leesaint88 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Bit difficult this one. Could he still be an asset for us next season? Agree. Certainly has improved since he's been here so if anything it might be a loan. After which we can see another amusing Burnley #freetella style campaign. 1
spyinthesky Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 hour ago, woodsaint1 said: If he wanted to sign a new contract with us he would have done so already. Being a free agent means he can get a bigger pay day as clubs arent paying a fee for him. I guess he (or his agent) is looking for a Prem side to take him on where he could demand higher wages as no transfer fee involved. I believe he is currently some distance away from the top earners at SMS and is likely to have a % reduction (40-50%?) when Saints are relegated. Real shame as he has been an excellent signing for us and seems a decent chap. 1
goodymatt Posted January 13 Posted January 13 (edited) Leicester closing in on Woyo Coulibaly from Parma. Surely that ends their KWP interest? Although I expect them to be joining us in the championship so I don’t see why he’d have left us to go there anyway? I’d imagine a few PL clubs would be interested in him as a free agent, can’t see him signing a new contract. If we had survived this season, he might have been convinced. Edited January 13 by goodymatt Added TalkSport’s tweet suggesting the same 1
Dman Posted January 13 Posted January 13 12 minutes ago, goodymatt said: I don't see any way he comes back in. Unless Downes' injury is more serious than previously let on (wasn't it claimed to be a dead leg?). With Les getting more game time and strating to show the promise we expected to see from him, Downes to come back and Airbo (dare i say even Smallbone) we have plenty of cover in CM. Let him see his time out there and come back next season as a vitial part of our midfield next to Downes. 4
goodymatt Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Looks like Burnley have enquired about loaning Manning only.
goodymatt Posted January 13 Posted January 13 (edited) £7m for KWP is a steal, even with only 6 months left. Edited January 13 by goodymatt
Dman Posted January 13 Posted January 13 7 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Looks like Burnley have enquired about loaning Manning only. Depends on how highly they rate that Wellington, but hes injured currently, manning is our only natural left footed wingback, so I'd say no deal. Playing KWP there limits our width down the left. He either plays on the right or not at all for me. 1
goodymatt Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Just now, Dman said: Depends on how highly they rate that Wellington, but hes injured currently, manning is our only natural left footed wingback, so I'd say no deal. Playing KWP there limits our width down the left. He either plays on the right or not at all for me. Think I would keep Manning unless Welington is seen as first choice too. Welington has played for the u21s vs Fulham so hopefully not far away from being available to the first team. 1
Baird of the land Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 hour ago, goodymatt said: I'm desperately hoping we call him back. Think we are exceptionally weak in midfield and would love to see him used properly in midfield for us. Have a feeling it will be another tella situation where spend the rest of the season bemoaning our CM options while he continues to excel at Wednesday. 5
Badger Posted January 13 Posted January 13 52 minutes ago, Dman said: Depends on how highly they rate that Wellington, but hes injured currently, manning is our only natural left footed wingback, so I'd say no deal. Playing KWP there limits our width down the left. He either plays on the right or not at all for me. Where have I heard this before ? 1 2
Gloucester Saint Posted January 13 Posted January 13 6 minutes ago, Badger said: Where have I heard this before ? Probably wearing a protective boot 👢
leesaint88 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Dman said: Depends on how highly they rate that Wellington, but hes injured currently, manning is our only natural left footed wingback, so I'd say no deal. Playing KWP there limits our width down the left. He either plays on the right or not at all for me. Really? Because he managed 45 minutes for the U21's a few days ago... 4 1
Chez Posted January 13 Posted January 13 5 hours ago, ErwinK1961 said: The only conceivable way this happens is if we agree to include a relatively low release clause for the summer (£7-10m?). Stops him going for free and doesn’t take a huge offer for him to leave. But after he didn’t get his move last time after relegation, can’t see him agreeing to do that. Plus, he’ll get a handsome signing on fee whoever he goes to if he leaves on a free. The only reason he signs for us, is if no one else in the Prem fancies him. If that is the case - when he is availabe for free - then a low release clause won't be of much point.
Chez Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Dman said: Depends on how highly they rate that Wellington, but hes injured currently, manning is our only natural left footed wingback, so I'd say no deal. We also have Taylor and Larios, so simply on a numbers basis, too many players at left back for a Championship side to be paying. CB stockpiling is even worse of course, although if we are now always playing three at the back a little less so. 1
Chez Posted January 13 Posted January 13 57 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: I'm desperately hoping we call him back. Think we are exceptionally weak in midfield and would love to see him used properly in midfield for us. Have a feeling it will be another tella situation where spend the rest of the season bemoaning our CM options while he continues to excel at Wednesday. You'd think Juric would want to see him play to know if he is in his plans for next season. I guess Charles being out on loan means he will play games and Juric or whoeever can watch those games to assess him.
Master Bates Posted January 13 Author Posted January 13 2 hours ago, Dman said: Depends on how highly they rate that Wellington, but hes injured currently, manning is our only natural left footed wingback, so I'd say no deal. Playing KWP there limits our width down the left. He either plays on the right or not at all for me. Didn't play too bad the other day for an injured player.
