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On 24/10/2024 at 11:48, SambaMaverick said:

We won't be doing anything apart from sell because we'll be rock bottom with 10 points at most.

Can see KWP, Tall Paul, Sulemana, Bella-Kotchap, Brereton Diaz all going

I will chip in for BBD's departure. 

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If the results continue as they are, I can't see any player, home-grown or foreign, wanting to play for us even if we do make any credible bids.

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1 hour ago, Bakovnetski said:

If the results continue as they are, I can't see any player, home-grown or foreign, wanting to play for us even if we do make any credible bids.

We might be able to sign someone based the SR vision of seeing Saints as the feeder club to champions league bound Goztepe?

Who could turn that down? Half a season being coached by the messiah followed by the dream move to the Superlig

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5 hours ago, Bakovnetski said:

If the results continue as they are, I can't see any player, home-grown or foreign, wanting to play for us even if we do make any credible bids.

More championship/league one dross who once bought Martin a pint down the pub.

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With Stewart out... ( for goodness knows how long ) .....and no-one else breaking any records, we surely will see yet another striker.

We desperately need some more  creativity in MF.  With Stuart A gone,  we never successfully replaced Steven Davis, or JWP.  

Lallana is good for about 60 minutes, but neither Downes  or Smallbone are anywhere near the form they had last season.

It's good to see Dibling getting some game time, and he is positive as an attacking force, but is not the tough-tackling creative MF we need. 

We are well-covered at full back, and although THB and JB put on good individual displays ..I have to ask why we are conceding so many goals ?

 

A lot will depend on WHO is manager come January 1st?.   Hopefully we will have turned the corner and RM has made it worked, if not (?)...

we will have " a new broom " who will want to change the formation, and bring in HIS favourites , and half the squad will be loaned out elsewhere...

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Hopefully there no plan to buy anyone in January. I fully expect us to be well adrift by then.

It should be painfully obvious after last time round how it is both panfully expensive and medicore quality of players that tend to be available

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Cornet will be going back, That is surely our first bit of business. Was always a shit signing, and has been seen.. total waste of a loan slot.

All effort needs to be in moving on TP, Sully and ABK, perhaps a loan for Edwards too and possibly Bree. 

Then look at bringing in a forward, Hopefully Yuri Alberto.

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Imo i believe we should be scouting Man city's Mcatee. Played well on-loan  for Sheff Utd last season and cant get into Citys depleted team against Sporting Lisbon . Must be very frustrating considering Pep heaped praise on him to keep him intrested in staying so far .Lets hope our scouts are aware of his potential.

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7 minutes ago, Roo1976 said:

Imo i believe we should be scouting Man city's Mcatee. Played well on-loan  for Sheff Utd last season and cant get into Citys depleted team against Sporting Lisbon . Must be very frustrating considering Pep heaped praise on him to keep him intrested in staying so far .Lets hope our scouts are aware of his potential.

We’ve tried to get him before. More than once. 

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On 02/11/2024 at 18:47, SaintsFan86 said:

Cornet will be going back, That is surely our first bit of business. Was always a shit signing, and has been seen.. total waste of a loan slot.

All effort needs to be in moving on TP, Sully and ABK, perhaps a loan for Edwards too and possibly Bree. 

Then look at bringing in a forward, Hopefully Yuri Alberto.

Yep, there's no point speculating on any incomings with the size of our squad. Particularly as we already have an incoming in Welington increasing the size of our squad further. 

The focus has to be on getting rid of the utter dross; ABK, Sulemana etc, and sorting out a loan move for Edwards

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3 hours ago, Master Bates said:

Just messaged a good mate of mine who follow the Well about this, he reckons he will be at a top club within 5 years. Combative midfielder who can take people on, an eye for a pass and deliver good set pieces. He then added he might turn into the Scottish Bellingham but lets not get ahead of ourselves 😅

Says he will probably move to Celtic though for around 4m.

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On 02/11/2024 at 18:47, SaintsFan86 said:

Cornet will be going back, That is surely our first bit of business. Was always a shit signing, and has been seen.. total waste of a loan slot.

All effort needs to be in moving on TP, Sully and ABK, perhaps a loan for Edwards too and possibly Bree. 

Then look at bringing in a forward, Hopefully Yuri Alberto.

Isn’t he supposed to be sh*t, according to Brazilian fans?
 

I’d add Stewart to the loan list, if someone in the Championship willing to give him a go. I’d imagine we’d still be paying most of his wages.

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7 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Isn’t he supposed to be sh*t, according to Brazilian fans?
 

I’d add Stewart to the loan list, if someone in the Championship willing to give him a go. I’d imagine we’d still be paying most of his wages.

