can do what we please, but if this is true, I'd be a bit annoyed if I was Wednesday and Saints changed the goalposts/requested more money half way through the loan. Either we want him back (to play or provide cover) or not. Has this happened before (requiring a larger lopan fee)? I know players have been recalled and sent elsewhere (or sold) but thats usually because the first loan wasn't working out.    

[Bob60]

6 minutes ago, Chez said:

I know he's our player and we can do what we please, but if this is true, I'd be a bit annoyed if I was Wednesday and Saints changed the goalposts/requested more money half way through the loan. Either we want him back (to play or provide cover) or not. Has this happened before (requiring a larger lopan fee)? I know players have been recalled and sent elsewhere (or sold) but thats usually because the first loan wasn't working out.    

Think it's more a case of us not knowing at the time if Chelsea would recall big Les so we had to activate the recall just in case. 

Now Chelsea seem happier he can go back and we ask the going rate.

Edited 10 hours ago by Bob60

[LeBizzier69]

36 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

Looks like we are losing one of our only songs! He’s decent a championship level, so this is a shame.

Corrected for you.

[Chez]

39 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

Looks like we are losing one of our best songs! He’s decent a championship level, so this is a shame.

He doesnt fancy another season in the championship? If this is true, then the rumours that he was still on £70k a week in the championship were utter bollocks. No way he leaves early for Besiktas - who aint paying him that.

Is this a sales advert placed by SFC or his agent?

Once we moved him back into a regular midfield role, he was very effective for us in the championship run in. He is extremely good at holding the ball up when opponents are tight to him, allowing others a little more time to move into space. He provided that `bravery' that WGS and the like want - a willingness to receive the  ball in tight spaces and not just pass it straight back or flick in on. The only problem is that he's not really a centre midfielder. He doesn't cover the ground quick enough defensively.  He does make interceptoons and put a foot in, but I am not sure he gets tight to pponents like they do to him. 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by Chez

[Chez]

2 minutes ago, Bob60 said:

Think it's more a case of us not knowing at the time if Chelsea would recall big Les so we had to activate the recall just in case. 

Now Chelsea seem happier he can go back and we ask the going rate.

I see. Makes sense...except the going rate (half way through a loan) seem to be changing. That's the bit that seems unusual.

[S-Clarke]

55 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

Looks like we are losing one of our best songs! He’s decent a championship level, so this is a shame.

If we can get our money back on him then happy days.

He was ok at the level below, but not really spectacular. I wouldn't lose any sleep over this. There are plenty of better players than Aribo out there.

[Ralph Fastenbüttl]

15 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

If we can get our money back on him then happy days.

He was ok at the level below, but not really spectacular. I wouldn't lose any sleep over this. There are plenty of better players than Aribo out there.

One of the many, many players who will probably look instantly better the moment they step away from the drudgery of our club. Yet another example of us failing to get the best, or even just the 'not worst', out of someone.

[goodymatt]

Daily Mail suggesting that Tyler would be open to a move abroad.

[Chez]

23 minutes ago, Ralph Fastenbüttl said:

One of the many, many players who will probably look instantly better the moment they step away from the drudgery of our club. Yet another example of us failing to get the best, or even just the 'not worst', out of someone.

I think we have seen both the best and worst of Aribo while he has been with us. At the levels we have played, I don't think there is more to get from him,  but perhaps some of the good things are underapreciated. 

[Chez]

25 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

Daily Mail suggesting that Tyler would be open to a move abroad.

the Grundian suggests Chelsea, Tottenham, Aston Villa, Liverpool or Leipzig
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/jan/23/football-transfer-rumours-race-tyler-dibling-southampton-five-way-race-january

 

[goodymatt]

Just now, Chez said:

the Grundian suggests Chelsea, Tottenham, Aston Villa, Liverpool or Leipzig
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/jan/23/football-transfer-rumours-race-tyler-dibling-southampton-five-way-race-january

 

We’ve also seen interest from Newcastle and United too. Absolutely zero chance of him being here next season, such a shame that our academy talent is only going to play one season for us. The number of teams interested should at least command a decent fee. 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

33 minutes ago, Ralph Fastenbüttl said:

One of the many, many players who will probably look instantly better the moment they step away from the drudgery of our club. Yet another example of us failing to get the best, or even just the 'not worst', out of someone.

