January Transfer Window 2025

[Badger]

2 hours ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Just don't think Smallbone has the necessary attriubutes for a PL midfielder in this day and age. Carrick, I think could put a tackle in and seemed to have a decent engine. Smallbone just seems lightweight and games sort of pass him by. Maybe he would be better alongside a Jimmy Case type player. 

The whole team would be better with a Jimmy Case type player. 
 

The challenge is to find one, and one that we can afford. 

[Chez]

2 hours ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Just don't think Smallbone has the necessary attriubutes for a PL midfielder in this day and age. Carrick, I think could put a tackle in and seemed to have a decent engine. Smallbone just seems lightweight and games sort of pass him by. Maybe he would be better alongside a Jimmy Case type player. 

Games certainly past him by earlier in his career when he played for us in the Prem. He was a total non entity in the more forward role. I was very worried we would be relying on him in the championship. He was asked to play a different game and when dominating possession his passing was a real asset, Without the ball he just doesn't have much of an impact on proceedings. Not sure he deserves the slating on the United match day thread, but fans need someone to blame i suppose. 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

4 minutes ago, Chez said:

Games certainly past him by earlier in his career when he played for us in the Prem. He was a total non entity in the more forward role. I was very worried we would be relying on him in the championship. He was asked to play a different game and when dominating possession his passing was a real asset, Without the ball he just doesn't have much of an impact on proceedings. Not sure he deserves the slating on the United match day thread, but fans need someone to blame i suppose. 

It just highlights how bad our decision making as a club as been this season. Far too loyal to players last season who we all knew would struggle this season. 

[Southner]

Anyone hear Talksport Wednesday night? Goldstein was suggesting that West Ham are good at signing players who have failed at previous clubs, such as Lingard, amongst others, and believed JWP to be in that bracket. Baffling. 

[sambosa75]

10 hours ago, Badger said:

The whole team would be better with a Jimmy Case type player. 
 

The challenge is to find one, and one that we can afford. 

I've personally thought for a while bringing Jordan Henderson back to the prem would be a masterstroke for a club like us.  His leadership would do wonders for our team.  That said, I thought bringing Lallana back was a good decision too but its clear his legs have completely gone which is a shame.

[Saint Mikey]

22 minutes ago, sambosa75 said:

I've personally thought for a while bringing Jordan Henderson back to the prem would be a masterstroke for a club like us.  His leadership would do wonders for our team.  That said, I thought bringing Lallana back was a good decision too but its clear his legs have completely gone which is a shame.

Henderson will have a colossal tax bill if he returns to the UK too soon after his Saudi earnings (think he was on £800k+ a week there). That's why he ended up at Ajax. Not sure how long he has to wait, but it's a few years I think.

[Chez]

Onuachu to Besiktas talk in the press started up again. No doubt another`massive' offer on it's way. 

[SambaMaverick]

28 minutes ago, Chez said:

Onuachu to Besiktas talk in the press started up again. No doubt another`massive' offer on it's way. 

Sell sell sell at almost any price for christ's sake

[Turkish]

32 minutes ago, Chez said:

Onuachu to Besiktas talk in the press started up again. No doubt another`massive' offer on it's way. 

just what did people see in him? He's so clumsy and awkward its obvious watching him for five minutes he was never going to cut it in the premier league. He's a bit of a comedy figure we all know but scoring goals in the Belgian league is very different to the premier league. I wonder if anyone actually watched him play or was it a data driven signing where his stats looked good.

Edited January 17 by Turkish

[Sunglasses Ron]

On 17/01/2025 at 14:27, Turkish said:

just what did people see in him? I wonder if anyone actually watched him play or was it a data driven signing where his stats looked good.

Can surely only be his epic highlights reel...

 

Edited Sunday at 08:41 by Sunglasses Ron

[Turkish]

Just now, Sunglasses Ron said:

Can surely only be his epic highlights real...

 

never fails to make me laugh that, must have watched it about 50 times 🤣

[Chez]

14 minutes ago, Turkish said:

just what did people see in him? He's so clumsy and awkward its obvious watching him for five minutes he was never going to cut it in the premier league. He's a bit of a comedy figure we all know but scoring goals in the Belgian league is very different to the premier league. I wonder if anyone actually watched him play or was it a data driven signing where his stats looked good.

He met the Jones specification, which was probably as simple as `a front footed, tall target man that has scores goals'. `Technique and ability to score at prem level' must have been written on other side of the fag packet.

Disliked the signing it at the time and bloody hate it now. 

[Chez]

18 minutes ago, Sunglasses Ron said:

Can surely only be his epic highlights real...