Guest Posted January 13 Posted January 13 I’d be amazed if KWP stayed. Ryan Manning I would happily keep, he’s been one of the better players this season.
WALK DMC Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Chez said: We also have Taylor and Larios, so simply on a numbers basis, too many players at left back for a Championship side to be paying. CB stockpiling is even worse of course, although if we are now always playing three at the back a little less so. You're right, although I doubt Larios will ever return from his series of injuries which have been over 2 years now. Maybe his only hope is to change his name to Lazarus. Charlie Taylor is better as a LB in a back 4, or LCB, so could play a role complementing a LWB such as Manning or Welington.
Badger Posted January 13 Posted January 13 2 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said: Probably wearing a protective boot 👢 Yes of course. The medics who gave Steward a clean bill of health would never pick that up in a medical.
benjii Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Get Meghoma back on loan next year? Doubt he'll get many Prem minutes. If we kept Manning / Taylor / Larios, we'd have to sign another left back on promotion anyway.
Matthew Le God Posted January 13 Posted January 13 4 hours ago, Dman said: Depends on how highly they rate that Wellington, but hes injured currently Welington is not injured. He played for the u21s last week.
Master Bates Posted January 13 Author Posted January 13 Joachim Kayi Sanda set to join Goztepe on loan til the end of the season a week after signing. 2
benjii Posted January 13 Posted January 13 57 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Welington is not injured. He played for the u21s last week. His left leg is injured, so he could only use his right. 3
Gloucester Saint Posted January 13 Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, benjii said: His left leg is injured, so he could only use his right. Che Adams was so right footed that his left was purely for standing.
ErwinK1961 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 12 minutes ago, Master Bates said: Joachim Kayi Sanda set to join Goztepe on loan til the end of the season a week after signing. Blimey, no-one saw that coming. 3
bugenhagen Posted January 13 Posted January 13 If Wellington was good enough/an upgrade he would not have gone to the U21... He is not here to play, he is (like, oh, so many others) not good enough to strengthen our starting 11. Probably end up on loan somewhere. 1 2
WALK DMC Posted January 13 Posted January 13 6 minutes ago, bugenhagen said: If Wellington was good enough/an upgrade he would not have gone to the U21... He is not here to play, he is (like, oh, so many others) not good enough to strengthen our starting 11. Probably end up on loan somewhere. The interview with him when his signing was announced stated that he wasn't able to complete the Brazilian season due to injury but was working hard to regain fitness. The implication was that once he was fit again he would be challenging for a place in the 1st team. Your suggestion may yet prove correct, but at the moment that's not the message coming from the club. He also has far more senior experience than Joachim Kayi Sanda so I'd be surprised if we don't see him in the Saints team this season particularly as we are light on strong LWBs. I guess that we'll find out in the next month or so. 2
Chez Posted January 13 Posted January 13 (edited) 13 minutes ago, bugenhagen said: If Wellington was good enough/an upgrade he would not have gone to the U21... He is not here to play, he is (like, oh, so many others) not good enough to strengthen our starting 11. Probably end up on loan somewhere. I don't understand the signing. We had Manning and signed Taylor. Why then sign Wellington, meaning we had three left backs, unless they expected Manning to depart in January? Edited January 13 by Chez
Lee On Solent Saint Posted January 13 Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, Chez said: I don't understand the signing. We have Manning and Taylor. Why sign Wellington unless they expected Manning to depart. He'll be off to Turkey by the end of the window. 1
Matthew Le God Posted January 13 Posted January 13 (edited) 2 hours ago, bugenhagen said: If Wellington was good enough/an upgrade he would not have gone to the U21... He played for the u21s because he had a hamstring injury and he needs to get up to speed. Edited January 13 by Matthew Le God
bugenhagen Posted January 13 Posted January 13 5 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: He played for the u21s because the Brazilian ended in early December and he needs to get up to speed. I respectfully disagree. He may need to get up to speed, but for what? To be available as 3rd choice? If he was an improvement, he would go straight in the first team. 1 1 1
disconnect Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Master Bates said: Joachim Kayi Sanda set to join Goztepe on loan til the end of the season a week after signing. Is this for real?! All of these players, we would've been better off just getting one £20 million midfielder or striker than 5 players for Goztepe in the hope one might come good... How many are they allowed from one club? I guess the Lis transfer was a gift (cheers!) and then Matzuki and Juan on loan, and Victor Hugo our option to buy but playing for them? Is it because we can't get work permits for the others? Presumably Kayi Sanda no problem on that front.