Not for me. Another one of the squad we should have upgraded over the summer. His first season with us as a PL player was a sign he wasn't going to make the step up. 

[goodymatt]

Poor source admittedly… but we don’t have many incoming links, so there!

[Chez]

3 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

Poor source admittedly… but we don’t have many incoming links, so there!

If this goal is anything to go by, he might make a reasonable Dibling replacement.

 

[Fitzhugh Fella]

1 hour ago, S-Clarke said:

If we can get our money back on him then happy days.

He was ok at the level below, but not really spectacular. I wouldn't lose any sleep over this. There are plenty of better players than Aribo out there.

Yea but can our scouting team find them?

[benjii]

Looks like a potential Tella replacement.

Or

Could be the English Glenn Helder.

[Chez]

1 hour ago, goodymatt said:

We’ve also seen interest from Newcastle and United too. Absolutely zero chance of him being here next season, such a shame that our academy talent is only going to play one season for us. The number of teams interested should at least command a decent fee. 

Yep, a real shame. He's one of the few players that gets you out of your seat. You just wonder if we had stayed up, if both he and the team might have grown together and who knows where that might have ended. There are lots of noises about leaving etc. (and relegation makes that seem pretty certain), but that's just the agent doing his job. In the end, if we stayed up and then paid him the kings ransom his agent would nto doubt ask for, he may well have stayed.  

[Convict Colony]

Honestly if we were in the premier league next season i would definitely think dibbling would stay, purely for the playing time and knowing the club etc, give him time to develop in a "safe space".

So its our own fault he will leave, good luck to the lad.

[Obstacle1]

1 hour ago, Convict Colony said:

Honestly if we were in the premier league next season i would definitely think dibbling would stay, purely for the playing time and knowing the club etc, give him time to develop in a "safe space".

So its our own fault he will leave, good luck to the lad.

I'm not totally convinced he would have stayed if we narrowly escaped relegation but at least we would have had a chance of keeping him if this season wasn't such a colossal fuck up.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

28 minutes ago, Obstacle1 said:

I'm not totally convinced he would have stayed if we narrowly escaped relegation but at least we would have had a chance of keeping him if this season wasn't such a colossal fuck up.

If he does go, where is he going to go that will guarantee him regular minutes? Am not suggesting that I think he will stay, but a season in the Championship wouldn't be the worst thing he could do. 

[Matthew Le God]

Goztepe just announced another Brazilian signing. Potentially might join Saints in the future if he impresses.

 

 

[BARCELONASAINT]

I have posted before that i have a very good friend that is close to the Dibling family and that he firmly believes from what he has been told that both Tyler and his parents want him to stay at Saints and sign a new contract. The issue appears to be the agent who is gunning for a big pay day.

Saints are under no pressure to sell, Tyler knows he is starting virtually every game for Saints (which is what he wants). He is a very quiet young man that is very close to his family and friends. Even if we go down a season in the Championship will not harm him, to be honest he is likely to develop even more.

Keep the faith that he might just stay beyond this season! 

[redkeith]

I think that the agent is being a dick here. 

Tyler is injured ATM, fairly minor this  time but another time  could have been career ending . He is on peanuts currently,  a better contract will give Tyler more security, will give the agent a cut and will in no way impact  when he is sold. 

Other than Van Dyke (tapping up) and Morgan ( too many others sold that window ), I can't think of another player that Saints have ever made to stay.

 

[Charlie Wayman]

5 hours ago, goodymatt said:

We’ve also seen interest from Newcastle and United too. Absolutely zero chance of him being here next season, such a shame that our academy talent is only going to play one season for us. The number of teams interested should at least command a decent fee. 

t'was always thus sadly…  Bale, Walcott, Surman, Shearer etc

[Dusic]

Dibling is too good to waste a season getting smashed to bits in the Championship - it will serve him no purpose.

