January Transfer Window 2025

[Sunglasses Ron]

12 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

Don’t usually go in for slating players -but- BBD this year has got to be right up there with the biggest disappointments  I’ve seen. Came with a big rep. Scored a decent goal v Lazio. Got that toon sent off Day one and then - nothing - literally nothing.
He does not get near this squad but early season my impression was : Stands as still as he can at Left wing. If passed the ball will only pass it back or pass it infield. Has never knowingly gone forwards. Not seen him shoot. Not seen him attempt an offensive pass, god forbid a forward header. He may attempt to amble backwards in an impersonation of someone attempting to regain possession and it’s as if going past his man was made clear to him it’s illegal. His pace is glacial as are his reactions and ability to shield the ball. He cannot tackle. He looks hefty but he’s lightweight.  He cannot shoot. That lazio goal was a mirage. His eye for a goal is back in Chile somewhere I reckon. His movement, to which I’ve previously alluded to makes wooden mannequins look eerily vivacious. If he was born in the Middle Ages Michelangelo wouldn’t need to carve a giant lump of marble to depict him. Bit of white paint jobs a good un. Spends more time stroking his hair and beard than stroking the ball around the football pitch. And I had such high hopes for him. Such a shame. I’m gutted really. Nice guy in person as well. 
NB m. and we dumped Sam E and left Sulemana to rot so that he could do zero squared. Boggled mind. Hope he does alright at Sheff Utd.

Don’t forget that shocking miss by him at Newcastle shortly after the red card.

Mad to think that it probably cost us half our current points total as things stand!

[malcolm waldron]

5 hours ago, goodymatt said:

Help me out here as I'm not too sure how these complicated deals play out - does that mean we pay them £10 mill at the end of the season to take him off our hands (and significantly reduce the catering bill at Staplewood in the process)?  

[FarehamSaintJames]

West Ham allegedly bid £57m plus for Jhon Duran of Aston Villa. Phenomenal money being thrown about!

[Hatch]

Having seen him play this season I am not 100% certain that Sheff Utd will trigger that option to buy, even if we reduce to £1m 

[Wade Garrett]

54 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

West Ham allegedly bid £57m plus for Jhon Duran of Aston Villa. Phenomenal money being thrown about!

Bet Danny Ings is pleased about that.  

[Saint Fan CaM]

41 minutes ago, Hatch said:

Having seen him play this season I am not 100% certain that Sheff Utd will trigger that option to buy, even if we reduce to £1m 

Absolutely. Even if he scores a hatful for them (unlikely) and they’re promoted, they’ll know exactly what will happen in the Prem to him and they’ll have no obligation to retain him so he’ll be stinking out Staplewoo while we offer him up. Then we’ll get to the end of the summer with no interest at our price point and he’ll be back in our Championship squad.

[AlexLaw76]

1 hour ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

West Ham allegedly bid £57m plus for Jhon Duran of Aston Villa. Phenomenal money being thrown about!

Probably money well spent

[davefizzy14]

A bit like Cornet, for some reason it hasn't worked out here for BBD, good luck to him out on loan 👍

[Chez]

52 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Absolutely. Even if he scores a hatful for them (unlikely) and they’re promoted, they’ll know exactly what will happen in the Prem to him and they’ll have no obligation to retain him so he’ll be stinking out Staplewoo while we offer him up. Then we’ll get to the end of the summer with no interest at our price point and he’ll be back in our Championship squad.

How is it that Man City can make us buy THB on promotion but we can't make Sheffield United do the same here?  They clearly like him and want him. Why not ask them to put their money where their mouth is? We save some money on wages, sure, but in essence, we are doing them a favour by loaning him to them. 

[Chez]

1 hour ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

West Ham allegedly bid £57m plus for Jhon Duran of Aston Villa. Phenomenal money being thrown about!

West Ham have failed with several striker signings, but they keep trying, keep spending to get it right. Fair play to them. How on earth can they afford £57m though?

[johnnyboy]

2 minutes ago, Chez said:

we are doing them a favour by loaning him to them. 

You sure about that !!😁😁🤪

[Teamsaint1]

5 minutes ago, Chez said:

How is it that Man City can make us buy THB on promotion but we can't make Sheffield United do the same here?  They clearly like him and want him. Why not ask them to put their money where their mouth is? We save some money on wages, sure, but in essence, we are doing them a favour by loaning him to them. 