Thought I read about Alberto kicking a pigs head off the pitch the other day, and then scored as well. Bit random.

edit - Just checked wiki - 25 goals in 52 games this season.

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5 hours ago, skintsaint said:

Just messaged a good mate of mine who follow the Well about this, he reckons he will be at a top club within 5 years. Combative midfielder who can take people on, an eye for a pass and deliver good set pieces. He then added he might turn into the Scottish Bellingham but lets not get ahead of ourselves 😅

Says he will probably move to Celtic though for around 4m.

Ah the Scottish Jude Bellingham

like good old days of the Swedish Beckham and the Latvian Michael Owen 

 

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3 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Ah the Scottish Jude Bellingham

like good old days of the Swedish Beckham and the Latvian Michael Owen 

 

As long as he won't be like the Scottish McCann. 

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56 minutes ago, OldNick said:

Lets get the Bournemouth recruitment team, money well spent as they seem to get a lot right, be it players or managers

They lost their Sporting Director/DoF or whatever his title was to LIverpool in the summer.

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On 02/11/2024 at 10:46, david in sweden said:

 

We are well-covered at full back, and although THB and JB put on good individual displays ..I have to ask why we are conceding so many goals ?

 

.   ……and RM has made it worked, if not (?)...

 

You’ve answered your own question……just take the if out.

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How have Galatasary got Mario Icardi, Victor Osimen, Zeiyech,  dries Maerten and Michy Batshuayi as the attacking options? All of them would walking into a lot of premier league teams 

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25 minutes ago, Master Bates said:

Bit misleading that headline. The article is just some podcaster saying ‘I think Archie Gray would be good for a team like Southampton because he’d be likely to play more.’ It’s just one bloke’s opinion, there’s no suggestion at all that there’s been any contact. 

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4 hours ago, Turkish said:

How have Galatasary got Mario Icardi, Victor Osimen, Zeiyech,  dries Maerten and Michy Batshuayi as the attacking options? All of them would walking into a lot of premier league teams 

Gone for the hair/teeth routine, innit.

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On 07/11/2024 at 14:36, Turkish said:

How have Galatasary got Mario Icardi, Victor Osimen, Zeiyech,  dries Maerten and Michy Batshuayi as the attacking options? All of them would walking into a lot of premier league teams 

You could argue they’re all journeyman players with larger than life egos, huge signing on fees and wages.

Exactly the kind of player that wouldn’t benefit the squad.

See Dani Osvaldo.

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Just now, FarehamSaintJames said:

You could argue they’re all journeyman players with larger than life egos, huge signing on fees and wages.

Exactly the kind of player that wouldn’t benefit the squad.

See Dani Osvaldo.

Victor Osimen definitely isn’t. 25 years old averaged more than 1 in 2 over 4 seasons in serie A. Deals fell through with PSG and Chelsea in the summer so been loaned out where he’s scored goals for fun in turkey. Class player. 

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Just now, Turkish said:

Victor Osimen definitely isn’t. 25 years old averaged more than 1 in 2 over 4 seasons in serie A. Deals fell through with PSG and Chelsea in the summer so been loaned out where he’s scored goals for fun in turkey. Class player. 

Maybe the only exception, but would be disgustingly high wages.

Turkish football has always been a funny one. Absolute refusal to spend any Linney on transfer fees but will happily bring in a journeyman or big name on silly money to sell a few shirts. Then again I suppose if you sell enough you make your money back somewhat.

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7 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Maybe the only exception, but would be disgustingly high wages.

Turkish football has always been a funny one. Absolute refusal to spend any Linney on transfer fees but will happily bring in a journeyman or big name on silly money to sell a few shirts. Then again I suppose if you sell enough you make your money back somewhat.

Icardi, 31 now but also more than 1 in 2 mostly in serie A. You’d think he’d be playing at a higher level too although he seems to prefer posing on instagram these days. 
 

dries marten knocking on a bit now but was class over 100 appearances for Belgium 

batsuyai seems to be one of those players who’s forcevsr been on loan and everyone thinks is good but hasn’t ever done much so I’ll give you that one 

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So here’s a different view. Given how woeful our scouting set up currently is, the low availability and high price of players, the extremely high chance that whoever is manager at the time won’t be at season end, our dreadful efforts in previous Jan windows, and the fact we will basically be down by then. shouldn’t we use it only to try and finally get rid of the likes of tall Paul and Sulimana (and send back those useless loan players ?) and build a fund for next summer when hopefully we have a clear strategy / manager to try and actually win something of note and come back stronger ?