He will get enough game time at a good club because he is a really good player. We are overplaying him anyway because our other attackers are so poor.

[Chez]

1 hour ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

If he does go, where is he going to go that will guarantee him regular minutes? Am not suggesting that I think he will stay, but a season in the Championship wouldn't be the worst thing he could do. 

almost anywhere. A season in the championship is going to be seen as a wasted season. It's never going to happen...unless our valuation is simply off the charts...but even then there are going to be clubs signing him to stop another getting him.

[Convict Colony]

58 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

I have posted before that i have a very good friend that is close to the Dibling family and that he firmly believes from what he has been told that both Tyler and his parents want him to stay at Saints and sign a new contract. The issue appears to be the agent who is gunning for a big pay day.

Saints are under no pressure to sell, Tyler knows he is starting virtually every game for Saints (which is what he wants). He is a very quiet young man that is very close to his family and friends. Even if we go down a season in the Championship will not harm him, to be honest he is likely to develop even more.

Keep the faith that he might just stay beyond this season! 

never hurt jack grealish

[Fabrice29]

1 hour ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

If he does go, where is he going to go that will guarantee him regular minutes? Am not suggesting that I think he will stay, but a season in the Championship wouldn't be the worst thing he could do. 

Totally agree. Best thing for him is to be playing regularly in the prem when he’s 20 and his best way to do that is to get us back up next season. No offence to him either because he’d clearly improve in a better team but he’s not producing the goals and assists that would get him into a top teams first team right now. Stay here, deliver some numbers and the worlds his oyster when he’s 21. No issue with the agent using the window to test the nerve of the club in the transfer window and maybe get some extra money for the kid either. 

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

I have posted before that i have a very good friend that is close to the Dibling family and that he firmly believes from what he has been told that both Tyler and his parents want him to stay at Saints and sign a new contract. The issue appears to be the agent who is gunning for a big pay day.

Saints are under no pressure to sell, Tyler knows he is starting virtually every game for Saints (which is what he wants). He is a very quiet young man that is very close to his family and friends. Even if we go down a season in the Championship will not harm him, to be honest he is likely to develop even more.

Keep the faith that he might just stay beyond this season! 

You may prove me wrong but absolutely no chance imo. 

[ErwinK1961]

1 hour ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

I have posted before that i have a very good friend that is close to the Dibling family and that he firmly believes from what he has been told that both Tyler and his parents want him to stay at Saints and sign a new contract. The issue appears to be the agent who is gunning for a big pay day.

Saints are under no pressure to sell, Tyler knows he is starting virtually every game for Saints (which is what he wants). He is a very quiet young man that is very close to his family and friends. Even if we go down a season in the Championship will not harm him, to be honest he is likely to develop even more.

Keep the faith that he might just stay beyond this season! 

Not disputing your links to Tyler but he ultimately is the one who decides whether he stays or goes. If he wants to stay then he’ll stay. If he moves it won’t be because his agent made him, it’ll be because he wants to.

If he was that keen to stay, he’d have signed a new deal by now.

[Fabrice29]

Just now, ErwinK1961 said:

Not disputing your links to Tyler but he ultimately is the one who decides whether he stays or goes. If he wants to stay then he’ll stay. If he moves it won’t be because his agent made him, it’ll be because he wants to.

If he was that keen to stay, he’d have signed a new deal by now.

That’s not necessarily true. His agent is paid to work on behalf of Tyler and might have been instructed to get the best deal possible for him here, not to sign a new deal as quickly as possible. Any agent worth his salt is using the transfer window to negotiate. 

[Baird of the land]

14 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

I think you’ve taken that to heart a bit hun. Anyway here’s your info for this one, from 6pm so you can pop it back up now.
 

 

If that’s true I’ll be really annoyed

Was looking forward to him being back with us

plus I doubt using loan recall merely to milk extra money out of Wednesday will have endeared the player to us.

Edited 2 hours ago by Baird of the land

[Fabrice29]

Just now, Baird of the land said:

If that’s true I’ll be really.

Was looking forward to him being back with us

plus I doubt using loan recall merely to milk extra money out of Wednesday will have endeared the player to us.