They will be paying a loan fee presumably. 

[Dusic]

West Ham making a very public bid for a striker they have no chance of signing? Surely not.

[Gloucester Saint]

6 minutes ago, Dusic said:

West Ham making a very public bid for a striker they have no chance of signing? Surely not.

Awaiting the Jack Sullivan Instagram update.

[CB Fry]

1 hour ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Absolutely. Even if he scores a hatful for them (unlikely) and they’re promoted, they’ll know exactly what will happen in the Prem to him and they’ll have no obligation to retain him so he’ll be stinking out Staplewoo while we offer him up. Then we’ll get to the end of the summer with no interest at our price point and he’ll be back in our Championship squad.

.....but on exactly those assumptions he could score a hatful for us in the Championship next season.

[disconnect]

18 minutes ago, Chez said:

West Ham have failed with several striker signings, but they keep trying, keep spending to get it right. Fair play to them. How on earth can they afford £57m though?

Essentially free tourist trap stadium getting them tonnes of extra revenue every season

Edited Monday at 18:42 by disconnect

[Fabrice29]

1 hour ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Absolutely. Even if he scores a hatful for them (unlikely) and they’re promoted, they’ll know exactly what will happen in the Prem to him and they’ll have no obligation to retain him so he’ll be stinking out Staplewoo while we offer him up. Then we’ll get to the end of the summer with no interest at our price point and he’ll be back in our Championship squad.

He's been rubbish for us but are you deliberately just forgetting he was quite good for them last season in this league? Or do you genuinely believe that Sheffield United will just base their entire opinion on him at this level based on these few months and completely ignore him playing for them at this level.

[goodymatt]

[Saint Fan CaM]

1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

.....but on exactly those assumptions he could score a hatful for us in the Championship next season.

That’s a possibility, but I doubt it…his day is done otherwise why loan him out?

48 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

He's been rubbish for us but are you deliberately just forgetting he was quite good for them last season in this league? Or do you genuinely believe that Sheffield United will just base their entire opinion on him at this level based on these few months and completely ignore him playing for them at this level.

One season of mediocrity - not sure that’s going to do it, otherwise why not just buy the player now if they’re that certain? Fact is there’s a big question mark over his ability to perform in the Prem (or indeed after a very poor season with us, there’s a case to be slightly pessimistic about his ability to perform at Championship level).

[Fabrice29]

27 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

That’s a possibility, but I doubt it…his day is done otherwise why loan him out?

One season of mediocrity - not sure that’s going to do it, otherwise why not just buy the player now if they’re that certain? Fact is there’s a big question mark over his ability to perform in the Prem (or indeed after a very poor season with us, there’s a case to be slightly pessimistic about his ability to perform at Championship level).

Yes it's a mystery as to why they would want to wait to find out if they are in a more lucrative league before splashing out £10 million or whatever they end up spending in the summer. Lets see how he gets on first but I can assure you if we were lucky enough to have a striker who scored 6 goals in 14 games for us the rest of this season, then we loaned him in the championship next year and he helped us get promoted and we had an option to sign him permanently I'd challenge you not to think it's a no brainer.

Edited Monday at 20:11 by Fabrice29

[Saint Fan CaM]

2 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Yes it's a mystery as to why they would want to wait to find out if their in a more lucrative league before splashing out £10 million or whatever they end up spending in the summer. Lets see how he gets on first but I can assure you if we were lucky enough to have a striker who scored 6 goals in 14 games for us the rest of this season, then we loaned him in the championship next year and he helped us get promoted and we had an option to sign him permanently I'd challenge you not to think it's a no brainer.

Hang on, that’s exactly what we did do - and he was shit.

[CB Fry]

26 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

That’s a possibility, but I doubt it…his day is done otherwise why loan him out?

One season of mediocrity - not sure that’s going to do it, otherwise why not just buy the player now if they’re that certain? Fact is there’s a big question mark over his ability to perform in the Prem (or indeed after a very poor season with us, there’s a case to be slightly pessimistic about his ability to perform at Championship level).

If I'm honest I can't work out what point you're trying to make, apart from making out we are somehow the victims or been done over by another club, which we're not and we haven't been.

From what I can see it's win win for all involved now.