Matthew Le God Posted January 13 Posted January 13 29 minutes ago, bugenhagen said: I respectfully disagree. He may need to get up to speed, but for what? To be available as 3rd choice? If he was an improvement, he would go straight in the first team. How do you know where they view him in the pecking order? He hadn't played for a month and needs gametime.
santolijador Posted January 13 Posted January 13 10 minutes ago, disconnect said: Is this for real?! All of these players, we would've been better off just getting one £20 million midfielder or striker than 5 players for Goztepe in the hope one might come good... How many are they allowed from one club? I guess the Lis transfer was a gift (cheers!) and then Matzuki and Juan on loan, and Victor Hugo our option to buy but playing for them? Is it because we can't get work permits for the others? Presumably Kayi Sanda no problem on that front. It's not for real. Alfie House has confirmed that nothing in that link and Kayi Sanda is staying at Saints. 3
Guest Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Just now, Matthew Le God said: FFP is a load of crap anyway that benefits the top five or six clubs.
SuperSAINT Posted January 13 Posted January 13 2 hours ago, Master Bates said: Joachim Kayi Sanda set to join Goztepe on loan til the end of the season a week after signing. Alfie House says not true. 1
bugenhagen Posted January 13 Posted January 13 44 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: How do you know where they view him in the pecking order? He hadn't played for a month and needs gametime. Alcaraz signed on the 11th, and made his debut on the 14th. Thats what happens when we sign a player who is good enough to improve the starting 11. I guess we will just have to wait and see, but my money goes on more waiting than seeing 😉
BARCELONASAINT Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Goztepe don't need Joachim SANDA, they are doing very nicely with our other players we sent them! Won 5-0 this evening, Juan scored and Matsuki got an assist
Matthew Le God Posted January 13 Posted January 13 (edited) 14 minutes ago, bugenhagen said: Alcaraz signed on the 11th, and made his debut on the 14th. Thats what happens when we sign a player who is good enough to improve the starting 11. I guess we will just have to wait and see, but my money goes on more waiting than seeing 😉 Welington is not currently injured, but he missed the final eight games of the season with a hamstring injury. He needs gametime more than Alcaraz did. Edited January 13 by Matthew Le God 1 1
Chez Posted January 13 Posted January 13 13 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said: Goztepe don't need Joachim SANDA, they are doing very nicely with our other players we sent them! Won 5-0 this evening, Juan scored and Matsuki got an assist Maybe long term we can really benefit from the multi club system?
Sparkkyy Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: So there’s a possibility that no clubs will be issued with disciplinary charges according to that headline. The actual video implies there is a possibility but it’s a little vague. Classic Sky.
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 minute ago, Sparkkyy said: So there’s a possibility that no clubs will be issued with disciplinary charges according to that headline. The actual video implies there is a possibility but it’s a little vague. Classic Sky. Unless 3 teams get a 30 point reduction we are still going down 😃 1
ErwinK1961 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, Sparkkyy said: So there’s a possibility that no clubs will be issued with disciplinary charges according to that headline. The actual video implies there is a possibility but it’s a little vague. Classic Sky. Kieran Maguire on the radio earlier said that the clubs who were skirting the lines were the ones doing the dodgy academy player sales in the summer (Forest, Villa, Newcastle etc) but they all believe they’ve complied. He also said that clubs should actively look to break FFP rules to stay up, because the financial benefit far outweighs the penalty.
Harry_SFC Posted January 13 Posted January 13 25 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: Kieran Maguire on the radio earlier said that the clubs who were skirting the lines were the ones doing the dodgy academy player sales in the summer (Forest, Villa, Newcastle etc) but they all believe they’ve complied. He also said that clubs should actively look to break FFP rules to stay up, because the financial benefit far outweighs the penalty. Breaking the rules is something I've previously suggested. Would be no point with SR in charge though as they'd overspend and somehow make us worse.
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted January 13 Posted January 13 6 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: Breaking the rules is something I've previously suggested. Would be no point with SR in charge though as they'd overspend and somehow make us worse. Without wishing to be clever / smug, I think they already have!
Holmes_and_Watson Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Chez said: Maybe long term we can really benefit from the multi club system? Exactly. Once SR are finished with Southampton, we can all support Goztepe. 🙂 1
Holmes_and_Watson Posted January 13 Posted January 13 59 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: Kieran Maguire on the radio earlier said that the clubs who were skirting the lines were the ones doing the dodgy academy player sales in the summer (Forest, Villa, Newcastle etc) but they all believe they’ve complied. He also said that clubs should actively look to break FFP rules to stay up, because the financial benefit far outweighs the penalty. The last time I heard him, last week, he mentioned Leicester too. But he said that the inability of the PL and EFL to clearly lay out their own rules gave them an out before, and may do so again. The not at all suspicious high value player trading in the summer was designed to get the others off the hook.
VectisSaint Posted January 13 Posted January 13 10 hours ago, Dman said: I don't see any way he comes back in. Unless Downes' injury is more serious than previously let on (wasn't it claimed to be a dead leg?). With Les getting more game time and strating to show the promise we expected to see from him, Downes to come back and Airbo (dare i say even Smallbone) we have plenty of cover in CM. Let him see his time out there and come back next season as a vitial part of our midfield next to Downes. Dead leg basically finished Gaston Ramirez's career (in England at least).
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