 

It was around about the time I watched this clip for the 23rd time that I was "out".
Fair play to him for attempting the stepovers though.

[Chez]

29 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said:

Sell sell sell at almost any price for christ's sake

Despite the reports in the summer, Trabzonspor must have offered absolutely peanuts for him - probably spread over four years and with us paying him a massive lump sum to make up the difference in wages they could afford. It must have been such a poor deal that we were almost better off, from a FFP perspective or whatever, by keeping him. That's the only way I can explain him not going in the summer. 

[goodymatt]

[Mr Saints]

Bigger waste of time than Vincent Pericard.

[Saint Fan CaM]

It’s a shame. Of all the signings from that window, his excited me the most as I remember him as a very skilled attack minded, pacey winger. At Saints at least he’s been a shadow of his former self - bit of a shock if I’m honest.

[SaintJackoInHurworth]

So, our main transfer business is looking like:

OUTS

• Edwards - loaned to QPR *Done Deal*
• Cornet - loan cancelled & sold by West Ham to Genoa *Done Deal*
• BBD - Rumoured that he is off to Sheffield Utd
• Onuachu - rumoured interest from Turkey
• Dibling - wanted by other PL clubs but won't go anywhere until at least the summer
• Walker-Peters - rumours linking him with a move away (E.g. Everton for £5m) but could leave for a free in the summer.
• Ramsdale - rumours linking him with potential move away - probably in the summer.

INS

• Welington - Purchase completed from Sao Paolo
• Sanda - signed from Valenciennes
• Charles - return from loan at Sheff Wed

There are also a number of U21 players back from loan and some others going out on loan, including:

• Ballard - return from loan
• Payne - return from loan
• Bragg - return from loan

Bazunu, Welington, Sanda and Charles may all be considered for a first team squad number. Sanda is U21, but Charles is 21 so don't know if he counts as u21. Assuming he is u21 then all four can currently be added to the first team squad, following the transfers of Edwards and Cornet... or did Edwards count as U21?

Edited Saturday at 17:09 by SaintJackoInHurworth
Adding a bit of extra detail and responding to newer rumours

[Matthew Le God]

7 minutes ago, SaintJackoInHurworth said:

So, our main transfer business is looking like:

INS

• Welington - Purchase completed from Sao Paolo
• Sanda - signed from Valenciennes
• Charles - return from loan at Sheff Wed
• Payne - return from loan at Cheltenham

Welington was signed out of contract. So not a purchase from Sao Paulo.

If you are including Payne returning from loan, you can also add Ballard and Bragg returning.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

9 minutes ago, SaintJackoInHurworth said:

So, our main transfer business is looking like:

OUTS

• Cornet - loan cancelled & sold by West Ham to Genoa
• Onuachu - low ball interest from Turkey
• Dibling - wanted by other PL clubs but won't go anywhere until at least the summer
• Walker-Peters - a few rumours linking him with a move away but not many; may well leave for a free in the summer.
• Ramsdale - linked with move away

INS

• Welington - Purchase completed from Sao Paolo
• Sanda - signed from Valenciennes
• Charles - return from loan at Sheff Wed
• Payne - return from loan at Cheltenham

For Bazunu to get a squad number we will have to get rid of at least one more (or three more if Welington and Charles are going to be added to the squad (or does Charles all count as under-21?))

According to @Over land and sea's excellent contracts thread, Charles is Under-21 for the season.

 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

2 hours ago, goodymatt said:

Looked very rusty in his first appearance. But 1) Not unexpected after time out 2) He looked annoyed about it too, which I took as a good sign 3) not uncommon for rusty players to get that sharpness back and 4) we needed all the attacking help we could get.

But not worked out for anyone. At least it's been ended giving everyone a chance to move on. A decent move for Cornet.

[SNSUN]

BBD joining Sheff Utd? Hope a loan, he'd be useful next season.

[Hawkswood]

2 hours ago, SaintJackoInHurworth said:

So, our main transfer business is looking like:

OUTS

• Cornet - loan cancelled & sold by West Ham to Genoa
• Onuachu - low ball interest from Turkey
• Dibling - wanted by other PL clubs but won't go anywhere until at least the summer
• Walker-Peters - a few rumours linking him with a move away but not many; may well leave for a free in the summer.
• Ramsdale - linked with move away

INS

• Welington - Purchase completed from Sao Paolo
• Sanda - signed from Valenciennes
• Charles - return from loan at Sheff Wed
• Payne - return from loan at Cheltenham

For Bazunu to get a squad number we will have to get rid of at least one more (or three more if Welington and Charles are going to be added to the squad (or does Charles all count as under-21?))