We don't want him, they do. He can score goals in the Championship and that can to build his confidence back up. If he does that he's quite likely to get a permanent transfer thete or, if they decide not to, we end up with a player with proven Championship goalscoring pedigree back with us in the Championship next season. If he doesn't stay with us we could flog him to some other Championship side.

I'm not really sure what else you wanted to happen in this scenario.

[Fabrice29]

8 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Hang on, that’s exactly what we did do - and he was shit.

Umm, it's not, so you might want to read that again and also maybe try and understand the idea that someone being shit for us for 10 games this season probably isn't the conclusive verdict on them as a player for some other teams. But anyway, this is all hypothetical ffs  

Edited Monday at 20:21 by Fabrice29

[Convict Colony]

1 hour ago, Dusic said:

West Ham making a very public bid for a striker they have no chance of signing? Surely not.

Every year they go for the "we tried" award

[Saint Fan CaM]

4 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

If I'm honest I can't work out what point you're trying to make, apart from making out we are somehow the victims or been done over by another club, which we're not and we haven't been.

From what I can see it's win win for all involved now.

We don't want him, they do. He can score goals in the Championship and that can to build his confidence back up. If he does that he's quite likely to get a permanent transfer thete or, if they decide not to, we end up with a player with proven Championship goalscoring pedigree back with us in the Championship next season. If he doesn't stay with us we could flog him to some other Championship side.

I'm not really sure what else you wanted to happen in this scenario.

I’m delighted he’s gone. The point I originally made (several posts ago) was that there’s little guarantee that they’ll retain him going into the Prem if they get promotion. He’ll end up back with us which would be terrible for us and indeed the player. Let’s hope for all parties it all works out and he’s not still bloating the squad at the end of the summer window.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

2 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Every year they go for the "we tried" award

And more often than not we just about pip them to it

[Suhari]

41 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

He really was not good for us. Though I do wonder how much our obvious lack of fitness, and plodding RussBall contributed.

He is a better player than he showed us.

[pimpin4rizeal]

6 hours ago, Badger said:

Agree, it’s strange how that has worked out. Of the signings made I thought he was worth the risk for the fee given his scoring record at Sheff Utd last season.  

Archer though, I’m still scratching my head about.

As for BBD I expect he’ll be back in the summer. If Sheff Utd go up, they’ll probably look to upgrade, and if they don’t then can’t see them buying him. The £10m looks like a bit of a sweetener or padding on the deal. 

Don’t think russball helped. the formation kind of had him out too wide and isolated the striker , also he’s not technically great so the passing style didn’t really suit .. again though he didn’t really have that many opportunities before getting dropped . Not gonna argue against that though he was poor 

tbh we should have a really strong championship side next season without even having to make  many signings .. the likes of him and AA even are 20 a season strikers although I’d rather keep the likes of kamsldeen onuachu and archer 

Edited Monday at 20:38 by pimpin4rizeal

[pimpin4rizeal]

5 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

I wouldn't say he ever came with a big rep, maybe people were a little optimistic based on the handful of goals he scored for Sheff U, but he didn't have a big rep and was ultimately an almighty flop in Spain.

My personal view on BBD is that he was the wrong player for us, he didn't suit a passing style which is why he always looked like a rabbit in headlights. Awful touch and awful mobility which meant he was pretty much null and void in a team which needed legs to stretch the game, in the occasional moments we decided to put the ball forward. He will be a good player at the right club, but that wasn't us. 

The decision making in the summer was bizarre though, I'm not sure what we expect as a club by signing the two forwards from the 20th team from the previous year.

Same like archer I think he’s a lot better then we have really seen but we are not playing to his strengths ..he seems a good finisher and pacy but tends to go missing in games as the ball doesn’t stick up top with him ,, think if you had him paired with Paul who he could play off he would be a lot better .. atm onuachu gives the most to our side as a striker as he’s the one that can hold the ball up and bring others into play he doesn’t go missing 

[Long Shot]

If I had a choice who to pick vs Newcastle, Brereton or Armstrong I would go for the former. Armstrong has been given plenty of chances but not Brereton. Just look how suddenly Sulemana has come into his own. 
sometimes players just have to be given a hand around the shoulders and a bit of a boost by a manager. 

[Dark Munster]

40 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

I’m delighted he’s gone. The point I originally made (several posts ago) was that there’s little guarantee that they’ll retain him going into the Prem if they get promotion. He’ll end up back with us which would be terrible for us and indeed the player. Let’s hope for all parties it all works out and he’s not still bloating the squad at the end of the summer window.