Or the manager we supposedly want to get in the summer. 

[ErwinK1961]

1 minute ago, Fabrice29 said:

That’s not necessarily true. His agent is paid to work on behalf of Tyler and might have been instructed to get the best deal possible for him here, not to sign a new deal as quickly as possible. Any agent worth his salt is using the transfer window to negotiate. 

I was responding to the ‘Tyler wants to stay, but his agent wants him to move for a fat payday’ mantra.

If he wants to stay that badly then in my opinion he’d have signed a deal by now. The transfer window doesn’t really mean much either, we ain’t selling him in January regardless.

[Wade Garrett]

1 hour ago, redkeith said:

I think that the agent is being a dick here. 

Tyler is injured ATM, fairly minor this  time but another time  could have been career ending . He is on peanuts currently,  a better contract will give Tyler more security, will give the agent a cut and will in no way impact  when he is sold. 

Other than Van Dyke (tapping up) and Morgan ( too many others sold that window ), I can't think of another player that Saints have ever made to stay.

 

The agent has absolutely nothing whatsoever with whether the player chooses to sign a new contract or not.  He simply does not have that authority.

[Wade Garrett]

31 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Dibling is too good to waste a season getting smashed to bits in the Championship - it will serve him no purpose.

He will get enough game time at a good club because he is a really good player. We are overplaying him anyway because our other attackers are so poor.

Didn’t do Grealish a lot of harm.

[Chez]

1 hour ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

I have posted before that i have a very good friend that is close to the Dibling family and that he firmly believes from what he has been told that both Tyler and his parents want him to stay at Saints and sign a new contract. The issue appears to be the agent who is gunning for a big pay day.

If he wants to stay he will stay. An agent can't force a move. He will be doing what any agent would do - create an alternative option that helps him get the best deal possible either from SFC or elsewhere. The Dibling family will be fully aware of his actions. This story about the Dibling family being at loggerheads with the agent is probably part of the plan to ensure the agent is the bad guy not the player. 

[Oh no Mick Mills]

1 hour ago, Dusic said:

Dibling is too good to waste a season getting smashed to bits in the Championship - it will serve him no purpose.

He will get enough game time at a good club because he is a really good player. We are overplaying him anyway because our other attackers are so poor.

Jack Grealish spent a few seasons in the Championship with Villa. Did him no harm.

Same as Lallana for us back in the day.

[SuperSAINT]

2 minutes ago, Oh no Mick Mills said:

Jack Grealish spent a few seasons in the Championship with Villa. Did him no harm.

Same as Lallana for us back in the day.

Both true, but the game is so different now & the demand for young English players is even higher.

Tyler may well want to stay, but I've seen lots of players have their minds changed when a summer rolls around.

[Dusic]

1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said:

Didn’t do Grealish a lot of harm.

 

7 minutes ago, Oh no Mick Mills said:

Jack Grealish spent a few seasons in the Championship with Villa. Did him no harm.

Same as Lallana for us back in the day.

Dibling is different level to what Grealish was aged 18.

Lallana hadn't played in the PL until he was promoted there so totally different.

Edited 1 hour ago by Dusic

[SuperSAINT]

1 minute ago, Dusic said:

 

Dibling is different level to what Grealish was aged 18.

Another thing about this - The Saints FC relegation algorithm probably needs a £50m player to be sold.

[Turkish]

2 hours ago, Dusic said:

Dibling is too good to waste a season getting smashed to bits in the Championship - it will serve him no purpose.

He will get enough game time at a good club because he is a really good player. We are overplaying him anyway because our other attackers are so poor.

Another myth. If it’s so hard in the championship with players getting smashed around why do physically smaller players like Adam Armstrong and Flynn Downes look like world beaters at that level then barely get a kick on the premier league?

the difference is the defenders are just as strong and physical in both leagues but premier league they are quicker in mind and body, they smash you and they can play. 

[Challenger]

28 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

Another thing about this - The Saints FC relegation algorithm probably needs a £50m player to be sold.

£25m in the bank and £25m to spend on 10 crap players