Who has ramsdale been linked with ?

 

[OldNick]

Just now, Hawkswood said:

Who has ramsdale been linked with ?

 

Newcastle I think

[EBS1980]

Cornet out frees up a loan. Hopefully we have one ready to move on. Surely it’ll be a forward but wonder who?

[Chez]

34 minutes ago, SNSUN said:

BBD joining Sheff Utd? Hope a loan, he'd be useful next season.

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/24867208.brereton-diaz-sheffield-united-ahead-southampton-exit/

The move seems to have taken awhile to complete, so I wonder of that is an indication that it is more than just a loan and also involves a transfer/fee, perhaps if they go up? 

Edited Saturday at 15:27 by Chez

[SuperSAINT]

11 minutes ago, EBS1980 said:

Cornet out frees up a loan. Hopefully we have one ready to move on. Surely it’ll be a forward but wonder who?

I wanted us to sign Amad Diallo for the last 2 seasons, but guessing that’s a no now  

[Chez]

14 minutes ago, EBS1980 said:

Cornet out frees up a loan. Hopefully we have one ready to move on. Surely it’ll be a forward but wonder who?

Ferguson at Brighton needs regular games.

[Saint Fan CaM]

24 minutes ago, EBS1980 said:

Cornet out frees up a loan. Hopefully we have one ready to move on. Surely it’ll be a forward but wonder who?

Think we’re a bit short on left-backs.

[Saint Fan CaM]

I can’t see any player in a Prem squad that’s any better than our U-21’s wanting to come here in this window. It would be a strange decision for an overseas player to come here, but more likely especially if they think they might be seen on the EPL stage and they get a great offer. We’ll be suffering this squad albeit a little smaller until the end of the season and our relegation.

[Chez]

47 minutes ago, EBS1980 said:

Cornet out frees up a loan. Hopefully we have one ready to move on. Surely it’ll be a forward but wonder who?

We obviously have a scout in Brazil and Portugal, so should we be buying for both this season and next, which is hard to imagine, this lad Igor Jesus they are talking about looks like he has something about him. Sadly, that fact alone means he ain't signing for an all but relegated side.

Edited Saturday at 16:04 by Chez

[Holmes_and_Watson]

5 hours ago, Chez said:

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/24867208.brereton-diaz-sheffield-united-ahead-southampton-exit/

The move seems to have taken awhile to complete, so I wonder of that is an indication that it is more than just a loan and also involves a transfer/fee, perhaps if they go up? 

It sounds as though one of the clubs has to buy him, when they go up and the other goes down. Hopefully, we go up in 2025/26, but must already budget for picking up BBD if/when United go the other way.🙂

[Lighthouse]

6 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

I can’t see any player in a Prem squad that’s any better than our U-21’s wanting to come here in this window. It would be a strange decision for an overseas player to come here, but more likely especially if they think they might be seen on the EPL stage and they get a great offer. We’ll be suffering this squad albeit a little smaller until the end of the season and our relegation.

I'd have thought there'd be a fair few up and coming players willing to come here on loan if nothing else. This season certainly wont harm the careers of Dibling and Fernandes, who have well and truly showcased their talents in this league and should have offers to stay in it, come summer. It's essentially what Alcaraz and Sully did two years ago, although obviously it didn't really work out as either intended.

[pimpin4rizeal]

On 17/01/2025 at 14:47, Chez said:

He met the Jones specification, which was probably as simple as `a front footed, tall target man that has scores goals'. `Technique and ability to score at prem level' must have been written on other side of the fag packet.

Disliked the signing it at the time and bloody hate it now. 

I like him.. hes had some decent performances with not really many opportunities. . He’s decent at holding the ball up and gives us something in games where we can’t get the ball to stick up top.. even if he hasn’t scored yet he still had useful attributes ..could  still be a good foil for the likes of sulemana happy for him to stay personally 

[Saint Fan CaM]

3 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

I'd have thought there'd be a fair few up and coming players willing to come here on loan if nothing else. This season certainly wont harm the careers of Dibling and Fernandes, who have well and truly showcased their talents in this league and should have offers to stay in it, come summer. It's essentially what Alcaraz and Sully did two years ago, although obviously it didn't really work out as either intended.

My point was that I’d rather see 1or 2 of our U-21’s given an opportunity to gain some invaluable experience by testing themselves against the best, rather than some loanee that has little to no investment in a club that’s on the down.

[FarehamSaintJames]

It’s amazing that we’re almost two thirds of the way into the transfer window and we’ve not let anyone go and not brought anyone in.