He'll also be with us next season if we don't loan him out. At least this way he'll get some game time in the league we'll be playing in, and there's a chance they may even buy him if he does well with them this season. I can't see a downside to the loan.

[CB Fry]

47 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

I’m delighted he’s gone. The point I originally made (several posts ago) was that there’s little guarantee that they’ll retain him going into the Prem if they get promotion. He’ll end up back with us which would be terrible for us and indeed the player. Let’s hope for all parties it all works out and he’s not still bloating the squad at the end of the summer window.

Well, yeah. I'm still not sure what you are complaining about over the outcome we have got to. Even the timing of the move (we haven't had to wait until midnight on the last day) is good.

Don't loan him out because he might come back means what? Just leave him here to rot?

What weve got is all as good as we could hope for really.

Edited Monday at 21:11 by CB Fry

[LuckyNumber7]

48 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

I’m delighted he’s gone. The point I originally made (several posts ago) was that there’s little guarantee that they’ll retain him going into the Prem if they get promotion. He’ll end up back with us which would be terrible for us and indeed the player. Let’s hope for all parties it all works out and he’s not still bloating the squad at the end of the summer window.

If he does well for them the remainder of the season, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they signed him permanently given how well he did for them in the PL last season. Chris Wilder pretty much said that's the plan. Even if they don't then other clubs will be interested. No-one was paying a fee for him this month so I'm not sure what you expected the club to do. 

[Badger]

13 minutes ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

If he does well for them the remainder of the season, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they signed him permanently given how well he did for them in the PL last season. Chris Wilder pretty much said that's the plan. Even if they don't then other clubs will be interested. No-one was paying a fee for him this month so I'm not sure what you expected the club to do. 

So why haven’t we insisted on an obligation to buy if they’re promoted? If as you say that’s the acknowledged plan there might not have been too much resistance.

Perhaps we’ve been too trusting, or naive in our negotiations. 

[Chez]

1 hour ago, Badger said:

So why haven’t we insisted on an obligation to buy if they’re promoted? If as you say that’s the acknowledged plan there might not have been too much resistance.

Perhaps we’ve been too trusting, or naive in our negotiations. 

We could have insisted, but we obviously blinked first.

[Saint Fan CaM]

2 hours ago, CB Fry said:

Well, yeah. I'm still not sure what you are complaining about over the outcome we have got to. Even the timing of the move (we haven't had to wait until midnight on the last day) is good.

Don't loan him out because he might come back means what? Just leave him here to rot?

What weve got is all as good as we could hope for really.

 

2 hours ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

If he does well for them the remainder of the season, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they signed him permanently given how well he did for them in the PL last season. Chris Wilder pretty much said that's the plan. Even if they don't then other clubs will be interested. No-one was paying a fee for him this month so I'm not sure what you expected the club to do. 

I’m not saying it was a bad move or that there were other options. Of course there wouldn’t be at this stage. I just doubt he’ll do ‘well enough’ for them to want to retain him if they win promotion and in that case he’ll be back with us and any other losers from this season that we’re unable offload. This squad is damaged - I don’t want him back…

[Master Bates]

 

[goodymatt]

6 minutes ago, Master Bates said:

 

€30m… no chance!

He will go in the summer for much more than that, most likely to a PL team.

[Nolan]

God I hate this trend of random X accounts shortening and changing a statement from the original post. Removing important context.

Here's what they're repurposing.
 

 

[Marsdinho]

16 hours ago, Dusic said:

West Ham making a very public bid for a striker they have no chance of signing? Surely not.

Here's a fact for you...

Since Gold and Sullivan have been in charge of West Ham they have bought 54 stikers....22 of them have never scored for the club.

[CheshireSaint]

Adam Armstrong should be loaned out immediately. He is utterly useless. When he is named on the team sheet, you know he will produce nothing. When he comes on as sub, you know it's a waste of a place. He offers nowt. As mentioned in another post, there is an argument that BBD hasn't really been given a run in his correct position, and whilst I doubt he would have ever made it, Armstrong has had numerous chances at this level and we know he simply cannot do it. He can in the Championship so perhaps get his value up for a sale at seasons end. Keeping him until his contract expires in 2027 will just be another 2 years of him stealing a living (1 play off goal aside). Now we've freed up a loan space, get a striker in that can score at the top level. Ings for example, certainly isn't the player he was, but can anyone deny that he is still a better option that Armstrong? 