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50 minutes ago, Hodgey said:

So here’s a different view. Given how woeful our scouting set up currently is, the low availability and high price of players, the extremely high chance that whoever is manager at the time won’t be at season end, our dreadful efforts in previous Jan windows, and the fact we will basically be down by then. shouldn’t we use it only to try and finally get rid of the likes of tall Paul and Sulimana (and send back those useless loan players ?) and build a fund for next summer when hopefully we have a clear strategy / manager to try and actually win something of note and come back stronger ?

I think this was already Sport Republic's plan the moment the previous window shut.

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2 hours ago, Hodgey said:

So here’s a different view. Given how woeful our scouting set up currently is, the low availability and high price of players, the extremely high chance that whoever is manager at the time won’t be at season end, our dreadful efforts in previous Jan windows, and the fact we will basically be down by then. shouldn’t we use it only to try and finally get rid of the likes of tall Paul and Sulimana (and send back those useless loan players ?) and build a fund for next summer when hopefully we have a clear strategy / manager to try and actually win something of note and come back stronger ?

We definitely shouldn't open the cheque books like the last January window we had in the PL.

Loans at best I'd say, but we'd find it very hard to rid ourselves of Onuachu and Sulemana in January - it's hard enough in the summer. We'll end up paying those two off and they'll leave on free's, guarantee it.

Those two signings, and Orsic, are the reason we shouldn't be spending any more money until we sort out the horrendous team who are making the picks.

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31 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

We definitely shouldn't open the cheque books like the last January window we had in the PL.

Loans at best I'd say, but we'd find it very hard to rid ourselves of Onuachu and Sulemana in January - it's hard enough in the summer. We'll end up paying those two off and they'll leave on free's, guarantee it.

Those two signings, and Orsic, are the reason we shouldn't be spending any more money until we sort out the horrendous team who are making the picks.

We need to play trick or treat in January and give somebody we don’t like Sulemana & ABK.

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I can't help thinking that we would be better off letting Les and Cornet go back to their clubs and bringing Edozie and Charles back. It would save us some money and give some PL experience to 2 of our own assets.

Maybe there will be some PL squad players that wan't to put themselves in the shop window who would fancy a loan, like Hayden at Newcastle.  

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I doubt SR’s business model involved Saints going up and down the leagues like a yo-yo for years on end.

But their business plan is clearly buying young talent and selling it on, great if it works, comedic if they’re a dud.

If SR are sticking with Russell Martin they need to back him with more money and bring in better players. 

Cancel the loans of Cornet and Ugochukwu, they offer nothing.

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Apparently Brighton are reportedly sacking all their scouting team and relying on AI to identify players.

Would be a worthwhile option to get them here particularly if they can identify players who can pass the football forward.

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On 10/11/2024 at 15:21, FarehamSaintJames said:

I doubt SR’s business model involved Saints going up and down the leagues like a yo-yo for years on end.

But their business plan is clearly buying young talent and selling it on, great if it works, comedic if they’re a dud.

If SR are sticking with Russell Martin they need to back him with more money and bring in better players. 

Cancel the loans of Cornet and Ugochukwu, they offer nothing.

I don’t want to support a club whose only interest is trading players.  SR strike me as exactly this.  Hope I’m wrong.

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35 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

I don’t want to support a club whose only interest is trading players.  SR strike me as exactly this.  Hope I’m wrong.

we used to be called " a selling club", but you can only sell those players that someone else wants  ..Is there a difference ?

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On 10/11/2024 at 15:21, FarehamSaintJames said:

I doubt SR’s business model involved Saints going up and down the leagues like a yo-yo for years on end.

But their business plan is clearly buying young talent and selling it on, great if it works, comedic if they’re a dud.

If SR are sticking with Russell Martin they need to back him with more money and bring in better players. 

Cancel the loans of Cornet and Ugochukwu, they offer nothing.

As I have suggested before 'yo-yo' is not a plan or strategy, its what happens when you don't have a plan or strategy.

If their business model really is buying players and selling them on at a profit, when was the last time that happened? Lavia, Livramento but that was a while back now so they're certainly not making much money on that model.  Of the current crop, only Ramsdale, Harwood-Bellis, Walker-Peters and Dibling are remotely saleable and only Dibling is likley to return them a profit. Rather poo-poo's the idea of a business model.

The reality is if we go down, those players mentioned and one or two others like Sugawara and Downes will be off anyway probably for the best offers we can get and leaving us as usual with a load of dross unlikely to be good enough to haul us back up onto the cliff top.

All in all it looks like they have no plan at all, indeed they're probably making it up as they go along...

As for sacking Martin, do they have the money to do it? Is that the reason he is here still?

Ah! Serendipity, now that does sound like a plan!

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1 hour ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Can no longer be classed as a selling club if all your players are such tosh that no one wants them.

Sport Republic are geniuses!

You joke but when people kept calling us a 'selling club' all that ever really meant was that we were recruiting good players that Champions League teams wanted.

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