I think that firmly cements that the board are resigned to us going down this season.

It’s baffling it was nearly ten days into the window before they had a meeting about transfers (according to Juric).

[austsaint]

3 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

It’s amazing that we’re almost two thirds of the way into the transfer window and we’ve not let anyone go and not brought anyone in.

I think that firmly cements that the board are resigned to us going down this season.

It’s baffling it was nearly ten days into the window before they had a meeting about transfers (according to Juric).

Do you think Prowsey will stay?

 

 

 

At Forest?

[Lighthouse]

8 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

My point was that I’d rather see 1or 2 of our U-21’s given an opportunity to gain some invaluable experience by testing themselves against the best, rather than some loanee that has little to no investment in a club that’s on the down.

If we had anyone who was anywhere near good enough, they'd be in the team. What you're describing is basically what happened in the 9-0 at OT, except we were forced into that through injury. I don't really care if a loanee is 'invested' in the club at all, so long as he's better that what we already have and can improve us on the pitch.

[Chez]

8 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

It’s amazing that we’re almost two thirds of the way into the transfer window and we’ve not let anyone go and not brought anyone in.

I think that firmly cements that the board are resigned to us going down this season.

It’s baffling it was nearly ten days into the window before they had a meeting about transfers (according to Juric).

The speed of departures is dependent on buying clubs. You know that, so why are you claiming such surprise?

You are right, the board think are down. They are not alone. They have learned from their errors two years ago and are not wasting/spending money the ties their hands in the summer.  Are you surprised at this?

The idea that Juric did not discuss recruitment with the board when he was interviewed is unrealistic. His scheduled meeting mentioned to press will have been the `next' meeting, not the first. Player recruitment is a 52 week job with continous meetings and discussions, not just in and around the windows. Again, you know this.

The fact is, we have signed two players, recalled some loans, Cornet is gone and the BBD deal all but done. Are any fans excited by this, no, but that's what happens when you get 6 points from half a season.

 

[Chez]

19 hours ago, Chez said:

Ferguson at Brighton needs regular games.

West Ham and Bournemouth interested. Both might be considered competitors in terms of league position though, which might impact the decision. Not sure Ferguson himself would want to join us. Brighton also might be concerned about lack of supply impacting his performance and value. 

[Dusic]

Is there really any benefit in developing a player for someone else given the situation we are in?

IMO any signings now should be with a view to that player more than likely being with us next season.

[Saint Billy]

Nothing to see here.

[Fabrice29]

22 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Is there really any benefit in developing a player for someone else given the situation we are in?

IMO any signings now should be with a view to that player more than likely being with us next season.

To improve the team for the next 17 games we all have to sit through maybe?

[Saint86]

9 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

My point was that I’d rather see 1or 2 of our U-21’s given an opportunity to gain some invaluable experience by testing themselves against the best, rather than some loanee that has little to no investment in a club that’s on the down.

Sports republic have basically got rid of all the ones that were really something. They'd far rather have spent millions (fees/agents/wages) on players to block their development pathways, than just pay the best u21 / u18 players a serious wage relative to their ability. Given we've got a squad full of dead wood and will be playing the champ next season, it's shown itself to be an incredibly poor bit of strategy. Not to mention the loss of gomes and the fact SR went out of their way to piss of dibling when he rejoined 😂🤣

[Chez]

7 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

To improve the team for the next 17 games we all have to sit through maybe?

SFC is a football business. The club no longer exists to make fans happy. Is there a good business argument for spending several million on a loan?

 

[Chez]

5 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

 the fact SR went out of their way to piss of dibling when he rejoined 😂🤣

Can you expand on this. I don't know that story.

[Toadhall Saint]

20 minutes ago, Chez said:

Can you expand on this. I don't know that story.

Me too

[Matthew Le God]

Perhaps another loan next season or possibly could be a useful player for our first team in the Championship. 

 

Edited Sunday at 11:57 by Matthew Le God

[Lighthouse]

37 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

Sports republic have basically got rid of all the ones that were really something. They'd far rather have spent millions (fees/agents/wages) on players to block their development pathways, than just pay the best u21 / u18 players a serious wage relative to their ability. Given we've got a squad full of dead wood and will be playing the champ next season, it's shown itself to be an incredibly poor bit of strategy. Not to mention the loss of gomes and the fact SR went out of their way to piss of dibling when he rejoined 😂🤣

What on Earth are you talking about?

[ErwinK1961]

1 hour ago, Dusic said:

Is there really any benefit in developing a player for someone else given the situation we are in?

IMO any signings now should be with a view to that player more than likely being with us next season.

So basically the summer window all over again.