[saintant]

14 hours ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Don’t think russball helped. the formation kind of had him out too wide and isolated the striker , also he’s not technically great so the passing style didn’t really suit .. again though he didn’t really have that many opportunities before getting dropped . Not gonna argue against that though he was poor 

tbh we should have a really strong championship side next season without even having to make  many signings .. the likes of him and AA even are 20 a season strikers although I’d rather keep the likes of kamsldeen onuachu and archer 

Agree - we've already seen with Sulemana, Big Les and Tall Paul that Russball prevented us from seeing the best of players and also restricted their chances.

[waylander]

47 minutes ago, CheshireSaint said:

Adam Armstrong should be loaned out immediately. He is utterly useless. When he is named on the team sheet, you know he will produce nothing. When he comes on as sub, you know it's a waste of a place. He offers nowt. As mentioned in another post, there is an argument that BBD hasn't really been given a run in his correct position, and whilst I doubt he would have ever made it, Armstrong has had numerous chances at this level and we know he simply cannot do it. He can in the Championship so perhaps get his value up for a sale at seasons end. Keeping him until his contract expires in 2027 will just be another 2 years of him stealing a living (1 play off goal aside). Now we've freed up a loan space, get a striker in that can score at the top level. Ings for example, certainly isn't the player he was, but can anyone deny that he is still a better option that Armstrong? 

Remind me how many he scored last season

[Saint Fan CaM]

50 minutes ago, CheshireSaint said:

Adam Armstrong should be loaned out immediately. He is utterly useless. When he is named on the team sheet, you know he will produce nothing. When he comes on as sub, you know it's a waste of a place. He offers nowt. As mentioned in another post, there is an argument that BBD hasn't really been given a run in his correct position, and whilst I doubt he would have ever made it, Armstrong has had numerous chances at this level and we know he simply cannot do it. He can in the Championship so perhaps get his value up for a sale at seasons end. Keeping him until his contract expires in 2027 will just be another 2 years of him stealing a living (1 play off goal aside). Now we've freed up a loan space, get a striker in that can score at the top level. Ings for example, certainly isn't the player he was, but can anyone deny that he is still a better option that Armstrong? 

You do know that we’ll be playing Championship football next season right? 😂

It’s a big dilemma for the club - a striker that is likely not going to contribute goals in this league for the remainder of this season and has scar tissue on scar tissue so might be ineffective next season as a result - release or keep in the hope he can re-create his form next season following a torrid time in the EPL and approx. 2 years older? Its a really tough call - him or Archer?

[CheshireSaint]

6 minutes ago, waylander said:

Remind me how many he scored last season

Armstrong? The crux is Armstrong in the Premiership. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

14 hours ago, Badger said:

So why haven’t we insisted on an obligation to buy if they’re promoted? If as you say that’s the acknowledged plan there might not have been too much resistance.

Perhaps we’ve been too trusting, or naive in our negotiations. 

 

13 hours ago, Chez said:

We could have insisted, but we obviously blinked first.

Fucking hell, stop moaning. To get somebody to take him on loan is a miracle. “Blinked first” what a load of old pony. To get this dud out the door for half a season should be applauded. 

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, Nolan said:

God I hate this trend of random X accounts shortening and changing a statement from the original post. Removing important context.

Here's what they're repurposing.
 

 

if half of europe are chasing him then that surely doubles the price?

If i were him i'd consider a move to Germany done wonders for plenty of other young english players.

[shirleysfc]

17 minutes ago, Turkish said:

if half of europe are chasing him then that surely doubles the price?

If i were him i'd consider a move to Germany done wonders for plenty of other young english players.

From a footballing viewpoint I agree, but if he couldn't settle at Chelsea I'm not sure how moving to Germany would work out for him.

[SambaMaverick]

1 minute ago, shirleysfc said:

From a footballing viewpoint I agree, but if he couldn't settle at Chelsea I'm not sure how moving to Germany would work out for him.

He was only, what, like 15 or 16 at the time? It's not natural to move away that early, I think he'd be fine now.

[miserableoldgit]

Somebody told me the other day (no idea if true) that Tyler is Autistic and he isn't happy being away from his normal surroundings....hence the short stay at Chelsea.